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Sacked Wipro employee alleges harassment
By SiliconIndia | Friday, 21 August 2009, 08:17 IST |
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According to Ram, he joined Wipro on Dec 3, 2007 and was unlawfully sacked on March 10 this year. Earlier he was working with MindTree in Bangalore. In his complaint, he alleged that he was confined to a room for a couple of hours at a stretch on several occasions by the higher-ups, and asked each time to resign. "It all started when recession hit the IT business. As far as my knowledge goes, some seven to eight thousand employees have been sacked during the last couple of months. But looking at my 11 years of experience and good track record, I was not really bothered about my services being terminated," he said.
In his complaint, he said, "I was confined by Anuradha Raju (Assistant Manager, TED, Testing Services, BFSI) in a conference hall inside the campus and was forced to sign on some blank papers. When I asked for the reason, she threatened that they would blacklist my name with NASSCOM and ensure that I did not get a job elsewhere."
Ram has also accused Ganesh Halapeti (Senior Project Manager, AXA, Australia) of abusing him in vulgar language over the phone. "He threatened that if I did not sign on the blank papers, my career would be ruined. I was also ordered to come to the office and work despite being sick." He also approached the HR Department about the incident, but no one paid heed to his grievance. "After I was sacked for no proper reason, I am in a state of shock and am facing acute financial problems."
Saurabh Govil, Senior Vice-President (HR), Wipro Technologies said, "We have not seen the complaint and would not like to comment before seeing it. The ex-employee in question, Ram Mohan, was employed with Wipro. We will not be able to provide any specific information on the individual due to employee confidentiality."
Govil said that the company would provide all the necessary co-operation and support to the investigating authorities in the matter. "We have a very robust process to deal with employee grievances. We have not had any complaints of this nature ever before. This may be an isolated case," he said.
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1:
Every company are misusing their powers. They abuse the employees and create an unhealthy environment. I know wipro senior management have given approval for such illegal sacking.
Posted by:kundan prakash
- 22 Sep, 2009
2:
Hats off to the person who had guts to complain. Do any one of have the similar guts to highlight the harassment problems in wipro?
Posted by:nayeem
- 21 Sep, 2009
3:
Ram had audacity to protest against these perpetrators of crime in India and Australia. As I can see large number of victims in this comments area, why these guys are getting the inspiration to boldly report these crimes to police. I presume the HR managers threatened them of the consequences after the complaint.
Posted by:Sudhir
- 17 Sep, 2009
4:
Employee is working for Vertical managers and horinzontal managers are giving the performance rating for the best performers and ignoring Vertical managers and business appreciation emails. So many instances are there where NI rating was given to best performers.
If no IT boom, then employees would have gone to European countries, would have spread accross the world or Gov. job etc. and with out any stress they used to work.
If no IT boom, then employees would have gone to European countries, would have spread accross the world or Gov. job etc. and with out any stress they used to work.
Posted by:joseph
- 11 Sep, 2009
5:
Was going through the posts. Here are my thoughts:
1)Companies, all companies, exist to make profit, give returns to its shareholders. Essentially to make money. Do not know of any company which is always willing to make losses, excepting PSUs in India. The quicker we youngsters realzie this the better. If we dont we should look for NGOs as employers who do some good for the society.
2)IT industry has provided lots of employment and money to millions of youngsters in the last 10-15 years. I shudder to think if there was no IT boom. May be many of us engineers would have been selling mobile phone sim cards, credit cards at malls and markets, working in some Lalaji's manufacturing unit at Rs 8000 pm or on the highways as construction engineers. Better ones would have surely gone abroad.
3) In their frenzied growth companies have gone and hired people from campuses all across the country. And we all know what is the standard of these campuses, with folks walking in with fat cash and getting admitted, passing out by hook or crook etc. SO essentially garbage in and garbage out. Looking at the language and grammar used in the comments looks like many of people here are from these colleges.
4)I am sure there will be some good guys from these D grade campuses but very few.
5) These folks have it very good so far, Going to US and saving loads of money, sometimes even beyond their wildest dreams
6) Businesses face downturn and people not up to the mark are let go. These folks, and US is a prime example, find either lower paying jobs or go to different industries where thier skills are better matched.
7) IT industry, looked recession proof to all the employees. No industry is.
8) Once the IT is back to mormal growth no one will even go to these sites or waste time on these columns. All this talk of Union and all will vanish. UNITES will get disbanded as the members would have found jobs by then
9)We already have a union, which is such sites, which give vent to our fury. But why dont we start using our brains instead of crying wolf?
10) Wipro or Infy or IBMs are not the only companies demanding performance. Go to their website and check the manpower numbers in their financial reports. All of these companies have let people go. Business conditions have forced them to become less tolerant to perennial benchers who will only go onsite or threaten to resign. They have started demanding performance from employees.
11) It would be ridiculous to assume that all the companies and their so called conniving, unfair managers will let go some of their best performing employees to write abusive blogs and comments and notes and news items and keep all the morons in the company.
12) Pl understand that all of us are managers and nothing stops the companies from terminating the contract and letting us go, no court can do anything here. The release letter will simply say terminated. Will that be better? Who will give employment to a terminated employee? If they are asking some of us to resign then it may be in our own interest for our future. Yes if some of them are treating unfairly then we can go to court. Else it is just tilting at the windmills.
1)Companies, all companies, exist to make profit, give returns to its shareholders. Essentially to make money. Do not know of any company which is always willing to make losses, excepting PSUs in India. The quicker we youngsters realzie this the better. If we dont we should look for NGOs as employers who do some good for the society.
2)IT industry has provided lots of employment and money to millions of youngsters in the last 10-15 years. I shudder to think if there was no IT boom. May be many of us engineers would have been selling mobile phone sim cards, credit cards at malls and markets, working in some Lalaji's manufacturing unit at Rs 8000 pm or on the highways as construction engineers. Better ones would have surely gone abroad.
3) In their frenzied growth companies have gone and hired people from campuses all across the country. And we all know what is the standard of these campuses, with folks walking in with fat cash and getting admitted, passing out by hook or crook etc. SO essentially garbage in and garbage out. Looking at the language and grammar used in the comments looks like many of people here are from these colleges.
4)I am sure there will be some good guys from these D grade campuses but very few.
5) These folks have it very good so far, Going to US and saving loads of money, sometimes even beyond their wildest dreams
6) Businesses face downturn and people not up to the mark are let go. These folks, and US is a prime example, find either lower paying jobs or go to different industries where thier skills are better matched.
7) IT industry, looked recession proof to all the employees. No industry is.
8) Once the IT is back to mormal growth no one will even go to these sites or waste time on these columns. All this talk of Union and all will vanish. UNITES will get disbanded as the members would have found jobs by then
9)We already have a union, which is such sites, which give vent to our fury. But why dont we start using our brains instead of crying wolf?
10) Wipro or Infy or IBMs are not the only companies demanding performance. Go to their website and check the manpower numbers in their financial reports. All of these companies have let people go. Business conditions have forced them to become less tolerant to perennial benchers who will only go onsite or threaten to resign. They have started demanding performance from employees.
11) It would be ridiculous to assume that all the companies and their so called conniving, unfair managers will let go some of their best performing employees to write abusive blogs and comments and notes and news items and keep all the morons in the company.
12) Pl understand that all of us are managers and nothing stops the companies from terminating the contract and letting us go, no court can do anything here. The release letter will simply say terminated. Will that be better? Who will give employment to a terminated employee? If they are asking some of us to resign then it may be in our own interest for our future. Yes if some of them are treating unfairly then we can go to court. Else it is just tilting at the windmills.
Posted by:Arthur James
- 10 Sep, 2009
6:
Arthur,
1) An IT boom does not justify unethical and corrupt practices. A single employees life is far more valuable than a million getting employed.
2) Have you heard of the story of the farmer who killed his goose which used to lay golden eggs? That's what Wipro has just done. Vishal Yadav dies on Aug 28th. Observe the sequence of events after this: Labour laws are exempted for 2 years in Karnataka for IT companies as on 1 Sep. There is a rumour that Wipro is planning to promote a few employees (I bet, its again the top management). More than 2 new orders disclosed within 2 weeks - so as to capture the media. Arthur, i bet you a thousand that the top management has freaked out. They dont get their sleep anymore.
3) If the companies can issue a termination letter, why aren't they issuing it? Let me tell you: Integrity issues (fraud), sexual harrassment etc attracts a non-tolerance policy. These activities can be proven in court without doubt. But non-performance is a relative subject. This cannot be proved in court. Secondly, if the employee approaches court, more than the legal issues, it is the reputation risk that worries the management - which they hope to cover up easily.
4) Arthur, i can assure you that these are not perennial bench cats. These are performers whose projects were ramped down. Almost 10k are on bench currently. But due poor management, the company continues recruit, without considering the bench.
5) I beg to differ with your point that without IT we would have been getting paid an 8000 pm. Its a paradigm. Besides, past achievements cannot compensate the present-day downfall. Does the manager appraise his reportee for performance 15 years back?
6) Once IT is back in swing, rest assured - Wipro is bound to shut shop since no performer would join this company. Since once if a performer is asked to leave under the tag of non-performance, its clearly below the belt. No performer would ever join these companies henceforth.
As an end-note: Anything grey is black. And Wipro is clearly black.
1) An IT boom does not justify unethical and corrupt practices. A single employees life is far more valuable than a million getting employed.
2) Have you heard of the story of the farmer who killed his goose which used to lay golden eggs? That's what Wipro has just done. Vishal Yadav dies on Aug 28th. Observe the sequence of events after this: Labour laws are exempted for 2 years in Karnataka for IT companies as on 1 Sep. There is a rumour that Wipro is planning to promote a few employees (I bet, its again the top management). More than 2 new orders disclosed within 2 weeks - so as to capture the media. Arthur, i bet you a thousand that the top management has freaked out. They dont get their sleep anymore.
3) If the companies can issue a termination letter, why aren't they issuing it? Let me tell you: Integrity issues (fraud), sexual harrassment etc attracts a non-tolerance policy. These activities can be proven in court without doubt. But non-performance is a relative subject. This cannot be proved in court. Secondly, if the employee approaches court, more than the legal issues, it is the reputation risk that worries the management - which they hope to cover up easily.
4) Arthur, i can assure you that these are not perennial bench cats. These are performers whose projects were ramped down. Almost 10k are on bench currently. But due poor management, the company continues recruit, without considering the bench.
5) I beg to differ with your point that without IT we would have been getting paid an 8000 pm. Its a paradigm. Besides, past achievements cannot compensate the present-day downfall. Does the manager appraise his reportee for performance 15 years back?
6) Once IT is back in swing, rest assured - Wipro is bound to shut shop since no performer would join this company. Since once if a performer is asked to leave under the tag of non-performance, its clearly below the belt. No performer would ever join these companies henceforth.
As an end-note: Anything grey is black. And Wipro is clearly black.
Padmanabhan Replied to: Arthur James
- 15 Sep, 2009
7:
Hello Arthur, sorry to say but I am surprised to see your faith for crap that you have put here. If thousand people tell a lie that does not turn the lie into truth. If you beleive so then you are having the same sick mentality what Hitler had. Take a look around, India is growing and everyone's salary is going upwards and same is true for comodity prices as well. IT people are being paid highest but not all people. Take the salary of Wipro fresher and you will see it is lesser than salary what freshers get in L&T or in any other technical gov job. So you have put completely wrong facts here.
And here discussion is all about wrong unethical practices of HR and managers. How can you justify taking signature on blank paper, talking vulgar words. Such HR & Managers are shame for the country. Even if they go abroad they bring shame to us. And we should make sure that such people DO SEE PERSONAL LOSSES FOR THEIR BEHAVIOR. But thats not happening, and exploitation continues. UNION formation is a neccessity to avoid exploitation, unethical termination and office behavior. To name a few, Wipro puts unreasonable bonds for any good training it imparts on its employees. A person going abroad, gets bond period. It does not give industrial trainings to keep its people upto date. All it does ask people to work, even after normal working hours. There is always so less people on bench, as if they stay there for long they will get pink slip. Its salary is worst in the industry. People are just a use and throw comodities. And no one can justify these. Yes people are free to quit but even that is also very painful at wipro. And Wipro is a company which does not even deserve to operate in India, but it does. Thanks to huge population and people like you
And here discussion is all about wrong unethical practices of HR and managers. How can you justify taking signature on blank paper, talking vulgar words. Such HR & Managers are shame for the country. Even if they go abroad they bring shame to us. And we should make sure that such people DO SEE PERSONAL LOSSES FOR THEIR BEHAVIOR. But thats not happening, and exploitation continues. UNION formation is a neccessity to avoid exploitation, unethical termination and office behavior. To name a few, Wipro puts unreasonable bonds for any good training it imparts on its employees. A person going abroad, gets bond period. It does not give industrial trainings to keep its people upto date. All it does ask people to work, even after normal working hours. There is always so less people on bench, as if they stay there for long they will get pink slip. Its salary is worst in the industry. People are just a use and throw comodities. And no one can justify these. Yes people are free to quit but even that is also very painful at wipro. And Wipro is a company which does not even deserve to operate in India, but it does. Thanks to huge population and people like you
sachin Replied to: Arthur James
- 28 Sep, 2009
8:
Dear Friends,
In below discussion we can find definition of NASSCOM in author's own words. Here I am giving definition of NASSCOM what I found from WikiPages.
NASSCOM is an association of software and services companies to facilitate business and trade in software and services and to encourage advancement of research in software technology. It is a not-for-profit organization, registered under the Indian Societies Act, 1860.
And if we read about NASSCOM, it would be clear to us that this ASSOCIATION is made only to help its premium members to make more profit by creating suitable government policies and an conductive environment. It mediates if its' two big members' interest conflict with each other.
What we should see here, that
0. NASSCOM is a legal body registered or known to Government.
1. even biggies need their own UNION to get best out of powerful governments. That is why today these companies are ruling countries, not the government. These companies are allowing politicians to go corrupt only in those areas where these companies' interest is not being impacted. And of course these company don't mind common man's misery in day to day struggle.
2. These companies are paying high salary only based on common understanding. This will never go beyond a limit which is uncomfortable for other companies. NASSCOM is there to short all this out.
3. In future if required they will be sharing employee's database as well, among themselves. And a common list to identify person who is in habit of switching companies.
4. They pressurize government for SEZ and levying of export duties, policies on intellectual rights etc to safe guard their interest. See how in WIPRO people are already working 45 hrs a week and how premzi declaring that SW people are earning very high salary, at the same time getting lands at cheaper rates for offices and paying no export or import duty to government on SW deliveries.
5. And best example how HR and managers are able to threat employees that they will be blacklisted for employment itself, though still NASSCOM has to sort that out with all its members. Till then no blacklisting. But question is how far is that day when this blacklisting will be accepted by all member companies?
And then comes the question, if government is not able to control these companies, how ready we will be to fight our case?
That is why I am repeating the importance of UNION. We have to be together to achieve the benefits of democracy and of being one, powerful enough to put pressure on government to legalize our collective actions.
I must agree, IT people are being paid handsomely and they should save today for tomorrow. However, there is no doubt that young kids(so called rookies) will be paid less for more work meaning they will be exploited.
And many will be thrown out at the time when they will be needing job security most. And if this happens for just keeping the profit margin high, then GOD only can help us and our beloved country.
Probable Cyber crime, may be even hardcore crime, naxalism cannot be denied. And during that time also companies will be making money in fact more money than now.
Only workers, employees and common man will suffer.
We always need a guard to maintain the balance. And presently this is what lacking in IT industry. I am not giving another sector example as I am willing to concentrate on IT, which I know most.
In this forum you are free to say bad/dirty words about companies management or HRs, but remember they are not the one who are being disturbed by these discussion.
I am sure there will be no impact to them. In fact good managers or HRs will be hurt for being part of profession where some of their colleagues are bad. And we need good managers and HR. But what to do with those managers or HRs who are always carrying an air of pride and hollow ego. For such guys we need an UNION to safeguard our interest.
I went through UNION URLs posted here. Some looks credible but not credible enough. None of them have filed a petition to legalize employee union in SW industry. Ram is slowly loosing to corrupt system and no UNION can even talk on same.
I am not expecting UNION to go for full fledged war against Wipro or HCL. But some initiative like filing a petition for our basic rights.
May be with some trimmed rights but right to associate with an UNION local to each SW company.
We need to start and later we go further like these UNIONS can have a representatives in one big countrywide UNION, extending further to a global UNION.
I will go with one such UNION who knows how to start, without having any second thought.
In below discussion we can find definition of NASSCOM in author's own words. Here I am giving definition of NASSCOM what I found from WikiPages.
NASSCOM is an association of software and services companies to facilitate business and trade in software and services and to encourage advancement of research in software technology. It is a not-for-profit organization, registered under the Indian Societies Act, 1860.
And if we read about NASSCOM, it would be clear to us that this ASSOCIATION is made only to help its premium members to make more profit by creating suitable government policies and an conductive environment. It mediates if its' two big members' interest conflict with each other.
What we should see here, that
0. NASSCOM is a legal body registered or known to Government.
1. even biggies need their own UNION to get best out of powerful governments. That is why today these companies are ruling countries, not the government. These companies are allowing politicians to go corrupt only in those areas where these companies' interest is not being impacted. And of course these company don't mind common man's misery in day to day struggle.
2. These companies are paying high salary only based on common understanding. This will never go beyond a limit which is uncomfortable for other companies. NASSCOM is there to short all this out.
3. In future if required they will be sharing employee's database as well, among themselves. And a common list to identify person who is in habit of switching companies.
4. They pressurize government for SEZ and levying of export duties, policies on intellectual rights etc to safe guard their interest. See how in WIPRO people are already working 45 hrs a week and how premzi declaring that SW people are earning very high salary, at the same time getting lands at cheaper rates for offices and paying no export or import duty to government on SW deliveries.
5. And best example how HR and managers are able to threat employees that they will be blacklisted for employment itself, though still NASSCOM has to sort that out with all its members. Till then no blacklisting. But question is how far is that day when this blacklisting will be accepted by all member companies?
And then comes the question, if government is not able to control these companies, how ready we will be to fight our case?
That is why I am repeating the importance of UNION. We have to be together to achieve the benefits of democracy and of being one, powerful enough to put pressure on government to legalize our collective actions.
I must agree, IT people are being paid handsomely and they should save today for tomorrow. However, there is no doubt that young kids(so called rookies) will be paid less for more work meaning they will be exploited.
And many will be thrown out at the time when they will be needing job security most. And if this happens for just keeping the profit margin high, then GOD only can help us and our beloved country.
Probable Cyber crime, may be even hardcore crime, naxalism cannot be denied. And during that time also companies will be making money in fact more money than now.
Only workers, employees and common man will suffer.
We always need a guard to maintain the balance. And presently this is what lacking in IT industry. I am not giving another sector example as I am willing to concentrate on IT, which I know most.
In this forum you are free to say bad/dirty words about companies management or HRs, but remember they are not the one who are being disturbed by these discussion.
I am sure there will be no impact to them. In fact good managers or HRs will be hurt for being part of profession where some of their colleagues are bad. And we need good managers and HR. But what to do with those managers or HRs who are always carrying an air of pride and hollow ego. For such guys we need an UNION to safeguard our interest.
I went through UNION URLs posted here. Some looks credible but not credible enough. None of them have filed a petition to legalize employee union in SW industry. Ram is slowly loosing to corrupt system and no UNION can even talk on same.
I am not expecting UNION to go for full fledged war against Wipro or HCL. But some initiative like filing a petition for our basic rights.
May be with some trimmed rights but right to associate with an UNION local to each SW company.
We need to start and later we go further like these UNIONS can have a representatives in one big countrywide UNION, extending further to a global UNION.
I will go with one such UNION who knows how to start, without having any second thought.
Posted by:WouldLike2BAnonymous
- 08 Sep, 2009
9:
How did Ranjan Acharya, Veeraghavan and Vishal Yadav die. Who are responsible for this unnatural deaths. Wipro senior Management should be held responsible.
Posted by:raghavendra
- 07 Sep, 2009
10:
Dear Vishal,
I do not know you. However,as an ex Wipro employee,I will remember you as a wonderful and skilful employee of Wipro.
May your soul rest in eternal peace. My deepest sympathies goes to your family and friends.
Your loss to Wipro is immense as you have helped the org. Every bit counts.
Let us get together and pray for him.We should not indulge into any discussions that relates to his cause of death.In this world of magnet and miracles, let us not point anyone on the probable cause of death and blame one another for we are humans and our perception will always be different.
Thanks
Ankit
I do not know you. However,as an ex Wipro employee,I will remember you as a wonderful and skilful employee of Wipro.
May your soul rest in eternal peace. My deepest sympathies goes to your family and friends.
Your loss to Wipro is immense as you have helped the org. Every bit counts.
Let us get together and pray for him.We should not indulge into any discussions that relates to his cause of death.In this world of magnet and miracles, let us not point anyone on the probable cause of death and blame one another for we are humans and our perception will always be different.
Thanks
Ankit
Posted by:ankit
- 06 Sep, 2009
11:
WIPRO has lost its ethical values and unethical issues are prevailing day by day due to non techie managers and HR harrasment to the employees. They forget all the favours and revenue generated by the employee in a moment.
Posted by:Anjali
- 06 Sep, 2009
12:
Hi Raj,
You should not write like this. Those details has to bring into higher officials and HR department. You can email them directly. This forum is to stop the torturing and lay off what happening on the IT employee.
You should not write like this. Those details has to bring into higher officials and HR department. You can email them directly. This forum is to stop the torturing and lay off what happening on the IT employee.
Posted by:Chris
- 06 Sep, 2009
13:
Hi friends
here is another example of Wipro
Someone inform that senior Manager of wipro ( Kannan Ramiah Manager of WASE Program) about the fraud happening in Wipro but after knowing all they keep quite
here the details of the person who is working in Wipro after attending interview 3 times in a duration of 4 months, which is totally wrong and as rules person attending interview they should not attend minimum of 6 months. Someone inform the HRs about it, but they didnt took any action on them
Look out the details mailed i got it
Dear HR
My name is Ramesh I attended interview on 12th October 2008 for WASE program Again there was a interview which took place near Madiwala office ( near silk board) on 8th November 2008 that time I was sent back saying that you already attended interview so you can after three months only. But I found that this person she also attend interview on same dates and currently she is working in Wipro. Why this kind of wrong thing happening. Rules should be same for all.
Please clarify if I am wrong
Details of Person
Name Karthiga Rajendran
Employee ID 11006687
Email Id karthiga.rajendran attherateof wipro.com
Work Location Sarjapur WIPRO TECHNOLOGIES
Department BIS
Interview attended for the post of
Wase Program 2008
Wase Program 2008
Interview Attended
12th October 2008
8th November 2008
Address and Location
St Joseph’s Arts and Science college,
Langford Road,
Below Richmond Flyover,
Bangalore 560029
Wipro Technologies
Madiwala office
Near silk board
Bangalore
Email id used
Karthilike attherateof gmail.com
Kabi1717 attherateof gmail.com
Mobile No used
9986275186
( Number in use)
9742745034
(Number in use)
Home No. used
04232204116
04232204116
Date of Birth
17th August 1987
17th August 1987
Rounds of interview
Not selected in Final round
There are 2 girls with same name, In which one was selected and other is sent out. she was sent out by identifying the date of birth.
Selected and Joined on
17 November 2008
Bangalore Address Given
No 59 1st floor 5th Cross
8th Main Vasanth Nagar
Bangalore 560052
No 59 1st floor 5th Cross
8th Main Vasanth Nagar
Bangalore 560052
Home Address Given
670 7 Type 1 Quarter Cordite Factory Estate
Aruvankadu 643202
Tamilnadu India
670 7 Type 1 Quarter Cordite Factory Estate
Aruvankadu 643202
Tamilnadu India
Year of passing
2008
2008
Qualification
BCA
BCA
Father Name
B Rajendran
B Rajendran
Interview Head from Wipro
Babitha Nambiar
Babitha Nambiar
Examinations during Training
Not cleared any exams during Training in EC campus
Please clarify the details from the mobile numbers given in tables
As per the WIPRO policy Candidates interviewed in the previous SIX or THREE months may not apply again
There are thousands of people waiting to get in Wipro if this the case where WIPRO hire people then I will refer this mail to all the people who was send out because they already attended interview before
Is WIPRO Talent Acquisition Team is too weak to find these kind of people who make the company fool by providing different mail id and mobile no
Does WIPRO require these kinds of people in their organization
There is no background verification happened before they join in WIPRO
here is another example of Wipro
Someone inform that senior Manager of wipro ( Kannan Ramiah Manager of WASE Program) about the fraud happening in Wipro but after knowing all they keep quite
here the details of the person who is working in Wipro after attending interview 3 times in a duration of 4 months, which is totally wrong and as rules person attending interview they should not attend minimum of 6 months. Someone inform the HRs about it, but they didnt took any action on them
Look out the details mailed i got it
Dear HR
My name is Ramesh I attended interview on 12th October 2008 for WASE program Again there was a interview which took place near Madiwala office ( near silk board) on 8th November 2008 that time I was sent back saying that you already attended interview so you can after three months only. But I found that this person she also attend interview on same dates and currently she is working in Wipro. Why this kind of wrong thing happening. Rules should be same for all.
Please clarify if I am wrong
Details of Person
Name Karthiga Rajendran
Employee ID 11006687
Email Id karthiga.rajendran attherateof wipro.com
Work Location Sarjapur WIPRO TECHNOLOGIES
Department BIS
Interview attended for the post of
Wase Program 2008
Wase Program 2008
Interview Attended
12th October 2008
8th November 2008
Address and Location
St Joseph’s Arts and Science college,
Langford Road,
Below Richmond Flyover,
Bangalore 560029
Wipro Technologies
Madiwala office
Near silk board
Bangalore
Email id used
Karthilike attherateof gmail.com
Kabi1717 attherateof gmail.com
Mobile No used
9986275186
( Number in use)
9742745034
(Number in use)
Home No. used
04232204116
04232204116
Date of Birth
17th August 1987
17th August 1987
Rounds of interview
Not selected in Final round
There are 2 girls with same name, In which one was selected and other is sent out. she was sent out by identifying the date of birth.
Selected and Joined on
17 November 2008
Bangalore Address Given
No 59 1st floor 5th Cross
8th Main Vasanth Nagar
Bangalore 560052
No 59 1st floor 5th Cross
8th Main Vasanth Nagar
Bangalore 560052
Home Address Given
670 7 Type 1 Quarter Cordite Factory Estate
Aruvankadu 643202
Tamilnadu India
670 7 Type 1 Quarter Cordite Factory Estate
Aruvankadu 643202
Tamilnadu India
Year of passing
2008
2008
Qualification
BCA
BCA
Father Name
B Rajendran
B Rajendran
Interview Head from Wipro
Babitha Nambiar
Babitha Nambiar
Examinations during Training
Not cleared any exams during Training in EC campus
Please clarify the details from the mobile numbers given in tables
As per the WIPRO policy Candidates interviewed in the previous SIX or THREE months may not apply again
There are thousands of people waiting to get in Wipro if this the case where WIPRO hire people then I will refer this mail to all the people who was send out because they already attended interview before
Is WIPRO Talent Acquisition Team is too weak to find these kind of people who make the company fool by providing different mail id and mobile no
Does WIPRO require these kinds of people in their organization
There is no background verification happened before they join in WIPRO
Posted by:raj
- 05 Sep, 2009
14:
wipro is a crap company man...avoid it simply.
charan Replied to: raj
- 18 Sep, 2009
15:
Mr Raj
why have you published these info (if its correct) in a public domain? you should have contacted Wipro and should have given all details rather than showing an individual in a poor light. its abuse on individual... pls desist from doing such things in a public foram.
why have you published these info (if its correct) in a public domain? you should have contacted Wipro and should have given all details rather than showing an individual in a poor light. its abuse on individual... pls desist from doing such things in a public foram.
Rajesh Replied to: raj
- 05 Sep, 2009
16:
friends,
the probelm is not with company, its with the managers... its not just Wipro, all companies have such managers... we must realize that a person who is performing good will always be rewarded by the company - of course only if his manager is also of that kind. lets evaluate ourselves how we are and are we fit for any lay off. if we aren't then good.. otherwise bad luck
the probelm is not with company, its with the managers... its not just Wipro, all companies have such managers... we must realize that a person who is performing good will always be rewarded by the company - of course only if his manager is also of that kind. lets evaluate ourselves how we are and are we fit for any lay off. if we aren't then good.. otherwise bad luck
Posted by:Myname
- 03 Sep, 2009
17:
Wipro is the worst company..
-no hikes
-assessment every year
-if u r non billable even for 1 month, you are out.
-no growth, even not in personal development and technology
-9.5 hours daily
see more here :http://techbluz.com/reviews/wipro/41/
-no hikes
-assessment every year
-if u r non billable even for 1 month, you are out.
-no growth, even not in personal development and technology
-9.5 hours daily
see more here :http://techbluz.com/reviews/wipro/41/
Posted by:Techbluz
- 02 Sep, 2009
18:
ya...I too agree with u
I have the bitter experience of working with this shit company,they ruined my career.
I have the bitter experience of working with this shit company,they ruined my career.
charan Replied to: Techbluz
- 18 Sep, 2009
19:
We came to know that Wipro HR had corrupted the Electronic city police to go sluggishly in ram's case. When the same HR spoiled thousands of careers illegally, they are going allout to protect their own careers. Did these HR give convincing explanation to vishal yadav's murder.
Posted by:Munna
- 02 Sep, 2009
20:
Hi All,
I think there are various reasons involved and a variety of situations where this can/could happen.Unless we know exactly what happened in Ram's case,we cannot point anybody.
Why should we blame the companies at large...There might be these handful of donkeys(engineers and managers) who are involved in this stupid favouritism /nepotism / ye apna he / vo apna nahi, things....I think the onus lies upon those smart,watchful wise senior managers who can identify this shit and throw it out of the premises....
We don't know what Ram did or for that matter what the concerned managers did(to him).
My learning from this is,go to any extent to ensure that one does not suffer and vice-versa help those who are in a position to control this from happening..
I think there are various reasons involved and a variety of situations where this can/could happen.Unless we know exactly what happened in Ram's case,we cannot point anybody.
Why should we blame the companies at large...There might be these handful of donkeys(engineers and managers) who are involved in this stupid favouritism /nepotism / ye apna he / vo apna nahi, things....I think the onus lies upon those smart,watchful wise senior managers who can identify this shit and throw it out of the premises....
We don't know what Ram did or for that matter what the concerned managers did(to him).
My learning from this is,go to any extent to ensure that one does not suffer and vice-versa help those who are in a position to control this from happening..
Posted by:Blogger
- 01 Sep, 2009
21:
Hello Friends,
This kind of sean is not only in HCL or WIPRO. It is also applicable to Perot System. One fine Friday morning, got calls from HR and asked we have an very urgent meeting, please report by in another half an hour. When people reached HR, simply they said that, you are laid off please leave the premises and we will settle every thing and will send to your address and they took a forceful RESIGN letter. People who argued more they were given with TERMINATION letters with bad conduct. I have seen so many people who are under performed but they were having good faith with some senior managers, so they are out side of lay off list.
I will agree this is all with bull shit manager's( who are not even fit for trainee - dirty minded fellows) management.
This kind of sean is not only in HCL or WIPRO. It is also applicable to Perot System. One fine Friday morning, got calls from HR and asked we have an very urgent meeting, please report by in another half an hour. When people reached HR, simply they said that, you are laid off please leave the premises and we will settle every thing and will send to your address and they took a forceful RESIGN letter. People who argued more they were given with TERMINATION letters with bad conduct. I have seen so many people who are under performed but they were having good faith with some senior managers, so they are out side of lay off list.
I will agree this is all with bull shit manager's( who are not even fit for trainee - dirty minded fellows) management.
Posted by:Satyam
- 31 Aug, 2009
22:
I do feel sorry for the victims of these kind of acts of injustice by the so called big companies. However, why is it that anything and everything only about "IT or SOFTWARE" gets highlighted or gets attention and not the other sectors?
The situation is much worse for people working for Non-IT Sector. People in IT atleast take home decent salaries when employed while the ones working for Non-IT Indian Companies will have to suffice with their meagre salaries with no extra/ additional benefits whatsoever. There are very very few of them who provide benefits to their employees although I have not come across even one in my 8 yrs of working with different Indian Companies.
If plight of people working for the IT based MNC's is miserable,then the situation of the non-IT techies working for Indian Companies is pathetic.
I am a Non-IT Professional and I am going through the same kind of situation and I guess I have no choice but to put up with it or quit.
I seriously believe that woking for Indians & Indian Companies will never get better.
The situation is much worse for people working for Non-IT Sector. People in IT atleast take home decent salaries when employed while the ones working for Non-IT Indian Companies will have to suffice with their meagre salaries with no extra/ additional benefits whatsoever. There are very very few of them who provide benefits to their employees although I have not come across even one in my 8 yrs of working with different Indian Companies.
If plight of people working for the IT based MNC's is miserable,then the situation of the non-IT techies working for Indian Companies is pathetic.
I am a Non-IT Professional and I am going through the same kind of situation and I guess I have no choice but to put up with it or quit.
I seriously believe that woking for Indians & Indian Companies will never get better.
Posted by:Sujan Asha
- 31 Aug, 2009
23:
it is a marwadi run business..just profit..they buy n sell anything to make profit...of-course Graduate engineers are good commodity in IT outsourcing business...they buy them..make profit and sell them at the right time..like shares or just any other commodity.. get used to it..or get out of there.
Posted by:Colleague
- 31 Aug, 2009
24:
This is not an isolated case, i personally know people who have resigned becuse of the ill tratment by the senior managers, no exit interviews no were to speak to.
Posted by:pappu
- 31 Aug, 2009
25:
This is Crap shit treatment by a few useless senior officials on the name of a big company. Act of such people should not and cannot be related to companies as such people exist everywhere. It's fishy as he was being threatened to quit within 4-5 months of his joining, which is very short duration to chuck out someone due to low performance.
Posted by:Rohan
- 31 Aug, 2009
26:
Guys let me tell you that every company today is far more sensitive to performance than they were 2 yrs back. Obviously non performance has no place in today's context. People will be graded based on relative performance and whoever falls below the cutoff line will perish. Its simple boss - even team australia follows this principle ruthlessly and thats why they are consistent performers year after year.
Now let me comment about Wipro. I have been working in Wipro for quite a few yrs and its my 5th company in my tenure of 16 yrs. Wipro definitely has extremely robust processes and has a lot of focus for its employees. That doesnt mean it has to tolerate non performance. Unfortunately whoever is an under performer would still tend to believe and proclaim that he is a genius.
My advise to all frustrated souls is to follow Rahul Dravid's example - if you are really good prove it once again and make a comeback. According to most people in this thread Dravid should have filed a lawsuit against BCCI for dropping him on performance ground (inspite of serving the team for more than 10 yrs) - right? Instead he did what a real genius does - prove himself again. Do you have it in you?
Now let me comment about Wipro. I have been working in Wipro for quite a few yrs and its my 5th company in my tenure of 16 yrs. Wipro definitely has extremely robust processes and has a lot of focus for its employees. That doesnt mean it has to tolerate non performance. Unfortunately whoever is an under performer would still tend to believe and proclaim that he is a genius.
My advise to all frustrated souls is to follow Rahul Dravid's example - if you are really good prove it once again and make a comeback. According to most people in this thread Dravid should have filed a lawsuit against BCCI for dropping him on performance ground (inspite of serving the team for more than 10 yrs) - right? Instead he did what a real genius does - prove himself again. Do you have it in you?
Posted by:fair judgement
- 30 Aug, 2009
27:
Judge not for you shall be judged too. It is unfair to compare Ram to Rahul Dravid. Wipro is not rehiring him in the next millennium. Also a fired employee will not find another job because judgmental people like you who are prejudiced will believe BCCI is right and continue to play ball.
Santhosh Min Replied to: fair judgement
- 25 Sep, 2009
28:
it seems u r one of the useless,good for nothing managers of this company. Just remember how many times the HR persons have asked u to forcibly give NI to particular people. remember one thing, if this company can ask u to tell others to leave the company....one day some other senior guy will ask u to leave.so do not be a fool and just think over whatever u have written here.
poor judgement Replied to: fair judgement
- 18 Sep, 2009
29:
u proved what a kind of dog u really r. bcz u r trully faithfull.
daddy Replied to: fair judgement
- 13 Sep, 2009
30:
so Mr Manager of wipro..
u think ur experience in Wipro is good...
Lets get talking.. y don't u tell prople how u treat ur juniors in ur team....
u think ur experience in Wipro is good...
Lets get talking.. y don't u tell prople how u treat ur juniors in ur team....
kg s Replied to: fair judgement
- 02 Sep, 2009
31:
how much did the company bribe you?
Sole Replied to: fair judgement
- 31 Aug, 2009
32:
What you are saying is correct . I am not sure about the case that we are discussing here however few points need to be considered
1) The way he was sacked .He was threatened .
2) As you rightly said performance is a key factor but let me know who measures the performance.In some of the cases it is judged by managers who are technically poor and came from Non IT industry not written single line of code in their career.How they are going to judge the performance .That start applying those dirty management priciples ( not found in any management book) .Also lot of politics is involved (I hate the word politics which came into IT industry not because of technical staff but because of those bull sheet management staff)
3) That person might be victim of such politics
1) The way he was sacked .He was threatened .
2) As you rightly said performance is a key factor but let me know who measures the performance.In some of the cases it is judged by managers who are technically poor and came from Non IT industry not written single line of code in their career.How they are going to judge the performance .That start applying those dirty management priciples ( not found in any management book) .Also lot of politics is involved (I hate the word politics which came into IT industry not because of technical staff but because of those bull sheet management staff)
3) That person might be victim of such politics
Reply to Fair jodgement Replied to: fair judgement
- 31 Aug, 2009
33:
Hi Guys, Only incapable managers only will do this kind of politics with technically skilled peoples. In this case wipro managers are not exceptional case.
Hi Wipro Replied to: Reply to Fair jodgement
- 31 Aug, 2009
34:
I have worked for Wipro. They do not do such things. This is Ram's side of the story only. If he has got such a treatment he must have done something.
Posted by:amit
- 30 Aug, 2009
35:
Hello everybody I know what kind of treatment we wiproits got when we were asked to resign from company, I have worked with wipro, and i myself faced this from wipro HR team. 2 months of harrasment every 3 or 4 days they will send mail saind some discussion and in a closed room they will threaten you. the kind of harrasment what they did is definetly lead to this kind of situation, we worked with the company day and night for its growth, we thought that its our family, but what ever the treatment they gave is harrasement at the end. most of the engeneer people who got sacked are top performers, they got awards for their best performence, but HR team never considered this just they terminated or sent out employees even without proper experience letters, just think you are serving company with sinciarity and after 4 years of your service they say that to resign and if they will give you some bad remark on releavin, or what ever, your 4 years of service is gone. your dreams your hope everything is gone. we are not cheating, we are getting paid for our work, not for sitting there. then why did they do like that.
shwetha Replied to: amit
- 01 Sep, 2009
36:
The worst and dirtiest company that anyone can think of working in this world is wipro.It is better to beg on roads than to work in wipro
Who cares Replied to: amit
- 26 Jun, 2010
37:
Your title is very apt.. You dont care.. so why make profound statements
Gopi Krishna Replied to: Who cares
- 19 Apr, 2012
38:
Buds,
This is total nonsense.
Wipro is a company of 1 lakh employees. You can judge that the company is bad based on the opinion of a moron.
As the number of people increase, definitely there will be conflicts of interest. Certain times that goes to a level where it becomes unmanageable. Ram's is one of those cases I believe.
The comments regarding lay-off and all, I am working currently in US. And luckily I still have job. A lay-off happened in my company two months back. And the experience was horrible. One fine day morning, some of the employees were not able to get access to office. Talking to security, they came to know they were laid-off. And people who were laid off were allowed inside office to get their things only along with a security, that too for 1 empl., 1 security like that. It was kind of you were in jail. I has too horrible to see my friends and colleagues leaving the company crying.
And few of them on visas were asked to leave the country within 2-3 weeks.
Tell me guys, this is better or your half-salary is better (question)
Nothing in this world is perfect. And also, all these companies are working based on American capitalistic culture. You tasted the sweetness of IT culture one time. Now is the downturn. You need to face now the other side of the same coin, it is the layoffs.
This is total nonsense.
Wipro is a company of 1 lakh employees. You can judge that the company is bad based on the opinion of a moron.
As the number of people increase, definitely there will be conflicts of interest. Certain times that goes to a level where it becomes unmanageable. Ram's is one of those cases I believe.
The comments regarding lay-off and all, I am working currently in US. And luckily I still have job. A lay-off happened in my company two months back. And the experience was horrible. One fine day morning, some of the employees were not able to get access to office. Talking to security, they came to know they were laid-off. And people who were laid off were allowed inside office to get their things only along with a security, that too for 1 empl., 1 security like that. It was kind of you were in jail. I has too horrible to see my friends and colleagues leaving the company crying.
And few of them on visas were asked to leave the country within 2-3 weeks.
Tell me guys, this is better or your half-salary is better (question)
Nothing in this world is perfect. And also, all these companies are working based on American capitalistic culture. You tasted the sweetness of IT culture one time. Now is the downturn. You need to face now the other side of the same coin, it is the layoffs.
Posted by:Manoj
- 30 Aug, 2009
39:
Regarding your question- "Tell me guys, this is better or your half-salary is better (question)"
I would like to tell you that it is better to resign and remain unemployed than to work in a company like Wipro.
I would like to tell you that it is better to resign and remain unemployed than to work in a company like Wipro.
wiprosucks Replied to: Manoj
- 31 Aug, 2009
40:
Atleast someone on this blog has got balls to speak the truth!
N all the morons like manoj should work in WIPRO!
N all the morons like manoj should work in WIPRO!
Wiproreallysucks Replied to: wiprosucks
- 13 Sep, 2009
41:
Mr Manoj,
Thanks for bringing out the another deamon face of Wipro. If the company has to lay off,then it should follow some ethics. Wipro is a company which doesn't have any ethics. I have worked in Wipro for quite a period and i know about many unethical issues prevailing in Wipro.
You yourself have said that there are certain things which have gone out of control in Wipro, just because of its strong employees' strength. Who is to be blamed for this. If Wipro doesn't has capability to manage such a large number of people, then why does it hire so many people? Just in the madness to earn money and to remain ahead in the competition. I know how does it exploit the freshers. They are being trained in one technology, and then suddenly asked to work in another technology or they are being trained in a technology at one location then at a very short period they are asked to move to other location because there is no project available at the same location. This is the Height of Mismanagement!This is just a single case point. There are many other cases in Wipro which can be talked about.
Policies like ombudsman, Spirit of Wipro, "There are no shades of grey, its either black or white" are just bullshit and nothing else.
How many of wiproites know that both employee's and employer's contribution towards PPF are deducted from the employee's salary. QPLC which is a part of employee's CTC, which given once in 3 months and that also not 100%. Part of it is deducted stating that the domain hasn't performed well. While in Wipro i haven't seen any of the domain performing bad. Its just a way increase the company's profits while blowing of the employees' pockets at the same time. The transportation charges.Oh My GOD! there invariably increases..Never decreases..no matter the fuel rates go down or up.
And this all have been happening since the time when IT was at its peak of boom. If you atlk about the sweetness of IT culture, specially Wipro..then lemme tell you..It looks sweet from a distance, when tasted, its sour like neem or aamla....If you talk of American culture, i am sorry to say that just calling each other by names doesn't bring American culture in the company.
Thanks for bringing out the another deamon face of Wipro. If the company has to lay off,then it should follow some ethics. Wipro is a company which doesn't have any ethics. I have worked in Wipro for quite a period and i know about many unethical issues prevailing in Wipro.
You yourself have said that there are certain things which have gone out of control in Wipro, just because of its strong employees' strength. Who is to be blamed for this. If Wipro doesn't has capability to manage such a large number of people, then why does it hire so many people? Just in the madness to earn money and to remain ahead in the competition. I know how does it exploit the freshers. They are being trained in one technology, and then suddenly asked to work in another technology or they are being trained in a technology at one location then at a very short period they are asked to move to other location because there is no project available at the same location. This is the Height of Mismanagement!This is just a single case point. There are many other cases in Wipro which can be talked about.
Policies like ombudsman, Spirit of Wipro, "There are no shades of grey, its either black or white" are just bullshit and nothing else.
How many of wiproites know that both employee's and employer's contribution towards PPF are deducted from the employee's salary. QPLC which is a part of employee's CTC, which given once in 3 months and that also not 100%. Part of it is deducted stating that the domain hasn't performed well. While in Wipro i haven't seen any of the domain performing bad. Its just a way increase the company's profits while blowing of the employees' pockets at the same time. The transportation charges.Oh My GOD! there invariably increases..Never decreases..no matter the fuel rates go down or up.
And this all have been happening since the time when IT was at its peak of boom. If you atlk about the sweetness of IT culture, specially Wipro..then lemme tell you..It looks sweet from a distance, when tasted, its sour like neem or aamla....If you talk of American culture, i am sorry to say that just calling each other by names doesn't bring American culture in the company.
wiprosucks Replied to: Manoj
- 31 Aug, 2009
42:
IT companies especialy WIPRO doing this sort of sacking of employees without any reason. They do not bother about the future of the sacked employees. With so much resource and assets, they do not care to see the welfare of the employees. They recruit through campus and put them on waiting for 6 months to 1 year after completion of their degree course, mostly B.E., How much pain and money these young engineers would have put in for completing the course. With the lucrative invitation, these companies take the young engineers and sack them within a year without any reason or hearing an appeal from the employees. Now the sacked employee will be on a desperate mood as they are without any job or experience for 2 years after completion of their course. Does these companies HR Department heads not have any humanitarian consideration before taking a harsh action like sacking? Why can not the employees be warned before sacking so that the erring employees, if at all in the eyes of the HR Heads so what warrenting for an action ? Assets can be created and amazed by employing poor youngsters. As there is no organised labour sector in the IT companies, the employees are treated like bonded labourers. What is the use of the companies when it does not have humane for their own employees ? Will Premji live for 1000 years to enjoy the wealth and assets he is creating out of bonded labourers ? Let this be brought to personal notice of Premji. So that he will have humane touch on his HR Heads.
Posted by:Nellai Mari
- 30 Aug, 2009
43:
UNITES is a only registered non-political IT/BPO trade union in India and all IT/BPO employees should join, work together and protect our countrymen from all the bad effects of Globalisation.
Remember "UNITY IS STRENGTH" and UNITES Professionals stands for that.
Remember "UNITY IS STRENGTH" and UNITES Professionals stands for that.
Angela Replied to: Nellai Mari
- 30 Aug, 2009
44:
Visit http://www.unitespro.org to know more and make a difference to all our brothers and sisters in IT and BPO industry.
Angela Replied to: Angela
- 30 Aug, 2009
45:
Hi,
i am also a vitim of angel broking ltd .noida branch where my branch manager forced me to resign but i have not resign then he has terminated me from the company.He has putten false allegation on me.i approached to higher up's of the company but no response.Hr is also not responding properly.this is a very serious condition where employe has no value and on decesions of managers they fire the employe.Goverment should take actions where people are not safe that's why people are afraid to to do jobs because they feel not safe.
i am also a vitim of angel broking ltd .noida branch where my branch manager forced me to resign but i have not resign then he has terminated me from the company.He has putten false allegation on me.i approached to higher up's of the company but no response.Hr is also not responding properly.this is a very serious condition where employe has no value and on decesions of managers they fire the employe.Goverment should take actions where people are not safe that's why people are afraid to to do jobs because they feel not safe.
Posted by:Gaurav
- 29 Aug, 2009
46:
If this is your standard of English,you do deserve to be sacked.What is 'PUTTEN' ? Your grammar & spelling are so horrible . Who recruited you ?
axeman Replied to: Gaurav
- 30 Aug, 2009
47:
dont worry dude, people like u (pretending they knw eng) are also being fired so , dont count it here ..ok ?, and there is a spell mistake in ur name , swap r and v , thats what ur mind is full of... lolzz
udontmesswidme Replied to: axeman
- 30 Aug, 2009
48:
Concept here is to discuss rather getting into personal mr perfect, are you the son born to british? because those people only spekas English and in India i don't think anybody mother tounge is English
Shivdhan K M Replied to: axeman
- 28 Nov, 2009
49:
This kind of things not only happening in Hcl or Wipro. In this case people have committed in public place so it is noticed. But what about people who are tortured & faced the above not in public.Bharti Airtel Services Ltd is being one of the worst companies in these kind of cases,But nothing gets notified outside people who r in lower level suffer
a lot. It all happens in internal politics. Take from Top to bottom level designated want their own people to survive this is a period only for chamchas & buckets in the industry who survive. HR plays great role giving ideas how to screw one guys career & life in organisation. They make good performer not to perform utilize him, make all his hardwork achievements efforts to be enjoyed by the wrong person who does not deserve it. If anyone tries to fight for it he vl b sacked from office to his residence also. This is present scenario happening in our country.
a lot. It all happens in internal politics. Take from Top to bottom level designated want their own people to survive this is a period only for chamchas & buckets in the industry who survive. HR plays great role giving ideas how to screw one guys career & life in organisation. They make good performer not to perform utilize him, make all his hardwork achievements efforts to be enjoyed by the wrong person who does not deserve it. If anyone tries to fight for it he vl b sacked from office to his residence also. This is present scenario happening in our country.
Posted by:sundaram
- 29 Aug, 2009
50:
If this is your standard of English,you do deserve to be sacked.
axeman Replied to: sundaram
- 30 Aug, 2009
51:
Hey axeman, are you a grammar teacher? Let everyone share their experiences with their companies, don't pinpoint anyone mate.
pointer-to-pointer Replied to: axeman
- 13 Oct, 2009
52:
Hi,
There are several IT Companies which follow what Wipro has been doing all these days! Scope International is also one among them. They have also sent lots of people outside forcing them to resign even if they had performed very well before!
There are several IT Companies which follow what Wipro has been doing all these days! Scope International is also one among them. They have also sent lots of people outside forcing them to resign even if they had performed very well before!
Posted by:Victim
- 29 Aug, 2009
53:
To make scenarios worse, in almost all companies, people are discriminated and harassed based on community (especially Brahmins Vs Non brahimns). and the 'B' community doesn't let others grow. At the cost of others, the 'B's grow. "IT Companies" may sound very sophasticated..but its very ungly inside.....
Posted by:Gandhi
- 29 Aug, 2009
54:
Co. will sack ppl when not reqd. BUT co. has a responsibility towards their employees. They must be compensated for the loss. They must be given at least 3 months benefits and some sort of support to find a new job or start some business.
Regarding Wipro Technologies, I know they are playing very unprofessional tactics to remove ppl and avoid paying compensation to forced resigned ppl. Employees are under stress. I think co. will pay for this in the long run.
Regarding Wipro Technologies, I know they are playing very unprofessional tactics to remove ppl and avoid paying compensation to forced resigned ppl. Employees are under stress. I think co. will pay for this in the long run.
Posted by:NavinK
- 28 Aug, 2009
55:
hi
i quit from IT b4 two years, now i am in my dads biss., pls peoples in IT should UNITE and to start a IT EMPLOYEE UNION other wise U cant fight with this companies (like Prev. SOUTH INDIAN COMPANY).
i quit from IT b4 two years, now i am in my dads biss., pls peoples in IT should UNITE and to start a IT EMPLOYEE UNION other wise U cant fight with this companies (like Prev. SOUTH INDIAN COMPANY).
Posted by:srinivasan
- 28 Aug, 2009
56:
Visit http://www.unitespro.org and join the movement.
Raj Replied to: srinivasan
- 29 Aug, 2009
57:
What is the police doing when people are dying due to harassment in wipro. Today it is vishal tomorrow it is some one else and wipro is erasing all types of evidences. The police should impartially investigate so that others in wipro and other companies would get inspiration to report harassment and other crimes by wipro managers.
Posted by:manju
- 28 Aug, 2009
58:
I agree manju..in my case the police is not even believing what we are saying. They dont accept written complaints that we lodge. They dont listen to us seriously and they treat us like a joke when we go to complain.
prathap Replied to: manju
- 30 Aug, 2009
59:
Who is the person giving instructions to fire people by these extreme methods. Can any one judge.
Posted by:padma
- 28 Aug, 2009
60:
Should be "Pratik Kumar" or "Rishad Premji" with approval from Azim Premji himself.
harsha Replied to: padma
- 28 Aug, 2009
61:
Guys I was in the USA on H1B after my M.S studies and worked for 2 years before I lost my job in USA.
I came back to India in March 2009 thinking I will get a job here. Till now I have not got a job. But I have a few interviews lined up and hope to get a job soon.
Suicide is the worst thing you can do....I am talking from experience since I too have lost the job and understand your feelings.
Just wait for the good time since Good time will come for everyone.
I came back to India in March 2009 thinking I will get a job here. Till now I have not got a job. But I have a few interviews lined up and hope to get a job soon.
Suicide is the worst thing you can do....I am talking from experience since I too have lost the job and understand your feelings.
Just wait for the good time since Good time will come for everyone.
Posted by:saurav
- 28 Aug, 2009
62:
Hi Saurav ,
Saw your blog in http://www.siliconindia.com/shownews/Sacked_Wipro_employee_alleges_harassment-nid-60537.html
Would like to know more about the situation Particular in US and Canada , I am planing to continue my higher studies higher studies in Canada , is there also the situation same like US , I am planning for 2010 intake Fall session for MS in Computer Science.
I am reachable @ 09739007277 Please give me your contact number so that I can discuss and if possible change my plans accordingly
Saw your blog in http://www.siliconindia.com/shownews/Sacked_Wipro_employee_alleges_harassment-nid-60537.html
Would like to know more about the situation Particular in US and Canada , I am planing to continue my higher studies higher studies in Canada , is there also the situation same like US , I am planning for 2010 intake Fall session for MS in Computer Science.
I am reachable @ 09739007277 Please give me your contact number so that I can discuss and if possible change my plans accordingly
Shiv Replied to: saurav
- 29 Aug, 2009
63:
Dear Friends,
As all of you know comitting suicide is always a bad option.
So what if you have 3-4 million loan on you and bank will take your home from you in which you have put all your savings so far. So what if you have a family to look after, your ailing parents, your kids' education etc and you are out of your job.
Even worst than what I have mentioned here, can give you only a temporary stress. Believe me, if you have courage, with time not only you will compensate your losses but you will go beyond that.
But what if you commit suicide. its permanent loss.
What happens when a person commits suicide:
1. Person's family and loved ones get a trauma to haunt them throughout their lives.
2. Companies or persons who made him to commit suicide will hardly be impacted or punished. Life will be usual for them after a while.
3. You are earning source of your family which is lost forever. Now who will take care of them?
4. Companies or persons who made person to commit suicide gets another person.
5. All your policies like Insurance will NOT PAY anything to your loved once as all agreement gets void for commiting suicide.
6. Any great cause like UNION formation is negatively impacted due to this. See here people have forgotten about Ram's case and talking about a dead person who can not fight forget about winning. Focus is lost and effort of Ram is also wasted.
IN SHORT YOU AND YOUR ASSOCIATES LOOSE AND VILLAINS GET BENEFITED. PLEASE DONT TAKE SUCH STEPS, NO MATTER WHATEVER HAPPENS.
And for your information, NASSCOM can not balcklist a person who has not broken any contract or who has not done anything illegal. You can always say NO if someone asks you to sign a blank paper or ask you to resign for no reason without any fear.
Check how many persons has been blacklisted by NASSCOM.
And filing a case as Ram did against these anti-social elements for their deeds is always an option.
Its true any company has authority to sack a person with due notice and/or three months salary, and so employee has right to leave with proper notice and/or salary cut. But what is wrong happening in IT industries are
1. people are being asked to stretch all the time meaning two persons doing the job of three persons and third person is being thrown out.
2. people are being thrown out or put on salary cut if they are not billable for few days, just because its recession and whenever required persons with skills are available outside. In other words contract of employment is being broken by company.
And no logic of making profit etc goes here, as companies can not have rights to exploit people. And market pressure to show percentage profit can not result into increased load on workers at lesser wage and job cuts.
3. Companies can not throw people out without proper compensation and for reasons of keeping its profit margin intact. In other words companies has to share risk of bad times as well.
4. What so ever, harassment and unethical behavior at work place is not acceptable.
As IT industries are maturing, it is bound to happen that people will not have higher salary every year due to saturation in demand. But if higher management is willing to maintain its hight salary growth year after year, it will tend to exploit people. And therefore, we need a guard, a UNION, which makes sure that exploitation is not so easy that whenever recession happens, lower management people are thrown on streets just to keep high growth. UNION and labour law is needed to ensure that a higher management salary cut and low operational cost is far easier than laying off people in thousands.
US and Europe have laws which protects employees' rights, which is missing in India, and only an organisational effort can get some thing similar in place in India as well.
As all of you know comitting suicide is always a bad option.
So what if you have 3-4 million loan on you and bank will take your home from you in which you have put all your savings so far. So what if you have a family to look after, your ailing parents, your kids' education etc and you are out of your job.
Even worst than what I have mentioned here, can give you only a temporary stress. Believe me, if you have courage, with time not only you will compensate your losses but you will go beyond that.
But what if you commit suicide. its permanent loss.
What happens when a person commits suicide:
1. Person's family and loved ones get a trauma to haunt them throughout their lives.
2. Companies or persons who made him to commit suicide will hardly be impacted or punished. Life will be usual for them after a while.
3. You are earning source of your family which is lost forever. Now who will take care of them?
4. Companies or persons who made person to commit suicide gets another person.
5. All your policies like Insurance will NOT PAY anything to your loved once as all agreement gets void for commiting suicide.
6. Any great cause like UNION formation is negatively impacted due to this. See here people have forgotten about Ram's case and talking about a dead person who can not fight forget about winning. Focus is lost and effort of Ram is also wasted.
IN SHORT YOU AND YOUR ASSOCIATES LOOSE AND VILLAINS GET BENEFITED. PLEASE DONT TAKE SUCH STEPS, NO MATTER WHATEVER HAPPENS.
And for your information, NASSCOM can not balcklist a person who has not broken any contract or who has not done anything illegal. You can always say NO if someone asks you to sign a blank paper or ask you to resign for no reason without any fear.
Check how many persons has been blacklisted by NASSCOM.
And filing a case as Ram did against these anti-social elements for their deeds is always an option.
Its true any company has authority to sack a person with due notice and/or three months salary, and so employee has right to leave with proper notice and/or salary cut. But what is wrong happening in IT industries are
1. people are being asked to stretch all the time meaning two persons doing the job of three persons and third person is being thrown out.
2. people are being thrown out or put on salary cut if they are not billable for few days, just because its recession and whenever required persons with skills are available outside. In other words contract of employment is being broken by company.
And no logic of making profit etc goes here, as companies can not have rights to exploit people. And market pressure to show percentage profit can not result into increased load on workers at lesser wage and job cuts.
3. Companies can not throw people out without proper compensation and for reasons of keeping its profit margin intact. In other words companies has to share risk of bad times as well.
4. What so ever, harassment and unethical behavior at work place is not acceptable.
As IT industries are maturing, it is bound to happen that people will not have higher salary every year due to saturation in demand. But if higher management is willing to maintain its hight salary growth year after year, it will tend to exploit people. And therefore, we need a guard, a UNION, which makes sure that exploitation is not so easy that whenever recession happens, lower management people are thrown on streets just to keep high growth. UNION and labour law is needed to ensure that a higher management salary cut and low operational cost is far easier than laying off people in thousands.
US and Europe have laws which protects employees' rights, which is missing in India, and only an organisational effort can get some thing similar in place in India as well.
Posted by:WouldLike2BAnonymous
- 28 Aug, 2009
64:
Visit http://www.unitespro.org and join the movement.
Together we can!
Together we can!
Raj Replied to: WouldLike2BAnonymous
- 29 Aug, 2009
65:
All,
No body in this INDIAN Government will think about taking a action or intervene in such cases, becos these are the companies that earns FOREX revenues to the country and feed the dirty politicians for their election needs.
The forums, blogs just could be a vent out and NOT a solution provider
No body in this INDIAN Government will think about taking a action or intervene in such cases, becos these are the companies that earns FOREX revenues to the country and feed the dirty politicians for their election needs.
The forums, blogs just could be a vent out and NOT a solution provider
Posted by:6grams
- 28 Aug, 2009
66:
If you are really unlucky you will work in Wipro. I have denied Wipro's offer 2 times. Their salary is very less.Let us all stand together, when even we change job, let us ignore WIPRO.Everyone knows that AZIM is a good businessman.He does not care about anything else.
Feel Sorry for Vishal.
Feel Sorry for Vishal.
Posted by:Raj
- 28 Aug, 2009
67:
Soon a new word going to be added in the dictionary of slang language. Guess what? Wiproite. This is the company for politicians. If you know politics well (bad obviously) please join Wipro and soon become a Wiproite.
noMatterWho Replied to: Raj
- 28 Aug, 2009
68:
what crap and waste these comments are. people a buisness will do what is good for them not for employees. thats what business is about making profits. if something is to be done then we should pursue a Nasscom or other bodies to make rules for severance. today they are such that companies resort to other ways. Abusing Wipro may not help all business are like these. AND WELL WE INDIVIDIUALS ARE NO DIFFERENT. WE ARE EQUALLY SELFISH LIKE A WIPRO OR A INFOSYS OR A IBM OR ANYONE.
IF you do not AGREE ANSWER HONESTLY THE BELOW:
do you give all your salary the maids who work at your house, no why dont you give her bonus when you get it, why dont you allow her to maintain similar lifestyle like you? if she does not mop the floor or do cleaning propoerly why do you change her and not continue with her? why do you fire her? why?
if you lose your job will you not fire the maid which work for you? if business is not doing well it will also reduce costs say employees.
Crap your discussion is and its not Wipro or other companies as business is about profits and not charity. WIPRO is still far more cleaner than some others. Having worked for a decade i know. If something is to be done labour laws to fire made easy and a good severance (exit) pacakage to be bargained from. NASSCOM should wake up, Government should wake up. Also we need higher PF, Gratuity other social Security like we have in US.
IF you do not AGREE ANSWER HONESTLY THE BELOW:
do you give all your salary the maids who work at your house, no why dont you give her bonus when you get it, why dont you allow her to maintain similar lifestyle like you? if she does not mop the floor or do cleaning propoerly why do you change her and not continue with her? why do you fire her? why?
if you lose your job will you not fire the maid which work for you? if business is not doing well it will also reduce costs say employees.
Crap your discussion is and its not Wipro or other companies as business is about profits and not charity. WIPRO is still far more cleaner than some others. Having worked for a decade i know. If something is to be done labour laws to fire made easy and a good severance (exit) pacakage to be bargained from. NASSCOM should wake up, Government should wake up. Also we need higher PF, Gratuity other social Security like we have in US.
Posted by:Sumit
- 28 Aug, 2009
69:
you reply is abosulte crap. The question is not only about sacking but about harrassment. If the management says that we are running oout of business. why do they stilp provide the perks to the snipor executives. Also as someone mentioned earlier. Not only wipro made profits becoz of hard work but becoz of sacking employees. This is prudent from the Senior executive's remark when he was asked about sacking employees.
Reporter: You have sacked more number of employees this quater. your comment on that.
WIPRO Exeecutive:(Not mentioning his name) Sacking employees will improve our margins next quarter so we will realize those effects (profits, Profits , Profits ) in the next quarter. If theey are so concerned about Profits why cant they sack those Senior Executives who are getting hefty package ?
Reporter: You have sacked more number of employees this quater. your comment on that.
WIPRO Exeecutive:(Not mentioning his name) Sacking employees will improve our margins next quarter so we will realize those effects (profits, Profits , Profits ) in the next quarter. If theey are so concerned about Profits why cant they sack those Senior Executives who are getting hefty package ?
Naren Replied to: Sumit
- 28 Aug, 2009
70:
Because they add more value than you,Naren. What Sumit says is right.& the faster you realize it the better for you. Companies exist only for profits & not for charity.Ok ?
axeman Replied to: Naren
- 30 Aug, 2009
71:
it looks that you are also ready to jump.
vishal Replied to: Sumit
- 28 Aug, 2009
72:
dear u missed whole bloody point. Please look to Wipro's margin of last qtr/YOY. They made profit and stands well in compare to others in industry. That's mean wiproites are doing hard work in bad times. Now tell me will u fire a maid who stands for u in ur bad time when u still have good money.
someone Replied to: Sumit
- 28 Aug, 2009
73:
Raise your voice http://www.petitiononline.com/
Send the URL to all the people.Lets very one raise the voice.
Send the URL to all the people.Lets very one raise the voice.
Petition Replied to: someone
- 28 Aug, 2009
74:
Someone,
My dad had a small business sometime back and well you need profits to do investment and grow. its not about just salaries. India IT grew because of salary differntial but the way salaries have increased the IT business will move to other cheaper countries if profits are not used to add value offerings.
I will agree with Sumit, a good maid who stands in your bad time, if i have to fire i will make sure that i give her support (not necessary financial) and that's all required, this is what we need to fight for. All companies are same.
My dad had a small business sometime back and well you need profits to do investment and grow. its not about just salaries. India IT grew because of salary differntial but the way salaries have increased the IT business will move to other cheaper countries if profits are not used to add value offerings.
I will agree with Sumit, a good maid who stands in your bad time, if i have to fire i will make sure that i give her support (not necessary financial) and that's all required, this is what we need to fight for. All companies are same.
Jeevan Replied to: someone
- 28 Aug, 2009
75:
Hi All,
I am Technie working in wipro for more than 5 years,I came for onsite to offshore last month.Suddenly they asking me to quit the company without any reason...
my Total experience is aroung 10 years.I frankly don't know to how react and live.
I was abused by the chennai HR in the bad way.They are threating me and they are saying if i will not quit he is saying that he can launch a complaints me..
He asking me to sign in the empty White Paper.He is saying even he can fill a that i robbed any things from company.
This is one of the worst bad Manager in chennai called Shaval Murthy..
Guys let all be unite and face the problem
I am Technie working in wipro for more than 5 years,I came for onsite to offshore last month.Suddenly they asking me to quit the company without any reason...
my Total experience is aroung 10 years.I frankly don't know to how react and live.
I was abused by the chennai HR in the bad way.They are threating me and they are saying if i will not quit he is saying that he can launch a complaints me..
He asking me to sign in the empty White Paper.He is saying even he can fill a that i robbed any things from company.
This is one of the worst bad Manager in chennai called Shaval Murthy..
Guys let all be unite and face the problem
Posted by:priya Krishnamurthy
- 28 Aug, 2009
76:
Hi Priya,
Please let me know if you need any legal advise. I can connect you to the best lawyers in the business. Moreover it is decision time for you. If you believe in fighting back then only take a legal recourse otherwise you will lose your way in between. Also you should make up your mind to fight all the way. Some good hearted people can only help change such abusive system.
Please let me know if you need any legal advise. I can connect you to the best lawyers in the business. Moreover it is decision time for you. If you believe in fighting back then only take a legal recourse otherwise you will lose your way in between. Also you should make up your mind to fight all the way. Some good hearted people can only help change such abusive system.
Santhosh Min Replied to: priya Krishnamurthy
- 25 Sep, 2009
77:
Please face all these since we are born to face! No escuses untill you jump and Suicide. This is the present leaving of human life. Interested live on, if not JUMP! simple and too simple. No feelings in this world, U "N" Me are artificial only.
Posted by:Raj
- 28 Aug, 2009
78:
Indians have not got the real independance. People are always there waiting to spoil someone else's career. In the IT industry, the managers think that they have come from heaven. They think they can do what they like. They were also an fresher once upon a time and have come across all these stages. Most IT employees except below the manager level are facing the same issue. The managers get all the work done and screw up in appraisal and give wrong feedback to senior management. The only way to stop this is to start a union for IT employees. If all the Indian IT employees stop working for one week, then the world will witness the real scenario. This is applicable to all Indians abroad. Our brains are being drilled deep like a bore well. For money sake, people forget the basic discipline of behaving. we are being treated as slaves, don't know when we will get freedom from Indians.
IT slave Replied to: Raj
- 28 Aug, 2009
79:
THIS IS AZIM PREMJI'S SIX SIXGMA STANDARDS AND BENCHMARKS. AZIM PREMJI'S POLICY OF DOING BUSINESS, IS THAT WHEN HE DOESN'T seem the business profitable or he doesn't see Break even. he adopts the strategies of retrenchement by hook or crook. this what he has done with Wipro desktop and server business. he doesn't want to share more margins with the channel partners. the asked the distributors to take care of the business by asking the channel partners to quit.
Posted by:madhu
- 28 Aug, 2009
80:
raise your voice on http://www.petitiononline.com/
petition Replied to: madhu
- 28 Aug, 2009
81:
TALKS TALKS TALKS.. I guess we people in IT are used to typing and type everything out.. but dont do any damn thing about it.. So many WIPROITES crying here.. moaning and blabbering that WIPRO is this and it is that.. Hell guyzz, y the hell dont u'll get together and do something abt it. There are people from ViSHAL's project who are saying that it is not VISHAL's fault.. well buddy ur waiting for a Mail to come from the HR.. y dont u write an email to the HR, put all employees in CC and ask for the reason of the EMPLOYEES condition..I guess even ur scared for your job.. Nothing personal guyz.. just that we in IT are forgetting that the companies exist because of us, we do not exist because of the companies.. It is high time we have to move things for our rights... I am in for starting anything that can change this and save people like VISHAL.. I guess we can use our LOGICAL brains to something other than coding.. ITs time we start LIVING..
We are the change we want to be
We are the change we want to be
Posted by:IAMCHANGING
- 28 Aug, 2009
82:
ok.. u suggest one so as very one.
Naren Replied to: IAMCHANGING
- 28 Aug, 2009
83:
After reading all these comments i am happy as i am not there in wipro, i also started my career with Wipro Infotech around 5yrs back. After working for 2yrs there in 5k per month when my time came to join Core company Top management took a decision to moved me on franchise payroll(I joined as trainee there) When i refused to do this then these people threaten me as they will screw my career also said as this is a small world so be careful. Its almost 3yrs now here in Genpact and i can say the kind of flexibility and options employees have here in this organization no other company can offer the same. but the only thing which people don't like in Genpact is salary, Otherwise everyone knows the amount of freedom and flexibility which a Genpact employee enjoys that no other company's employee enjoys.
Posted by:Unknown
- 28 Aug, 2009
84:
I have been an ex employee of the aforementioned organisation, and I can confirm that I had to face similar tactics used by my supervisor when I resigned. He almost threatened to have me blacklisted if I did not stay longer than the notice period to complete an assignment.Only I know how I came out of that mess eventually, by staying low.
Posted by:Monty
- 28 Aug, 2009
85:
All the rules and regulations done by wipro is for junior employees.And these managers always think that their problem is only problem and others have no problem.There should be one objective where employee can give the rating for their manager. Then only the managers can behave in a proper way.
Posted by:prasad
- 28 Aug, 2009
86:
hi,
Even i was done the same. I was working with an staffing company. I joined them in oct 05 since then i have recevied many awards with the company and also the client i was working for. I went on my maternity leave and after returing things change a new manager called Aftab started playing politics and forced me to resign. I camplained to my HR but they said Magers are always right so i had to leave.
Even i was done the same. I was working with an staffing company. I joined them in oct 05 since then i have recevied many awards with the company and also the client i was working for. I went on my maternity leave and after returing things change a new manager called Aftab started playing politics and forced me to resign. I camplained to my HR but they said Magers are always right so i had to leave.
Posted by:rama
- 28 Aug, 2009
87:
no comments plese.........we need a union to rise questions on organisations
test Replied to: rama
- 28 Aug, 2009
88:
I am ex employee of a Very Reputed MNC in India. I have worked there for 4+ years. There are more than 400+ comments on this single article. And the comments keep on coming every day.
People are talking about how there must be a union to protect the employees, how deserving people are made to work for a very less salary, how PPF is getting cut inspite of promises made by the companies, how people are committing suicide due to work pressure. I want to make some simle observation on this.
When are we going to understand that all companies operate on profit margins. Any employee thus, coming under expense column of a company. In all cases, I dont see any fault from the company side in what they are doing. I see fault from employee side. When the profit margin decrease, companies will do whatever they can to increase, whether that is forging it (Like Satyam), cutting Variable allowance or Promotions (Like TCS) or extracting more work with less and less salary. What you and me must understand (and it is high time) that this is not going to change. We in India are experiencing it now, in US this has been happening for the last 30 years.
As part of my work, I meet a lot of people. I know how it is out there. But of all the people I meet, very few are their who are willing to do something about. Most of them just talk, with friends, co-workers or sometimes on forums like this.
This is a very general comment, but if any person wants to take charge of the their future and not just waste time talking about it, this is my mail id: ajoyajay@gmail.com
Throw me a mail with your contact information and location, I can seriously help you in this. Dont mail me if you just want to check it out. What I will suggest will take guts and so is not for everyone.
People are talking about how there must be a union to protect the employees, how deserving people are made to work for a very less salary, how PPF is getting cut inspite of promises made by the companies, how people are committing suicide due to work pressure. I want to make some simle observation on this.
When are we going to understand that all companies operate on profit margins. Any employee thus, coming under expense column of a company. In all cases, I dont see any fault from the company side in what they are doing. I see fault from employee side. When the profit margin decrease, companies will do whatever they can to increase, whether that is forging it (Like Satyam), cutting Variable allowance or Promotions (Like TCS) or extracting more work with less and less salary. What you and me must understand (and it is high time) that this is not going to change. We in India are experiencing it now, in US this has been happening for the last 30 years.
As part of my work, I meet a lot of people. I know how it is out there. But of all the people I meet, very few are their who are willing to do something about. Most of them just talk, with friends, co-workers or sometimes on forums like this.
This is a very general comment, but if any person wants to take charge of the their future and not just waste time talking about it, this is my mail id: ajoyajay@gmail.com
Throw me a mail with your contact information and location, I can seriously help you in this. Dont mail me if you just want to check it out. What I will suggest will take guts and so is not for everyone.
Posted by:Ajay Joy
- 28 Aug, 2009
89:
I have a serious problem with your observations. Weather it is USA or India, its not justified for any organization to treate its employees like a tool and discard it when the organization feels like. You sound like you have a plan, whats the idea?
daddy Replied to: Ajay Joy
- 13 Sep, 2009
90:
Greetings from UNITES Professionals.
UNITES Professionals is the only Union for IT & ITES employees in India. Affiliated to UNI Global Union (http://www.uniglobalunion.org), which is a global union for skills and services with 15 million members in 900 unions across the globe.
UNITES strives to create a distinct and cogent link between employers & employees at all levels.
Please keep visiting the UNITES website for regular updates on labour situation in IT/ITES industry and any further information and/or assistance regarding "Your Rights at Work".
You can visit our website at www.unitespro.org , fill up the forms in "Become a member" section for membership registration and "Request for Newsletter" section for receiving monthly newsletter.
It is high time all IT/BPO employees unite and join the UNITES movement. This will certainly make IT employees protect their rights and have a strong voice.
UNITES Professionals is the only Union for IT & ITES employees in India. Affiliated to UNI Global Union (http://www.uniglobalunion.org), which is a global union for skills and services with 15 million members in 900 unions across the globe.
UNITES strives to create a distinct and cogent link between employers & employees at all levels.
Please keep visiting the UNITES website for regular updates on labour situation in IT/ITES industry and any further information and/or assistance regarding "Your Rights at Work".
You can visit our website at www.unitespro.org , fill up the forms in "Become a member" section for membership registration and "Request for Newsletter" section for receiving monthly newsletter.
It is high time all IT/BPO employees unite and join the UNITES movement. This will certainly make IT employees protect their rights and have a strong voice.
UNITES Professionals Replied to: Ajay Joy
- 28 Aug, 2009
91:
Many people are frustrated with the way layoff is done ind India under the guise of performance issues. That does not happen in US. Companies layoff employees, publicly announce it and pay severance package. India companies don't want to own the responsibility of layoff and pay the severance. They brag about their non-existent humane face saying they didn't layoff people even during recession. In fact many Indian IT biggies including wipro shamelessly discriminate based on age (they call it bulge mix). People in US would have sued their ass of if this had happened. Unfortunately we don't have any labour law against age discrimination in India. Pl stop comparing US and India. If you want to give up saying it can't be stopped, that is your choice. I know some people are uniting and forming IT union. Hope we can have more bargaining power as employees and treated with dignity and respect.
wipro-employee Replied to: Ajay Joy
- 28 Aug, 2009
92:
Hi All, Recently I was working with an Top MNC, in a master-slave relationship. Even after having 3+ years of experience. Due to recession, became disgusted to against the manager.
Just after the joining, dumped all work on to me, due to recession around, didn't act against the manager. I wasn't also performing due new environment all over.
They forcibly made me to quit. Now they have blacklisted my resume.
Just after the joining, dumped all work on to me, due to recession around, didn't act against the manager. I wasn't also performing due new environment all over.
They forcibly made me to quit. Now they have blacklisted my resume.
Posted by:revenge
- 28 Aug, 2009
93:
Hi small suggestion for you, please take a revenge against them no problem what ever happens to him
sss Replied to: revenge
- 28 Aug, 2009
94:
India IT is always in a master slave realtion. Employees always have to work after hours without geting anything. All the employees thinks that they are pleasing their boss. But actually this is not the case. After the project everybody forgets. Now all the companie are triming their workforce by taking the opportunity of so called recession.
Taju Replied to: revenge
- 28 Aug, 2009
95:
To sum up - Wipro sucks... and Premji sucks even more.
Posted by:Deepak
- 28 Aug, 2009
96:
Wipro Sucks.I am very happy I left Wipro around 1 year back!
Posted by:Vik
- 28 Aug, 2009
97:
Hi, I am not an employee of Wipro but reading all these things I feel very bad for all the wiproites. I think we all IT peoples need a strong union to put forward all our dificulties.
Secondly I will suggest all wiproites to unite and go for a strong protest and 1-2 week no work .
Secondly I will suggest all wiproites to unite and go for a strong protest and 1-2 week no work .
Posted by:Arup
- 28 Aug, 2009
98:
one of my friend was asked to send resignation letter after he was called back from US...Wipro is forcing employees to take this new exam UCF, which is all mandatory for all jounior level employees and if you don't pass in 2-3 attempts, you will be given NI in annual appraisal and eventually asked to leave and worst part is that these senior ba.., who have earned the fortune in peak time are making the rules. these A., who are nothing but a bunch of incapabable pigs are now suddenly thinking of coming up with this idea of exams.
I myself is Wiproite and believe me have been feeling disgusting.I am looking for change and get out of this company as soon as I can.
But, I feel it is high time to start taking these companies to the court and sue them for mental ...
I myself is Wiproite and believe me have been feeling disgusting.I am looking for change and get out of this company as soon as I can.
But, I feel it is high time to start taking these companies to the court and sue them for mental ...
Posted by:someone
- 28 Aug, 2009
99:
dude, UCF is not a new exam. It existed as TPG in BFSI earlier. People are asked to give exams in certain topics even if they have no prior experience it. They are likely to fail and asked to quit once they are unbillable. No wonder both the reported cases of harassment/death are from BFSI vertical. I heard that the PES division head wanted to layoff 10%, but his kindhearted deputy didn't agree and was able to bargain it down to 7%.
wipro-hater Replied to: someone
- 28 Aug, 2009
100:
dude, BFSI is not whole Wipro so 90 percent of the Wiprorite didn't know about it till UCF came in......UCF was new to us, which is being mandatory for everyone...and yes, you are correct... these tests are made to fail......
I took one of this non-sense test and was feeling so disgusting on the questions.....Those are not to challange employees to enhance their knowledge but to listed them out...
THERE MUST BE SOMETHING, WHICH EMPLOYEE CAN DO
MAYBE DEVELOP A WEBSITE, WHICH WILL BE ACCESSIBLE BY EVERYONE TO GIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT A COMPANY SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW VERY WELL WHAT THEY ARE GOING INTO...IT WILL BE LIKE BUYING A PRODUCT FROM THE MARKET AND YOUVE TO READ THROUGH CUSTOMERS FEEDBACK....
MAY GOD GIVE PEACE and REST IN HELL TO ALL BLOODSUCKER...
I took one of this non-sense test and was feeling so disgusting on the questions.....Those are not to challange employees to enhance their knowledge but to listed them out...
THERE MUST BE SOMETHING, WHICH EMPLOYEE CAN DO
MAYBE DEVELOP A WEBSITE, WHICH WILL BE ACCESSIBLE BY EVERYONE TO GIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT A COMPANY SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW VERY WELL WHAT THEY ARE GOING INTO...IT WILL BE LIKE BUYING A PRODUCT FROM THE MARKET AND YOUVE TO READ THROUGH CUSTOMERS FEEDBACK....
MAY GOD GIVE PEACE and REST IN HELL TO ALL BLOODSUCKER...
Someone Replied to: wipro-hater
- 28 Aug, 2009
101:
yes we need some website to put reviews on companies and their politics, there is one called www.jobeehive.com please give the honest feedback on companies and other way to fight back these worst companies by making them resource scarce, then they will understand value of manpower esp in knowledge industry. Good news for you all, gov of india has scrapped all labour laws for IT companies for 2 years today(31-08-2009) Enjoy the pain
truth Replied to: Someone
- 01 Sep, 2009
102:
What is ERICH,for all stake holders.
I had spoken to some of the wipro employees asking about Enrich.
It is no way entry back to work.
1. The enrich program is about sending employees home with a promise to pay half salary(Actually breaking their final settlement in pieces and claiming that they dont fire employees).
2. People in enrich would not be entertained in any projects for a period of three months
3. The standing instructions to Project managers are "Dont not get people from Enrich program, instead take a campus recruit and put work pressure and get the work out of them at the lowest cost".
4. After three months he/she would be declared unfit as he he/she is not in any project.
5. He/She would be asked to leave wipro with the last piece of his settlement amount(Which they would have paid if he or she had resigned) as they have paid him/her the three months.
6. He/She cannot resign during Enrich program even if they have opportunities else where.
7. He/She would be coming to office twice a week on papers....but in reality he/she has to come to office 6 days a week and work for half pay which is actually him own money which they would have given as final settlement.
7. On failing to do he/she will be black listed in NASSCOM.
8. One must not speak of this to anyone else in the organization(the interviee claims this as "Un-yeilding Integrity" and "Acting with Sensitivity".
I had spoken to some of the wipro employees asking about Enrich.
It is no way entry back to work.
1. The enrich program is about sending employees home with a promise to pay half salary(Actually breaking their final settlement in pieces and claiming that they dont fire employees).
2. People in enrich would not be entertained in any projects for a period of three months
3. The standing instructions to Project managers are "Dont not get people from Enrich program, instead take a campus recruit and put work pressure and get the work out of them at the lowest cost".
4. After three months he/she would be declared unfit as he he/she is not in any project.
5. He/She would be asked to leave wipro with the last piece of his settlement amount(Which they would have paid if he or she had resigned) as they have paid him/her the three months.
6. He/She cannot resign during Enrich program even if they have opportunities else where.
7. He/She would be coming to office twice a week on papers....but in reality he/she has to come to office 6 days a week and work for half pay which is actually him own money which they would have given as final settlement.
7. On failing to do he/she will be black listed in NASSCOM.
8. One must not speak of this to anyone else in the organization(the interviee claims this as "Un-yeilding Integrity" and "Acting with Sensitivity".
Posted by:Joseph
- 28 Aug, 2009
103:
I am horrified to know that one of our colleagues died because of HR malpractices in WEEP-RO. May his soul rest at peace and all those responsible for the incident be cursed to death. I am ashamed to call myself a wiproite. Disease is at the top (Ajim Premji,Suresh Vaswani, Girish Paranjpe, Pratik Kumar). People like Amit Bakdas, Anuradha Raju and Ganesh Halapeti are only symptoms. I hope Mr. Premji gets some time off from counting his dollars and take notice of what is happening in the company. This company has rapidly degenrated in to a giant bodyshop after the exit of Vivek Paul. Joint CEOs are just a big joke.
Posted by:weep-roite
- 28 Aug, 2009
104:
yeah, it's a bodyshop and pimps (top management, HR guys) are having a field day. The day you don't get a customer (unbillable), hell will break loose.
hoping-to-be-xwiproite-soon Replied to: weep-roite
- 28 Aug, 2009
105:
Is there another suicide going to get un-noticed in Wipro! Yeah they are good at messing up and then covering it all up in no time. I am an employee of Wipro and is working for the same client as was Vishal. Its heard that he had an HR interview the day he committed suicide. Its foolishness to say that a person would be on leave for 3 months and then come to office just to comit suicide! People are made to resign in Wipro forcibily because this corporate dont even want to take the responsibility of firing people. People are harassed by words like "If you dont do what we want, we will put such negetive comments in NASSCOM that you would not get job anywhere in India" and these words come from nobody but the Head HR (Badkas) of BFSI vertical. So I highly doubt that Vishal would have resigned by himself. Police should investigate the appraisal rating he received for this year. Its 3 months over since wipro completed the appraisal process. This year they had targeted some employees from each projects and planned their exits using appraisal process by giving them NI (Needs Improvement). No wonder even if the employee had received an Exceeds Expectation in previous year's appraisal. This is HR policy of use and throw! This doesnt end here. Then they force such employees to resign by humiliating and harassing them, so that they can put a big fake smile to media and say that even during recession they did not fire any employee. Though a person would have worked days and nights for the project and Wipro would have stolen 90% of his hard earned money (Wipro pays its employees only 10% of the money they receive from customers for that resource). Once the project is over they dont wait much to put employee into a program called enrichment where they pay only half the salary and force resource to sign a draconian contract which voids all previous legal documents signed with wipro including the offer letter by threatening them with their unlawful termination. And if employee dont get the project in couple of more months during enrich program, the harassment begins which finally ends with forcible resignation. Employee satisfaction is very low in wipro and many people are waiting for recesssion to get over to escape from this prison of attrocities.
Posted by:San
- 27 Aug, 2009
106:
Buddy, i am cousin of Vishal, our family is going through hard time, we couldn't believe yet tht Vishal did this ! If u know anything tht could help us to know the right matter tht made him to commit suicide, pls. contact me at: anshulstudent@gmail.com
Anshul Replied to: San
- 28 Aug, 2009
107:
Ahyways its very good that at least Wiproites started to raise voices in a union regardless of language and region.
Today morning, we were shocked to see stains on floor of tower S2 ground floor.
yesterday one of our brothers has committed suicide. the security told us the incident last night around 10:30 PM the security at that time was shocked to see a body fall right in front of him on the granite floor, for a moment he couldnt understand what had happened, then he came to his senses, he told that the body almost shattered in the pavement.
Vishal Yadav (Business operations Analyst) Dont know from where but his parents were informed and they accepted the body from hospital...
SPIRIT of WIPRO
Towards 10 AM after the police / MEDIA had taken markings, the facilities, cleaned the floor and people started moving. around that area. Its as though nothing has happened. Not one mail or communication was sent today expressing grief or pity. after all this issue isn\'t a big deal of some big ass being promoted or some idiot completing 10 years etc.
We were waiting for some communication to happen so that we would know the facts instead from other sources.
No communication nothing, only mails like Emerging leaders, K chat etc.
Oohh I HATE this place.
Today morning, we were shocked to see stains on floor of tower S2 ground floor.
yesterday one of our brothers has committed suicide. the security told us the incident last night around 10:30 PM the security at that time was shocked to see a body fall right in front of him on the granite floor, for a moment he couldnt understand what had happened, then he came to his senses, he told that the body almost shattered in the pavement.
Vishal Yadav (Business operations Analyst) Dont know from where but his parents were informed and they accepted the body from hospital...
SPIRIT of WIPRO
Towards 10 AM after the police / MEDIA had taken markings, the facilities, cleaned the floor and people started moving. around that area. Its as though nothing has happened. Not one mail or communication was sent today expressing grief or pity. after all this issue isn\'t a big deal of some big ass being promoted or some idiot completing 10 years etc.
We were waiting for some communication to happen so that we would know the facts instead from other sources.
No communication nothing, only mails like Emerging leaders, K chat etc.
Oohh I HATE this place.
Posted by:wiproite
- 27 Aug, 2009
108:
There is no debate on the point that 'Wipro Sucks', the observations is not restrected only to the IT, its even worse in the Wipro BPO. If we could really unite all the Wiproits, we could make Wipro an EXAMPLE for the entire World.
daddy Replied to: wiproite
- 13 Sep, 2009
109:
How many of you working in Wipro know that contribution towards PPF from the employee and the employer, both are deducted from the employee's salary. It is a part of employee's CTC.
Posted by:wiprosu
- 27 Aug, 2009
110:
Deducting PPF from employee's CTC is happening not only in Wipro, now a days it is very common in almost all private companies. Before joining a company the HR gives a salary break-up sheet which doesnot show this malpractice. And one will come to know only while getting his/her first salary. So in other terms, we have to contributing for employees PPF from both the ends. And you'll be shocked to hear that even this web portal (SI) is no different than others. One of the highly unprofessional media co.
ex-employee Replied to: wiprosu
- 28 Aug, 2009
111:
PPF is Public Provident Fund. What you are talking about is PF.
Don Raphael Replied to: ex-employee
- 28 Aug, 2009
112:
If the investigations turn out to be true, Wipro should be sacked for Harassment of the employee. A criminal case should be booked against everyone who tortured the person. They lack professionalism and ethics!. No union can resolve this. Some managers need to learn the lesson the hard way!
Posted by:Abhishek
- 27 Aug, 2009
113:
If the investigation turns out to be true, the so-called seniors/higher-ups involved in this case should be black-listed in NASSCOM and barred from employment elsewhere. They should be booted out of the company with no company benefits. Also, they should be booked under appropriate criminal charges and their withdrawn company benefits should be given to the concerned employee for causing him mental trauma. This will serve a fitting lesson to the potential trouble makers in the management of other companies.
Sreeram Replied to: Abhishek
- 27 Aug, 2009
114:
Yesterday night a wipro employee died in tower S2.
VISHAL. 35 yrs old (I don't know more details)
He is alleged to have committed suicide by jumping from the 9th floor.
God Help his family.
VISHAL. 35 yrs old (I don't know more details)
He is alleged to have committed suicide by jumping from the 9th floor.
God Help his family.
Posted by:Unknown
- 27 Aug, 2009
115:
Dear SiliconIndia
When u will remove this artlcle!
and
Dear ALL
Please go to the nearest labour court of your city, and check the other industries employees of 10 yrs 15 yrs and 20 yrs experienced persons case. Now only u realised the ULTIMATE concept of the unity on employees.
it is very poor.
DO U KNOW THE MEANING OF THE MAY DAY.!
All of u are giving voice against the company for your ONLY One of your IT person?
KINDLY, Give ALL OF YOUR voice to solve all of our brothers and sisters in the other field also, those who is getting only Rs 2000 to Rs 5000 per month, even through they r well qualified then you.
Thanks & Regards
Lenin
When u will remove this artlcle!
and
Dear ALL
Please go to the nearest labour court of your city, and check the other industries employees of 10 yrs 15 yrs and 20 yrs experienced persons case. Now only u realised the ULTIMATE concept of the unity on employees.
it is very poor.
DO U KNOW THE MEANING OF THE MAY DAY.!
All of u are giving voice against the company for your ONLY One of your IT person?
KINDLY, Give ALL OF YOUR voice to solve all of our brothers and sisters in the other field also, those who is getting only Rs 2000 to Rs 5000 per month, even through they r well qualified then you.
Thanks & Regards
Lenin
Posted by:Lenin
- 26 Aug, 2009
116:
lenin, what you want to say is.... if other people can adjust with the injustice why can't we... right?
or is it if other companies treat humans like anything than why should we stop Wipro from doing so, after all even it is also a bussiness firm totally dedicated to make profit and not for any kind of human consideration for employees or any kind of respect for country or society in which it operates.
I think we are not debating about the salary offered to any employee, we are just asking one simple question :
"is it right to harass a human in close room?"
Now please note "human" stand for any one and not in particular for Wipro employee.
and I think we should feel happy that every one is uniting to fight the injustice. Today they might be fighting for one IT prof, tomorrow they will unite to fight against any other kind of injustice... as u mentioned " people who r qualified and getting low salary" and if this blog is helping the people to unite why you want it to be deleted.
are you a WIPROITE ?
or is it if other companies treat humans like anything than why should we stop Wipro from doing so, after all even it is also a bussiness firm totally dedicated to make profit and not for any kind of human consideration for employees or any kind of respect for country or society in which it operates.
I think we are not debating about the salary offered to any employee, we are just asking one simple question :
"is it right to harass a human in close room?"
Now please note "human" stand for any one and not in particular for Wipro employee.
and I think we should feel happy that every one is uniting to fight the injustice. Today they might be fighting for one IT prof, tomorrow they will unite to fight against any other kind of injustice... as u mentioned " people who r qualified and getting low salary" and if this blog is helping the people to unite why you want it to be deleted.
are you a WIPROITE ?
xyz Replied to: Lenin
- 27 Aug, 2009
117:
Dear XYZ
I am not belongs to wipro and anyother company.
I am lenin alais Ernesto Che Guvera my id cheguvera.ernesto@gmail.com
If you have any questions, plese send email to me, i am always availabe for helping others in all respect!
Thanks & Regards
Ernesto Che Guvera
I am not belongs to wipro and anyother company.
I am lenin alais Ernesto Che Guvera my id cheguvera.ernesto@gmail.com
If you have any questions, plese send email to me, i am always availabe for helping others in all respect!
Thanks & Regards
Ernesto Che Guvera
Erneto Che Guvera Replied to: xyz
- 27 Aug, 2009
118:
Thank you Lenin for saying truth bluntly.
srs Replied to: Lenin
- 26 Aug, 2009
119:
Dear Mr XYZ
\"lenin, what you want to say is.... if other people can adjust with the injustice why can\'t we... right?\"
--- I am not against any company and also the great human rights.ok. And also i am not saying that to adjust with the injustice circumstances.
--- If you or your recommended person is right in his statements against the company(Wipro), Why he is waiting? go and get the free legal services and solve injustice problem.
-\"is it right to harass a human in close room?\"-
Get the legal aid and discuss with the respective person.
The perticular article is the statement from one end.not both the end..please check with the other end also. then only we can come to the conclesion. wether the harassment was happened or not.
My dear XYZ
why i am deleting this article is, THIS IS PURLY FROM ONE SIDE STATEMENT. NOT FROM BOTH END. OK.
Good luck for replying my comments.
Thanks & regards
LENIN
\"lenin, what you want to say is.... if other people can adjust with the injustice why can\'t we... right?\"
--- I am not against any company and also the great human rights.ok. And also i am not saying that to adjust with the injustice circumstances.
--- If you or your recommended person is right in his statements against the company(Wipro), Why he is waiting? go and get the free legal services and solve injustice problem.
-\"is it right to harass a human in close room?\"-
Get the legal aid and discuss with the respective person.
The perticular article is the statement from one end.not both the end..please check with the other end also. then only we can come to the conclesion. wether the harassment was happened or not.
My dear XYZ
why i am deleting this article is, THIS IS PURLY FROM ONE SIDE STATEMENT. NOT FROM BOTH END. OK.
Good luck for replying my comments.
Thanks & regards
LENIN
LENIN Replied to: srs
- 27 Aug, 2009
120:
Just before two months back I was working in wipro Technology as a contract employee. Oneday Suddenly I had Faced the same issue by my manager from the company, while I had not done any mistake. When I faced the issue I came home and simply send a mail to Azim Premjee By puting CC to other Engineers and Managers. After one day I got call from some manager. I went to company and spoke to my manager and the other managers of wipro company. Atlast I felt they did not say anything to the manager, But told me to join the company again as fault was from their side. But I said them to leave the company from myside. Atlast I left the company. I know One thing the behavior of wipro managers are so bad and other thing is they treat the employee like any thing, and use of slang is a common thing for them. So we should not except any type of good responce from them. Cause after leaveing the company also, Sometimes they are cheating with me, Also turchering through the consultance. After leaving the company I faced the lot of problem to get the experience confirmation when I got a new job. So If u really want to fight, take your justice by sending a legal notice from court. If you want then what ever I can I will try to help you. If you want also I can send this mail which I had send to Azim premjee.
yours
Ranjan
yours
Ranjan
Posted by:Shibashisa Manas Ranjan Padhi
- 25 Aug, 2009
121:
If this is your standard of English,you do deserve to be sacked. Who recruited you ?
axeman Replied to: Shibashisa Manas Ranjan Padhi
- 30 Aug, 2009
122:
hi,i also facing the same issue.i was asked to leave the company simply for getting NI.If i ask reason for NI,i have been told it is because of pressure from TED.im simly confuse.Pleas forward me the mail which u sent to Premji to nancy.jerald@gmail.com
Nancy Replied to: Shibashisa Manas Ranjan Padhi
- 28 Aug, 2009
123:
I need your help my mail id is abhishek.roy3112@gmail.com.
Abhishek Roy Replied to: Shibashisa Manas Ranjan Padhi
- 28 Aug, 2009
124:
Hi Ranjan,
I am in kind of a situation too.
I resigned from Wipro on the 13th of aug and had to join my new employer by the 15th of sep. So i gave them a one month notice. They are sayin do whatever u want to do, we will not release u before the 13th of oct (2 months).
Is there a law against this, because i am ready to pay my one month salary in lieu of 1 month short notice period.
Please help wid ur suggestion.
I am in kind of a situation too.
I resigned from Wipro on the 13th of aug and had to join my new employer by the 15th of sep. So i gave them a one month notice. They are sayin do whatever u want to do, we will not release u before the 13th of oct (2 months).
Is there a law against this, because i am ready to pay my one month salary in lieu of 1 month short notice period.
Please help wid ur suggestion.
Ankur Replied to: Shibashisa Manas Ranjan Padhi
- 26 Aug, 2009
125:
Just to bring my reply on top of the page...
let us priortise the tasks at hand,
1. Help Ram in whatever way he needs to fight his case and get the justice.
2. In parallel start a UNION for IT professionals to find the ways how to get further social, media as well as political support for a legalised UNION and labour law.
3. Take the mask out from Wipro's face before its client base and Indian IT professionals by publishing its malpractices.
4. Personal criticism on Villains i.e. Anuradha Raju (Assistant Manager, TED, Testing Services, BFSI), Ganesh Halapeti (Senior Project Manager, AXA, Australia), Saurabh Govil, Senior Vice-President (HR), Wipro Technologies etc by publicing their posters and exposing their works in professional as well as in personal lives (be sure that would be of media's interest).
5. An oraganised protest before E-City Wipro office with a good media exposure.
6. File an application to High Court, seeking a rule for IT companies allowing its employees to form a UNION.
let us priortise the tasks at hand,
1. Help Ram in whatever way he needs to fight his case and get the justice.
2. In parallel start a UNION for IT professionals to find the ways how to get further social, media as well as political support for a legalised UNION and labour law.
3. Take the mask out from Wipro's face before its client base and Indian IT professionals by publishing its malpractices.
4. Personal criticism on Villains i.e. Anuradha Raju (Assistant Manager, TED, Testing Services, BFSI), Ganesh Halapeti (Senior Project Manager, AXA, Australia), Saurabh Govil, Senior Vice-President (HR), Wipro Technologies etc by publicing their posters and exposing their works in professional as well as in personal lives (be sure that would be of media's interest).
5. An oraganised protest before E-City Wipro office with a good media exposure.
6. File an application to High Court, seeking a rule for IT companies allowing its employees to form a UNION.
Posted by:WouldLike2BAnonymous
- 25 Aug, 2009
126:
We have already started the process of forming a platform for IT employees.
Please have a look at www.itpa.org.in
Please have a look at www.itpa.org.in
L.V. Subramaniam Replied to: WouldLike2BAnonymous
- 26 Aug, 2009
127:
Don't forget about Ram's case. Keep his case alive else another such discussion and unity will take time to come. And many more will suffer till then.
WouldLike2BAnonymous Replied to: L.V. Subramaniam
- 26 Aug, 2009
128:
Even I am of those victims who have faced similar kind of fate recently in Wipro Technology. I would be happy to share my experience and the ill treatment meted to me by Wipro Rechnology
Sujit Kumar Thakur Replied to: WouldLike2BAnonymous
- 25 Aug, 2009
129:
Dear All
A Friend of mine has met Ram. He told me that Ram told he could have kept quite like many have done. But he choose to fight for beyond himself, for a greater cause. To bring an awareness among other IT Professionals. Our Awareness, togetherness, and concrete action against the bigger issue will be right tribute to his effort.
I just learnt that he is not keeping well with minor illness. I will meet him over the weekend. There is a group of legal experts, activists, media, Industry experts under formation to take on the bigger issue. To take the movement to its logical conclusion that Ram has started.
A close investigation and discussion has shown that the noxious is much bigger than what meets the eye. With the current arrangement of the noxious, it is almost impossible to curb such mass exploitation in short time. There is a need of reforms and mass movement to change the environment in the favor of the employees.
I would request all our friends here to not forget the issue. And wait for the call by the group to extend your support.
I will invite you all to our formal meeting with opportunity to actively taking part or lead the movement. Meanwhile you can contact me to know detail about the movement and extend your active support.
A Friend of mine has met Ram. He told me that Ram told he could have kept quite like many have done. But he choose to fight for beyond himself, for a greater cause. To bring an awareness among other IT Professionals. Our Awareness, togetherness, and concrete action against the bigger issue will be right tribute to his effort.
I just learnt that he is not keeping well with minor illness. I will meet him over the weekend. There is a group of legal experts, activists, media, Industry experts under formation to take on the bigger issue. To take the movement to its logical conclusion that Ram has started.
A close investigation and discussion has shown that the noxious is much bigger than what meets the eye. With the current arrangement of the noxious, it is almost impossible to curb such mass exploitation in short time. There is a need of reforms and mass movement to change the environment in the favor of the employees.
I would request all our friends here to not forget the issue. And wait for the call by the group to extend your support.
I will invite you all to our formal meeting with opportunity to actively taking part or lead the movement. Meanwhile you can contact me to know detail about the movement and extend your active support.
Posted by:srs
- 25 Aug, 2009
130:
Hi Srs,
I would really be glad to join hands with you and fight aginst the haapenings...Plz keep the updates posted here..
I would really be glad to join hands with you and fight aginst the haapenings...Plz keep the updates posted here..
Waseian Replied to: srs
- 28 Aug, 2009
131:
Hi,
Please provide me your contact number.I will also join the union to fight the injustice against the employees.
Regards,
Sanjeev Kulkarni
Please provide me your contact number.I will also join the union to fight the injustice against the employees.
Regards,
Sanjeev Kulkarni
Sanjeev Replied to: srs
- 27 Aug, 2009
132:
As a ex wiproite I want to list the following points to all.
1. Wipro not loyal to the employee, those who worked hard for sevaral yrs asked to quit because of the recession.
2.Last quater result of wipro was better that other companys, the reason is they are sacking experienced professional and bringing in fresh graduate, I would say this would hit wipro in future.
3. As a big organaisation they can get those exp professional back when they need, but I would suggest dont join in wipro ever.
4.Instead of sacking people they can reduce the salary, I hope few other indian company doing that.
5.They have a program called WASE, the WASEans paid only 6-7k per month but they billed with dollors per hr. For one day billing they can pay the salary. This is the way they making profits. It's totaly unfair.
6.Finally Lets spread the news to all IT techies so that they can aware what wipro is doing to get the profit.
1. Wipro not loyal to the employee, those who worked hard for sevaral yrs asked to quit because of the recession.
2.Last quater result of wipro was better that other companys, the reason is they are sacking experienced professional and bringing in fresh graduate, I would say this would hit wipro in future.
3. As a big organaisation they can get those exp professional back when they need, but I would suggest dont join in wipro ever.
4.Instead of sacking people they can reduce the salary, I hope few other indian company doing that.
5.They have a program called WASE, the WASEans paid only 6-7k per month but they billed with dollors per hr. For one day billing they can pay the salary. This is the way they making profits. It's totaly unfair.
6.Finally Lets spread the news to all IT techies so that they can aware what wipro is doing to get the profit.
Posted by:Activist
- 25 Aug, 2009
133:
We read here that Wipro has policy that bars its employ to practice their legal rights as per the Indian constitution.
The question is. Does Wipro have a different law other that Indian constitution, and Indian labor law?
Which law of the land Wipro is following? It is not following Indian constitution in India.
Not following European law in Europe As mentioned by many friends here. That Wipro violates the Visa rule there.
It was banned from World Bank project for 4 years in 2007in the for bribing.
Many friends have mentioned the malpractice in USA.
Wipro is getting tax exemptions. It is getting Land from Indian government to promote Industry. It is operating with India using and benefiting from the Countries machinery, and systems. It is exploiting the cheap human resource available in India.
The only benefit is there are many who get a decent earning to survive, As long as the market is good. With the cost of their severing right, Dignity, and self-respect, and mental peace.
Personally, it is a heavy price to pay. What you will get if you party with a company having illegal practice.
The question is. Does Wipro have a different law other that Indian constitution, and Indian labor law?
Which law of the land Wipro is following? It is not following Indian constitution in India.
Not following European law in Europe As mentioned by many friends here. That Wipro violates the Visa rule there.
It was banned from World Bank project for 4 years in 2007in the for bribing.
Many friends have mentioned the malpractice in USA.
Wipro is getting tax exemptions. It is getting Land from Indian government to promote Industry. It is operating with India using and benefiting from the Countries machinery, and systems. It is exploiting the cheap human resource available in India.
The only benefit is there are many who get a decent earning to survive, As long as the market is good. With the cost of their severing right, Dignity, and self-respect, and mental peace.
Personally, it is a heavy price to pay. What you will get if you party with a company having illegal practice.
Posted by:Activist
- 24 Aug, 2009
134:
Hello All
All other industries have labout union in the companies but IT is the only industry where labour union is not in force, due to this the HR take a huge salary. Why cant we force the government to have labout union in IT industry. What say guys.
All other industries have labout union in the companies but IT is the only industry where labour union is not in force, due to this the HR take a huge salary. Why cant we force the government to have labout union in IT industry. What say guys.
Rocky Replied to: Activist
- 25 Aug, 2009
135:
let us priortise the tasks at hand,
1. Help Ram in whatever way he needs to fight his case and get the justice.
2. In parallel start a UNION for IT professionals to find the ways how to get further social, media as well as political support for a legalised UNION and labour law.
3. Take the mask out from Wipro's face before its client base and Indian IT professionals by publishing its malpractices.
4. Personal criticism on Villains i.e. Anuradha Raju (Assistant Manager, TED, Testing Services, BFSI), Ganesh Halapeti (Senior Project Manager, AXA, Australia), Saurabh Govil, Senior Vice-President (HR), Wipro Technologies etc by publicing their posters and exposing their works in professional as well as in personal lives (be sure that would be of media's interest).
5. An oraganised protest before E-City Wipro office with a good media exposure.
6. File an application to High Court, seeking a rule for IT companies allowing its employees to form a UNION.
1. Help Ram in whatever way he needs to fight his case and get the justice.
2. In parallel start a UNION for IT professionals to find the ways how to get further social, media as well as political support for a legalised UNION and labour law.
3. Take the mask out from Wipro's face before its client base and Indian IT professionals by publishing its malpractices.
4. Personal criticism on Villains i.e. Anuradha Raju (Assistant Manager, TED, Testing Services, BFSI), Ganesh Halapeti (Senior Project Manager, AXA, Australia), Saurabh Govil, Senior Vice-President (HR), Wipro Technologies etc by publicing their posters and exposing their works in professional as well as in personal lives (be sure that would be of media's interest).
5. An oraganised protest before E-City Wipro office with a good media exposure.
6. File an application to High Court, seeking a rule for IT companies allowing its employees to form a UNION.
WouldLike2BAnonymous Replied to: Rocky
- 25 Aug, 2009
136:
Why cann't we help Ram financially. He has taken a bold step and will give a major impact to Corporate selfishness. All he needs a big publicity and exposure and legal support. Why some one not suggesting Ram to put ad for helping him. And why no social service org or NGO helping him out. I would say 100/200 Rs if every sw eng contributes then he will have good lawyer to fight his case and also other's will be encouraged to challenge the might of these big corporates
unknown Replied to: Activist
- 25 Aug, 2009
137:
Is Any one from Wipro is here who can get Rams telephone number for us to know where is his case?
Rams is only one case and might be a small case, and we have to see the proof, and strength of the case.
It is alwayes very imposible to proove the harasment cases. As it happens inside the office and people usually do not think of gathering proof.
But many cases like Ram can be prevented if we focus on cases where conviction will be possible.
Rams is only one case and might be a small case, and we have to see the proof, and strength of the case.
It is alwayes very imposible to proove the harasment cases. As it happens inside the office and people usually do not think of gathering proof.
But many cases like Ram can be prevented if we focus on cases where conviction will be possible.
Dan Replied to: unknown
- 25 Aug, 2009
138:
With reference to the warning by wipro technologies that its businesses could be "adversely" affected due to the disclosure made by World Bank nearly four months ago that the Indian company was ineligible to work with the international lending institution.as informed to its American shareholders and market regulator Securities and Exchange Commission.This is absolute nonsense. Primarily it has to keep its house in order. Since several months Wipro is losing its exceptionally talented resources due to self-centered mind-set of its human resources management. As per my interface with several wipro and ex wipro employees it is clandestinely getting rid of thousands of employees in an unwarranted manner. In correlation to this, please visit www.lay-off.org website and read all the posts and comments of various affected wipro employees.World bank had only disclosed what it has found in its inquiry and Wipro said that it could adversely affect our business and results of operations. Losing just one customer and that too in Banking sector will definitely not impact its business. It is trying to diverge from other facts which would result in collapse of the company. The management has given clear directions to its HR to fire people in whatever way possible. So in the near future only incapable, incompetent resources would endure in Wipro. There are many legal cases filed against the company by several thousand ex employees of wipro. There are several complaints against the malpractices of the company. The ex employees have also approached several Unions to fight collectively against this high handedness of wipro management. So Wipro will face colossal rebellion by its sacked employees.
Posted by:tej
- 24 Aug, 2009
139:
Guys, I do not know if other Indian companies are also practicing unethical business, but I am sure Wipro is doing so. Wipro employees has been black listed in many european countries due to wrong registration processes ( wipro european staff is helping people to get registered with fake address) and even european goverment is helpless to stop such fraud. People are being asked to work with different countries Visa, yes schangen visa allows you to travel to all the european union countries but you have permission to work in only one country for which you have work permit. However here wipro takes pride to misuse european law.And if a person is caught here only that employee will be punished though he is foolishly following his manager's instructions. Its not the end, customers have started complaining that Wipro first sends good experienced people to get the project, but after some time all the experienced people will be gone and new less experienced people will be left trying to run the project, which spoils their work done so far. And if mention this to managers they will shamelessly approve such initiatives, they say we have learned about the work and this experience in our resume will help to bring in some more projects and there are many such malpractices by Wipro. So its not surprising to see Wipro being unethical to its employees. But surely each of the sacked employee must file a case against this company. And I also support the idea of UNION for IT industry as well. This industry is maturing and exploitation will be increasing to book same profit as before. To safeguard human values and avoid exploitation, it is must to have a well defined labour law for this sector as well, and there must be fear in employers to introduce damaging policy for employees without having a very good reason for the same.I believe this can be achieved only by might of a UNION of minimum size of 10K people, country wide. And further to add here, UNION if forces 2 days strike before WIPRO E-City campus, will prove to be a economical slap on company's face, hence it will stick to its policy only if it sees benefit larger than loss due to two days of no work.Now consider 5 days strike :-)
And if you have many people with this movement you have political will also. And don't bother about bad guys or politicians, they are inevitable, and not a reason for not starting some thing so important.
And if you have many people with this movement you have political will also. And don't bother about bad guys or politicians, they are inevitable, and not a reason for not starting some thing so important.
WouldLike2BAnonymous Replied to: tej
- 24 Aug, 2009
140:
According to company rules, union cannot be formed. It may happen that employees may have to loose their jobs, if they form the union. I would suggest that if Wipro employees want to protest, they should keep the wipro policies in mind, otherwise their acts may have adverse affect on their career.
wiprosu Replied to: WouldLike2BAnonymous
- 24 Aug, 2009
141:
And IT people also cast their vote, and any political party will show interest and support if they see a mass against single cause. Then we should see how one such stupidity will cost Wipro and finally stopping it forever from committing exploitation and human right violation. And Shruti said correctly, WIPRO MUST respect India's law.
WouldLike2BAnonymous Replied to: wiprosu
- 24 Aug, 2009
142:
UNION and STRIKE is not allowed inside Wipro by Wipro Employees, but what about a UNION outside Wipro by many companies' employees WITH HELP OF A VICTIM OF WIPRO's CRIMINAL HR and MANAGERS(like Ram), protesting outside Wipro Campus for Exposing Wipro and with strength to file few cases against it with help of some good Lawyers. This is enough for giving a fullstop to Wipro's unchallenged malpractices. And Wipro employees can participate in similar way to help friends working in other companies.
WouldLike2BAnonymous Replied to: wiprosu
- 24 Aug, 2009
143:
I guess it should more as per the labor law. Wipro operates within India and subjected to law of the land. And its rule cannot be different.
No one can be penalized by any company if they operates within the law of the land. The freedom of a citizen does not seizes to exist if someone joins Wipro. If Wipro takes any action against those operating within the law of the land, then there is something seriously wrong with Wipro. Then the matter is much more serious that we are thinking.
No one can be penalized by any company if they operates within the law of the land. The freedom of a citizen does not seizes to exist if someone joins Wipro. If Wipro takes any action against those operating within the law of the land, then there is something seriously wrong with Wipro. Then the matter is much more serious that we are thinking.
Smruti Replied to: wiprosu
- 24 Aug, 2009
144:
I really appreciate Ram for taking this bold step. It will be more distressing if wipro doesn't own up the responsibility of this torture. Wipro can also hurl away some money to Electronic city police to weaken the case. Wipro Top management was involved in this nexus previously.
Posted by:kushal
- 24 Aug, 2009
145:
We are already in the process of forming a platform for IT Employees. Please go through www.itpa.org.in
Posted by:L.V. Subramaniam
- 24 Aug, 2009
146:
Briliant Innitiative,
I suggest all should join here. All as one in only one platform.
If it is already formed i am in the view to not form any more platform. Rather united in one.
I suggest all should join here. All as one in only one platform.
If it is already formed i am in the view to not form any more platform. Rather united in one.
Smruti Ranjan Replied to: L.V. Subramaniam
- 24 Aug, 2009
147:
It is very heartning to hear these facts and its true that many of us woking in this industry would have faced or might face a similar situation or lesser or more pedigree.
I think so NASSOM or the IT ministry should come up with some solution to protect employee rights and career and future.
I think so NASSOM or the IT ministry should come up with some solution to protect employee rights and career and future.
Posted by:Amit
- 24 Aug, 2009
148:
similar scenarios exist in the other IT giants as well. Most of the superiors in these companies take their subordinates for granted. All they care about is their own success.
Posted by:Rahul
- 24 Aug, 2009
149:
Good to note that employees feel and went to be heard, I have heard of UNITES Professionals www.unitespro.org, they have been working in this field and I read an article about them in Outlook magazine some time back which had interviews of IT/ITES employees.
Posted by:anonymus
- 24 Aug, 2009
150:
UNITES generally tend to act if the company involved is large enough to get them some publicity. I know people personally who have approached UNITES when harassed by the company, but couldn't get UNITES interested enough to act for them. What he got was a lame response "we will get back to you" I have my own doubts on UNITES. There are thousands of small companies (IT) who are harassing employees similar if not worse! But just that media might not be interested enough to say "Ex-XYZ employee complains about harassment" I hope this news doesn't end up as a just another link over website, with lots of comments. Ram's case should get enough public attention to be taken seriously.
AngryAnonymous Replied to: anonymus
- 25 Aug, 2009
151:
I totally agree with the issue highlighted. Its really getting over our heads now and we should be fighting back. I am working with Tech Mahindra and believe me, they never do these kind of things also the policies are great and the facilities are not that bad. FMG take very quick action over the issues.
I just want to say, we should learn to raise our voice.
The worst part is, WIPRO the so called Giant had recruited all the 9 pointers of my Institute SGGS Nanded in 2008 being the first company in Feb 2008. So far they havent got the joining and the dates given to them are on 29th December 2009. Are they silly or stupid to wait?
They havent given the exams of CAT or CET as first in November last year they promised and then again March they made the fake promise again and now all are struggling as the market is already down.
Its playing with Carriers who are really in need of money as they belong to very poor families who cant afford higher education.
Wipro, dont recruit if you cant give the joining, let the students not see fake dreams that you are never going to make True.
I am happiest at this point that I wasnt selected in Wipro what is relief.
Premji, show a little PREM to the employee or else your ASEEM empire will be ruined soon if a spark burst our in your employees who are driving you tonns of dollars.
I just want to say, we should learn to raise our voice.
The worst part is, WIPRO the so called Giant had recruited all the 9 pointers of my Institute SGGS Nanded in 2008 being the first company in Feb 2008. So far they havent got the joining and the dates given to them are on 29th December 2009. Are they silly or stupid to wait?
They havent given the exams of CAT or CET as first in November last year they promised and then again March they made the fake promise again and now all are struggling as the market is already down.
Its playing with Carriers who are really in need of money as they belong to very poor families who cant afford higher education.
Wipro, dont recruit if you cant give the joining, let the students not see fake dreams that you are never going to make True.
I am happiest at this point that I wasnt selected in Wipro what is relief.
Premji, show a little PREM to the employee or else your ASEEM empire will be ruined soon if a spark burst our in your employees who are driving you tonns of dollars.
Posted by:dj vip mog
- 24 Aug, 2009
152:
Wipro is sacking people or asking them to join Enrich(Half Salary) progrogram because they don't have project due to bad market situation.
1.Just imagine a employee of less merit is getting all the benefits because he's in project.
2.Is this applicable to Top management? Are they getting less salary/bonus?
If we calculate like this- Project's managers (10-15)% salary cut can save two freshers(freshers' salary is also reduced by 10-15%), (10-15)% Salary cut of GM can save two PM,similarly 10-15% of salary cut of Top management can save two GM..then why not over-all salary reduction is happened in wipro(Salary reduction of all by 10-15%)? Why not all should be effected by bad market situation?
Now the situation in wipro is individual getting penalized due to recession, where they doesn't have any fault. Others enjoying the life.. may be they are having less experience or less merit.. or in top management.
1.Just imagine a employee of less merit is getting all the benefits because he's in project.
2.Is this applicable to Top management? Are they getting less salary/bonus?
If we calculate like this- Project's managers (10-15)% salary cut can save two freshers(freshers' salary is also reduced by 10-15%), (10-15)% Salary cut of GM can save two PM,similarly 10-15% of salary cut of Top management can save two GM..then why not over-all salary reduction is happened in wipro(Salary reduction of all by 10-15%)? Why not all should be effected by bad market situation?
Now the situation in wipro is individual getting penalized due to recession, where they doesn't have any fault. Others enjoying the life.. may be they are having less experience or less merit.. or in top management.
Posted by:XYZ
- 24 Aug, 2009
153:
It's true. Wipro is unethical in everysense. It has managers who think they are gods (dogs!). I feel in Wipro people with 1-4 years in wipro really work hard. Once they become red taggers (a shitty concept by Wipro!) they behave like mad dogs harrassing people who are new to Wipro. Wipro will become a better place if they clean up all top management guys and remove the concept of red, green and shit tag concepts! Days are not far ahead, if Wipro becomes a hell to work , if it continues to treat the employees the way it is treating now. Premzi are you listening or busy in counting money?!
Posted by:Ex Wiproite
- 24 Aug, 2009
154:
I agree. Same with Infosys. The managers act like very good people but actually they believe stringly that they are gods.They are real crooks.Read my post in which I was driven mad.
prathap Replied to: Ex Wiproite
- 29 Aug, 2009
155:
your each and every statement is true...
noMattersWho Replied to: Ex Wiproite
- 28 Aug, 2009
156:
I am fully agree with this post. Wipro is really a very unethical place to work and its whole environment is more politicized. I am an exEmployee and the kind of situation, I have faced cannot be narrated in words. I had a fractured leg but still I went to office during holidays by scooter. Thinking those days are like nightmare for me. That time, I was newly married and had really a tough time.
Posted by:Cool Techie
- 24 Aug, 2009
157:
Ya its Realy the true fact that Wipro has laid-off more than 8000 (eight thousand) employees in the last 5 months.
Actually it is a bad manner doing this kind of things. They are harassing people. I know By Laying off only WIPRO has maintained proffit in the Last Year Financial Quater, and they got it more what they expected............
Actually it is a bad manner doing this kind of things. They are harassing people. I know By Laying off only WIPRO has maintained proffit in the Last Year Financial Quater, and they got it more what they expected............
Raghunandan Replied to: Cool Techie
- 24 Aug, 2009
158:
It is hardly a surprise. I am also a former wipro employee and it is really astonishing that a company of such global repute has a work ethic comparable to stalinist rule. It has ruined whatever ability, the talented young people who join them had to offer to the country,exploitation of all kinds is rampant and I strongly believe the underworld will be more understanding towards their employees needs than wipro will ever have. They do not even allow the employee deaths happening in their cabs to be reported in the media, rapes go unreported and these are only two major examples of their misdeeds.I strongly believe that a company with such morals will fall under its own weight eventually.Azim needs to understand that selling oil is a bit different than dealing with human resources and the service they provide.You cant take humans for granted.History will tell you that whoever has done that, has perished.
Posted by:somit biswas
- 24 Aug, 2009
159:
very sad on your part even In this kalyug period such happended to many employee in there life time once .this can be only stopped if some rules and regulation formed by govt to this corporate world .also each organisation should have strong Human resource interference before employee leaves.
advice to all those who read this :give time & Love your family also love yourself ,take care of yourself and your health and work only to meet your given target .
do not love organisation.one day this will not be yours .you and yourfamily will be forever.
advice to all those who read this :give time & Love your family also love yourself ,take care of yourself and your health and work only to meet your given target .
do not love organisation.one day this will not be yours .you and yourfamily will be forever.
praveen sinha Replied to: somit biswas
- 24 Aug, 2009
160:
I was subjected to extreme harassment and was also abducted by Company employees before being sacked from a Government PSU (under the ministry of Defence) after nearly 22 years of service. How about that? Now I will have run around from pillar to post for redressal let alone hire an advocate.
Posted by:Anand
- 24 Aug, 2009
161:
by the way under what law and protection can we intitute a formal complaint. unfortunately, the laws do not have a provision of harrasment in the workplace except for the company's own code of conduct.
Posted by:surender
- 24 Aug, 2009
162:
Hi Guys, Good that most of us who are working in the so called corporates are touched with whatever happened with Ram Manohar. Guys i work with a priciple that treat the way you get treated. love your work and not the company. Do not be loyal to any company just do your work and do not try to over do things just to get a good name and finally you will be disappointed. follow it and you will enjoy your work...
Posted by:Dan
- 24 Aug, 2009
163:
Hi Sital,
Yes, its the situation in all the companies. you know there is no written policy in the companies to harash people. So you can not hold any company accountable. It is the top management who are responsible to ensure proper working environment and prevent harassment are accountable.
There are all laws, but the law is not preventing the harassment. Because the execution is not happening.
The reason is no one has fought it yet. Can a chap who has just got harassed can fight it till the end against powerful corporate lawyers?, NO.
What is the solution? Take the example of SATYAM. One CEO went behind bar. The next thing all corporate fixed their corporate governance.
Who will fight it? We ALL AS ONE (Association). Taking one case of harassment, Where we will win in the court, And accountability can be set on one top management to be punish. Taking it to the court of law And fight it tooth and nail to the end.
Against whom we are fighting? Powerful corporate lawyers. And Political connection. Remember they pay hefty money to many political parties. So don't expect to much favor from politics.
But once we win The thing will change for ever. Everyone will get courage to fight against harassment. And the top management give high priority to prevent harassment. Otherwise they will be behind bars. (Everyone fear punishment)
-Should we FIGHT OR NOT-
We can always wait to see if things getting better automatically by gods grace. Till then spend more painful moments. Anyway, we have only one life.
Choice is YOURS
Yes, its the situation in all the companies. you know there is no written policy in the companies to harash people. So you can not hold any company accountable. It is the top management who are responsible to ensure proper working environment and prevent harassment are accountable.
There are all laws, but the law is not preventing the harassment. Because the execution is not happening.
The reason is no one has fought it yet. Can a chap who has just got harassed can fight it till the end against powerful corporate lawyers?, NO.
What is the solution? Take the example of SATYAM. One CEO went behind bar. The next thing all corporate fixed their corporate governance.
Who will fight it? We ALL AS ONE (Association). Taking one case of harassment, Where we will win in the court, And accountability can be set on one top management to be punish. Taking it to the court of law And fight it tooth and nail to the end.
Against whom we are fighting? Powerful corporate lawyers. And Political connection. Remember they pay hefty money to many political parties. So don't expect to much favor from politics.
But once we win The thing will change for ever. Everyone will get courage to fight against harassment. And the top management give high priority to prevent harassment. Otherwise they will be behind bars. (Everyone fear punishment)
-Should we FIGHT OR NOT-
We can always wait to see if things getting better automatically by gods grace. Till then spend more painful moments. Anyway, we have only one life.
Choice is YOURS
Posted by:Smruti Ranjan
- 24 Aug, 2009
164:
I have read nearly all the posts.Posting a comment is not going to help.If we really want to do something...highlight Ram's issue and the best way will be Media and then only top management people can be questioned.
If someone is having any contact in any good new channel..pls help Ram.Escalate this so that all people can be atleast made aware of.Rest will follow by itself.
If someone is having any contact in any good new channel..pls help Ram.Escalate this so that all people can be atleast made aware of.Rest will follow by itself.
Abhishek Replied to: Smruti Ranjan
- 28 Aug, 2009
165:
It does not matter wheather justice is done or not, but raising voice is our responsibility and we should not back on this.
Do the right thing. Truth knows how to protect itself.
Do the right thing. Truth knows how to protect itself.
BRK Replied to: Smruti Ranjan
- 24 Aug, 2009
167:
It's time "Wipro" was "WipedOut". The entire organization depends on opportunities from the US. So no wonder 8000 employees were laid off. At Credit Suise they are ruling the roost by not allowing any other software and/or resource vendors to apply for business with Credit Suise. t's time for them to go and energies are already under way to ensure that happens. No individual or organization can work in a foreign land by imposing their rules on the country's citizens. This has nothing to do with free enterprise and everything to do with government sponsored monopoly. They are trying to idnetify the US Senator responsible for making Wipro what it is.
Posted by:Opinion
- 23 Aug, 2009
168:
well...a lot has been written about IT, specially Wipro, with all kind of words.
Just few questions to u pals....
Did you ever tried to fight back against the system.....
Why do you think that you should listen to what ur managers / HR is saying.
Just treat them as another employee of the same organization.. they r just doing their job to save their ass.. nothing more than that.
Just fight back.. and see how the table turns around. The only thing that u need to believe in urself.
Just few questions to u pals....
Did you ever tried to fight back against the system.....
Why do you think that you should listen to what ur managers / HR is saying.
Just treat them as another employee of the same organization.. they r just doing their job to save their ass.. nothing more than that.
Just fight back.. and see how the table turns around. The only thing that u need to believe in urself.
Posted by:Daniel
- 23 Aug, 2009
170:
Infosys is best company in this regard, I am currently working as system engineer in INFOSYS, and even after recession company never put any pressure over me.
I am very Happy to work for such an company.
I am very Happy to work for such an company.
Posted by:khetesh
- 23 Aug, 2009
171:
In current situation, IBM is the only company with more employee security and not play games with employee life like WIPRO doing.. I agree Infosys, Oracle and a few companies like IBM are best places to work.. I have been with IBM from past 5 yrs..but I never see these kind of stupid culture or workforce like in Wipro.. please don't attend interviews in WIPRO.. instead try for a non-IT job..unnecessary mental torture in your life..
IBMer Replied to: khetesh
- 28 Aug, 2009
172:
Infy Ex-CEO advised not to love organisation. Love your work
ITO Replied to: khetesh
- 25 Aug, 2009
173:
Guys..not forget some bullshit company where HR and Managers are first but they yell "Employee first"...WElcome to HCL...crap ploicy and crap Bossess
Posted by:Rahul
- 23 Aug, 2009
174:
I have worked in Wipro for nearly 2 and half years.There are no ethics in the company. Sychophancy prevails in the company.Wipro's HR policies are just bullshit. Policies are made in a way to trouble the employees as much as possible. There are many baseless and wierd kind of policies in the company. While working in the Wipro, i tried fighting against these policies. Wrote to HRs, talked to them, talked to the managers, but zero end result. Infact in many cases my matter was escalated to higher management, but i dint leave my stance. Notwithstanding many discussions and arguments nothing happened.
What i observed in the company was managers and HRs always each others side, no matter even if they are wrong. Who gets screwed is none but a common employee.
I know there are many wiproites who have commented on this forum. I want to ask them, have they ever raised their voices against the ever increasing Wipro's bus charges. I had on many instances, but everytime one or the other excuse.
Whatever policies are made in Wipro benefits only the company and its profits. Policies like "there are no shades of grey in the company, its either black or white", "Spirit of Wipro", "Integrity issues" become null and void when they are in favour of the employees.
What i observed in the company was managers and HRs always each others side, no matter even if they are wrong. Who gets screwed is none but a common employee.
I know there are many wiproites who have commented on this forum. I want to ask them, have they ever raised their voices against the ever increasing Wipro's bus charges. I had on many instances, but everytime one or the other excuse.
Whatever policies are made in Wipro benefits only the company and its profits. Policies like "there are no shades of grey in the company, its either black or white", "Spirit of Wipro", "Integrity issues" become null and void when they are in favour of the employees.
Posted by:wiprosucks
- 23 Aug, 2009
175:
One way the company might charge for transport. But for the ones located on Sarjapur Road use public service(BIG 10)!
karthik raja Replied to: wiprosucks
- 24 Aug, 2009
176:
This could be a true incident. due to the recession many company has treated their employee with their ways.
Posted by:abc
- 23 Aug, 2009
177:
I am bit confused here, seems like someone is spamming here.
Okay Guys The Sarangi, Lisa, SMRITI, SURABH are all same person? .. may be Sunil, and Pramod too…
Its all a freak show…
Okay Guys The Sarangi, Lisa, SMRITI, SURABH are all same person? .. may be Sunil, and Pramod too…
Its all a freak show…
Posted by:Venkatesh
- 23 Aug, 2009
178:
I agree all these are either one, or together creating a show.
Hay Sarangi, Lisa , Sourabh, Smruti , Sunil, Prathap whatever your real name take your spiritual crap out of here.
Hay Sarangi, Lisa , Sourabh, Smruti , Sunil, Prathap whatever your real name take your spiritual crap out of here.
Jijo Replied to: Venkatesh
- 23 Aug, 2009
179:
Boss , this is not spiritual scrap as yoiu mentioned...This IS A REAL PROBLEM THAT WE ARE FACING IN OUR LIVES BECAUSE OF IT industry.So please understand our pulse too.I was ok and happy just like others before jopining INfy.
Prathap
Prathap
prathap Replied to: Jijo
- 25 Aug, 2009
180:
Sorry friends for the confusion.
I am different from LISA and the others but i just for name sake used the ID as sarangi.
We had work today and in our spare time we were going thru the comments and many of us had posted true incidents happening here. Please understand that we too are not enjoying while posting bad about our company, who so ever has posted comments has done it here to express his grief and dismay.
Its then that we noticed that this stupid LISA (or whoever) was replying to every other post with his sick comments telling every one to join him with an email ID sarangi.sr@gmail.com . he was putting a pun on others by saying yes we agree with you etc.
This got me worked out and hence i wanted to settle this.
Hope he wont spam here any more.
I am different from LISA and the others but i just for name sake used the ID as sarangi.
We had work today and in our spare time we were going thru the comments and many of us had posted true incidents happening here. Please understand that we too are not enjoying while posting bad about our company, who so ever has posted comments has done it here to express his grief and dismay.
Its then that we noticed that this stupid LISA (or whoever) was replying to every other post with his sick comments telling every one to join him with an email ID sarangi.sr@gmail.com . he was putting a pun on others by saying yes we agree with you etc.
This got me worked out and hence i wanted to settle this.
Hope he wont spam here any more.
sarangi Replied to: Jijo
- 23 Aug, 2009
181:
why don't some senior people come together and start a Cos which runs on cost basis .Running on no profit basis . Surely down the line they will get order as all the IT cos are making a NET PROFIT of 30% which the customer can save . And in future they will think twice to sack employee on filmsy grounds . If this concept clicks , If GOD wishes .....This will ring the dead bell for them. SURE this model will work as all the sacked employee are having enough Exp( but costly resource to Company.. Funny think )
Posted by:jags
- 23 Aug, 2009
182:
Wipro is very famous and notorious for this, same thing happened with me. Thank god I left India in 2002, now well settled USA drive Merc Benz. Anyways I don’t have to live under 55K/PA, drive 15 year old car/ share a car with my neighbour, sleep on comforter on floor or walk in freezing cold for working for India IT company in USA, wait for my neighbour for shopping ride .Indian IT companies are pimps just operate on commission earned by sending people onsite or making people work in offshore for 18 hours a day. All they know is sell for cheap.
I have decided in my life I never work for any Indian IT companies like Wipro , INFY,TCS even if all the Job goes to India. Put Premji behind the bar for screwing up young IT professional career.
I have decided in my life I never work for any Indian IT companies like Wipro , INFY,TCS even if all the Job goes to India. Put Premji behind the bar for screwing up young IT professional career.
Posted by:Unknown
- 23 Aug, 2009
183:
hey man u r selfish... will learn only when u r dash burns..
mots Replied to: Unknown
- 23 Aug, 2009
184:
REMEMBER ALWAYS YOU ARE THE PILLARS OF THE COMPANY, WITHOUT YOU GUYS NO COMPANY NO MANAGER NO CFO NO CEO OR CHAIRMAN, LOVE YOUR JOB & NOT YOUR COMPANY, BE LOYAL TO WHAT YOU ARE DOING. DEDICATE YOURSELF TO YOUR SUCCESS AND NOT HIDE OUT FOR PROBLEMS.
Wishing you all a very successful career....
Wishing you all a very successful career....
Posted by:Sunil
- 23 Aug, 2009
185:
Dear All,
I don't want to more it longer. Very Short Msg but read it. You all guys know to track your credit record/ history the CIBIL is there wherein Banks will approach this centre to inquire about your before they could process your loan, credit Card and other facilities by financial institutions. Similarly NASSCOM is an org. which has lot of sub folder information containing about each of the member co. & these co. have right to provide any information about their employees, like BLACK LISTING THEM ETC. We all are just sleeping still. We are very active in speaking but nothing shown in action. Just pls don't use rotten words in the blog. If you guys once black listed once here in these org. by doing real mistake or getting in trap if you become a listed one then you can't do anything. Cos will check first their they will not ask you, FYI, this will be like pre-employment check without your knowledge. Hope all you guys go through your documentations when your joining formalities goes. You will have to sign a paper in which it will be said, you will give your employer to check your back status rights(remember it can be done anytime no time is specifically said when can when should not, hence beware of it. HRDs just do it normally with the employees previous employers or references given. As I've already mention these above said org. not in control of normal lay man's to fight for justice. If you want to file a case also in labor court it will take time and even if you will no employer will prefer to take you IN, coz you have created some negative history in your track pulling your employer or Xemployer to the court. No Companys would like to take a chance for this. Brothers & Sisters, I'm a Sr. Manager - HR working for a well built MNC, Im really pity to those who are easily getting trapped this kind of management's wicked play. At the end of the day no one of us can be there without each other. Please understand the situation, tomorrow you might be the one in the trap...so don't ignore if any good things are asked to do. You might think being a HR professional why this guy is guide you to form a organisation. Just simple, you alone cannot fight for justice, you need to have your fellow people to hold you strong to fight against a ORGANIZATION, remember, organisation is big, before they could hire you they will have well set up policies, with a well experienced nodal officer/lawyer to fight for this kind of issues. Unless you have a strong back hold you will not be able to do anything. Being a HR guy many times Ive come across people take offer and don't join or abscond. Tell what should I've to do, though I've a huge Network to black list or find where the person is work and give my feedback to his employer I just ignore coz if not today he will get butt burned tomorrow but it will be late for him to be realized. Sorry, if my words are harsh, here.... as Lisa said, Id strongly recommend you guys to form a ALL INDIA UNION for IT, ITES & Non IT employee welfare. Just think guys our great men are have their max part of contribution in developed countries standing status. If you guys can work hard in your home country without going out and fight for justice and be loyal... it will not take years for things change... but remember everyone should work sincerely and hard to this goal only then you can achieve with no long time span. I wish all the best to Lisa to succeed in bringing up this Union with a very strong team so that it will also provide just for employers and employees as a single point of contact to bring in truth to LIGHT. Thanks ladies and gentleman who have understood my communication, one last suggestion, those who have not understood this what I've told please read this again and again atleast 25 to 30 times you will understand the message. Because reading again and again will send message to your brain again to understand that particular work/matter to understand it more INDEPTH. Thanks
Wishing you all a very successful career and justice for everything.
Sunil
I don't want to more it longer. Very Short Msg but read it. You all guys know to track your credit record/ history the CIBIL is there wherein Banks will approach this centre to inquire about your before they could process your loan, credit Card and other facilities by financial institutions. Similarly NASSCOM is an org. which has lot of sub folder information containing about each of the member co. & these co. have right to provide any information about their employees, like BLACK LISTING THEM ETC. We all are just sleeping still. We are very active in speaking but nothing shown in action. Just pls don't use rotten words in the blog. If you guys once black listed once here in these org. by doing real mistake or getting in trap if you become a listed one then you can't do anything. Cos will check first their they will not ask you, FYI, this will be like pre-employment check without your knowledge. Hope all you guys go through your documentations when your joining formalities goes. You will have to sign a paper in which it will be said, you will give your employer to check your back status rights(remember it can be done anytime no time is specifically said when can when should not, hence beware of it. HRDs just do it normally with the employees previous employers or references given. As I've already mention these above said org. not in control of normal lay man's to fight for justice. If you want to file a case also in labor court it will take time and even if you will no employer will prefer to take you IN, coz you have created some negative history in your track pulling your employer or Xemployer to the court. No Companys would like to take a chance for this. Brothers & Sisters, I'm a Sr. Manager - HR working for a well built MNC, Im really pity to those who are easily getting trapped this kind of management's wicked play. At the end of the day no one of us can be there without each other. Please understand the situation, tomorrow you might be the one in the trap...so don't ignore if any good things are asked to do. You might think being a HR professional why this guy is guide you to form a organisation. Just simple, you alone cannot fight for justice, you need to have your fellow people to hold you strong to fight against a ORGANIZATION, remember, organisation is big, before they could hire you they will have well set up policies, with a well experienced nodal officer/lawyer to fight for this kind of issues. Unless you have a strong back hold you will not be able to do anything. Being a HR guy many times Ive come across people take offer and don't join or abscond. Tell what should I've to do, though I've a huge Network to black list or find where the person is work and give my feedback to his employer I just ignore coz if not today he will get butt burned tomorrow but it will be late for him to be realized. Sorry, if my words are harsh, here.... as Lisa said, Id strongly recommend you guys to form a ALL INDIA UNION for IT, ITES & Non IT employee welfare. Just think guys our great men are have their max part of contribution in developed countries standing status. If you guys can work hard in your home country without going out and fight for justice and be loyal... it will not take years for things change... but remember everyone should work sincerely and hard to this goal only then you can achieve with no long time span. I wish all the best to Lisa to succeed in bringing up this Union with a very strong team so that it will also provide just for employers and employees as a single point of contact to bring in truth to LIGHT. Thanks ladies and gentleman who have understood my communication, one last suggestion, those who have not understood this what I've told please read this again and again atleast 25 to 30 times you will understand the message. Because reading again and again will send message to your brain again to understand that particular work/matter to understand it more INDEPTH. Thanks
Wishing you all a very successful career and justice for everything.
Sunil
Posted by:Sunil
- 23 Aug, 2009
186:
Hi
This is really sad to hear how people have been fired. The companies should never forget that Workforce/Employees are their biggest assets and these kind of firings may put loyality of employees down, that results in downfall of productivity.
This is really sad to hear how people have been fired. The companies should never forget that Workforce/Employees are their biggest assets and these kind of firings may put loyality of employees down, that results in downfall of productivity.
Posted by:B.Ramakrishna
- 23 Aug, 2009
187:
HI guys,
This harassment is nothing new for me. If u hear the story of my harrassment u will get tears in your eyes. I was sacked from Infosys Bangalore in 2004 May .Along with the sacking the Project Manager also cast a magic spell on me(he knows a famous black magic technique called kshudhram) after calling me to his cabin. The HAPPY news is that I am still under this Black Magic Spell and the Project Manager(of Banking Business Unit) is still enjoying his life in the U.S. The funniest thing is I cant even go to the police as there is no legal validity for Black Magic guys I am so lucky now I have no other choice than committing suicide because this spell that is cast on me is so unbearable I can assure u that I am the saddest person in the whole world. Can u belive it THIS IS EXTREME HARASSMENT in a company that boasts to be the most employee friendly At least this employee who has been harassed does nt have to die
This harassment is nothing new for me. If u hear the story of my harrassment u will get tears in your eyes. I was sacked from Infosys Bangalore in 2004 May .Along with the sacking the Project Manager also cast a magic spell on me(he knows a famous black magic technique called kshudhram) after calling me to his cabin. The HAPPY news is that I am still under this Black Magic Spell and the Project Manager(of Banking Business Unit) is still enjoying his life in the U.S. The funniest thing is I cant even go to the police as there is no legal validity for Black Magic guys I am so lucky now I have no other choice than committing suicide because this spell that is cast on me is so unbearable I can assure u that I am the saddest person in the whole world. Can u belive it THIS IS EXTREME HARASSMENT in a company that boasts to be the most employee friendly At least this employee who has been harassed does nt have to die
Posted by:prathap chandran
- 23 Aug, 2009
188:
I know that the Managers are harassing Engineers and asking them to quit. Even if you are working hard they would try to sack, because they want their job to be safe. There should be a review committe which will deal with such issues. Female employees threatning male employees in the name of sexual harassment has become very common in Corporate world now. Those who are good for nothing will remain in the company because they are dear to bosses. Please kill this "BOSS is GOD" and he is alway right culture and recognize some one by their talent. Jago India Jago
Posted by:Sanjeev
- 23 Aug, 2009
189:
Can i get support to lodge a complaint in Bangalore? Becoz even the police are not beli9eving what I was saying. So I need some people to come with me and make the police belive that I am being tortured
prathap Replied to: Sanjeev
- 29 Aug, 2009
190:
I FULLY agree with u Sanjeev. The managers are prepared to do anything(including kill the employees to defend their job)Check my post ..I am about to die because of a manager:(
prathap Replied to: Sanjeev
- 23 Aug, 2009
191:
Im quite surprised to know that WIPRO is an unethical organisation.I had an oppty to join them twice in my 10 years career and fortunately I did not join them as i had better opptys.Feels sad when some one like is getting exploited and we cannot do anything about it. The management should realise that even once even they were team members and grew upto where they are now and understand the importance of the teams at the bottom layer.
We can safely call these junkies BOBS ( Bunch of Bastards).
We can safely call these junkies BOBS ( Bunch of Bastards).
Posted by:Vi cky
- 23 Aug, 2009
192:
Hi, these things happened with most of employee of indian IT companies. It really very shame for us.
Posted by:Bhanu Pratap
- 23 Aug, 2009
193:
Most Indian IT companies work this way, and ive seen this first hand. A lot of people cannot handle the authority of management position and abuse it. Professionalism is unheard of in a lot of cases. The manager-employee relationship reminds me of a teacher-student relationship in school. Sucks.
Posted by:sharat
- 23 Aug, 2009
194:
Mr KRISHNA KUMAR
The citizens of India are not slaves. All IT companies are operatin in this country and has to follow the roule of the land. In the name of profit exploitation is an very old practice. In addition, the consequences of that can be terrifying for top management.
Employment lay has some strict rules. Any company in violation to that can be subjected to legal action.
In which authority are you talking? Are you representing any particular Organization here. In addition, what post are you holding? Is it your Organizations policy that you are talking about OR these are your personal opinions?
Whatever the incident that has been narrated is Extermly unethical. And clear violation of the law of the land. And a clear case of exploitation.
This fight is in open already and I am taking this matter personally for the benefit of entire IT and ITES employees of India. My Name is Smruti Ranjan Sarangi, and email ID is sarangi.sr@gmail.com.
I hope you will disclose your identity.
Regards
The citizens of India are not slaves. All IT companies are operatin in this country and has to follow the roule of the land. In the name of profit exploitation is an very old practice. In addition, the consequences of that can be terrifying for top management.
Employment lay has some strict rules. Any company in violation to that can be subjected to legal action.
In which authority are you talking? Are you representing any particular Organization here. In addition, what post are you holding? Is it your Organizations policy that you are talking about OR these are your personal opinions?
Whatever the incident that has been narrated is Extermly unethical. And clear violation of the law of the land. And a clear case of exploitation.
This fight is in open already and I am taking this matter personally for the benefit of entire IT and ITES employees of India. My Name is Smruti Ranjan Sarangi, and email ID is sarangi.sr@gmail.com.
I hope you will disclose your identity.
Regards
Posted by:Mr Smruti
- 23 Aug, 2009
195:
I know of many Wipro employees both ex. & current who have and having suffering from bad and worth management profiles...one of my good friend had to leave wipro after working with them for four year she is suffering from severe migrani due to extermely bad treatment by her project management.
Mr. Azim Premji should stop his greed of earning billions of $ and look after the welfare of his staff. no wonder he is loosing money on his other investments like Subhiksha... Wake up Premji and let Prem (love) flow in your company. treat your human resources better or else you will lose your worth
Mr. Azim Premji should stop his greed of earning billions of $ and look after the welfare of his staff. no wonder he is loosing money on his other investments like Subhiksha... Wake up Premji and let Prem (love) flow in your company. treat your human resources better or else you will lose your worth
Posted by:Shukanto Sengupta
- 23 Aug, 2009
196:
Wipro done wrong with there employees, Even all the companies are treating like this. One Samsung Employee (Ranchi Branch)also commit sucide as their Seniors pressurised him. God knows when it will stop,
Posted by:KAMAL
- 22 Aug, 2009
197:
Yes I agree with Ram Manohar, wipro is worst company and they always do that.Even though you have server for more than 4 yrs they always do that.pls dont join wipro and wipro should come to roads very soon.wipro should be blacklisted as all are frauds.
Posted by:anonymous
- 22 Aug, 2009
198:
Yes I agree, all Senior management of wipro are frauds and should be thrown out of company and wipro should be blacklisted and should come to roads very soon.
anonymous Replied to: anonymous
- 22 Aug, 2009
199:
Well it is not a surprise at all that this happened. Wipro is dominated by some arrogant women who think they are great and the top management bow down to them you know why. Well i am also a fateful guy of a similar incident but not from Wipro i worked there for 2 years day in and day out they ensured i worked there even when the entire company was having a blast at megha bowl made sure i man the entire peration i had pneumonia and still they made me work i was on the verges of death and when the doctors who visited the campus after i fell unconscious asked the management to shift me to a hospital immediately and the worst after the admitted that was the last they dint even bother to turn back and see and nor did they provide me a medical insurance i had to bare the entire expense and finally when i was back they harrassed me of all nonsense and also deducted my salary and finally one day asked me to quit and my 4 months salary pending and a Rs 1,00,000 which is gone in the winds. Thanks to Ram Manohar G that he did not go through this and now i am in a state that i will never get a job anymore coz every time a company enquires about me the HR has different stories to say things like i stole a computer and left, i used to steel petrol from bikes so they sacked me and things like that i have a valid releaving letter and also a good track record with the peers. I was heading the entire sales, retention and custmer service.... Simple just do not be too lyal to any bloody company
Posted by:God
- 22 Aug, 2009
200:
Even one of my friend in Ness Technologies working at Hyderabad region has been terminated without any prior information i.e within 20 minutes without any reason.She was forced to leave the company.Now that person on roads.As she is the only earning person of her family.No notice nothing.After working for more than a year this is reward she got from the company.why Indian govt nor any leaders take nay action to control such a cruel activites.Ness has no right to play with her emotions.She is really struggling a lot.All are dependents on her...Even Ness known for its policies but they never implement anything juat imagine withing 20 minutes thye sacked a female employee wihtout any courtesy..no value at all for the employess working in Ness Tecnologies at Hyderabad centre....Really very worst situation.even now she did,nt came out from that shock she is numbless after that incident.Her manager treated her like a Donkey not like a human being..Tourched her like anything.All these days she really struggled in that company.Because of her financial diffulties she patiently managed everyhting.Beause her family depends on her only.Finally she was for force to resign within 20 minutes no justice at all
Posted by:Anonymous
- 22 Aug, 2009
201:
I am giving an idea to ex-employees who got hurt because of this company openup blogs and explore your bad experiences that you have got in wipro.
Every individual of our country should know about this company.Every one should throw shit on wipro.
Every individual of our country should know about this company.Every one should throw shit on wipro.
Posted by:Anonymous
- 22 Aug, 2009
202:
sorry morals like we should not hurt others and take care of others
Posted by:Anonymous
- 22 Aug, 2009
203:
Wipro is a worst company,if our Indian GOVT. did not take any action then our nation fame will be ruined.Wipro should follow some morals like INFOSYS AND SATYAM because they will do their business very genuinely and they explain to media about the happenings.But this worst wipro doesn't follow any rules and regulations.wipro should be banned,because the products prepared by them are also worst.
Azim Premji is also a fraud he done business upto now.He purchased subhiksha and blaming them that they did't told about their losses.Before purchasing any product we will see the pros and cons of a product.This gives us info that Azim premji is not having any knowledge about life and doesn't care for the people.If any person met with an accident we will help him a lot even he is a stranger,but in wipro it is quiet opposite.They laid off sorry harrased and made them to resign about 8000 people.
So,My sincere request to Govt. of india is dismiss wipro from our country.Then half of our country will develop.By seeing this company other companies will learn morals that we should spoil and hurt others.
Becareful freshers don't risk to join wipro.
Azim Premji is also a fraud he done business upto now.He purchased subhiksha and blaming them that they did't told about their losses.Before purchasing any product we will see the pros and cons of a product.This gives us info that Azim premji is not having any knowledge about life and doesn't care for the people.If any person met with an accident we will help him a lot even he is a stranger,but in wipro it is quiet opposite.They laid off sorry harrased and made them to resign about 8000 people.
So,My sincere request to Govt. of india is dismiss wipro from our country.Then half of our country will develop.By seeing this company other companies will learn morals that we should spoil and hurt others.
Becareful freshers don't risk to join wipro.
Posted by:Anonymous
- 22 Aug, 2009
204:
All indian IT Companies should be made to sign a bond with Govt of India that they will take care of employment of an each employee and will not fire them .also they will recruit only those number of employee that are required by them .This should be made mandatory for all employers to work in india and do the business.TCS is very bad company .They fire employee with no reason. one of my friend was asked to resign he was with TCS for 4 yrs now his father has bypass surgery and he need financial support. After paying for Health insurance for 4 yrs when he need financial support TCS is doing such thing.but HR doesnt listem to him and asked him to resign.In IT TCS is known for polcies But all that are bullshit.they give only one week to employee
Posted by:anonymous
- 22 Aug, 2009
205:
'Always love your job but never fall in with company b'coz u don't know when company will stops loving you' so no problem when ever you are working on any project calculate your time of work 45 hrs in a week and that's all if work done for more then 45 rhs.collect additional amount for all those time. and if any colleague working more then 45 hrs. in a week without any work requirement then you people decide what to do with that guy. Top management people are not doing any work and getting good salaries so they are bound to remove associates to prove that they are thinking about company and saving company's revenue.
Posted by:Employee team
- 22 Aug, 2009
206:
Hi,I work in a non-IT MNC,but service industry,where a more or less similar exchangeable manpower system works.But of course with a 54 hr week(minimum and max is 72!).No extra payment anytime when we are called "to lend a helping hand".Rot!Always the reason given is there is less manpower and everyone is doing it,need more revenue turnover,cost control,others are waiting in the line if you dont want the job,etc.But Sr. Branch Manager is very different.He says the same thing as u've said above.He himself says having a boss like him who cares for everyone,from the washer boy,to the manager below him's welfare and career growth is very rare.Really chewable thoughts you have written.
Tanuja Replied to: Employee team
- 24 Aug, 2009
207:
Hi..I m totally Agree with this.. i m also working in non IT field but the thing is we were working more then 10 hours in a day. its all for recession. and also as i heard its all common timing for accounts guys. by god grace we got 4.5 per cent hike on our basic.
Regrds,
Bhat.
Regrds,
Bhat.
Bhat Replied to: Tanuja
- 29 Aug, 2009
208:
Will Mr Azim H.Premji apply his thoughts towards this employee issue and take necessary action? I believe that he will realize that such issues can spoil the hard work given by his Father and himself to bring this company up.
Posted by:Anony
- 22 Aug, 2009
209:
Wipro is an idiot Company,where the company doesn't have any product they ill go back of other MNC for service project and employee is treated like an animal.
Posted by:Gautham
- 22 Aug, 2009
210:
Let's face it from a different perspective: Layoffs are taboo in India. Although our economy is busy aping the west, as far as employee practices go, employers DONOT want to recruit people who are laid off!
The immediate implication, therefore, is that it appears to be more 'preferable' to say that the employee quit, rather than saying that he was fired. And the reason is that our market is a capitalist market (a buyer's market) as far as HR goes. So, the supply is high enough to ensure that 'sacked' employees remain an outlier.
In the US, laying off is common. In Europe, the taboo is similar to what it is in India. So, in the US, getting a job thereafter is not a big issue. In Europe, however, the choices are limited. In India, the choices are even more limited.
I agree that companies should not do that. But, the capitalist wave that is coming into India needs us to face certain realities... One of which is the fact that such companies traditionally, have promoted the 'hire and fire' model. So, this is going to increase in the coming years. As individuals, we need to ensure that this phenomenon should not damage our ambitions and development.
Having a union is probably not going to help soon. The main reason is that unions are lagging behind, in their development, in the IT sector. So, with this scenario, it will be difficult to really 'catch-up'. But eventually, it would. The advantage of the union would be a negotiated solution that is more 'professionally' implemented. Typically, people who would be fired, would be on a list that is cleared by the union. What next? The reality at the individual would remain.
Corporate malpractices like the signing of blank sheets, is a criminal offense. And criminal offenses must not go unpunished (whichever the party is). A developed union could work well to avoid such situations. But, like I said, it is yet to develop. As of now, employees facing this type of situations must come forward and protest. They need to use the media and, we readers must be conscious about this when we recruit next time. So that, we do not make a false assessment of the candidates concerned.
The immediate implication, therefore, is that it appears to be more 'preferable' to say that the employee quit, rather than saying that he was fired. And the reason is that our market is a capitalist market (a buyer's market) as far as HR goes. So, the supply is high enough to ensure that 'sacked' employees remain an outlier.
In the US, laying off is common. In Europe, the taboo is similar to what it is in India. So, in the US, getting a job thereafter is not a big issue. In Europe, however, the choices are limited. In India, the choices are even more limited.
I agree that companies should not do that. But, the capitalist wave that is coming into India needs us to face certain realities... One of which is the fact that such companies traditionally, have promoted the 'hire and fire' model. So, this is going to increase in the coming years. As individuals, we need to ensure that this phenomenon should not damage our ambitions and development.
Having a union is probably not going to help soon. The main reason is that unions are lagging behind, in their development, in the IT sector. So, with this scenario, it will be difficult to really 'catch-up'. But eventually, it would. The advantage of the union would be a negotiated solution that is more 'professionally' implemented. Typically, people who would be fired, would be on a list that is cleared by the union. What next? The reality at the individual would remain.
Corporate malpractices like the signing of blank sheets, is a criminal offense. And criminal offenses must not go unpunished (whichever the party is). A developed union could work well to avoid such situations. But, like I said, it is yet to develop. As of now, employees facing this type of situations must come forward and protest. They need to use the media and, we readers must be conscious about this when we recruit next time. So that, we do not make a false assessment of the candidates concerned.
Posted by:Nikhil Gurjar
- 22 Aug, 2009
211:
this is so true .... i have seen this, believe me, they have no care for employee. If you dont believe, google the term "enrich programme wipro " and then you will know it. One thing is for sure.....its cutting its own legs and making the grave ready ..........I guess Azim bhai doesnt know all this, he has to deal only with money...........
God please help those guys ....
God please help those guys ....
Posted by:chinmay
- 22 Aug, 2009
212:
The same kind of incident happend with Cognizant, Bangalore. Instead of removing guys in bulk, the HR persons are daily targeting 10-12 persons so that their the company name won't appear in laying off. They are making pressure to employees for quitting company without any reason. When asking for reason they are informing "Company is in very bad situation and not having further projects". While in market they are creating impression that we had never laid off any employee & saying that still we are recruiting.
Posted by:Pankaj
- 22 Aug, 2009
213:
wipro may be one of the worst companies, tech mahindra is no far behind , they have sacked hundreds of employees and a similiar incident has happened to me , they asked me not to come to office and they are not settling my dues, i do not know what to do and how to approach law about it, i require some help in this regards. If this happens to a 20 year experienced pro i do not knwo the the plight of others
Posted by:kjr1
- 22 Aug, 2009
214:
IT COMPANIES ARE NOT HERE FOR CHARITY. IN THE PRESENT TIMES OF RECESSION IT IS QUITE OBVIOUS THAT THEY WILL IMPLEMENT SOME STRICTNESS. THE SITUATION HAS FORCED THEM TO SACK SO MANY EMPLOYEES AND TAKE OTHER HARSH STEPS. THE HR PERSONNEL ARE UNDER TREMENDOUS PRESSURE.IT IS VERY SAD TO KNOW WHAT EVER HAS HAPPENED TO MR.Ram Manohar G. BUT THIS MAY BE SOME SPECIAL CASE. IT COMPANIES HAVE PROVIDED EMPLOYMENT TO SO MANY PEOPLE, EVER THOUGHT HOW MANY OF THEM DO THEIR DUTY SINCERELY. UNDER PERFORMERS WILL HAVE TO SEE THE EXIT DOORS IN THE PRESENT SITUATION. THE COMPANY WON'T PAY HIGH SALARIES TO THE UNDER PERFORMERS. YOU HAVE TO BE THE BEST AND SHOULD JUSTIFY YOUR POSITION AND SALARY. YOU HAVE TO BE A WORTHY ASSET FOR THE COMPANY OR ELSE EXIT DOORS ARE WIDE OPEN FOR YOU.
I AM ALSO A RECRUIT OF WIPRO TECHNOLOGIES AND WAS HURT TO SEE THE COMMENTS POSTED HERE. I HAVE MY SINIORS WORKING IN THE COMPANY WHO HAVE HAD GOOD EXPERIENCE WORKING IN THE COMPANY. EVEN IN THE TIME OF RECESSION ONE OF MY SENIOR, WHO JOINED LAST YEAR, GRADUATION YEAR 2008, FROM AN NIT, SAID HE HAD A SATISFACTORY EXPERIENCE THERE. THE EXPERIENCE WAS COMPARABLE TO ANY OF THE OTHER IT COMPANIES. HE HAD TO FACE A TOUGH TIME INITIALLY BUT NOW HE GOT A PROJECT AND IS HAPPILY WORKING ON IT. WE SHOULD NOT FORGET WIPRO IS INDIA'S 3RD LARGEST MNC.
DO YOUR DUTY TRULY AND THEN YOU WILL DEFINITELY FIND YOUR SELF IN A GOOD POSITION. AND REMEMBER YOU WON'T BE PAID FOR DOING NOTHING.
I AM ALSO A RECRUIT OF WIPRO TECHNOLOGIES AND WAS HURT TO SEE THE COMMENTS POSTED HERE. I HAVE MY SINIORS WORKING IN THE COMPANY WHO HAVE HAD GOOD EXPERIENCE WORKING IN THE COMPANY. EVEN IN THE TIME OF RECESSION ONE OF MY SENIOR, WHO JOINED LAST YEAR, GRADUATION YEAR 2008, FROM AN NIT, SAID HE HAD A SATISFACTORY EXPERIENCE THERE. THE EXPERIENCE WAS COMPARABLE TO ANY OF THE OTHER IT COMPANIES. HE HAD TO FACE A TOUGH TIME INITIALLY BUT NOW HE GOT A PROJECT AND IS HAPPILY WORKING ON IT. WE SHOULD NOT FORGET WIPRO IS INDIA'S 3RD LARGEST MNC.
DO YOUR DUTY TRULY AND THEN YOU WILL DEFINITELY FIND YOUR SELF IN A GOOD POSITION. AND REMEMBER YOU WON'T BE PAID FOR DOING NOTHING.
KRISHNA KUMAR Replied to: kjr1
- 22 Aug, 2009
215:
Also during my tenure in WIpro, i have seen people getting paid for doing nothing.
wiprosucks Replied to: KRISHNA KUMAR
- 23 Aug, 2009
216:
Many of the people who have posted their comments are from Wipro and they know what is the true face of Wipro. Being the 3rd largest IT company, doesn't prove anything. I have seen how managers flatter the clients. In Wipro, to become a manager and bring business, person has to be a sychophant, apart from being skilled. Isn't it the slogan of Wipro that "Client is god, no matter if it is wrong." I was told this on my 1st day in Wipro. Wipro sells its ethics in exchange of money.
wiprosucks Replied to: KRISHNA KUMAR
- 23 Aug, 2009
217:
Have you consulted the lawyer nearest to your home?
kjr1 I pity you. With 20 yrs exp you can’t stand for your rights? That’s strange:(
Are you married do you have children?
kjr1 I pity you. With 20 yrs exp you can’t stand for your rights? That’s strange:(
Are you married do you have children?
Lisa Replied to: kjr1
- 22 Aug, 2009
218:
hi Lisa, I am trying for a job and I have shown the period as a gap as independent consulting, Yes I am married , the sole earning member of the family and having two children, I have not gone to any lawyer as the Tech M guys forced me to write one resignation letter and took my I card,
Since I am in the process of getting a job, I have been writing mails to them but to no avail.
I do not knwo how to proceed further.
Since I am in the process of getting a job, I have been writing mails to them but to no avail.
I do not knwo how to proceed further.
kjr1 Replied to: Lisa
- 24 Aug, 2009
220:
Out of 15 years I have worked half the time in manufacturing and half in IT. I have seen similar things happening in manufacturing after 1996 recession. The things has not changed much till date. I have seen senior managers using abusive language for their subordinates but because manufacturing is saturated sector and once you are out very less chances of re-employment. They take advantages. The IT is also going through the same phase recesion and then saturation. The good days in the sector are almost over. Businesses all over the world are run for busisness. Profit is the foremost and sole purpose. The humanity angle which people has seen in IT for some years is all deceiving. In manpower crisis period companies put a deceiving mask of good humanae, so that they can attract people. When people become in abundance, they put off the mask and show the real face, which you see now. As the IT sector reaches to it's maturity, all big Lalas will have agreement not to hire from one anothr's company. This will make changing job tougher and better chance for employers to take advantage. There is companies worse than wipro like Sapient. They will fire people and immediately go for hiring. This is totally against law. But in this country and elsewhere money matters and these industrialists have money and they buy governments. If anyone of you find time just go through a book called " Rich dad and the poor dad". This explains the whole evil designs of the business people and how a common citizen's life is used by these people. Many of seems to be either youngsters or have not seen manufacturing sector. Harrassment is the fact of life there for years. During 1990-94 companies used to look heaven but turned into hell by 1996 till date. The only solution is the union. IT people must have union. Only this can give them power to offset money effect.
Posted by:Aryan
- 22 Aug, 2009
221:
What Lisa,you seems to do a perfect job of devil's advocate?I'm really amazed to see extreme responses specially by Mr Ram throwing Acid n all.Please mind it this forum is to express your views not your hatred.
Posted by:shubs
- 22 Aug, 2009
222:
I too faced problem like rejecting after being selected & given the joining date in Wipro Chennai, when I called up HR people they told your profile is not matching my parents felt very bad this is the worst case I have met in Life the HR people are fit for nothing especially lady HR. They come only to have fun & take maternity leaves after some days.
Posted by:vikas
- 22 Aug, 2009
223:
All these HR people are useless.They have no other job other than removing few & recruting new.They are least concerned about the employee welfare in real terms.Under the name of performance Management which is always subjective,they tries to fool the management to save their jobs.Removing an employee under the name recession,meltdown,ect is all bullsheet as all these compenies are making hefty profits & the employee cost is only a merge percentage of their total turnover and hardly affect their profits.This is a bad practice started by Indian companies recently taken from the west without adopting the good like social security,medical care,ect.Will they remove their old father & mother just bacause they are not productive & could not earn anymore.
Remember,the people who are talking about the performance,age,output also have to face the same problem when they bacame 45/50+.Atleast the situation today is better but is going to be worst in near future which these new bread of Management doesn't understand.They should understand that experience counts in the time of trouble.
Remember,the people who are talking about the performance,age,output also have to face the same problem when they bacame 45/50+.Atleast the situation today is better but is going to be worst in near future which these new bread of Management doesn't understand.They should understand that experience counts in the time of trouble.
Vasant Replied to: vikas
- 22 Aug, 2009
224:
This is mere bullshit, its crystal clear that the employee couldnt accept the reality , it's like not beleiving that u r laid off & u wanna put the blaim on such good company who cares for their employees. M damn sure this guy doesnt understands the importance of proffessionalism or else he wouldnt have disclosed name of Wipro employees in public. Dude plz accept the reality or else this is what u deserve
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Posted by:Harry
- 22 Aug, 2009
225:
Gud work Harry !
Keep doing this,and one day azim premji might promote u!
This is how u must have got into wipro ir watever ur company is ..by licking asses. : )
Keep doing this,and one day azim premji might promote u!
This is how u must have got into wipro ir watever ur company is ..by licking asses. : )
utsav Replied to: Harry
- 22 Aug, 2009
226:
Is harry azim's mother.....
did u *uck her
did u *uck her
Anonymous Replied to: Harry
- 22 Aug, 2009
227:
My dear Wipro guys in this recession time,this is too much.Just try to understand the situations of employees also.Guys if you are supporting and promoting HR for these kind of stupid things,remember, your Company's image will lose.
Posted by:Raj
- 22 Aug, 2009
228:
There is nothing to loose for WIPRO now as they have already lost their employee's trust.
I agree to another members comment that since WIPRO is loosing the employee's trust it will soon Fall big time.
I agree to another members comment that since WIPRO is loosing the employee's trust it will soon Fall big time.
Naren Replied to: Raj
- 28 Aug, 2009
229:
The inhuman acts cannot be brushed up in the name of professionalism. Let us understand that the companies are operating in this country and using the resource of this country. They have to abide by the rule of the land and have to operate within the boundary of this. No company can operate or make profit by exploiting the citizen of a country for profit. No one has right to exploit even one employ to make profit. Who is making profit if an employ is harashed?
In the rat race, we all have forgotten what acceptable behavior is. And we have forgotten how to teach that to a big organization. Assuming that we are too small to stand up.
In the rat race, we all have forgotten what acceptable behavior is. And we have forgotten how to teach that to a big organization. Assuming that we are too small to stand up.
Mr. Smruti Replied to: Raj
- 22 Aug, 2009
230:
To all employees, please behave professionally not as KG childrens. Shame on u...
Posted by:adithya
- 22 Aug, 2009
231:
I think most of WIPRO Management will be busy answering the forums using fake names.
WIPRO => Wish I Promote Rural Orthodox practices
WIPRO => Wish I Promote Rural Orthodox practices
Animesh Replied to: adithya
- 22 Aug, 2009
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Seniors have to give good direction to juniors to lead good life but in this way...The seniors have to resign...
adithya Replied to: adithya
- 22 Aug, 2009
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please read the comment by Ram Narayan. He says lot of truth.
suresh balachandra Replied to: adithya
- 22 Aug, 2009
235:
Every word spoken by the guy sounds true. Since I being Wiproite know all that. Its almost a daily activity in Wipro. The moment a person comes in free pool, they hand over Enrich letter to him/her. This sound like Wipro is only thinking to work on contracting and no permanent employment. If Wipro management is not able to get the person on project, it meand Wipro hasn't got any job to do, it means Wipro will soon be ending its story in the IT market. There is no appreciation of the person's effort being put on last assignment and billability period. There is no value to loyality by staying and working the same company.
Azimji need to think that, this time they are touching a very sensitive issue of the people who work in the company, their finance, their personal life. No one would wait to get paid in 1/2 salary and continue in Wipro. This person would also not come back in future.
I think, its a advice to all those who are thinking to get a job in Wipro that, please search somewhere else, since after coming here you will have to face other challenges which are worst that searching a job.
Thanks.
Azimji need to think that, this time they are touching a very sensitive issue of the people who work in the company, their finance, their personal life. No one would wait to get paid in 1/2 salary and continue in Wipro. This person would also not come back in future.
I think, its a advice to all those who are thinking to get a job in Wipro that, please search somewhere else, since after coming here you will have to face other challenges which are worst that searching a job.
Thanks.
Posted by:Anonymous
- 22 Aug, 2009
236:
I am writing down the truth on what happened at Wipro. Two events propelled wipro to this. Not that wipro was better or an company with ethics before these events. The first event was the economic turmoil and global recession that started last year. The second event was when the Obama administration started regulation of aliens employed by US companies, visa regulations and taxes for companies outsourcing jobs. Similar events happened in UK to some degree as well. Now the result of the first event the economic recession was many US comapanies who were outsourcing to Wipro cut down lot of projects, downsized existing teams etc. Due to which Wipro lost revenue, plus found lot of people on the bench hence led to huge profit margin and operation margin pressure. In order to correct this they started a campaign of laying off people in the name of NI etc. They started schemes like "Rejoice" and Rejevunate etc to cut down salary and employee benefits etc. These were imposed as hard objectives on individual unit HR's who started the draconian campaign of making employee's self resign etc to avoid making it look like lay-offs. As they have a bad reflection on companies image. Due to the second event wipro wanted to appease the US goverment, hence it suddenly started a campaign of diversity at US and Europe to show that they were not only bringing people from India, but are recuriting local foreign employee's as well. Since unlike Indians whom they dont pay well at onsite if he is not at a senior level. They pay local foreign employee's well above average pay of Indians in Employee's except for few. This again put a cost pressure on Wipro. Hence this accelerated the process of cutting cost and hence sacking more people in India. The problem with Wipro was that it was not honest about what it was doing and trying to paint an image of this being a normal process. They also took advantage of the fact that Indian labor regulations are very limited and there are no protection for employee's as done in US & Europe. There is nothing wrong in laying off people to manage cost. But Wipro should have done it in an Honest and transparent manner. It was simply unethical and misonduct by the company and it has certainly left a bad taste on employee's. Many are waiting for the right oppotunity to leave the company. I agree wipro is the worst company to work for.
Posted by:Ram Narayanan
- 22 Aug, 2009
237:
thanks ram narayanan for giving your views. I agree that wipro has been dishonest and has grossly abused its employee's
mehul shah Replied to: Ram Narayanan
- 22 Aug, 2009
239:
100% I beleive this, Iam one of the vicitm of wipro,In the recruitments of 2008 fresher AP engineering candidates, one HR has done 25 crores scam with out knowing to 3rd eye, I have attended campus drives as a tech panel, to get proofs against to that HR ,they have called me for the interragation and they tortured me crually about 13hours and forcebly they have taken the statements from me and on the spot they terminated me. I have done my job very strictly. Iam fighting for my job since 2 years, still that hr case is in court. This has happened on 31st May 2007,still I could not sleep properly I will get good sleep in 3 cases one is my death ,second one is when I through ACID on to rouge who tortured me crually ,third one is when I get my wipro job .My wipro EMP ID is 131615
Posted by:Ram
- 22 Aug, 2009
240:
Hi Ram
Hats off to you ! and we are with u.
But how did they torture u?
Hats off to you ! and we are with u.
But how did they torture u?
utsav Replied to: Ram
- 22 Aug, 2009
241:
A TV company in Noida named Sudarshan TV has sacked me for no reason and want not to pay me my remuneration as was agreed by me and the company's HR. It address is A 88, Sector 4, Noida (U.P.). I joined it on 15 June 2009 as Coordinator. But was sacked on 15 July 2009. My salary was fixed as Rs. 8000/- per month. But & am being offered only Rs. 1000 for the period of 1 July to 15 July. The salary is not paid upto date according to Labour Law. I complained this matter to the President of India, and many ministers but no one is helping me in providing my genuine salary. Phone no. of HR is 09990001968 (Noida, India).
Posted by:Anil Kumar Singh
- 22 Aug, 2009
242:
All the companies are involved in sacking their best employeees because the employers are not much concerned with the work done by the employee but by the money paid regularly to management as bribe. Since bribe is a good amount so every manager is involved in this. I personally have been sacked by many companies in Delhi, Gurgaon and Noida.
Posted by:Anil Kumar Singh
- 22 Aug, 2009
243:
Due to this corruptions wrong people is selected in company .company would be losings lot of money and time on this people . Due to this at time recession he would be fired . . Just selecting a wrong people you will be losing all the fame and money .Who is the responsible for all this Corrupt HR's
Posted by:Raj
- 22 Aug, 2009
244:
Mr Ram Manohar could approach National Human Rights Commission with his allegations of harassment to him by the Management of Wipro.He could also go to the media with his grievances.The former will be more effective.
Posted by:Balaraju.C.S
- 22 Aug, 2009
246:
Hi,
Wipro has the worst HR department in place.They care a damn for employees.If you can go and check its MG road office you can make out what the hygine is.Office with No A/C and dust all around.Cafetaria is on the top floor with roof.Its quite common as far as Wipro is concerned.I was working in HR department of Wipro earlier.
Wipro has the worst HR department in place.They care a damn for employees.If you can go and check its MG road office you can make out what the hygine is.Office with No A/C and dust all around.Cafetaria is on the top floor with roof.Its quite common as far as Wipro is concerned.I was working in HR department of Wipro earlier.
Posted by:Namratha
- 22 Aug, 2009
247:
Heard at Wipro meeting rooms:
1. There are hundreds waiting outside with Cvs.
2.We know how to make you work till 2 in the night. But we do not want to do that (Manager upset with client feedback).
3. If you work like this or do not change your attitude, you will not excel in your next job.
Another trick employed to harass employees is to ask them to put the speaker on on your phone, and shout over it so that everybody in the floor hears it.
Friends, these kinds of tactics are fir for defamation suits. Record such conversations in your mobile and file a case.
1. There are hundreds waiting outside with Cvs.
2.We know how to make you work till 2 in the night. But we do not want to do that (Manager upset with client feedback).
3. If you work like this or do not change your attitude, you will not excel in your next job.
Another trick employed to harass employees is to ask them to put the speaker on on your phone, and shout over it so that everybody in the floor hears it.
Friends, these kinds of tactics are fir for defamation suits. Record such conversations in your mobile and file a case.
Posted by:GI Joe
- 22 Aug, 2009
249:
No one is against lay offs or organiations making profit. atleast not in my ODC. What we are against is thte unfair appraisal, unfair salary hikes, unfair layoffs and the unprofessional supervisors.
People like Gokul Kamath (fit to clean TOILET) are made general managers. By logging into 'mywipro' i come to know my HR. I havent met her in my 3 years life, Nor does she respond to mails.
there are tons of surveys conducted all result to nothing. Stupid training programmes are made here that dont match to your skills and you are put into it. tif you fail, thats it. They would give you an NI even if you are good at your work. they would even close billability without even informing you.
Appraisal process is a silly joke. My appraisal was closed even without discussion and after my salary hike. Salary is pathetic.
there is absolutely no one to question anything here. ombuds process / MITR etc is just a show biz. People who dont understand you or your problems will advice you.
I also partly blame the engineers who put butter on managers, to get an ONSITE or H1 VISA stamping without considering what impact it makes on the other team mates.
Any people who are happy working here are either
1. Highly paid.
2. Get lot of onsite opportunities from time on.
3. just are comfortable here by attending meetings and bluffing around.
The only people i approve here are the security people wou are very honest and would return your mobile phone if you have kept it. and the IMG people who would help you get back your computers to life. the WIPRO systems are so pathetic here. 512 MB RAM and they wouold load all wipro policies in it that would make it so slow. for everything else we need to raise request, get approval from supervisors who wont even check mails, as they would be busy bluffing around well if we ask him about anything like that, well this would reflect in your appraisal cycle.
Last but not the least
IF you are JOINING WIPRO make 2 points very clear.
ONE
Be sure that you negotiate with the HR for a higher pay in the initial itself. else you are doomed. Coz atleast the salary would be motivational to you you WONT get salary HIKE more than 8% per year unless you are one of those buttering types who dont care for your team mates.
"We will give you only 30% hike from the previous company" would be the tone you will hear which is BS, as you will meet people who will be earning double your pay with half your skills,
Make sure WHAT YOU WILL BE GETTING IN HAND. DONT FALL for the CTC joke.as there are lot of silly stuffs like a QPLC component here that you would get only in 3 months the amount depending on the profit made by the Business unit or i dont care what as its too complicated to calculate here.
TWO
MAKE sure which horizontal you are put in. Wipro keeps everyone under testing services as thats what WIPRO is fit for. So mention your skills E.G. JAVA and see to it that you are put into development PES and alike. else you will be given trainings and will have to write tests on technologies that you have no clue about.
Be loyal to your company as long as you are here. If you dont like this place, leave immediately before they discover it.
People like Gokul Kamath (fit to clean TOILET) are made general managers. By logging into 'mywipro' i come to know my HR. I havent met her in my 3 years life, Nor does she respond to mails.
there are tons of surveys conducted all result to nothing. Stupid training programmes are made here that dont match to your skills and you are put into it. tif you fail, thats it. They would give you an NI even if you are good at your work. they would even close billability without even informing you.
Appraisal process is a silly joke. My appraisal was closed even without discussion and after my salary hike. Salary is pathetic.
there is absolutely no one to question anything here. ombuds process / MITR etc is just a show biz. People who dont understand you or your problems will advice you.
I also partly blame the engineers who put butter on managers, to get an ONSITE or H1 VISA stamping without considering what impact it makes on the other team mates.
Any people who are happy working here are either
1. Highly paid.
2. Get lot of onsite opportunities from time on.
3. just are comfortable here by attending meetings and bluffing around.
The only people i approve here are the security people wou are very honest and would return your mobile phone if you have kept it. and the IMG people who would help you get back your computers to life. the WIPRO systems are so pathetic here. 512 MB RAM and they wouold load all wipro policies in it that would make it so slow. for everything else we need to raise request, get approval from supervisors who wont even check mails, as they would be busy bluffing around well if we ask him about anything like that, well this would reflect in your appraisal cycle.
Last but not the least
IF you are JOINING WIPRO make 2 points very clear.
ONE
Be sure that you negotiate with the HR for a higher pay in the initial itself. else you are doomed. Coz atleast the salary would be motivational to you you WONT get salary HIKE more than 8% per year unless you are one of those buttering types who dont care for your team mates.
"We will give you only 30% hike from the previous company" would be the tone you will hear which is BS, as you will meet people who will be earning double your pay with half your skills,
Make sure WHAT YOU WILL BE GETTING IN HAND. DONT FALL for the CTC joke.as there are lot of silly stuffs like a QPLC component here that you would get only in 3 months the amount depending on the profit made by the Business unit or i dont care what as its too complicated to calculate here.
TWO
MAKE sure which horizontal you are put in. Wipro keeps everyone under testing services as thats what WIPRO is fit for. So mention your skills E.G. JAVA and see to it that you are put into development PES and alike. else you will be given trainings and will have to write tests on technologies that you have no clue about.
Be loyal to your company as long as you are here. If you dont like this place, leave immediately before they discover it.
Posted by:badluck
- 22 Aug, 2009
250:
Do you think leaving wipro is so easy? If any of them comes to know about what you are thinking they will increase the harassment from that time onwards. And once you put your resignation papers they may threaten you with things like, they wont give you experience letters unless you stay for the bond period. This can be 2-3 months for offshore employees and upto 6 months if you happen to go onsite for a week.
There is lots of bullshitting going around in this company for sure about offers on onsite etc but things never happen at all for some of them while even worse candidates will be at onsite forever.
There is lots of bullshitting going around in this company for sure about offers on onsite etc but things never happen at all for some of them while even worse candidates will be at onsite forever.
WiproEmployee Replied to: badluck
- 22 Aug, 2009
251:
Dear Ram
I appreciate your step taken on this issue. But just reporting in police will not help much. As you know inida is full of corruption so I advice you to contact News channel like AAJ-TAK or any bangalore tv channel & share all your information with them. This will help not only u but to all IT guy & I guess once you will take this bold steps each & every IT person will join u in ur agenda. So please do this steps
All the Best
Praful
I appreciate your step taken on this issue. But just reporting in police will not help much. As you know inida is full of corruption so I advice you to contact News channel like AAJ-TAK or any bangalore tv channel & share all your information with them. This will help not only u but to all IT guy & I guess once you will take this bold steps each & every IT person will join u in ur agenda. So please do this steps
All the Best
Praful
Posted by:praful
- 22 Aug, 2009
252:
I am working with Wipro since 5 years. Though I am not very happy with this organization, but still feel okay... allmost all IT companies in India are alike.
I strongly support that, the middle level managers in Wipro are worst people and good for nothing. I knew one manager at Wipro Kolkata office, who thaught himself as a king of the office and forced his sub-ordinates to obey his nasty politics. Sometimes he used his official power and took advantages by any means.... even with female employes. I don't believe that higher managers don't know this... but still it went for quite long times. Very recently I heard that that buggerd manager has been sacked....
I strongly support that, the middle level managers in Wipro are worst people and good for nothing. I knew one manager at Wipro Kolkata office, who thaught himself as a king of the office and forced his sub-ordinates to obey his nasty politics. Sometimes he used his official power and took advantages by any means.... even with female employes. I don't believe that higher managers don't know this... but still it went for quite long times. Very recently I heard that that buggerd manager has been sacked....
Posted by:Rajeev
- 22 Aug, 2009
253:
Dear All Friends,
Let me be little harsh on our own self first. We have let this happen to ourselves. If this had happened in 1970 the company could have been facing 100 charges and would be answering to media and court now.
What is needed here is ACTION not mere crying. I would like to meet people among you who would like to take some concrete step to rectify this. We the adults of this generation must rise up to the occasion to straighten things up. It does not need big courage or hard work. All we need to do is just standup together for the cause. The things will be all right the moment we show courage to stand up.
We can’t tolerate such work culture in our motherland. And we won’t let ourselves tortured in our own homes. It’s our home let’s fix it. We would be laughing in the eye of our fathers and our next generation.
Please Email me on the following address if you want to stand up to the occasion. We shall meet and take some concrete action on this. sarangi.sr@gmail.com
Regards,
Mr. Smruti Ranjan
sarangi.sr@gmail.com
Let me be little harsh on our own self first. We have let this happen to ourselves. If this had happened in 1970 the company could have been facing 100 charges and would be answering to media and court now.
What is needed here is ACTION not mere crying. I would like to meet people among you who would like to take some concrete step to rectify this. We the adults of this generation must rise up to the occasion to straighten things up. It does not need big courage or hard work. All we need to do is just standup together for the cause. The things will be all right the moment we show courage to stand up.
We can’t tolerate such work culture in our motherland. And we won’t let ourselves tortured in our own homes. It’s our home let’s fix it. We would be laughing in the eye of our fathers and our next generation.
Please Email me on the following address if you want to stand up to the occasion. We shall meet and take some concrete action on this. sarangi.sr@gmail.com
Regards,
Mr. Smruti Ranjan
sarangi.sr@gmail.com
Posted by:Smruti
- 22 Aug, 2009
254:
Here is the Truth by a WIPROITE:
Yes all the allegations made are correct as I am facing most of these problems currently.
The appraisal process is a mammoth reward machinary for the mostly incompetent favourites, and after that you are told that dude, u deserved better, mebbe next time...but keep on working like that.
moreover, they started a new harrasment system of some tests... I am working on a particular technology and all of a sudden I am asked to write practical knowledge based tests on technologies I never have laid my hands on failing which attracts a NI.....and the cream of the cake is that the mail announcing this Lordly behaviour has "CONRATULATIONS, you have been selected for the test" written in the font of 25 all over it.
Moreover, the ethics are forgotten rather were flushed long ago along with Vivek Paul.....the company that lays too much stress on integrity shows fake experience in case of fresh resources to client.
And, inspite of making consistent profits, rather hitting the targets regularly, we are given half salary and enrichment where some apples of "THEIR" eyes are kept billable for doing nothing or even worse, they are in free pool, yet not enriched. Why? Only god knows.
The organization is fast becoming a pool of incompetent good for nothing people who someday will reach the upper echoleons of the company, infact, in our circles, the biggest curse you can caste on someone is hoping he or she wears a red tag one day (Red Tags are 5 yrs WIPRO experienced resources). All those who can, and who ever get a chance to, try to escape, barring those who know that this is the best place for viruses like them to survive and evolve and hold prestigious designations and the most appealing, controlling the lives and fates of the few unfortunates who will be reporting to them one day.
There is a huge policy framework though, but when it comes to the criteria for enrichment, policies change everyday, person to person, situation to situation. Other policies too are being violated on a regular basis.
The list of attrocities is endless, and I have not even started yet......
Yes all the allegations made are correct as I am facing most of these problems currently.
The appraisal process is a mammoth reward machinary for the mostly incompetent favourites, and after that you are told that dude, u deserved better, mebbe next time...but keep on working like that.
moreover, they started a new harrasment system of some tests... I am working on a particular technology and all of a sudden I am asked to write practical knowledge based tests on technologies I never have laid my hands on failing which attracts a NI.....and the cream of the cake is that the mail announcing this Lordly behaviour has "CONRATULATIONS, you have been selected for the test" written in the font of 25 all over it.
Moreover, the ethics are forgotten rather were flushed long ago along with Vivek Paul.....the company that lays too much stress on integrity shows fake experience in case of fresh resources to client.
And, inspite of making consistent profits, rather hitting the targets regularly, we are given half salary and enrichment where some apples of "THEIR" eyes are kept billable for doing nothing or even worse, they are in free pool, yet not enriched. Why? Only god knows.
The organization is fast becoming a pool of incompetent good for nothing people who someday will reach the upper echoleons of the company, infact, in our circles, the biggest curse you can caste on someone is hoping he or she wears a red tag one day (Red Tags are 5 yrs WIPRO experienced resources). All those who can, and who ever get a chance to, try to escape, barring those who know that this is the best place for viruses like them to survive and evolve and hold prestigious designations and the most appealing, controlling the lives and fates of the few unfortunates who will be reporting to them one day.
There is a huge policy framework though, but when it comes to the criteria for enrichment, policies change everyday, person to person, situation to situation. Other policies too are being violated on a regular basis.
The list of attrocities is endless, and I have not even started yet......
Posted by:PSYCHO
- 22 Aug, 2009
255:
PSYCHO,
This is 200% true...wipro is not a place to stay now...better to shift...I am working with wipro from last 3 years on on project..I am going to resign on monday...as I have seen this enrichment..NI..etc happening without any cause..this can happen to me also on one day...so I got better oppurtunity today..lets see what my manager say on monday after my resignation....
This is 200% true...wipro is not a place to stay now...better to shift...I am working with wipro from last 3 years on on project..I am going to resign on monday...as I have seen this enrichment..NI..etc happening without any cause..this can happen to me also on one day...so I got better oppurtunity today..lets see what my manager say on monday after my resignation....
WIPROITE Replied to: PSYCHO
- 22 Aug, 2009
256:
There are too many inexperienced manager in the IT industry, who have no idea about the legal implication of their behaviors and behave like bullies in the school. Forcing employees to resign is a standard procedure in the industry. And there are many psychological torturing methods are in practice.
This is a serious matter and must be investigated as soon as possible. Unless the Employee takes a back step in pursuing it.
If it is found to be, true WIPRO has to act against the guilty Managers and public its policy about employ welfare. Unless of course it is part of their corporate policy to harass the employees and the managers were just working as per the policy. In that case some senior directors will be answerable to this.
There is a law in this country that works. If it does not we will make it work. No one is above law.
By the way Do anyone here know “Ram Manohar G†personally or his contact number?
This is a serious matter and must be investigated as soon as possible. Unless the Employee takes a back step in pursuing it.
If it is found to be, true WIPRO has to act against the guilty Managers and public its policy about employ welfare. Unless of course it is part of their corporate policy to harass the employees and the managers were just working as per the policy. In that case some senior directors will be answerable to this.
There is a law in this country that works. If it does not we will make it work. No one is above law.
By the way Do anyone here know “Ram Manohar G†personally or his contact number?
Posted by:Smruti
- 21 Aug, 2009
258:
My dear Smruthi madam, this case is not only in IT firms in India but many firms in Gulf & the European countries. That's why U can find many murders, extortions, hangings of managers/ top level in the foreign countries by workers(Low & Middle level). After this recession came there is no respect for the staffs who toil hard and they are forced to quit by various tortures and the companies top level dont accept it saying their managers are good and they express their funny behaviour upon the employees saying "Tum choothya ho hamay paagal math banao". In fact the recession today in the market has made the management and its middlemen "choothya". I have this horrible experience in an Indian company in Gulf where "My life has become miserable" and still that trauma persists even after my 2 months arrival. And 1 thing in life I have learnt "Humanity is dead, achchay achchay chalaygaye, ullu k pattay rehaygaye" This dialogue is for the useless managers who feel that they can survive in this world tretaing their employees like this....... Forcing employees to resign is a standard procedure in the industry. And there are many psychological torturing methods are in practice. One method of HR practice is this(Filthy method), as the world runs very fast, employees are fired/ tortured till the last. Nothing to feel about, just leave upon the Lord and move forward. Those days were different, here whatever U do U have to repent it and go.... Yeh haath de aur yeh haath se lelay (Lord's policy). Sorry if I have hurted U. And I feel sorry for that Professional who was forced to resign and he is married. Surely his curses will strike the guilty one day.
Thanveer Replied to: Smruti
- 22 Aug, 2009
259:
It’s the habit of the IT world. Let me ask you one thing Smruti, do you think Wipro will take an immediate action against this. NO NEVER … Why? Because if they take correct action against this one employee 1000 other employees will rise up ask for equal right.
ram Replied to: Smruti
- 21 Aug, 2009
260:
Let all hundreds and thousands move out from the organization. If harassment is the only way the company enforces on its employee, why work for them!
karthik raja Replied to: ram
- 24 Aug, 2009
261:
After many years in software, I have realized that there is no use complaining about the behaviour of organizations or demanding what we believe to be fair. One MNC refused to give me superannuation money (even though it was deducted from my salary when I was employed there) saying I had to reach a certain level/designation to receive superannuation money. Its time to take our lives into our own hands. I foresee that the traditional employer employee relationship will change. No loyalty either side. Instead we are forming a virtual organization, a group of friends networked around the world and we find projects for ourselves and each other. We pool about 20% of our earnings for common infrastructure and backoffice. There is no management, no HR or other overhead and whether you succeed or fail directly depends on you. No one will ask how you spend your time or ask for leave approval. I believe this type of thing will soon catch fire especially if organizations continue this way.
Posted by:Kalyan
- 21 Aug, 2009
262:
Very Nice Concept, completely agree with the concept of taking charge. Will provide more satisfaction at the end of the day.
BIBuff Replied to: Kalyan
- 22 Aug, 2009
263:
Beautiful - wonderful concept. I know a few people who help each other out and work as a fraternity. But this is taking to the next logical step - I think you need to promote it a bit more Kalyan. If you could share your details with me, may be we can touchbase. A sensible posting after a long time.
Raj Replied to: Kalyan
- 21 Aug, 2009
264:
Cool guys, i was having an idea in mind like this. But we are poor in implementing it. It was happened to me also in a bad manner by Same dash. When I Quit they told they wont give my relieving and experience letter. I thought of suite a case to get that. But unfortunately my next company haven't need that. We need to realize that we should not pawn our stuffs, respect to their bloody brokerages.
'Thani oru manithanukku unavillai endral jaggathinai alithuvidu' - Bharathi 'The Great tamil poet'
Which means that
Destroy the world, if a single men didn't get his bread.
'Thani oru manithanukku unavillai endral jaggathinai alithuvidu' - Bharathi 'The Great tamil poet'
Which means that
Destroy the world, if a single men didn't get his bread.
Raja Replied to: Raj
- 21 Aug, 2009
265:
Thats the spirit Raj, Join hands then - email me sarangi.sr@gmail.com
Mr.Smruti Replied to: Raja
- 22 Aug, 2009
266:
The employee should lodge a complaint with the Assistant Labour Commisssioner asap. The BJP government in Karnataka should hold an enquiry and hold open forum on this issue as this will bring out stories. This is a criminal act, and severe punishment should be given to those who allegedly harassed the techie.
Posted by:Kiran
- 21 Aug, 2009
267:
Mr.Premji should look, what is happening at bottom level, he always looks in a cream level. He should have some proper process in place, self apprisial, which employee can write is comments on is supervisor/manager, the copy should reach to Mr.Premji, directly.
WIPRO is not a professional company / it is a Lala company, I have also worked in wipro for 15 yrs. The organisation is a tipical Mini Government organisation
WIPRO is not a professional company / it is a Lala company, I have also worked in wipro for 15 yrs. The organisation is a tipical Mini Government organisation
Posted by:nagaraj
- 21 Aug, 2009
268:
Yes, you are correct about lala Company...I was also with Wipro for 10 years.
You are wrong about Mini Government organization, its worst than a Government Organization.
Now-a-days Government Employees have professionalism in their duties.
You are wrong about Mini Government organization, its worst than a Government Organization.
Now-a-days Government Employees have professionalism in their duties.
Golu Replied to: nagaraj
- 22 Aug, 2009
269:
Lets form a good firm yaar and we will be an example for the bullshit firms like Wipro.... So that the generations remember us in good form in future. Beatiful concept with creative mind.... WHY EMPLOYEES LEAVE ORGANISATIONS ? - Azim Premji, CEO- Wipro
Every company faces the problem of people leaving the company for better pay or profile.
Early this year, Mark, a senior software designer, got an offer from a prestigious international firm to work in its India operations developing specialized software. He was thrilled by the offer.
He had heard a lot about the CEO. The salary was great. The company had all the right systems in place employee-friendly human resources (HR) policies, a spanking new office,and the very best technology,even a canteen that served superb food.
Twice Mark was sent abroad for training. "My learning curve is the sharpest it's ever been," he said soon after he joined.
Last week, less than eight months after he joined, Mark walked out of the job.
Why did this talented employee leave ?
Arun quit for the same reason that drives many good people away.
The answer lies in one of the largest studies undertaken by the Gallup Organization. The study surveyed over a million employees and 80,000 managers and was published in a book called "First Break All The Rules". It came up with this surprising finding:
If you're losing good people, look to their manager .... manager is the reason people stay and thrive in an organization. And he 's the reason why people leave. When people leave they take knowledge,experienc e and contacts with them, straight to the competition.
"People leave managers not companies," write the authors Marcus Buckingham and Curt Coffman.
Mostly manager drives people away?
HR experts say that of all the abuses, employees find humiliationthe most intolerable. The first time, an employee may not leave,but a thought has been planted. The second time, that thought gets strengthened. The third time, he looks for another job.
When people cannot retort openly in anger, they do so by passive aggression. By digging their heels in and slowing down. By doing only what they are told to do and no more. By omitting to give the boss crucial information. Dev says: "If you work for a jerk, you basically want to get him into trouble. You don 't have your heart and soul in the job."
Different managers can stress out employees in different ways - by being too controlling, too suspicious, too pushy, too critical, but they forget that workers are not fixed assets, they are free agents. When this goes on too long, an employee will quit - often over a trivial issue. This was the speech given by the CEO..... Which is only in words not on deeds.
Talented men leave. Dead wood doesn't.
Every company faces the problem of people leaving the company for better pay or profile.
Early this year, Mark, a senior software designer, got an offer from a prestigious international firm to work in its India operations developing specialized software. He was thrilled by the offer.
He had heard a lot about the CEO. The salary was great. The company had all the right systems in place employee-friendly human resources (HR) policies, a spanking new office,and the very best technology,even a canteen that served superb food.
Twice Mark was sent abroad for training. "My learning curve is the sharpest it's ever been," he said soon after he joined.
Last week, less than eight months after he joined, Mark walked out of the job.
Why did this talented employee leave ?
Arun quit for the same reason that drives many good people away.
The answer lies in one of the largest studies undertaken by the Gallup Organization. The study surveyed over a million employees and 80,000 managers and was published in a book called "First Break All The Rules". It came up with this surprising finding:
If you're losing good people, look to their manager .... manager is the reason people stay and thrive in an organization. And he 's the reason why people leave. When people leave they take knowledge,experienc e and contacts with them, straight to the competition.
"People leave managers not companies," write the authors Marcus Buckingham and Curt Coffman.
Mostly manager drives people away?
HR experts say that of all the abuses, employees find humiliationthe most intolerable. The first time, an employee may not leave,but a thought has been planted. The second time, that thought gets strengthened. The third time, he looks for another job.
When people cannot retort openly in anger, they do so by passive aggression. By digging their heels in and slowing down. By doing only what they are told to do and no more. By omitting to give the boss crucial information. Dev says: "If you work for a jerk, you basically want to get him into trouble. You don 't have your heart and soul in the job."
Different managers can stress out employees in different ways - by being too controlling, too suspicious, too pushy, too critical, but they forget that workers are not fixed assets, they are free agents. When this goes on too long, an employee will quit - often over a trivial issue. This was the speech given by the CEO..... Which is only in words not on deeds.
Talented men leave. Dead wood doesn't.
Thanveer Replied to: nagaraj
- 22 Aug, 2009
271:
I dont prefer to comment on news and stories but, this is something really bad going on if it is a real picture. So many comments so far and some are for Wipro ( proud on wipro guys ) and some against Wipro ( worst comp type comment ). I would first thank to the person for taking this in public and taking help of court if it is real. He has gutts. May be he has no other option since market si too bad to get other job. Generally people forget all these and start working in new comp . Let the court investigate and everything will be out soon. So, not commenting anything on either side. Will wait for court's decision. Court should take strict action against culprit. If employee is maligning the name of comp or comp is doing all these underworks. Lets see what is the truth. But, one thing is true that something took place which forced this person to complaint and why not wipro first initiated the case.
Posted by:Chandra Shekhar Tewary
- 21 Aug, 2009
272:
And one thing is sure that now onwards every good employee will try to avoid wipro for sure. What is the need of working in a comp which has so many hidden stories like this ..true or false...something is cooking in this comp and why a good person will try to fetch into all these bad stuffs.
Chandra Shekhar Tewary Replied to: Chandra Shekhar Tewary
- 21 Aug, 2009
273:
Guys,
Naukri's HARI SADU's advt. is back :)
No need to worry... time to play wise.
Naukri's HARI SADU's advt. is back :)
No need to worry... time to play wise.
Posted by:raghu
- 21 Aug, 2009
274:
Guys. this guy is ridiculous. How can he predict some ones age just with his experience. I strongly believe you are from middle mgmt in Wipro. I have lots of friends working in Wipro. They say they are counting each day they spend at Wipro. They are mentally tortured by their top guys. Wizard.Everyone knows what is happening out there. You cannot keep few thousands mouth Shut! Mostly the explanation that is going to come out is \" He was a bad Performer \". Many Best performers has become Bad Performers when it comes to sacking. No Questions Asked.!
Posted by:Sunil
- 21 Aug, 2009
275:
That's true Sunil. I think Wizard is a fresher so please forgive him. He will learn the lesson soon. All the best Wizard. Hope you don't learn the hard way. Take my advise Wizard, I'm a X Wiproite.
Roger Replied to: Sunil
- 22 Aug, 2009
276:
commonsense man...which unfortunately seems uncommon in your case...
Wizard Replied to: Sunil
- 21 Aug, 2009
277:
I understand the organization are there for making Profit. During good time they hire in huge numbers. The estimated figure of Bench was 17-20% before recession. Now it has came down to below 5-7%.
My point is when you expect the business to grow, you hire in good numbers, and pay salaries..
And in bad time, you lay off. This is not ethical practise.
Also tell me which IT company is not having Profit this quarter. All of them are making good profit.. Recession has been a blessing for them, They are doing good buinsess keeping the operating cost low by not paying full salary, and making the employee work for more than 10 hours.
The company has to remember that this is a cycle, once recession is over. Do you think any one will have a sense of trust to this company. I m not sure if you will have...
My point is when you expect the business to grow, you hire in good numbers, and pay salaries..
And in bad time, you lay off. This is not ethical practise.
Also tell me which IT company is not having Profit this quarter. All of them are making good profit.. Recession has been a blessing for them, They are doing good buinsess keeping the operating cost low by not paying full salary, and making the employee work for more than 10 hours.
The company has to remember that this is a cycle, once recession is over. Do you think any one will have a sense of trust to this company. I m not sure if you will have...
Posted by:Someone
- 21 Aug, 2009
278:
Fiends..
I am not an employee to any of these big firms, But is this an isolated Incident?, no right. TCS,Infosys,Satyam and other IT companies had laid off many people. So y every one is after wipro alone. My friends are working in Wipro and i havent heard such a bad remark from them about wipro.
Every company has got Pro and cons.. Its beter to see the Brighter side such as remuneration :-) Being an Experienced guy of 11 years(RAJ) I think he can get another job soon with out much problem, even though it wont be able to match the previous amount(salary) he used to get.
As its says"Better to Have something than Nothing"
I am not an employee to any of these big firms, But is this an isolated Incident?, no right. TCS,Infosys,Satyam and other IT companies had laid off many people. So y every one is after wipro alone. My friends are working in Wipro and i havent heard such a bad remark from them about wipro.
Every company has got Pro and cons.. Its beter to see the Brighter side such as remuneration :-) Being an Experienced guy of 11 years(RAJ) I think he can get another job soon with out much problem, even though it wont be able to match the previous amount(salary) he used to get.
As its says"Better to Have something than Nothing"
Posted by:vinu
- 21 Aug, 2009
279:
Trust me, Wipro Management is useless and un-educated.
kmi Replied to: vinu
- 21 Aug, 2009
281:
For your kind information Mr Zed, We never had any Goodwill to spoil it.
Posted by:abc
- 21 Aug, 2009
283:
So what do you mean to say... If you are kicking people for companys benifit, then you should alos consider through whome you made this profit.
Wipro top management doesnt have any brain on their own. If other companys introduce any new policy favouring the company, Wipro will be the first person to follow it.
In simple, Wipro is a fish market.
Wipro top management doesnt have any brain on their own. If other companys introduce any new policy favouring the company, Wipro will be the first person to follow it.
In simple, Wipro is a fish market.
Posted by:viky
- 21 Aug, 2009
284:
First of all I would like to thank Ram Mohan for fileing a case. I know there are several hundrds of people gone through the same state including my self. I know very well about wipro culture, worked there for 4 years..
Managers shouting infront of all is very common in Wipro. Even I have seen managers threating their subordinates.
In my enttire 4 years carrier in wipro, Only for 2 weeks I was non billable, they harashed me to send the resignation letter.
I sincerly request NASCOM to Blacklist Wipro.
Managers shouting infront of all is very common in Wipro. Even I have seen managers threating their subordinates.
In my enttire 4 years carrier in wipro, Only for 2 weeks I was non billable, they harashed me to send the resignation letter.
I sincerly request NASCOM to Blacklist Wipro.
Posted by:Viky
- 21 Aug, 2009
285:
Totally,Wipro's goodwill is got spoiled! Good.Lol
Posted by:Zed
- 21 Aug, 2009
286:
People crying out hoarse here, if organizations dont lay off people for performance reasons then they will start loosing profits and then there will be more loss of employment to others.
What happened with this guy we have heard only his side and media outlets are known to blow things out of proportion.
I personally believe that if a company pays you good salary during good times, it has the right to reduce the same or even lay off people when times are not good. Thats why IT industry can afford to pay the people the salaries the amount that they can.
Please note that it is a fact of life. The moment we get into all this BS productivity will be lost and companies would not be able to make profits and hence there will be no salary hikes etc etc
What happened with this guy we have heard only his side and media outlets are known to blow things out of proportion.
I personally believe that if a company pays you good salary during good times, it has the right to reduce the same or even lay off people when times are not good. Thats why IT industry can afford to pay the people the salaries the amount that they can.
Please note that it is a fact of life. The moment we get into all this BS productivity will be lost and companies would not be able to make profits and hence there will be no salary hikes etc etc
Posted by:NRI
- 21 Aug, 2009
287:
There are better Salaries offered in industries other than IT. IT is not a highly paid job, rather, its unduly paid job with all its uncertainty.
Golu Replied to: NRI
- 22 Aug, 2009
288:
I understand the organization are there for making Profit. During good time they hire in huge numbers. The estimated figure of Bench was 17-20% before recession. Now it has came down to below 5-7%.
My point is when you expect the business to grow, you hire in good numbers, and pay salaries..
And in bad time, you lay off. This is not ethical practise.
Also tell me which IT company is not having Profit this quarter. All of them are making good profit.. Recession has been a blessing for them, They are doing good buinsess keeping the operating cost low by not paying full salary, and making the employee work for more than 10 hours.
The company has to remember that this is a cycle, once recession is over. Do you think any one will have a sense of trust to this company. I m not sure if you will have...
My point is when you expect the business to grow, you hire in good numbers, and pay salaries..
And in bad time, you lay off. This is not ethical practise.
Also tell me which IT company is not having Profit this quarter. All of them are making good profit.. Recession has been a blessing for them, They are doing good buinsess keeping the operating cost low by not paying full salary, and making the employee work for more than 10 hours.
The company has to remember that this is a cycle, once recession is over. Do you think any one will have a sense of trust to this company. I m not sure if you will have...
Someone Replied to: NRI
- 21 Aug, 2009
289:
"One thing is sure i will never join wipro (glad i was never there at the first place) and do what ever best to stop others." - if you've not worked in Wipro, stop commenting...I'm a Wiproite and proud of that...most of the guys who have commented on this chain are guys with plain selfish motives who have never ever been near Wipro. Most of the tales mentioned are purely concocted to add fuel to fire...how many have really applied your brains here while assessing the allegations made...confined by a lady in a conference hall and forced to sign documents...was she holding a pistol to his head? How can we be so naive to belive such things? I've not seen any dungeons or cellars here where they can keep you locked up as he alleges...that too, we're talking about a man (11 years experience, must be around 33-34 years old)...and what was he doing all these months...seems he was sacked in March? Come on guys...grow up!
Posted by:Wizard
- 21 Aug, 2009
290:
I Worked in Wipro for past 10 years till this year...And all these written here is not non-sence....I have been involved in 3 cases exactly like this what is being discussed here, before I left Wipro.
You be proud & make Wipro proud of you.
You be proud & make Wipro proud of you.
Golu Replied to: Wizard
- 22 Aug, 2009
291:
Mr. Golu. If you have not faced a real situation like this in Wipro, consider yourself lucky. You may be one of those who works in a real good team and having good managers. I know such teams exist but its really rare.
Windows Engineer Replied to: Golu
- 22 Aug, 2009
292:
You must be one from the Non-Sense middle mgmt in Wipro, who have lot of time for commenting, and does not work..Hope you will understand only when you will have to go through such agony and humiliation..
It might have took him months to get courage to fight against a Monster like WIPRO.. Its self esteem which made him to file a case against wipro..
I am sure there are many people like him who went through the same truma, but did not have guts to file a police complaint..
It might have took him months to get courage to fight against a Monster like WIPRO.. Its self esteem which made him to file a case against wipro..
I am sure there are many people like him who went through the same truma, but did not have guts to file a police complaint..
Someone Replied to: Wizard
- 21 Aug, 2009
293:
how can you say that "11 years experience, must be around 33-34 years old" .. everyone is not started his/her job in 21-23 yr old.
its looking like that to you just want to say something good for Wipro only... but after reading your comments it’s very clear that you are useless guy to make comments ...just stop doing this...
its looking like that to you just want to say something good for Wipro only... but after reading your comments it’s very clear that you are useless guy to make comments ...just stop doing this...
Sarang Replied to: Wizard
- 21 Aug, 2009
294:
so then are you saying he might be older? exactly my point, you dolt! are you also scared of a lady who would ask you to sign on blank papers..you pansy..exactly like "Someone" above
Wizard Replied to: Sarang
- 22 Aug, 2009
296:
Thats really bad, what happened to RAM.
I think this has been happening in WIPRO for a while.. Being wipro was my first company, i know very well their policy and HR practices. They have wrost work culture and ethics.
Also the middle management is a bunch of Nonsense people, who drive the business.. Let me tell you they are the useless.
Those who are praising the company like Wipro, might not be the one who have experience with Wipro.
I will not join Wipro also will not let my friend do so....
I think this has been happening in WIPRO for a while.. Being wipro was my first company, i know very well their policy and HR practices. They have wrost work culture and ethics.
Also the middle management is a bunch of Nonsense people, who drive the business.. Let me tell you they are the useless.
Those who are praising the company like Wipro, might not be the one who have experience with Wipro.
I will not join Wipro also will not let my friend do so....
Posted by:Someone
- 21 Aug, 2009
297:
Wow, this episode has really brought out strong reactions! My 2-paise worth on this:
- Guys, be careful while making a hero/martyr of this person. Every story has 2 sides, and we have not yet heard Wipro's. I can say from experience that there are all kinds of characters floating in the industry, and we need to probe more about this guy's claims.
- Clearly, IT industry is going the way of traditional industry, with the chasm between management and workers widening by the day. The wave of support for Ram shows this. It is a very bad sign, and could lead to the death of IT Outsourcing as we know it. I hope the Premji's and Gopalakrishnan's of the world sit up and take remedial action.
- Wipro, Infosys and their ilk have truly bred an army of cyber-coolies who don't understand the nature of business. They just do what is instructed to them, and expect that fat salaries land on their plate. These companies had encouraged this trend as long as it suited them. Now it is backfiring, as employees realize how low they are on the food chain.
- Guys, be careful while making a hero/martyr of this person. Every story has 2 sides, and we have not yet heard Wipro's. I can say from experience that there are all kinds of characters floating in the industry, and we need to probe more about this guy's claims.
- Clearly, IT industry is going the way of traditional industry, with the chasm between management and workers widening by the day. The wave of support for Ram shows this. It is a very bad sign, and could lead to the death of IT Outsourcing as we know it. I hope the Premji's and Gopalakrishnan's of the world sit up and take remedial action.
- Wipro, Infosys and their ilk have truly bred an army of cyber-coolies who don't understand the nature of business. They just do what is instructed to them, and expect that fat salaries land on their plate. These companies had encouraged this trend as long as it suited them. Now it is backfiring, as employees realize how low they are on the food chain.
Posted by:Robin Hood
- 21 Aug, 2009
298:
I too had similar experience i and some others were locked in a room at Wipro kolkata campus and forced to resign.
Posted by:Satyanarayana Murty
- 21 Aug, 2009
299:
Really...now, why would they do that to poor innocent you? how long were you locked in? was a guard posted outside with weapons? how many of you were locked in? How many people were there who locked you in? Did they throw the key into a well or something? did they give you food? and water? didn't you have the guts to fight..or scream like a pansy? Did they force you also to sign on blank papers?
w@r10ck Replied to: Satyanarayana Murty
- 21 Aug, 2009
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My My My Mr war10ck is an army officer who has time now to kill because hes on leave and he comments about WORK which he has no idea of. Do u ever work my friend India is such a peace loving country that even when we are rammed by the enemy we dont payback but still like to talk and negotiate. So, what do u know about work and about people who slog their butts out in Offices We never are and never will be at war so what work do u do Seems like u guys are always on leave and cant imagine they give u leave over and above that :-) :-) Guess the army men who really work are those who are posted at Kashmir and the border posts.So u have to run thru the mill my friend to understand the problems of those who face it. Now tell me r u happy with the comments that i made on ur work - surely not. I might be talking rubbish coz i dont know what u go thru in the army. Similarly u shouldnt be expressing ur views that too taking the opposite side just for the heck of it when people who are suffering are giving vent to the feelings be it on an anonymous forum or not.U dont know what they are goin thru so please dont play around with peoples feelings just because ur jobless right now.I always did hold armymen in high esteem and still do. They are selfless and help people in strife and put their lives on the line for their country and countrymen. Im sure that no armyman would like to see his countryman suffer. U seem to be an exception and just because u have nothing to do u invest ur time in ridiculing people who are anguished and suffering. Maybe expressing their views on an anonymous forumn allows them to alleviate the bad feelings that they have suppressed within themselves - gives them a comfort feeling. So what the hell is ur problem Can u help them or are you gonna take steps to help them Then why do u comment in the negative Guess they should post u in Kashmir for u to understand work and its accompanying travails.So chill mate and dont irritate people who are already suffering and irritated.
I Stand For Justice Replied to: w@r10ck
- 22 Aug, 2009
301:
u dolt...u are really dumb..u missed my point..and who says i'm not posted in J&K?
w@r10ck Replied to: I Stand For Justice
- 24 Aug, 2009
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My Friend to u everyone is a dolt and everyone is dumb. Have u done an introspection of urself? If u were so bloody brilliant, u wud have been a scientist at ISRO. Guess u have got to learn humility from our ex President the great Dr Abdul Kalam. If I am dumb then u must be dumber. I did get ur point but all i am saying is that u have got to be a lot more humane. This might be an anonymous site wherein cribbing might not get a person anywhere. However, it might be an avenue for a person to release his frustrations and so let a person do what pleases him or her instead of ridiculing him or her.By ridiculing a person, arent u adding to his misery Armymen show a lot more compassion and humanity inspite of being rough and tough but u my friend seem to be an exception. Yeah i might be dumb but ive now bumped into someone a lot dumber. U too have not understood my mail mate and i dont care whether ure posted at Jammu and Kashmir or at Timbaktoo, all i ask of u is to be a little humane if possible and not to ridicule anyone.
I Stand For Justice Replied to: w@r10ck
- 24 Aug, 2009
303:
LoL, good one w@r10ck. Murty and some of the other guys in the thread are such losers. If what they say is true, then why didn't they protest at once? What is the point of speaking out on these kind of anonymous forums? Satyanarayana Murty and Wipro deserve each other.
Amused Replied to: w@r10ck
- 21 Aug, 2009
304:
Once I have been offered and when i was about to join they forced me a different rules which i haven't been informed. when i said i would not join and i would like to stay back in my company they have sent me a note saying they have blacklisted and i would never able to join in Wipro again. Who want to join in such a company?
harry Replied to: w@r10ck
- 21 Aug, 2009
305:
This is not first incident for the company.Wipro is indeed one of the worst IT company in terms of its work ethics , culture and employee satisfaction.It was corroborated by a recent incident that happened with one of the girl working at Wipro hyderabad.She was forced to stay at office late in the night and was left to go home at 3 a.m in the night.Provided with no transport,she had to go to her home with a friend.In between their way they were attacked severely and looted by local criminals.There were no incidental action taken for the injured and dejected girl and her family.
Incidents like these are a regular part of companies like Wipro.Though they come out in public rarely.Quoting to be "world class" ,"applying innovation" probably only applying to the ways to harass employees.
The companies should ideally be epitomes in world.But they rather contribute to deface India Inc image in the large world.
I will remain jobless,I will probably do any menial work but will NEVER ever opt to join Wipro or the alike companies.And when I say that ,its because I have immediate experiences of my friends working ..aa aa suffering...
Incidents like these are a regular part of companies like Wipro.Though they come out in public rarely.Quoting to be "world class" ,"applying innovation" probably only applying to the ways to harass employees.
The companies should ideally be epitomes in world.But they rather contribute to deface India Inc image in the large world.
I will remain jobless,I will probably do any menial work but will NEVER ever opt to join Wipro or the alike companies.And when I say that ,its because I have immediate experiences of my friends working ..aa aa suffering...
Posted by:the_mood
- 21 Aug, 2009
306:
how touching..aa aa suffering... whatever that means..guess Wipro will never want you moodboy..so don't think they are after you to join..
w@r10ck Replied to: the_mood
- 21 Aug, 2009
308:
wow..wish i got paid for every worthy comment i give...would've been a billionaire (in dollar terms)..and also..you think that Wipro pays me just to comment on a few worthless comments...boy...are you dumb!
w@r10ck Replied to: manzekl
- 21 Aug, 2009
309:
Considering your substantial efforts in putting in a bazillion comments throughout the day, I'm inclined to believe in quite the opposite theory
manzekl Replied to: w@r10ck
- 21 Aug, 2009
310:
i create my own time, Manzekl. All I'm saying is ...stop whining if you did not have the guts to stand up and say that injustice was being meted out to you..not in anonymous forums...how can this clot say that he was held hostage by a lady and forced to sign papers? I'm amused more than shaken! and btw, nobody pays me for anything i comment here, i'm an army officer on leave now...hence plenty of time to kill..
w@r10ck Replied to: manzekl
- 22 Aug, 2009
311:
Its sad to know how things get murkier and people (specially the highly educated and brainy lot who are contributing towards the economy and changing the very shape of India)have been treated. Its even sadder to know that if these so called "world class" organisation are so empty from inside how can there will be direction for other start ups? Now that someone has shown courage to stand up lets support him.
I think Raj should take print / forward these comments to every one in the country (others can do the same for him.Let this msg reach as many as possible so that other companies should think 1000 times before putting their staff to harassment). This will garner support for you in terms of evidence. Your case is not alone, its just that you showed courage. Don't worry for future career prospects, if you are talented there will be millions of oppurtunities. Can someone also care to forward this chain to Mr.Premji.Let him know if he wont step in, it will end wipro's brand image and in turn kill him as "leader" the younger india looks up to.Also the govt should stop celebrating these incomplete & selfish leaders with honors & awards who are only busy targeting to be the next rich person of the country/world.
lot of members commented that IT guys are paid more but we should know they get paid bcoz they generate so much more profit for the company.No one will pay just like that even if it is the country's richest person.
In fact i feel all the wiproites should start a silence fight by stopping the work, until the Mgt take corrective action and walk the talk of respect & dignity for all.
One thing is sure i will never join wipro (glad i was never there at the first place) and do what ever best to stop others.
Ram kudos to you but be careful, garner all the support you can as your fight is against a big monster. Hire very gud lawyer, file complaint at the labor court, Human rights commission and if possible press.Good luck to you.
I think Raj should take print / forward these comments to every one in the country (others can do the same for him.Let this msg reach as many as possible so that other companies should think 1000 times before putting their staff to harassment). This will garner support for you in terms of evidence. Your case is not alone, its just that you showed courage. Don't worry for future career prospects, if you are talented there will be millions of oppurtunities. Can someone also care to forward this chain to Mr.Premji.Let him know if he wont step in, it will end wipro's brand image and in turn kill him as "leader" the younger india looks up to.Also the govt should stop celebrating these incomplete & selfish leaders with honors & awards who are only busy targeting to be the next rich person of the country/world.
lot of members commented that IT guys are paid more but we should know they get paid bcoz they generate so much more profit for the company.No one will pay just like that even if it is the country's richest person.
In fact i feel all the wiproites should start a silence fight by stopping the work, until the Mgt take corrective action and walk the talk of respect & dignity for all.
One thing is sure i will never join wipro (glad i was never there at the first place) and do what ever best to stop others.
Ram kudos to you but be careful, garner all the support you can as your fight is against a big monster. Hire very gud lawyer, file complaint at the labor court, Human rights commission and if possible press.Good luck to you.
Posted by:Bobby
- 21 Aug, 2009
312:
"One thing is sure i will never join wipro (glad i was never there at the first place) and do what ever best to stop others." - if you've not worked in Wipro, stop commenting...I'm a Wiproite and proud of that...most of the guys who have commented on this chain are guys with plain selfish motives who have never ever been near Wipro. Most of the tales mentioned are purely concocted to add fuel to fire...how many have really applied your brains here while assessing the allegations made...confined by a lady in a conference hall and forced to sign documents...was she holding a pistol to his head? How can we be so naive to belive such things? I've not seen any dungeons or cellars here where they can keep you locked up as he alleges...that too, we're talking about a man (11 years experience, must be around 33-34 years old)...and what was he doing all these months...seems he was sacked in March? Come on guys...grow up!
Wizard Replied to: Bobby
- 21 Aug, 2009
314:
This way, Wizard can best feel proud of Wipro.
Golu Replied to: harry
- 22 Aug, 2009
315:
Grow up ......hmmm.... Mr. Murthy siad that he is an employee of wipro and he too had same issues at kolkata office. Ask him and then comment.
kunal Replied to: Wizard
- 21 Aug, 2009
316:
seen all the comments buddy...what i'm asking is only logical..not magical..suggest you read my comments again..
Wizard Replied to: kunal
- 22 Aug, 2009
317:
This is the right time to understand which company is caring employees. The companies like these we should not join. Any way recession will come and go. We getting high salary because we work day and night.. we dedicate our private life to these companies... The salary what we are getting is just the 20 % of the revenue what companies getting from projects. now they making use of recession...
COME AND JOIN GUYS.... dont try to ditch each other..
COME AND JOIN GUYS.... dont try to ditch each other..
Posted by:chandan
- 21 Aug, 2009
318:
This is not only with wipro, but with all IT and ITES.We all were hired as Labours (white coller labours),and now when they don't want us they find either reasons or even for no reason the employee is kicked....This is the best example of wasting the best resourses of the country....
People were hired irrespective of their qualification and then now they are told to compete and clear innovative assesments beyond boundries.If sylabus covers which subjects which needs years in an engineering college.The list would be endless in the industry.What these people need to understand is they really need to stop playing with the careers of people.
People were hired irrespective of their qualification and then now they are told to compete and clear innovative assesments beyond boundries.If sylabus covers which subjects which needs years in an engineering college.The list would be endless in the industry.What these people need to understand is they really need to stop playing with the careers of people.
Posted by:Joe boy
- 21 Aug, 2009
319:
All i can say is Wipro has been very unfair to the employees. The way they are asking people to resign is not right. they aren't doing justice. And all the unfair means which they have been using have to be somehow communicated to Premji... The top management needs to be fired first.Just imagine a person having joined wipro as a fresher and spending 3+ yrs in Wipro is being told " We are unable to find a project matching your Profile and hence we will have to go for separation". Who the heck was responsible for that kind of profile of that employee.Obviously Wipro. Coz he never worked in any other company before that...
Posted by:kaminey
- 21 Aug, 2009
320:
Hi Guys,
It seems good that you all are concerned abt ppl and organizations. However, organizations don't have any right to throw its ppl out. In this particular case, if the guy is not performing well, there must be some mails or written notice to the person to perform upto the mark. Meanwhile, the person can challege the organization by showing his previous track records in other oranizations and his last year appraisal in wipro. But company can not sack someone without giving any prior notice, whether he is performing or not. Until, Unless it's a case of integrity or any unethical conduct.
It seems good that you all are concerned abt ppl and organizations. However, organizations don't have any right to throw its ppl out. In this particular case, if the guy is not performing well, there must be some mails or written notice to the person to perform upto the mark. Meanwhile, the person can challege the organization by showing his previous track records in other oranizations and his last year appraisal in wipro. But company can not sack someone without giving any prior notice, whether he is performing or not. Until, Unless it's a case of integrity or any unethical conduct.
Posted by:I M genius
- 21 Aug, 2009
321:
will a company blacklist a guy before joining and for not joining by making a decision?
harry Replied to: I M genius
- 21 Aug, 2009
322:
hey guys...enough of discussing...now its time to do something..
I am going to create a forum in silicon for all It prefessionals,the motto is...
1)human rights for IT professionals
2)save ourselves from cruel companies
3)strenghen our bondage
i propoese some names....
indian forum of information technology(IFIT)
indian forum of software professional(IFSP)
indian unison of software professional(IUSP)
anybody has any other name in mind...
come on guys...lets do something...just remember the same age-old quote 'united we stand, devided we fall'
I am going to create a forum in silicon for all It prefessionals,the motto is...
1)human rights for IT professionals
2)save ourselves from cruel companies
3)strenghen our bondage
i propoese some names....
indian forum of information technology(IFIT)
indian forum of software professional(IFSP)
indian unison of software professional(IUSP)
anybody has any other name in mind...
come on guys...lets do something...just remember the same age-old quote 'united we stand, devided we fall'
Posted by:ranjoy
- 21 Aug, 2009
323:
Added to that I have been sacked from a bangalore based public ltd. company. I have 4 years of development experiance. I used to work upto 2:00 pm daily for atleast 4 months. I were given new projects with hapazard technologies. But very less duration to complete. Then I were forced to resign.
The IT JOB consultancies are dealing the jobless people worse nowadays. They need 4 - 7 years experianced people in contract basis. In a very low salary. Their demand is :
10 marksheet, + marksheet, degree certificate, reasons for leaving the company, cheque leaf for security, The do ask only for a direct interview, not a telephonic round.
Chennai based IT JOB consultancies are worse.
The IT JOB consultancies are dealing the jobless people worse nowadays. They need 4 - 7 years experianced people in contract basis. In a very low salary. Their demand is :
10 marksheet, + marksheet, degree certificate, reasons for leaving the company, cheque leaf for security, The do ask only for a direct interview, not a telephonic round.
Chennai based IT JOB consultancies are worse.
Java_J2ee_developer Replied to: ranjoy
- 21 Aug, 2009
325:
why don't you SIT at home and not bother pls. How can you conjour up such a dumb name?
ranjoy Replied to: Shaji
- 21 Aug, 2009
326:
try to improve ur spellings buddy, it gives different meanings.. lol
deeps Replied to: ranjoy
- 21 Aug, 2009
327:
by the way...forget creating a forum...go to school first...
Ajay Replied to: ranjoy
- 21 Aug, 2009
328:
What ranjoy is telling is correct. We need to have a forum. Before taking for interview they ask thousand things. But we are not supposed to ask why? that too after spending 11 years in the industry?. Every one is threatening that he will block the employee name in NASSCOM. As if NASSCOM don't have anyother job.
Shame on us. We should do something.
Shame on us. We should do something.
Java_J2ee_developer Replied to: Ajay
- 21 Aug, 2009
329:
Ranjoy...suggest you get a dictionary out and check out the meaning of "bondage"...i mean if you are going use this as a motto...at least get the grammer correct...use "bond"
w@r10ck Replied to: ranjoy
- 21 Aug, 2009
330:
It doesn't always mean what you ment.
Zed Replied to: w@r10ck
- 21 Aug, 2009
331:
yes..my mistake. and u ppl keep finding mistakes only
well done.
Thanks
Ranjoy
well done.
Thanks
Ranjoy
ranjoy Replied to: w@r10ck
- 21 Aug, 2009
332:
yeah, we are like that only! Now..now..don't sulk..go do something usefull..like dipping your head in some icy cold water :P
w@r10ck Replied to: ranjoy
- 21 Aug, 2009
334:
so you found out, wiseguy. that was a black swan :)
w@r10ck Replied to: sub
- 21 Aug, 2009
335:
Here's the deal.
There is a culture forced resignation.
There are managers who have no clue how to manage things.
There are HR functions who do not know their own purpose.
My friends ( i know they are good techinical people) have gone through all the nonsense that the higher ups dish out.
You need to be your manager's pet.
You cannot think out of the box.
Teams will be rewared in front of clients not to appreciate their work but to create a nice goody picture.
Your appraisals is just a tool for the HR to use as statistics.
The post appriasal discussion is not to set new goals but just a wasteful excercise. Works only to vent out steam.
BEEN THERE. BEEN THROUGH IT ALL. People like Raji and others who have not worked here should not really comment.
All this said.
There are people who are not worth salaries they get working here. (who grow (read "loyal" employees) and have become the bulk of managers)
There are excellent people at the very top. there are brilliant people at the fresher level.
The middle bulge is screwing the company completely.
What Ram mentions i can relate to. He may saying the truth or concocting parts of it. But i can assure you, it must have happened to atleast 4000 Rams in Wipro.
Believe me - Good people once thrown out will never come back here and spread the word among atleast 400 others!
There is a culture forced resignation.
There are managers who have no clue how to manage things.
There are HR functions who do not know their own purpose.
My friends ( i know they are good techinical people) have gone through all the nonsense that the higher ups dish out.
You need to be your manager's pet.
You cannot think out of the box.
Teams will be rewared in front of clients not to appreciate their work but to create a nice goody picture.
Your appraisals is just a tool for the HR to use as statistics.
The post appriasal discussion is not to set new goals but just a wasteful excercise. Works only to vent out steam.
BEEN THERE. BEEN THROUGH IT ALL. People like Raji and others who have not worked here should not really comment.
All this said.
There are people who are not worth salaries they get working here. (who grow (read "loyal" employees) and have become the bulk of managers)
There are excellent people at the very top. there are brilliant people at the fresher level.
The middle bulge is screwing the company completely.
What Ram mentions i can relate to. He may saying the truth or concocting parts of it. But i can assure you, it must have happened to atleast 4000 Rams in Wipro.
Believe me - Good people once thrown out will never come back here and spread the word among atleast 400 others!
Posted by:Cheeka
- 21 Aug, 2009
336:
Cheeka, does any where in the whole discussion is it mentioned that a non Wipro person should comment.
I am not against employees rights and I believe that employee comes first before any thing, there might be chances that these entire forceful acts happened but tell me how many employees are still working in Wipro even after all these incidents.
Wipro is not build in a day, it took years for them to come at this position where thousands of employees are with them, and not just this techies who are fresher who don’t have any clue about what is corporate world Wipro is hiring those kids. I know college graduates are still proud to say that they are campus selected in Wipro. Try convincing one such collage or a student not to come and join Wipro.
One thing do any one among you have guts to open a new company and hire all these unemployed techies who lost there jobs because of various reason and compete Wipro in HR practices
I am not against employees rights and I believe that employee comes first before any thing, there might be chances that these entire forceful acts happened but tell me how many employees are still working in Wipro even after all these incidents.
Wipro is not build in a day, it took years for them to come at this position where thousands of employees are with them, and not just this techies who are fresher who don’t have any clue about what is corporate world Wipro is hiring those kids. I know college graduates are still proud to say that they are campus selected in Wipro. Try convincing one such collage or a student not to come and join Wipro.
One thing do any one among you have guts to open a new company and hire all these unemployed techies who lost there jobs because of various reason and compete Wipro in HR practices
Raji Replied to: Cheeka
- 25 Aug, 2009
337:
These companies talk in a high pitch about the HR and ethics. I know instances where Infosys makes women employees (including pregnant women) to sit beyond mid night. Next day morning, they need to report the office at the usual time. Even animals have protection from harassment. I don't know whether Infosys is protected from 'human right violations'. Ask them to talk about HR and ethics. They will talk hours together :)
Posted by:Srinivasan
- 21 Aug, 2009
338:
my sympathy to u Ram. but this is not the first time I heard about Wipro doing unethical practices. almost every guy came from Wipro telling the same story. Ram, u can find a lawyr and sue the company...India has a strong labour Law, they cant simply terminate u, if u r a permanent emp. take more buddies with u who also been sacked and file a case togather. teach the BUSTARD a lesson.
Posted by:ranjoy
- 21 Aug, 2009
339:
Its good time that all IT guys come together and try to raise voice against one sided HR policies. We guys just keep on workin because we are paid handsome salaries.
There must be a forum where software guys can seek professional advice from Industry Experts.
There must be a forum where software guys can seek professional advice from Industry Experts.
Posted by:Gaurav
- 21 Aug, 2009
340:
its a good idea Gaurav....can u plz serach silicon and orkut for any community alreday there, if so we can join there. if not we can build a new comm. not only that...we sould have aphisical existance
ranjoy Replied to: Gaurav
- 21 Aug, 2009
341:
Police should take stringent action against those HRs and PMs.
This has become a regular activity now.
5 days back, my colleagues friend was asked to resign without any reason.
This has become a regular activity now.
5 days back, my colleagues friend was asked to resign without any reason.
Posted by:Sandeep
- 21 Aug, 2009
342:
I am also a Ex-employee of Wipro and i was also forced to resign from the company without any reason.When company needs employee should work without thinking of there personal life.Even if when i was seek i worked for the company late night.But without any reason they forced me to resign..Police should take action against this activities for manager and HR..Few people suisided also for this harasmaemt.
sharmili Replied to: Sandeep
- 21 Aug, 2009
343:
One should start doing this for HR folks also especially middle & senior level who don't care for employees & don't want to see even employee faces. For them these things are fun.
Posted by:Frustrated Wiproite
- 21 Aug, 2009
344:
I'm also one of the victim of wipro and from the same account AXA. I left two years ago when there is no recession and account was growing well by that time. But I left the manager rather wipro, when I say I left manager yes 'course due to the torture. I support Ram to his courage going that far and filed the case against these managers.
Posted by:Ananymous
- 21 Aug, 2009
345:
Now a days, Wipro is reducing the salary of employees by half who are on bench (Non billable without project) for longer time. But that too without any criteria. It is called "Enrichment". Some people who have released from a project just 1 week ago got enrichment. But there are some people who are non-billable for more than 1-2 month are stil getting full salary.
Posted by:Frustrated Wiproit
- 21 Aug, 2009
346:
few of my batchmates were on bench for more than 12 months at strech but they were not put into Enrichment and they were not sacked also... they were paid the full salary for just sitting in the lawn nad sleeping in the dorm
Really Frustrated Wiproite:P Replied to: Frustrated Wiproit
- 21 Aug, 2009
347:
wipro people hire mostly boys, they do not prefer gals since they can compell boys to work with flexibility, by flexibility they actually want an employee to reach office at 8.30 am and ask them to work till 10.30 or 11.00, this is the usual work culture and any person voilating this culture is seen as he has committed henious crime
Posted by:Kapil
- 21 Aug, 2009
348:
This is really shocking. Layoff is not a new funda in IT industry but the way it managed is so pathetic. This may not reflect corporate culture of Wipro but reveals the inexperience of people associated.
If this is the case of a senior professional like Mr. Ram, how do they treat juniors? I am not able to understand why treating human beings like a commodity? Also being citizens of a great country and a mature economy, should we expect more mature HR practices.
People those who are adopting poor HR practices should keep in mind that year 2009 is not the end of world. Recession is going off and by 2010, business will flourish again and all laid off employees will be back to job...but they will never stop propagating their bad experiences...Also in the coming year don't expect to engage a headhunter to call somebody 15 times a month and motivate to quit the current job and join your company. Professionals would have learned a lesson...stay with companies those who are showing humanitarian consideration and not with somebody offers an unrealistic fat cheque
Hi Ram, if what is mentioned in the post is genuine and your complaint is true...I can only say "Don't worry man...be brave and may god bless you to get you justice and a better job very soon"
If this is the case of a senior professional like Mr. Ram, how do they treat juniors? I am not able to understand why treating human beings like a commodity? Also being citizens of a great country and a mature economy, should we expect more mature HR practices.
People those who are adopting poor HR practices should keep in mind that year 2009 is not the end of world. Recession is going off and by 2010, business will flourish again and all laid off employees will be back to job...but they will never stop propagating their bad experiences...Also in the coming year don't expect to engage a headhunter to call somebody 15 times a month and motivate to quit the current job and join your company. Professionals would have learned a lesson...stay with companies those who are showing humanitarian consideration and not with somebody offers an unrealistic fat cheque
Hi Ram, if what is mentioned in the post is genuine and your complaint is true...I can only say "Don't worry man...be brave and may god bless you to get you justice and a better job very soon"
Posted by:Sreekumar J
- 21 Aug, 2009
349:
This is the true of every second IT company in our country. In my 13+ years of my creers not seen HR doing any of its duties and just a tool to execute such un-lawful activites time to time. The HR function completly in-effective everywhere and useless. Worst part is our law is un-mature to stop such practices and still wish him good luck for this initiative. I know even orgnization\'s who force you to resign but since you resigned and not terminated you are not event paid 1 or 3 month\'s salary. There are orgnization who hire to meet fulfill their temporary needs and do not give confirmation. ....its all endless...
This industry has become worst than mentioned below.
This industry has become worst than mentioned below.
Posted by:Santosh
- 21 Aug, 2009
350:
Have you seen any organization deducting tax from stipend...WIPRO does it for freshers...I dont know where the hell the tax goes to..No doubt that by doing such idiotic activities Wipro is generating a huge revenue..Wipro HR behave the worst when people resign......
Posted by:Kumar
- 21 Aug, 2009
351:
Yes ie true.Wipro HR's and Mangers can stand in politics.They excel well for sure
skp Replied to: Kumar
- 21 Aug, 2009
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These F_/_/_/_/R HRs are just suppose to get F_/_/_/_/D.
Sachin K Replied to: skp
- 22 Aug, 2009
353:
BTW, one other thing. And this is what differentiates good companies from bad ones.
IF you are adding good value, but still it goes unnoticed or they start to play with you, then there is something seriously wrong with the org. culture. Either the top people haven't been hired properly or there is weak mgmt. or something. You may end up perennially performing but never noticed. Plus, when you leave they may let you go. What that means is that there is a serious org. problem here. It is not your problem. Its just that you were performing at the wrong place! If the company understands that good people are leaving and they get their act together then good for the company. Else, why would you want to be there anyway, if their vision is clouded
IF you are adding good value, but still it goes unnoticed or they start to play with you, then there is something seriously wrong with the org. culture. Either the top people haven't been hired properly or there is weak mgmt. or something. You may end up perennially performing but never noticed. Plus, when you leave they may let you go. What that means is that there is a serious org. problem here. It is not your problem. Its just that you were performing at the wrong place! If the company understands that good people are leaving and they get their act together then good for the company. Else, why would you want to be there anyway, if their vision is clouded
Posted by:virus
- 21 Aug, 2009
355:
I work for a US based MNC (taking up my first job in India after working in US) and we hire a lot of Wipro contractors. Trust me, Wipro culture is pathetic. There is no open thinking, you can\'t question anything, forget about raising your voice against something you think is wrong. Wipro just creates (mostly, 95% I would say) robots who just take orders blindly and have no thinking of their own.
The Wipro culture can kill one\'s dignity and independent thinking very fast. I am really saddened to see that Wipro one of the foremost technical companies of India. All Wipro is capable of doing is to generate an army of slaves, slaves who just take orders from clients and unfortunately generate tons of money for Mr Premzi.
And the funniest (in fact worrisome) thing I have heard lately is that Azim Premzi foundation wants to set up a university specifically meant to churn out capable educators for upliftment of society. Given Wipro culture, my fear is that it will churn out a generation of educators who will train the new generation in rote learning/ obeying your seniors (yes men) like most of Wipro employees are right now. I sincerely pray their mission fails.
The Wipro culture can kill one\'s dignity and independent thinking very fast. I am really saddened to see that Wipro one of the foremost technical companies of India. All Wipro is capable of doing is to generate an army of slaves, slaves who just take orders from clients and unfortunately generate tons of money for Mr Premzi.
And the funniest (in fact worrisome) thing I have heard lately is that Azim Premzi foundation wants to set up a university specifically meant to churn out capable educators for upliftment of society. Given Wipro culture, my fear is that it will churn out a generation of educators who will train the new generation in rote learning/ obeying your seniors (yes men) like most of Wipro employees are right now. I sincerely pray their mission fails.
Posted by:Anonymous
- 21 Aug, 2009
356:
unfortunately two MNCs failed for me bcoz of work culture. Remember, a lot of these wipro trained guys end up in other companies and start cloning more of them there ...
plus, it is really unfortunate that people really don't think for themselves or "independantly". I guess it is our educational and social system, where we only learn to obey and keep mum when everything is going wrong ...
plus, it is really unfortunate that people really don't think for themselves or "independantly". I guess it is our educational and social system, where we only learn to obey and keep mum when everything is going wrong ...
virus Replied to: Anonymous
- 21 Aug, 2009
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Jeez...virus you really are pathetic huh?
w@r10ck Replied to: virus
- 21 Aug, 2009
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It has happened to me on couple occasions now in India. I have worked both here and abroad. I see these kind of unethical and unprofessional practices only here.I had considerable yrs of experience and performed very well. I also have top qualification from abroad. All these don't deter some self-styled mgmt chaps from behaving unethically.While it is difficult to sue them in India, we can take their ass in the US.
Here is my view:
It is ok for companies to make profit. That is why they exist. It is ok for employees also to make profit. An employee is like a mini biz. inside a company. The company goes for better profits, the employee too should go for better profits. Makes immense sense. If you add value ( not your perception, but from the companies perception), then you get paid more. If you add value, where no one else can, chances are you will be treated and paid well. Likewise, if the employees find the company valuable, it means they get paid well, are treated well and have growth prospects. If there is a more valuable company elsewhere, then employees go there.
If at any point of time he/she feels that the culture doesn't suit him, or there is harassment or he feels generally uncomfortable or his growth is compromised inspite of his performance etc, he should simply look elsewhere. There is no point thrusting yourself on the company when you aren't needed or you are being treated unfairly. Its a clear case of capitalism.
If you think that you need to be pampered by companies with no accountability and periodic promotions etc. etc. then you should look in the public sector. But they won't pay you there. Thats the flip side.
But in any case I will agree that the employer should atleast treat the employees with decency and courtesy. So should the employees.
I would also like to add another hasty bit here. Employees in India should learn to act professionally. They should keep their work timings without going overboard. I see employees working for ever as if it is a one sided thing. Will the company pay you more/overtime for you efforts ? But for some reason Indians love to throw themselves over each other to prove some stupid point. In the process, they not only harm the general work culture, but they harm themselves too.
If a company has contracted with you for a five day week, then the moment they talk of increasing it, just leave the place. Will they pay you for one additional day? A salary is like a contract. Ofcourse, if you are willing then you can take a cut. But if you aren't, I'd suggest you leave.
But for the case under consideration, why would you want to be at Wipro if this is the state of affairs? If my mgr/mgmt shows attitude this way, I'd simply give them notice and leave. Go where you are treated well and valued. That is my advice to all. Don't compromise your self-respect and self-worth. It is not worth it. You have potential. Go prove yourself somewhere else where you are liked and wanted. Quite likely you may shine fantastically someplace else.
Giving an example of Jamie Dimon who was Sr. Exec at citigroup. He was asked to resign bcoz he hadn't promoted the promoters daughter! He walked out and joined a small bank in Chicago. Now he heads JPMorgan Chase, and citigroup is in ruins! Sweet revenge. The stuff that you talk about happens at every level. Only we don't get to hear about the top levels so often. Plus, they are usually compensated and asked to leave quitely...
Like I said it is capitalism.
Here is my view:
It is ok for companies to make profit. That is why they exist. It is ok for employees also to make profit. An employee is like a mini biz. inside a company. The company goes for better profits, the employee too should go for better profits. Makes immense sense. If you add value ( not your perception, but from the companies perception), then you get paid more. If you add value, where no one else can, chances are you will be treated and paid well. Likewise, if the employees find the company valuable, it means they get paid well, are treated well and have growth prospects. If there is a more valuable company elsewhere, then employees go there.
If at any point of time he/she feels that the culture doesn't suit him, or there is harassment or he feels generally uncomfortable or his growth is compromised inspite of his performance etc, he should simply look elsewhere. There is no point thrusting yourself on the company when you aren't needed or you are being treated unfairly. Its a clear case of capitalism.
If you think that you need to be pampered by companies with no accountability and periodic promotions etc. etc. then you should look in the public sector. But they won't pay you there. Thats the flip side.
But in any case I will agree that the employer should atleast treat the employees with decency and courtesy. So should the employees.
I would also like to add another hasty bit here. Employees in India should learn to act professionally. They should keep their work timings without going overboard. I see employees working for ever as if it is a one sided thing. Will the company pay you more/overtime for you efforts ? But for some reason Indians love to throw themselves over each other to prove some stupid point. In the process, they not only harm the general work culture, but they harm themselves too.
If a company has contracted with you for a five day week, then the moment they talk of increasing it, just leave the place. Will they pay you for one additional day? A salary is like a contract. Ofcourse, if you are willing then you can take a cut. But if you aren't, I'd suggest you leave.
But for the case under consideration, why would you want to be at Wipro if this is the state of affairs? If my mgr/mgmt shows attitude this way, I'd simply give them notice and leave. Go where you are treated well and valued. That is my advice to all. Don't compromise your self-respect and self-worth. It is not worth it. You have potential. Go prove yourself somewhere else where you are liked and wanted. Quite likely you may shine fantastically someplace else.
Giving an example of Jamie Dimon who was Sr. Exec at citigroup. He was asked to resign bcoz he hadn't promoted the promoters daughter! He walked out and joined a small bank in Chicago. Now he heads JPMorgan Chase, and citigroup is in ruins! Sweet revenge. The stuff that you talk about happens at every level. Only we don't get to hear about the top levels so often. Plus, they are usually compensated and asked to leave quitely...
Like I said it is capitalism.
Posted by:Virus
- 21 Aug, 2009
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Virus - May I have your email ID please? Please get in touch at jams78@rediffmail.com if you could.
Jay Replied to: Virus
- 23 Aug, 2009
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After going through all the comments your comment on this subject really makes some sense. Thanks to you.
Roger Replied to: Virus
- 22 Aug, 2009
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2 Questions ...
- Will a UNION work and give results ? Has it given results in other places. (I am asking).
- How do we go about Forming such a Union. Please note some facts below from my experience that such experiences are International and not just in India.
I have suffered the same a while back in a MNC (Non-IT core) but sacked from IT inspite of working in a Organization for more than 15 years ... I was a Senior Manager in Internal I.T ... inspite of being well technically qualified for the position. The Issue is not just Management in India, but everywhere and in my Case it was a Management decision LED by Australians / Americans who were Managing the Directors in India. Many Juniors were upset I left suddenly without informing and they still remember me as a person with knowledge, but I could not tell them what happened and was only focussing on getting my next job.
The incident led to conclude that Managements everywhere are the same. They form a Lobby and instead of making choices in reducing cost like reducing everyone's salary or not paying Variables ... they make such choices first to save their own salaries and positions. This is something that is even taught in every MBA School to control costs so I can partly understand. I only have a Problem with the choices organizations make in letting experienced people go away instead of choosing to reduce salaries temporarily for everyone in the company INCLUDING CEO which sounds more fair. It's like in the home, when income is down, everyone cuts cost to live together in harmony. But sadly we don't live in such a world.
- Will a UNION work and give results ? Has it given results in other places. (I am asking).
- How do we go about Forming such a Union. Please note some facts below from my experience that such experiences are International and not just in India.
I have suffered the same a while back in a MNC (Non-IT core) but sacked from IT inspite of working in a Organization for more than 15 years ... I was a Senior Manager in Internal I.T ... inspite of being well technically qualified for the position. The Issue is not just Management in India, but everywhere and in my Case it was a Management decision LED by Australians / Americans who were Managing the Directors in India. Many Juniors were upset I left suddenly without informing and they still remember me as a person with knowledge, but I could not tell them what happened and was only focussing on getting my next job.
The incident led to conclude that Managements everywhere are the same. They form a Lobby and instead of making choices in reducing cost like reducing everyone's salary or not paying Variables ... they make such choices first to save their own salaries and positions. This is something that is even taught in every MBA School to control costs so I can partly understand. I only have a Problem with the choices organizations make in letting experienced people go away instead of choosing to reduce salaries temporarily for everyone in the company INCLUDING CEO which sounds more fair. It's like in the home, when income is down, everyone cuts cost to live together in harmony. But sadly we don't live in such a world.
Posted by:AMat_IT
- 21 Aug, 2009
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Yes, I think so. We can have a virtual IT union (using the net), and can grind these companies to a halt if they misbehave. It is easier in IT, since it is labor intensive :).
The company performance is directly proportion to employee productivity. There are no machines here that someone else can take over. Plus, the jobs can be quite complex too, and they aren't assembly line that you can hire someone and fit them someplace :).
So..., the answer is a resounding yes. It just needs to be implemented correctly. :) and make sure that mgmt. doesn't have their stooges there :).
The company performance is directly proportion to employee productivity. There are no machines here that someone else can take over. Plus, the jobs can be quite complex too, and they aren't assembly line that you can hire someone and fit them someplace :).
So..., the answer is a resounding yes. It just needs to be implemented correctly. :) and make sure that mgmt. doesn't have their stooges there :).
Virus Replied to: AMat_IT
- 21 Aug, 2009
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Yes what you say is true. The Machines are the People or Human Capital as it is always called. I know they have Labour Unions in many part of Europe that are so strong that closing a Factory is a costly decision for Management. I think it also applies to IT. Management only understand the language of Money. So what is needed is a Union which has a mechanism that works on money grounds and never humanitarian or emotional for these capitalists.
Amat Replied to: Virus
- 21 Aug, 2009
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Amat and Virus(whats yours real name?)...I fully agree to ur view....we sgould gather more ITits to our forum...I am thinking of creating a It community...which will have a physical existance like other professional organization like ICAI, AMIE etc. what u guys say
ranjoy Replied to: Virus
- 21 Aug, 2009
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Quote
We have a very robust process
this is BSht thie process is called OMBUDSMAN here. I have filed complaint against my manager here nothing happened.
QUOTE
We have not had any complaints of this nature ever before
People who get offers else where just leave eagerly and dont care to complaint about the racism / Politics and Favouritism here.
I was given an NI (Needs Improvement) here for this apprai
REASON ? My manager and my technical manager dont like me as I geninnely communicate ideas and point what is wrong.
My other team mates who have altogether done only 50 percent of the work have been given EE (Exceeds expectation). Today is my last day in this project. reason given for sacking me out of this project is another BS reason some bulge mix etc
Spirit of Wipro
My manager is constantly suggesting me to search another job etc. Even after explaining the amount of work done for this project, My TM retorted back that ratings given cant be changed.
Poeple who are happy here either because they are getting a higher pay . or they are fit for nothing else.
Intensity to win
People who talk against managers or higher ups would be screwed. there is lot of politics and favouritism here. Be a localite and you would win whereever here.
Applied innovations
This company is best suited for managers who come with their laptops, bluff about things that they didnt even know or experiment. I have even heard them give explanations to clients about our projects, things that we have never immagined that were there in our ODC. You should see how clients are buttered and taken around here.
Act with sensitivity
I came to wipro on 2006 from a small company just thinking that i would be part of a large system and i would learn many things. I was even cheated by the HR giving me a meage pay and telling that I would be given a 40% hike within 2 months of joining. I dont think anyone would join wipro for lure of money, unless he is a maneger and wants onsite and retired life.
Politics / racism and favouriteism is the worst here. There is no value for technical knowledge or honesty. If your manager is an asdhhgfdewrt and if he doesnt like you, thats all you are screwed.
The only way to survive here is
1. Know to bluff about stuffs that you havent even worked upon.
2. Please your manager/s.
3. Added advantage of your manager is from local place and if you belong to that same place.
I However pray that wipro gets good projects and the company prospers as there are many of us whoes life is dependent on the salary we get.
God help us.
We have a very robust process
this is BSht thie process is called OMBUDSMAN here. I have filed complaint against my manager here nothing happened.
QUOTE
We have not had any complaints of this nature ever before
People who get offers else where just leave eagerly and dont care to complaint about the racism / Politics and Favouritism here.
I was given an NI (Needs Improvement) here for this apprai
REASON ? My manager and my technical manager dont like me as I geninnely communicate ideas and point what is wrong.
My other team mates who have altogether done only 50 percent of the work have been given EE (Exceeds expectation). Today is my last day in this project. reason given for sacking me out of this project is another BS reason some bulge mix etc
Spirit of Wipro
My manager is constantly suggesting me to search another job etc. Even after explaining the amount of work done for this project, My TM retorted back that ratings given cant be changed.
Poeple who are happy here either because they are getting a higher pay . or they are fit for nothing else.
Intensity to win
People who talk against managers or higher ups would be screwed. there is lot of politics and favouritism here. Be a localite and you would win whereever here.
Applied innovations
This company is best suited for managers who come with their laptops, bluff about things that they didnt even know or experiment. I have even heard them give explanations to clients about our projects, things that we have never immagined that were there in our ODC. You should see how clients are buttered and taken around here.
Act with sensitivity
I came to wipro on 2006 from a small company just thinking that i would be part of a large system and i would learn many things. I was even cheated by the HR giving me a meage pay and telling that I would be given a 40% hike within 2 months of joining. I dont think anyone would join wipro for lure of money, unless he is a maneger and wants onsite and retired life.
Politics / racism and favouriteism is the worst here. There is no value for technical knowledge or honesty. If your manager is an asdhhgfdewrt and if he doesnt like you, thats all you are screwed.
The only way to survive here is
1. Know to bluff about stuffs that you havent even worked upon.
2. Please your manager/s.
3. Added advantage of your manager is from local place and if you belong to that same place.
I However pray that wipro gets good projects and the company prospers as there are many of us whoes life is dependent on the salary we get.
God help us.
Posted by:unknown
- 21 Aug, 2009
367:
I perfectly agree with you "Unknown".
They mess out on the Appraisal System completely and then these idiots tell that the ratings cant be changed and it would be taken care of in the next cycle . Nothing good happens in the next cycle also..Wipro managers talk about integrity. They are the ones who breach the integrity every now and then. the manager gels well with people from his community. they pair up and then make strategies to work against ppl who don't belong to their community. Wipro sucks. I don't think prem ji is aware of all this.
They mess out on the Appraisal System completely and then these idiots tell that the ratings cant be changed and it would be taken care of in the next cycle . Nothing good happens in the next cycle also..Wipro managers talk about integrity. They are the ones who breach the integrity every now and then. the manager gels well with people from his community. they pair up and then make strategies to work against ppl who don't belong to their community. Wipro sucks. I don't think prem ji is aware of all this.
Sagar Replied to: unknown
- 21 Aug, 2009
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This is absolutely right. I know of several guys facing similar situations. TED is like a monster. In wipro ur ass depends only on ur rapport with ur immediate boss. -- Simply pathetic
Posted by:D B Roy
- 21 Aug, 2009
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Perfectly Agreed Guys, I was in wipro until last year... my apprisal for 2007-08 got me (EE) overall, was having nearly 5 Years of experience by the time i left wipro, Being in Onsite i asked for band change, as per the HR i was not having enough experience to get the Band changed to B2, But two of my collegues got nearly 3 years of experience have got B2 Band... It is rediculous, really a shit place to work, no ethics, poor management, no professionalism, only Favouritism...Infact we call for Omsbud in Wipro for our manager but nothing really happened... I had joined wipro with lot of dream but to be honest its not a place where a person can enjoy unless he/she have one god father in higher management..... :( no heart feelings, but we should really form a community or group/blog where a person can share their experience and will directly get reported to the Government/Nasscom Officials which should take action against it. Not sure how far to go, all the very best "Ram"
Lucky Replied to: D B Roy
- 21 Aug, 2009
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Ram what you are doing is very correct. We are all with you. The main problem for S/W field employess we didnot have registered Employee union or forum. These companies are playing games with Techies Lifes. How we are hardworked in colleges..but at the time coming to Job there is no personal value..S/W comapnies always try to get profits only...Even they have backup amount to give salaries they are giving priority to layoffs only.If an employee is unbillable without considering what they earned at the time of biilable of an employee.they simply laid off...this is one bad nature of entire S/W industry...I hate such type mentality of This Industry..
Posted by:Venkatmani
- 21 Aug, 2009
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Gautham You are very correct....People like Arvind are not correct in S/W field..Our Indian always thinking about decency...But S/W companies will not think about decency.I am Asking one question Regarding Decency in S/W field?Which Company following Decency....Laidoff employees when they didnot get profits..Is it Decency Arvind? If you can get laidoff from one company without notice at that time you will understand meaning of Decency. I will tell onething Entire S/W field is depend upon indians..if Indian will not be Decent then There is No S/W field in this World...
Posted by:Venkatmani
- 21 Aug, 2009
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this is so true .... i have seen this, believe me, they have no care for employee. If you dont believe, google the term "enrich programme wipro " and then you will know it. One thing is for sure.....its cutting its own legs and making the grave ready ..........I guess Azim bhai doesnt know all this, he has to deal only with money...........
God please those guys ( no gals as they are not sacked)....
God please those guys ( no gals as they are not sacked)....
Posted by:chinmay
- 21 Aug, 2009
373:
laid off workers / employees should start IT union. IT has already reaches its peak. There is no scope. In the coming years, more than 1 crore will lose jobs. Start a virtual IT union.
Posted by:ajish
- 21 Aug, 2009
374:
I hate organizations like NASSCOM. Many companies threaten people with blacklisting them with NASSCOM. NASSCOM should be illegalized.it's high time that people in IT sector should form a UNION. The management in boom time always say "IT's your company please work hard" and fill money in their pockets but when times are bad they say " It's my company i will do watever it takes to defend". That's y USA is better and i wanna migrate there. There recession is for everybody many financial sector CEO's are now drawing salaries like USD 1/months USD 2/month. Can neone who is speaking in favour of greedy management of companies name 3 good companies say with a revenue of above 200 crores whose CEO's were terminated in this recession. Recession should be for everybody employee, management.
Posted by:vikas
- 21 Aug, 2009
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I hate organizations like NASSCOM. Many companies threaten people with blacklisting them with NASSCOM. NASSCOM should be illegalized.it\'s high time that people in IT sector should form a UNION. The management in boom time always say \"IT\'s your company please work hard\" and fill money in their pockets but when times are bad they say \" It\'s my company i will do watever it takes to defend\". That\'s y USA is better and i wanna migrate there. There recession is for everybody many financial sector CEO\'s are now drawing salaries like USD 1/months USD 2/month. Can neone who is speaking in favour of greedy management of companies name 3 good companies say with a revenue of above 200 crores who were terminated in this recession. Recession should be for everybody employee, management.
Posted by:vikas
- 21 Aug, 2009
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How many of you know that Mr. Ram Manohar was a performer and company is proud to have an employee like this or its other wise company is just spending on him even though he was not performing. all you people have your own views and thoughts which is well said in the comments, but how relavant is when employees are asking for baseless hikes, benefits.
How many techies have gone for the interview on time when a consultant have schedule them for an interview,any idea on what basis employees ask for 30 to 50 % hike every year with out updating their skills.
So please think about every aspect
How many techies have gone for the interview on time when a consultant have schedule them for an interview,any idea on what basis employees ask for 30 to 50 % hike every year with out updating their skills.
So please think about every aspect
Posted by:raji
- 21 Aug, 2009
377:
There's a difference between laying off or firing a person and forcing him to resign. Firing someone requires cause, so you have to document the issues, build a case. Laying off a person requires payment of severance.
Forcing someone to resign is the easy way out for the company, because you don't have to do either of the above -- no need to spend weeks building a case _and_ you don't lose any money. And it's also a low-down, dirty and unprofessional thing to do.
Forcing someone to resign is the easy way out for the company, because you don't have to do either of the above -- no need to spend weeks building a case _and_ you don't lose any money. And it's also a low-down, dirty and unprofessional thing to do.
BobW Replied to: raji
- 21 Aug, 2009
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Agree.. Also consider this, what if Ram has suddenly got another good job and would have disappeard
Sachi Replied to: raji
- 21 Aug, 2009
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Raji...I dont know if you have exp with wipro or not..I have ...u r talking about updating skills...in wipro just ask ur supervisor about training ...you'll get ur answers...one can learn from ourself but tht has limit. I have very fair exp with wipro , Being a wiprotie means you have to be very good buttering master, u have to be good bluffmaster and u have to be a good cheater. thts it....
Watchfire Replied to: raji
- 21 Aug, 2009
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how many people are taken here and with the same experience or less getting double the salary ?
Think about every aspect.
This guy only knows one side of the ASPECT
Think about every aspect.
This guy only knows one side of the ASPECT
www Replied to: raji
- 21 Aug, 2009
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Seems u r from HR domain...
How many times have you updated ur skills...?
How many times have you updated ur skills...?
Prash Replied to: raji
- 21 Aug, 2009
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this is only a one sided view.... might be unaware with real world
RCS Replied to: raji
- 21 Aug, 2009
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I have worked both from consultant side as recruiter and from employers side as HR, so much more aware about the employees demands and employers capacity to pay.And have seen potential candidate respecting the employer when they are in need of job and blackmailing when they get other offer in hand
raji Replied to: RCS
- 21 Aug, 2009
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Raji u seem to have very little experience about the corporate stuff inspite of ur such an esteemed experience..
Money is never the first criteria to leave a job its always ppl like you who balme techies for not updating their skills before a market correction. Though very well knowing that there isnt even a proper internet connection in the opffice to update skills.
Money is never the first criteria to leave a job its always ppl like you who balme techies for not updating their skills before a market correction. Though very well knowing that there isnt even a proper internet connection in the opffice to update skills.
utsav Replied to: raji
- 21 Aug, 2009
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In so many years what I have learned is there is only one equation that rules in the world "Demand and Supply".
In boom time, employees get benefited.
In recession, companies are taking undue advantage of the current situation.
In boom time, employees get benefited.
In recession, companies are taking undue advantage of the current situation.
guru Replied to: raji
- 21 Aug, 2009
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I brought your point but how fair is to ask for irrelevant hike when you are not eligible for what you are asking for.
I have seen people asking for 30 % hike after 6 month working in a company and looking for change so demand is there where the supply is. Do you think working in company for 6 month is enough have they learnt enough?
I have seen people asking for 30 % hike after 6 month working in a company and looking for change so demand is there where the supply is. Do you think working in company for 6 month is enough have they learnt enough?
raji Replied to: guru
- 21 Aug, 2009
387:
If company is making profits, it can give any number of %. 30 %. 50 %, 100 %,,,,, etc. On the other side, they can reduce the salary in recession time, instead of following such a pracises. Lot of companies followed this pracise by taking employee's into confidence.
It is only in WIPRO that people are forcibly told to resign without giving any reason. The fall of WIPRO empire is started. It will collapse soon.
As I said it is the Demand and Supply equation. Company doesn't give hike by employee pressure. Its a business.
It is only in WIPRO that people are forcibly told to resign without giving any reason. The fall of WIPRO empire is started. It will collapse soon.
As I said it is the Demand and Supply equation. Company doesn't give hike by employee pressure. Its a business.
guru Replied to: raji
- 21 Aug, 2009
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First of all a techie does not mean that he has to know all the programs existing in this world. I do not know everything neither do you. Nor I believe that i am supposed to everything. TECHIE is a person who is well versed with the basic technology and can learn as per the requirements of the clients or organization. You mean to say if one learns Oracle thinking its good and he wants to pursue a career in to it. When he is hired by a company, though he wants to work on oracle we will be give something else. Are you at all aware of this
And to you Mr. Raji, you are absolutely right we do not know about Mr. Ram Manohar, but on the contrary we do not know you too. Are you efficient & a performer in you organization? By what you read in the above article and wrote, to me it seems NO.
A a piece of sane advice, Next time you change your company don't ask for a hike at all. In fact stay in the same company with the same salary. Forever
And to you Mr. Raji, you are absolutely right we do not know about Mr. Ram Manohar, but on the contrary we do not know you too. Are you efficient & a performer in you organization? By what you read in the above article and wrote, to me it seems NO.
A a piece of sane advice, Next time you change your company don't ask for a hike at all. In fact stay in the same company with the same salary. Forever
Vinu Replied to: raji
- 14 Nov, 2009
389:
Four of My fellow colleague who were recruited from campus of one of the Premier MBA institute in india, last november, are still not been honored with joining. Every 15 days these people call the Wipro HR and Every time the response is same that they will definitely give them joining in next 10 days. Because of hope to join wipro they did not sit for any other companies next visited in campus nor did they apply else where. This is the situation where companies are almost destroying the career's of young and fresh MBA Graduates and Wipro is not the only company which does that, but there are many who have done are still doing it.
"I think union RAJ was better which nailed these kind of employers"
"I think union RAJ was better which nailed these kind of employers"
Posted by:Anupam
- 21 Aug, 2009
390:
Sadly, insipte of studying through one of the Premier MBA institute in india, the above mentioned guys(w.ref. to,"Because of hope to join wipro they did not sit for any other companies next visited in campus nor did they apply else where") did not keep any plan B or rather C open for themselves. Do they really deserve to join such organisation.
Raj Replied to: Anupam
- 21 Aug, 2009
391:
If you look at infosys, they behave properly unlike wipro. Even though wipro saved some money by illegally sacking its employees, it will never gain back trust from the people.
If i get chance in future to outsource work, being an wiproite i never give that project to wipro.
If i get chance in future to outsource work, being an wiproite i never give that project to wipro.
Posted by:rakesh
- 21 Aug, 2009
392:
i Totaly aggry with u wipro is killing there owm employees
ibrahim Replied to: rakesh
- 21 Aug, 2009
393:
This seems be true, because wipro is such an ediot company. i worked at wipro and it indeed behaved badly at my exit time. All managers (except few) behaves professionally and the HR in wipro are the worst..they never take decesions themselves...
If you ask me "whether i would work in wipro" then i am happy to say " I would kill myself if I woke up one morning and realized that i am working for wipro".
HR doesn't behave well, they are puppets of senior managers. They don't have guts.
If you ask me "whether i would work in wipro" then i am happy to say " I would kill myself if I woke up one morning and realized that i am working for wipro".
HR doesn't behave well, they are puppets of senior managers. They don't have guts.
Posted by:Rakesh
- 21 Aug, 2009
394:
I think employees should stop switching organisations for the lure of money or whatsoever. When they start switching organisations, this is where they end up.
Posted by:anvesh
- 21 Aug, 2009
395:
As u sow - so u beget.
When people run behind money, and money becomes criteria, these things can happen. Some companies lure people with large money, people become greedy and fall for it.
How was this Ram's performance? There is no mention abt that. Company may have tolerated a person because there is a lack of resource in the market. When times are bad, bad apples fall off the trees!
I have known employees who blackmail companies into giving higher salary or they will quit. Companies spend huge money or salaries, training, recreation, on these employees. After working for 3 years, they start looking out. Imagine what happens to the company's resources. Maybe companies should also file complaints against employees for blackmailing.
Some IT people are paid too much beyond their skills. People don't complain, why will they. But when company reduces pay, people are up in arms. Then they talk of labour laws, respect etc etc
Well, the company may or may not face problems, but employees will be more harmed if they don't perform.
When people run behind money, and money becomes criteria, these things can happen. Some companies lure people with large money, people become greedy and fall for it.
How was this Ram's performance? There is no mention abt that. Company may have tolerated a person because there is a lack of resource in the market. When times are bad, bad apples fall off the trees!
I have known employees who blackmail companies into giving higher salary or they will quit. Companies spend huge money or salaries, training, recreation, on these employees. After working for 3 years, they start looking out. Imagine what happens to the company's resources. Maybe companies should also file complaints against employees for blackmailing.
Some IT people are paid too much beyond their skills. People don't complain, why will they. But when company reduces pay, people are up in arms. Then they talk of labour laws, respect etc etc
Well, the company may or may not face problems, but employees will be more harmed if they don't perform.
Posted by:Manoj
- 21 Aug, 2009
396:
I donot agree with you Manoj. Employees are right in demanding higher salary when they are grossly underpaid. Companies earn in USD but pay in INR. As domain expert, I have prepared proposals, SOWs. Testers/ analyst programmers in S'pore are billed at the rate of SGD 12,000 and paid a meagre SGD 2,000- 2,500. You do not get more that a 700 sqft 2 bedroom Govt. flat in that salary. What has increased the misery is no hike in salary though they had the advantage of we making the first Business Operating Model for the shipping industry leading to client mining.
Nish Replied to: Manoj
- 21 Aug, 2009
397:
What Manoj..I think you are very poor to know behind the screens of any S/W Company. S/W Companies first look at its Profits only..after that it is giving importance to employee life..Security..Salary& etc what you have mentioned for all. And you must learn something reagarding financial deals of any company...For one Employee any company will give 1/3of what they getting from Client and for giving Salary to one employee they will get reduction in their Income Tax from Government for providing employment...So now you can tell Who is profitor here?
Venkatmani Replied to: Manoj
- 21 Aug, 2009
398:
But harassment cannot be tolerated ...
Shijo Replied to: Manoj
- 21 Aug, 2009
399:
Wipro will not see for performance. HR people has some target (Removing people). But the HR team is too harsh to the employees I also face the same issue what Ram faced. They can say like "we are not in a position to pay you" So that employee can resign himself but they are treating people like there servants. I hate Wipro culture and people over there. I will not agree with you it is all stupid.
anil Replied to: Manoj
- 21 Aug, 2009
400:
Manoj I think you are nor belongs to IT that''s why its just so ur jelous to high paid IT employee.if company gets 100 rs from client then she gives only around 10-20 rs to employee.As u mentioned about job switch ,this thing happens in every sector not in IT.This is not the community which gives moral thoughts so think first and then comment.as per other sectores in india they really jelous with IT people.and felt many times when i travelled in train or flight.
what kind sick mentality is this,same on these kind of people.
what kind sick mentality is this,same on these kind of people.
IT employee Replied to: Manoj
- 21 Aug, 2009
401:
Dear friend, Your comments are complete B.S. During bad times company like Wipro can survive but what about the guy who was laid off. Secondly no company will recruit a person if he is not good.
Srikanth Replied to: Manoj
- 21 Aug, 2009
402:
first off all let me tel u one thing companyes did not make people But people made companyes the person u has done this thing of harassment should be put behind BARS and HR to
ibrahim Replied to: Srikanth
- 21 Aug, 2009
403:
a person need not be bad at the time of joining...he can be picking up an attitude later..
w@r10ck Replied to: Srikanth
- 21 Aug, 2009
404:
Shut up.... Its because of people like you Indians are treated like shit.. And dogs by emplyoeers.
Do you know how much they bill clients?
They might give me 50k but they take 5 lacs from clients ..
Just go jump in a well than to give your stupid opinon.
Do you know how much they bill clients?
They might give me 50k but they take 5 lacs from clients ..
Just go jump in a well than to give your stupid opinon.
Goutham Replied to: Manoj
- 21 Aug, 2009
405:
You are absolutely right Goutham .... Am with you...
Shijo Replied to: Goutham
- 21 Aug, 2009
406:
Goutham, you just spoke your mind. YOu do not seem to be educated and you do not seem to have any etiquette or any command over language. Nor do you understand business.
It is not because of people like Manoj that Indians are treated differently. It is because of people like you, who do not have any decency.
Now it is clear who should jump into the well.
It is not because of people like Manoj that Indians are treated differently. It is because of people like you, who do not have any decency.
Now it is clear who should jump into the well.
Arvind Replied to: Goutham
- 21 Aug, 2009
407:
ok..they might give you 10%...but do you really think that's the only cost of keeping you in the company? if it was to give you the whole 5lacs, why dont you go ahead and meet the client directly...am sure they'll pay you 5 lac:)
w@r10ck Replied to: Goutham
- 21 Aug, 2009
409:
The H.R People work in the favour of the company.There is nothing do they screw the employ.There are some facts hidden but not revealed.It happens not only with wipro,most of companys do the same
Posted by:kiran
- 21 Aug, 2009
410:
The HR Personnel at Wipro and the others concerned should be taken to task. People at senior levels do club up together against people/person for various reasons. Even if the HR is informed, they just sit there with their eyes closed pretending not to have seen or heard anything. Anyways when have the HR in any organisation stood for the employee. They are always by the Managementand pretend to take your side and help you. This is anyways a known fact. It is just that this guy has been bold enough to have exposed the incident.
Posted by:Sunila
- 21 Aug, 2009
411:
I am not from a IT background nor from a engineering background, you can say from a common backgound. Just want to post my comment, I have always seen in many orgranizaion that whenever there is a problem like recession or economic slow down it is always the people down the line is affected why not the people at the top.
Venkat Replied to: Sunila
- 21 Aug, 2009
412:
I am sure this is the HR de facto standard for dealing with employees who dare ask questions. It is just that ram manohar is the first person to go public on this issue. Most certainly it is not an isolated case to be swept under the carpet which is what Mr Govil is trying to do.
Posted by:anand
- 21 Aug, 2009
413:
Yes.These type of bad treatment happended to many people.Indian government should enforce strict and stringent laws against these type of corporate harassments.These type of activities are always shame to civilized society.It looks like wipro(+ some other MNC) HR's are behaving worser that the deadliest habitual offenders.
laloo Replied to: anand
- 21 Aug, 2009
414:
This is always happened in the offices if you question they will just sack with out any reason. This is just happened with Mr. Ram Manohar who is really brave to go to public on this issue. Wipro should give him at least 10 lacs rupees when sacked him without any reason.
Arindam Mitra Replied to: anand
- 21 Aug, 2009
415:
This is really bad.....these things should not happen in company like Wipro..don't know y they r doing like this.
Posted by:Rajesh Chowdary
- 21 Aug, 2009
416:
Where are you ... These and a lot more happen in Wipro.
aaa Replied to: Rajesh Chowdary
- 21 Aug, 2009
417:
Correct
Wipro is doing all these things...
Wipro is doing all these things...
Shyam Benegal Replied to: aaa
- 21 Aug, 2009
418:
I believe this is not first time.always used to happend in WIPRO before recission started.Most of the people scaring for thier threatening and looking forward for other jobs since don't wanna take risk in real scenario.these all depends on HR and PM n they don't see how we good at work.. don't know when it will change the policies in Wipro.everyone will scare to join in wipro if it continue like this
Gangadhar Replied to: Rajesh Chowdary
- 21 Aug, 2009
419:
I don't think this kind of issue is there only in wipro,most of the stupid IT company's all are doing., when IT is started, there is no value for Employee rights/Labour rules,they have to work like animals, no limitation for work, no timings, no rules,when they need the manpower,they are ready to pay at any cost, but when they dont want, they use to behave like this... just this is an example , there might be so many hidden cases like this, there is no govenment in India to ask like these issues. When USA wants to outsource, we have to accept,when they dont want, when they want to stop,stupid USA IT companys were spoiled the Indian Economy, Until unless stop begging from US , we cannot improve.!
Venkat Replied to: Rajesh Chowdary
- 21 Aug, 2009
420:
hope the salary that these "stupid companies" were offering did not bother you.
w@r10ck Replied to: Venkat
- 21 Aug, 2009
421:
1995:-- Madiwala, a Bangalore suburb filled with industrial workers
2009: -- Madiwala filled with software professionals filling like pigs in dingy 2 bed room flats with 6 people.
Talk about high salaries in software
2009: -- Madiwala filled with software professionals filling like pigs in dingy 2 bed room flats with 6 people.
Talk about high salaries in software
Sujith Babu Replied to: w@r10ck
- 21 Aug, 2009
422:
Rajesh, I think these kind of things should not happen in any company.
Manish Bhandari Replied to: Rajesh Chowdary
- 21 Aug, 2009
423:
Ram is right in his comments, employs have been sacked by wipro on a daily basis. They didn't remove employee in bulk as a result the news was not reveled in the market. HR people threaten employee's of termination if they don't resign and again if employee resist they threaten of black listing the name in Nasscom and ruin the career.
Kumar Replied to: Manish Bhandari
- 21 Aug, 2009
424:
Ram i am sure there will be thousands of ex-wmployee's to back you. Wipro is really screwing up career's of employees.
kumar Replied to: Kumar
- 21 Aug, 2009
425:
Lot of Senior Employees are sacked by this pracise only.
WIPRO is a big bubble in software industry.
It is a "Raat gayi Baat gayi Approach"
WIPRO is a big bubble in software industry.
It is a "Raat gayi Baat gayi Approach"
Raju Replied to: Manish Bhandari
- 21 Aug, 2009
426:
This is one of the stupid issue.And these things are common in WIPRO.Even in the recruitment there are lot of corruption involved in wipro.And it has been proved
SAI KEERTHI Replied to: Raju
- 21 Aug, 2009
427:
Very true about wipro, even i heard people are SCARED to join Wipro for so many reason(s).. am not sure how much it is true, but HR of wipro have to build their better repo about company's work culture..
Pravin Replied to: SAI KEERTHI
- 21 Aug, 2009
428:
But as he complained lets see what ll happen at last the truth we can see.....
Syed Replied to: Pravin
- 21 Aug, 2009
429:
Due to this corruptions wrong people is selected in company .company would be losings lot of money and time on this people . Due to this at time recession he would be fired . . Just selecting a wrong people you will be losing all the fame and money .Who is the responsible for all this Corrupt HR's
Raj Replied to: Pravin
- 21 Aug, 2009
430:
Even one of my friend in siemens got sacked the same way. Their PL , HR got togther in a conference room and sacked about 150 employees and asked them to resign. In compensation they paid only 3 months of salary. I don't know but these companies are treating the employees like a use and throw thing. They should respect them cauz by the end of the day we are all humans and we should show humanity and give respect to each other.
Tarun Replied to: Raj
- 21 Aug, 2009
431:
2-3 Months is the time the employee as welll provides to the employers when he resigns and moves off to a new company. I think this is a fair deal that the company paid you 3 months salary.
Sophi Replied to: Tarun
- 21 Aug, 2009
432:
I prefer legalising everything from offer letters to releasing letters. so that both parties will be sued accordingly when things go wrong. with this, wrong employee's and wrong policies/people at employer's will be questioned properly and facts will be out for truth. not sure where all the money going paid in terms of TAX for social security.
ravi Replied to: Raj
- 21 Aug, 2009
433:
Wipro indeed does such things. They just have a target of removing certain number of people. So they keep looking out for opportunitiees to throw people out. Doesn't matter whether they are right in doing it or not, they will do it no matter what. All the higher ups would make a team, and then make false allegations against you. No one would even listen to the person in question then. HR, Practice manager etc....are of no help. They are all one team and one is left with no option but to quit. It's all so bad. One should be there to understand what it is. The managers uses clauses like " He didn't even come to my cabin to meet me after his assignment". So disgusting
Sagar Replied to: Raj
- 21 Aug, 2009
434:
Fully agree to Sagar. 15 days notice is not something agreed upon in the agreement. In case this is happening, employes should also give not more than 0-15 days notice when leaving. Otherwise, it is a gross misbehaviour and cheating on the part of the organisation. Making unions is definitely one solution, the other solution is making special courts/ fair ombudsman for fast tarck redressal of such disputes. Employers (including top management) need to be made accountable and their behaviour should be termed as criminal inviting penalty and long term confinement.
Nish Replied to: Sagar
- 21 Aug, 2009
435:
All managers (at the lease 99%) are like this. There are 2 kind of people one who earn because of technical work another set of incompetent mafia people has no clue about technology becomes manager. Hope one day all such people will get punishment
Arun Replied to: Sagar
- 21 Aug, 2009
436:
Wipro HR(s) are very unethical, uncultured. I am a exwiproite and i had faced this during my stint of 6 years in wipro.
jack Replied to: Sagar
- 21 Aug, 2009
437:
Hi,
Software Companies like wipro get lot of benifits from the government. The reason why they give these benifits is first that, they grow the industry and give employments to as many number of people in our country. In term they make profits also through these benifits.
Now these profits as they say are kept as reserve, which will help the company in times of crises. So these companies have to use this money to pay the employees when they are laid off. Why dont wipro does that?
I was one of the victims of layoff in Wipro. One Firday when I asked my Manager "Is my job safe?", He was so confident saying that I was absolutley safe. And the next monday the HR called and told me to put my papers. My manager even did not send me a mail after that. They gave me 15 days notice and I was told to resign. Everyday I was called up and asked to resign. And the worst, they had already started my final settelment process before I resigned. They even did not pay me 3 month salary.
Is that what Wipro talks about ethics and values. If it was not for ressession, I would have had to give 3 months notice, when resigned. My request to the Government is, it should also have policies while the companies lay off the employees. Why its a one sided benifits? Are is this the attituted a Software company like wipro should have and calling them one of the best companies?
Software Companies like wipro get lot of benifits from the government. The reason why they give these benifits is first that, they grow the industry and give employments to as many number of people in our country. In term they make profits also through these benifits.
Now these profits as they say are kept as reserve, which will help the company in times of crises. So these companies have to use this money to pay the employees when they are laid off. Why dont wipro does that?
I was one of the victims of layoff in Wipro. One Firday when I asked my Manager "Is my job safe?", He was so confident saying that I was absolutley safe. And the next monday the HR called and told me to put my papers. My manager even did not send me a mail after that. They gave me 15 days notice and I was told to resign. Everyday I was called up and asked to resign. And the worst, they had already started my final settelment process before I resigned. They even did not pay me 3 month salary.
Is that what Wipro talks about ethics and values. If it was not for ressession, I would have had to give 3 months notice, when resigned. My request to the Government is, it should also have policies while the companies lay off the employees. Why its a one sided benifits? Are is this the attituted a Software company like wipro should have and calling them one of the best companies?
MRKM Replied to: Sagar
- 21 Aug, 2009
438:
wipro peoples are basted.
kiran singh Replied to: Sagar
- 21 Aug, 2009
439:
It' all great ,but ask themselves that why there is not any site which records these voices and tell it people that the person's (higher) have no morale in such companies
great Replied to: Sagar
- 21 Aug, 2009
440:
Pankaj kumar employee of wipro , his emp id is 233368 and working as Tech lead.
I want to disclose his cheapness, actually what he did in his life for his sexual satisfaction and for his own benefits. he was involved with many girls and did so many wrong things like sexual and physical, and mental harsh with them. he used them beyond the limit for his sex satisfactions. its not enough for him ..during this he recorded so many phone calls, videos and saved photos with each and every girls at their sexual activities..just because of his safety.
By his soft speaking habits and behaviour , person cant think he may b this much worst, but internally he is really one of the worst. he played with girls emotions and showed them they only did wrong with him. but in his full life he only use all girls ..
now even he is not good at his work place also.Before wipro he was in robert bosch, and he terminated from his job in robert bosch . he joined wipro in last year sep 2011, but till now without completion he released from more than 3 or 4 project due to his carelessness in his job .. he is staying at his home and making fools to girls and his seniors in his company also.he is having black family background , from starting he was like this but nobody object from his family. by which he is feeling proud for list of girls in his life.now in his thinking what ever he did he is not wrong, if girls did this with him then she is not good at all, he did all this cheap activities with all girls in cybercafe, restaurant, hotel and at his home also in bangalore.so many girls hurt ed by this all things, they requested , cried but this worst person never thought abut others feelings.
please just give Ur opinion abut this person. by which he can gt his result for his beyond limit worst work of his life.
I want to disclose his cheapness, actually what he did in his life for his sexual satisfaction and for his own benefits. he was involved with many girls and did so many wrong things like sexual and physical, and mental harsh with them. he used them beyond the limit for his sex satisfactions. its not enough for him ..during this he recorded so many phone calls, videos and saved photos with each and every girls at their sexual activities..just because of his safety.
By his soft speaking habits and behaviour , person cant think he may b this much worst, but internally he is really one of the worst. he played with girls emotions and showed them they only did wrong with him. but in his full life he only use all girls ..
now even he is not good at his work place also.Before wipro he was in robert bosch, and he terminated from his job in robert bosch . he joined wipro in last year sep 2011, but till now without completion he released from more than 3 or 4 project due to his carelessness in his job .. he is staying at his home and making fools to girls and his seniors in his company also.he is having black family background , from starting he was like this but nobody object from his family. by which he is feeling proud for list of girls in his life.now in his thinking what ever he did he is not wrong, if girls did this with him then she is not good at all, he did all this cheap activities with all girls in cybercafe, restaurant, hotel and at his home also in bangalore.so many girls hurt ed by this all things, they requested , cried but this worst person never thought abut others feelings.
please just give Ur opinion abut this person. by which he can gt his result for his beyond limit worst work of his life.
Posted by:abha
- 02 May, 2012
441:
wipro employee emp id no.233368 name pankaj kumar, he is not going office regularly and doing swapout from madibala only.. not serious in his job only sleeping and sexually abusing and talking girls by mails or phones
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Posted by:HelpSynapseNoida
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Yes my brother Mohit Jain also became mental by joining Wipro, Gurgaon.
Posted by:VIPIN JAIN
- 26 Nov, 2010
461:
I am sorry for the same. However, this is also due blood impurity and culture prevailing in the family. Also you threatens your neighbours, is your culture. Money is god your culture. To dis-respect the women, is always your culture. Then how can Wipro is responsible for your family's act?
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SK Kulshrestha Replied to: VIPIN JAIN
- 05 Feb, 2012
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463:
Sulekha Jagadish (Present Job - Program Manager)- Qual:
B Com, Working in wipro since 12 years. Being a non technical candidate she was in charge for allocating suitable resources to suitable projects. She is known to be using abusive language and interesting relationship with Gangadhariah(Sr Vice president, Testing services) and Keshava Kumar Handanahalu, now sacked by Wipro.
Anuradha Raju: Sacked from Infosys and then joined Wipro with the help of some insiders in the company. Ask any wiproite, all of them say that she is unfit for the job. Many highly skilled employees have seperated from the company- thanks to her slum dwellers language.She always use the word termination even for minor issues. known to have intimate relationship with Srinath Nittur Gopalakrishna Rao.
Keshav Kumar is not from IT background. He was a typical govt employee before he was recuited by wipro.
Ganesh halapethi is another non technical guy equipped with foul language and partisan attitude. Known to have amassed huge wealth by illegal means.
Vikram Mirani only supportive to particular community. Racist.Very abusive to south Indians. Huge wealth beyond his known sources of income.
Sanjay babu Srinivasan is fit to be a political leader. Better he joins any political party than spoiling innocent employees.
Ankur Chadha – known to be fond of only money. She can go to any extent to amass money
Sreerenganathan Group head is most cunning of them all. He was involved in big fraud in the Telecom domain. Known to be having cherished relationships with his female colleagues. His name is common in police records.
Shalini Macaden, HR who is famous for her sexual adventures within wipro campus.
B Com, Working in wipro since 12 years. Being a non technical candidate she was in charge for allocating suitable resources to suitable projects. She is known to be using abusive language and interesting relationship with Gangadhariah(Sr Vice president, Testing services) and Keshava Kumar Handanahalu, now sacked by Wipro.
Anuradha Raju: Sacked from Infosys and then joined Wipro with the help of some insiders in the company. Ask any wiproite, all of them say that she is unfit for the job. Many highly skilled employees have seperated from the company- thanks to her slum dwellers language.She always use the word termination even for minor issues. known to have intimate relationship with Srinath Nittur Gopalakrishna Rao.
Keshav Kumar is not from IT background. He was a typical govt employee before he was recuited by wipro.
Ganesh halapethi is another non technical guy equipped with foul language and partisan attitude. Known to have amassed huge wealth by illegal means.
Vikram Mirani only supportive to particular community. Racist.Very abusive to south Indians. Huge wealth beyond his known sources of income.
Sanjay babu Srinivasan is fit to be a political leader. Better he joins any political party than spoiling innocent employees.
Ankur Chadha – known to be fond of only money. She can go to any extent to amass money
Sreerenganathan Group head is most cunning of them all. He was involved in big fraud in the Telecom domain. Known to be having cherished relationships with his female colleagues. His name is common in police records.
Shalini Macaden, HR who is famous for her sexual adventures within wipro campus.
Posted by:surender
- 16 Jun, 2010
464:
Because of such harassment,Employees are leaving the organization.Last quarter there was highest attrition.Soon wipro could become worst employer in this country.
Posted by:Pasha
- 16 Jun, 2010
465:
Anuradha raju escaped from wipro. She is wanted by several wipro managers. anyone can pls inform her whereabouts in this blog
Posted by:noor mohammed
- 11 Jun, 2010
466:
Taking signatures on blank paper is a customary practice in wipro.Last year I was working on a project in US. Anuradha Raju the TED assistant manager forced me to come back to india.at the electronic city campus i was called by anuradha and gave me a blank paper and forced me to sign on a blank paper.she also explained that its the company's usual practice to forcibly take blank paper signatures.I would request all not to join wipro and destroy your career.
Posted by:manju
- 04 Jun, 2010
467:
Wipro managers are implicated in scams, illegitimate terminations, suicides (murders), illicit sex racket, HR bribery, criminal activities. So this man(Azim Premji) is encouraging these activities to grow by leaps and bounds. How is the government allowing this man to get away with this.
Posted by:fanoos
- 03 May, 2010
468:
Sex sells best in wipro, women employees joining wipro BEWARE!
It is alleged that wipro’s apex HR bosses are mediating these illicit relationships. One such example is Chennai wipro employee “Manjula” whose tape is well-known over internet http://rapidshare.com/files/369234751/indian-mms-sex-scandal-video-of-wipro-employee-manjula-chennai-hot-girl-home-made-masala-clips.rar. Another case reported from Wipro cochin campus.Wipro Managers are a cluster of offenders playing rot with the wipro Senior leadership. Most of the managers make a fuss of forbidden activities within the company’s campuses. There was an allegation about intimate relationship of Shalendra Kumar, Project Manager with Shalini Macaden HR Manager in Wipro’s Horizontals . There is enough uncertainty about her kids paternity. Regrettably her spouse is ignorant of the facts. Equally there are frequent cases of paternity problems with horny wipro women employees. Wipro code of business ethics is a mere eyewash. Debate does not stop with this scandal. There is a bigger sting to this with top HR personal involved in funds dealings However for an normal person it looks unlikely that “How come a HR Manager at that level be involved in the financial fraud. The HR directors are encouraging these affairs to cover up their own financial malpractices. The proximity of these HR managers with the persons at director level is well known. However the Director level hr Managers encouraging these forbidden affairs within the campuses still remains a mystery
It is alleged that wipro’s apex HR bosses are mediating these illicit relationships. One such example is Chennai wipro employee “Manjula” whose tape is well-known over internet http://rapidshare.com/files/369234751/indian-mms-sex-scandal-video-of-wipro-employee-manjula-chennai-hot-girl-home-made-masala-clips.rar. Another case reported from Wipro cochin campus.Wipro Managers are a cluster of offenders playing rot with the wipro Senior leadership. Most of the managers make a fuss of forbidden activities within the company’s campuses. There was an allegation about intimate relationship of Shalendra Kumar, Project Manager with Shalini Macaden HR Manager in Wipro’s Horizontals . There is enough uncertainty about her kids paternity. Regrettably her spouse is ignorant of the facts. Equally there are frequent cases of paternity problems with horny wipro women employees. Wipro code of business ethics is a mere eyewash. Debate does not stop with this scandal. There is a bigger sting to this with top HR personal involved in funds dealings However for an normal person it looks unlikely that “How come a HR Manager at that level be involved in the financial fraud. The HR directors are encouraging these affairs to cover up their own financial malpractices. The proximity of these HR managers with the persons at director level is well known. However the Director level hr Managers encouraging these forbidden affairs within the campuses still remains a mystery
Posted by:pravin tyagi
- 14 Apr, 2010
469:
My self vijay kamal employee of wipro the management of wipro always makes fake promises I was a tech support executive and I do not know the reason why I have been moved to other process without any reason my manager made a fake promise saying that they will give my job back after I complete my tenure with snapfish the cheapest process ever they said that they are moving me for business purpose I agreed and also had a meeting with my manager and TED. But when the time came not a single person from TED replied anything and my manager said he never promised me anything and I was on bench without any reason and I was called to join UBS I denied I asked my job back they said never either you resign or attend the interview I cleared the interview and I cleard the training I cleared my assessment also in all the process assessment and I was ready to do the live work then they said we do not require you go to some other process I do not know what exactly is the problem and I was suffering from a viral fever and I contacted my TL and informed him I will be absent for few days but they raised a DTS and sent me the LOC letter evne than I have contacted and said that I am going to resign my self but they never responded and terminated me what is the use of terminating me when myself is ready to resign Wipros management is wrost than our Indian government
Posted by:vijay kamal
- 09 Apr, 2010
470:
Friends
Lets understand one thing that even HR and higher management might also go through these blog comments.SO people like "axeman" are none but one of these idiots against whom we are trying to fight.They aim is to create confusion and divert our attention from the actual problem.SO please ignore comments from these A* H* because they can only talk ,but certainly a day would come when they will get affected and will understand the pain we are undergoing.Let keep this as a common forum to discuss our issues please share u r email addresses here
Lets understand one thing that even HR and higher management might also go through these blog comments.SO people like "axeman" are none but one of these idiots against whom we are trying to fight.They aim is to create confusion and divert our attention from the actual problem.SO please ignore comments from these A* H* because they can only talk ,but certainly a day would come when they will get affected and will understand the pain we are undergoing.Let keep this as a common forum to discuss our issues please share u r email addresses here
Posted by:raman
- 26 Dec, 2009
471:
Ram Mohan's Story is just a tip of an iceberg. There are many more blood sucking pigs in Wipro like - Oracle Delivery Head - Alok Sharma, Useless Delivery Manager - Mathiyazhagan Palaniyappan and few others . God knows how many people have commited suicide coz of such useless guys .
These guys know nothin but play politics and Kiss A55 of their Superiors. God forbid i only hope others are not harrased as well like Ram Mohan.
Wipro's policies are very simple : "Profits are Mine and Losses are yours".
These guys know nothin but play politics and Kiss A55 of their Superiors. God forbid i only hope others are not harrased as well like Ram Mohan.
Wipro's policies are very simple : "Profits are Mine and Losses are yours".
Posted by:RBB
- 03 Dec, 2009
472:
There is also another blood sucker. Ashwin Sadasiva Kumar of Best Buy account in Chennai. He sucks the life out of employees and never gives anyone her experience letter while quitting. He earns 26 lacs/annum. This guy should be jailed for employee harassment.
BBU Replied to: RBB
- 07 Dec, 2009
473:
I am not a wipro employee but I am not surprised by the above article as I know one of the Wipro employee Tanuja Punekar who got job in 2006 in wipro by sleeping around. She has guts to comment on this article that surprise me.
Posted by:tanuja punekar best frnd
- 30 Nov, 2009
474:
Ok I read almost all the comment and I am sorry for you all who got the pink slip. Even I am sailing on the same boat. Trust me for once and for all, who still have doubts
WIPRO IS THE WORST OF ALL COMPANIES
Form applying to innovating Lol
After working for 4+ years in more than 3 projects they simply asked me to resign. When asked Why? They answered Cost cutting and new hires with less salaries. Ok that's not the end even the HR people do not pay the full amount of settlement. The settlement paper that I received first from the TED had some amount, which they said was the final amount I was to receive. When I received the settlement money it was 7000 less. After writing a chain of mails they said that it was not in there account. I sent them hard as well as soft copy provided by them, but all in vain.
I finally quit.
Like someone said in the transcripts its better not to work in a company like this and stay unemployed, where people are treated like SALVES. Yes believe me it is true
The upper management sucks and Premji still thinks, he owns the best company in India
Some days back while I was still in- I heard that the old man with gray hair will give away everything for charity Gosh WHY (CRY)? When you say its a people's company, for which the company stands. Give them the due credit, raise their salaries a little. The top management is filled with oldies & are good for nothing. I feel its bad to work for a company like think and cry everyday.
WIPRO IS THE WORST OF ALL COMPANIES
Form applying to innovating Lol
After working for 4+ years in more than 3 projects they simply asked me to resign. When asked Why? They answered Cost cutting and new hires with less salaries. Ok that's not the end even the HR people do not pay the full amount of settlement. The settlement paper that I received first from the TED had some amount, which they said was the final amount I was to receive. When I received the settlement money it was 7000 less. After writing a chain of mails they said that it was not in there account. I sent them hard as well as soft copy provided by them, but all in vain.
I finally quit.
Like someone said in the transcripts its better not to work in a company like this and stay unemployed, where people are treated like SALVES. Yes believe me it is true
The upper management sucks and Premji still thinks, he owns the best company in India
Some days back while I was still in- I heard that the old man with gray hair will give away everything for charity Gosh WHY (CRY)? When you say its a people's company, for which the company stands. Give them the due credit, raise their salaries a little. The top management is filled with oldies & are good for nothing. I feel its bad to work for a company like think and cry everyday.
Posted by:Mahalingam
- 14 Nov, 2009
475:
Hi,
Black magic is one possibility.The other possibility is if you can go to a good psychiatrist he can help you out.Noboday can harm you as long as you choose to get harmed.Try to discover the inner potential strenghth which exist in you and overcome the problem.you are greater than the problem.
Black magic is one possibility.The other possibility is if you can go to a good psychiatrist he can help you out.Noboday can harm you as long as you choose to get harmed.Try to discover the inner potential strenghth which exist in you and overcome the problem.you are greater than the problem.
Sita Replied to: prathap
- 15 Sep, 2009
476:
WIPRO is having criminal gang of HR and Managers. They are the gangsters with criminal minds.
ann shree Replied to: w@r10ck
- 05 Sep, 2009
477:
One thing is quiet clear. When professionals were switching between companies, people were talking about ethics & values. But, nowadays no-one is talking to companies about human values & ethics. So, one thing is clearly evident. As long as market recieves you, try to tap as much as possible. No need to be any company oriented professional. Thats the way we can survive in this industry. Thanks
SSKR Replied to: w@r10ck
- 03 Sep, 2009
478:
Here you go.....this is now your manmohanjee is helping....
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/4957874.cms
GOI is good for nothing.....Guyss we all need to become ONE and take action..... IT companies are nothing without their EMPLOYEE's
its not like a product like Coke or Car or whatever that you make once and SELL it....
IT and Indian IT companies are nothing without us...
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/4957874.cms
GOI is good for nothing.....Guyss we all need to become ONE and take action..... IT companies are nothing without their EMPLOYEE's
its not like a product like Coke or Car or whatever that you make once and SELL it....
IT and Indian IT companies are nothing without us...
TK Replied to: Unknown
- 02 Sep, 2009
479:
Wipro needs to be black listed .
Do anybody have contacts in Nasscom .
http://www.nasscom.org/Nasscom/templates/NormalPage.aspx?id=2792
Do anybody have contacts in Nasscom .
http://www.nasscom.org/Nasscom/templates/NormalPage.aspx?id=2792
ttadm Replied to: w@r10ck
- 30 Aug, 2009
480:
Wipro HR and managers are real sadists....As part of the enrich program they make people come couple of days in a week to office for trainings and other purpose. They have purposefully planned it to have those on Friday's and Monday's so to ruin the employees weekend trip plans.. why cant they have it on Monday and tuesday.. or any other two successive days.... They just want to make sure they employee doesn't come to office and also can't do anything for himself.....
sam Replied to: Unknown
- 29 Aug, 2009
481:
so u are asking for an email. is it for spamming ? or to gains to send it to other so called third party clients. why are u begging for email address you begger ?
Again u will beg for my email addre here it is
my email address
v-9naban@mssupport.microsoft.com
naren@gmail.com
or if u are still not satisfied you can create you own email address and send it to your group gmail address.
Again u will beg for my email addre here it is
my email address
v-9naban@mssupport.microsoft.com
naren@gmail.com
or if u are still not satisfied you can create you own email address and send it to your group gmail address.
Naren Replied to: Lisa
- 28 Aug, 2009
482:
Well Guys this is for you all.
Nothing would change the system but this site have got a good square.
Whatever happened to Vishal.
But my point and a suggestion to all is Please don't do this kinda stupid thing in your life this shows your cowardness.
Nothing would change the system but this site have got a good square.
Whatever happened to Vishal.
But my point and a suggestion to all is Please don't do this kinda stupid thing in your life this shows your cowardness.
Mann Replied to: w@r10ck
- 28 Aug, 2009
483:
First of all you people have commented all *!`/ things without knowing the full fact.
Atleast do not put such a reputed companies name at stake.
I think you people might have signed some policies and all.
Abide by that and do not behave like illiterates.
Again by forming a organisation you are giving rise to more problems bbut not a solution to the problem
PS: No offence meant to anyone...
Atleast do not put such a reputed companies name at stake.
I think you people might have signed some policies and all.
Abide by that and do not behave like illiterates.
Again by forming a organisation you are giving rise to more problems bbut not a solution to the problem
PS: No offence meant to anyone...
IamtheSOUL Replied to: w@r10ck
- 28 Aug, 2009
484:
Guys, i too was once a wiproite...i faced a similar situation in 2005 itself...managers threatened me by calling to a conference room....they openly said they will spoil my career and they did not provide my experience letter though i served for 5 years...inspite of me being a lady, the managers said they will assault me...the memories still haunting me...though i sent a letter to senior people they closed it saying action was taken against them but they cannot provide my experience certificate...
Priya Replied to: w@r10ck
- 28 Aug, 2009
485:
Dear Friends,
I am also employee of Wipro Technologies, almost 28 months worked one particular project , and last appraisal they gave NI and they sacked me .
I very glad to share my experience which I observed in wipro Technologies .
1) always politics and partiality .
2) don't expect money more.
3) if you want to stay in wipro for longer period then you have shop always to your managers.
Here I am ready to share my name and emp no , but yet to receive experience letter.
I am also employee of Wipro Technologies, almost 28 months worked one particular project , and last appraisal they gave NI and they sacked me .
I very glad to share my experience which I observed in wipro Technologies .
1) always politics and partiality .
2) don't expect money more.
3) if you want to stay in wipro for longer period then you have shop always to your managers.
Here I am ready to share my name and emp no , but yet to receive experience letter.
Anonymous Replied to: w@r10ck
- 27 Aug, 2009
487:
I too agree with every bad comments provided about Wipro. It isnt Wipro thats corrupt. Its some cheap managers that meake it so. I too worked with Wipro for the Past 5 years. Had wonderful time here, but off late due to cheap managers i had to put down my papers too.... I was sort of connered to put down my papers
Nisha Replied to: Unknown
- 27 Aug, 2009
488:
Weak Input Poor Rubbish Output.
yes I hope this new company will do need full.
The psedocode for RECESSION mitigation management Plan (RMMP)is as below(for project manager)
1.take very much skilled employee from free pool as new team member,
2.give him very less , or no transition ,no Kt to him.
3.make sure evry team member will never help this new team member.
4.give all kinds of mental tortures to this new team member.
5.make sure he will never perfom well in projct work/in assigned tasks.
6. provide brain storming sessions every friday evenings,so that the new team member never sleeps calmly at his room/home .
7.finally rate this new team member's performance as "bottom performer" NI, and make him unbillable.
8.dont talk for two weeks with this new team member.
9. Request concered TED to send "policy and integrity violation alert mail " to this new team member.
10. Roam around this new team member along with beautifull girl and irritate the new team member.
11. arrange for kick out discussion and throw out the new team member out of THIS bullshit company.
yes I hope this new company will do need full.
The psedocode for RECESSION mitigation management Plan (RMMP)is as below(for project manager)
1.take very much skilled employee from free pool as new team member,
2.give him very less , or no transition ,no Kt to him.
3.make sure evry team member will never help this new team member.
4.give all kinds of mental tortures to this new team member.
5.make sure he will never perfom well in projct work/in assigned tasks.
6. provide brain storming sessions every friday evenings,so that the new team member never sleeps calmly at his room/home .
7.finally rate this new team member's performance as "bottom performer" NI, and make him unbillable.
8.dont talk for two weeks with this new team member.
9. Request concered TED to send "policy and integrity violation alert mail " to this new team member.
10. Roam around this new team member along with beautifull girl and irritate the new team member.
11. arrange for kick out discussion and throw out the new team member out of THIS bullshit company.
Rabis Replied to: w@r10ck
- 27 Aug, 2009
489:
Lisa.. who are you, i see you with different names like sarangi, smurti etc. People have come to participate in a forum to discuss an issue. You seem to be jumping or rather pouncing on everyone's comment. Are you mentally ok.
Girish Bhatt Replied to: Lisa
- 26 Aug, 2009
490:
So what did you do ? Joined your client or still working in wipro.
Common man..all the people are same...no one is saint peter here.
I guess you would be doing the same thing if u were in her shoes, since you dont want to dissapoint ur higher managers.
So its time to get back to work and start loving the job instead of the company as said by Narayana murthy
Common man..all the people are same...no one is saint peter here.
I guess you would be doing the same thing if u were in her shoes, since you dont want to dissapoint ur higher managers.
So its time to get back to work and start loving the job instead of the company as said by Narayana murthy
paulaate Replied to: Mithra
- 25 Aug, 2009
491:
Hi Snruthi,
So u are meaning that it is a good thing to hear voices of people who do not exist.Will you be happy if you hear provocATIVE TALKS DAY IN AND DAY OUT?dONT U THINK THAT IS THE WORST HARASSMENT? Please dont make such arrogant and heartless statements.I have tried different costly poojas, different types of pyschiatric medicines,different temples. I have sat for bhajan even for one week in chottanikkara temple in Kerala. BUt without use. I have spent thouands of Rupees on this and I cant even work. I AM DOWN AND OUT for your information. My life is totally screwed.Now please dont advice me to commit suicide..I suppose you are capable of doing that also.
So u are meaning that it is a good thing to hear voices of people who do not exist.Will you be happy if you hear provocATIVE TALKS DAY IN AND DAY OUT?dONT U THINK THAT IS THE WORST HARASSMENT? Please dont make such arrogant and heartless statements.I have tried different costly poojas, different types of pyschiatric medicines,different temples. I have sat for bhajan even for one week in chottanikkara temple in Kerala. BUt without use. I have spent thouands of Rupees on this and I cant even work. I AM DOWN AND OUT for your information. My life is totally screwed.Now please dont advice me to commit suicide..I suppose you are capable of doing that also.
prathap Replied to: Mr.Smruti
- 25 Aug, 2009
492:
This is a damn funny one, man! Amazing! Is it your own?
HAW Replied to: MoveOn
- 24 Aug, 2009
493:
Yes you are right, We all should approach to media, whosoever has good contacts in Media then please use it.
This is true, Every big company create their own rules. There is no scrutiny behind this from Goverment side, because they have Big names.
Yea please circulate this to some Good Blog sites also.
This is true, Every big company create their own rules. There is no scrutiny behind this from Goverment side, because they have Big names.
Yea please circulate this to some Good Blog sites also.
Ankit Goyal Replied to: ere
- 24 Aug, 2009
494:
This managment and HR is a single unit. HR cant take any action on these managers. You only have to fight with this kind of persnalities.
Amol Replied to: Guru
- 24 Aug, 2009
495:
I feel u should visit some temple and as what can be done to get out of this... and i feel u should do it as soon a s possible...i wish u would be fine very soon... probably can get few informations on that.
kaushalya Replied to: prathap
- 24 Aug, 2009
496:
Its not slave only WIPRO treat people as a number and when you are a number you dnt have human aspect isn't it?
I am happy to see that someone has strength to shout but why all of we are shouting here , dnt you guys think we should stand against Ram, it cud happen tomorrow with anyone of us :-)
I am happy to see that someone has strength to shout but why all of we are shouting here , dnt you guys think we should stand against Ram, it cud happen tomorrow with anyone of us :-)
Sudipta Replied to: w@r10ck
- 24 Aug, 2009
497:
Please do understand the following principles.
In the world of business there is no Concept of Emotion. If you are working with emotion, Then ultimately you will be slashed in to pieces with a reason called Business philosophy. Many people are thinking Management is the one who is doing all this bullshit. fine, what is hapening to manager there in wipro. Do you guys think they are happily sitting on nice cushioned chairs. no way, fyi, wipro even slashed so many managers with out any reason(more than 100+ at a single location). even those who are working with compnay for more than 20 years. Please do understand that it is a crisis. so, there is no point in blaming crisis and giving value for emotions in the crisis time.
It is not only one company as wipro. the way they reacted is brutal I can say what wipro is doing today. because they cannot sink the entire wipro ship just because of emotions and people value. Some people has to get down from the ship whether they like it or not. Since no body don't want to jump they themselves are throwing out of the company for cost cutting. This is not only the story of wipro. this is the story with every company.
How come we are not claiming when they are paying high salaries that we don't require this much of salary. According to simple economic principle - today they are sharing the profit with the employees by paying high salary. tomorrow if the companies are making loss are we in a position to pay back to the company and sharing their losses no way. This is the reality boss,
I am also a big bakra from wipro who served for more number of years in all the possible nice roles.
Forming an Union, is a good concept. but please do realise, will all you guys do a strike / Bandh for your coemployees in other companies if the management is not good or for some other reasons. Please don't waste your time by spending time here. Rather search for a job for some thing which will give you good benefits iimediately. I do understand, but please go with reality.
If you guys want government to take action, what government role is all about for 15 lakhs of people, if you need to put to movement how many are really ready and what is the agenda. if we don't have this, you ideas will be born to death.
In the world of business there is no Concept of Emotion. If you are working with emotion, Then ultimately you will be slashed in to pieces with a reason called Business philosophy. Many people are thinking Management is the one who is doing all this bullshit. fine, what is hapening to manager there in wipro. Do you guys think they are happily sitting on nice cushioned chairs. no way, fyi, wipro even slashed so many managers with out any reason(more than 100+ at a single location). even those who are working with compnay for more than 20 years. Please do understand that it is a crisis. so, there is no point in blaming crisis and giving value for emotions in the crisis time.
It is not only one company as wipro. the way they reacted is brutal I can say what wipro is doing today. because they cannot sink the entire wipro ship just because of emotions and people value. Some people has to get down from the ship whether they like it or not. Since no body don't want to jump they themselves are throwing out of the company for cost cutting. This is not only the story of wipro. this is the story with every company.
How come we are not claiming when they are paying high salaries that we don't require this much of salary. According to simple economic principle - today they are sharing the profit with the employees by paying high salary. tomorrow if the companies are making loss are we in a position to pay back to the company and sharing their losses no way. This is the reality boss,
I am also a big bakra from wipro who served for more number of years in all the possible nice roles.
Forming an Union, is a good concept. but please do realise, will all you guys do a strike / Bandh for your coemployees in other companies if the management is not good or for some other reasons. Please don't waste your time by spending time here. Rather search for a job for some thing which will give you good benefits iimediately. I do understand, but please go with reality.
If you guys want government to take action, what government role is all about for 15 lakhs of people, if you need to put to movement how many are really ready and what is the agenda. if we don't have this, you ideas will be born to death.
OnemoreBakraFrom Wipro Replied to: w@r10ck
- 24 Aug, 2009
498:
if it is inner voices will the voices be able to create physical pain in your body?Will the voices be able to create chest pain and act intelligently..see even I was not a believer occult and spirits and all..but after this incident I am forced to believe..this is such an unbelivebale thing happening to me..u wont believe it these thing are trurning off my computer every time I start it it. I checked with a technician and he said nothjing is wrong with the computer
prathap Replied to: Mr.Smruti
- 24 Aug, 2009
499:
Hi shreenidhi ... i think u ppl are doing gud job ... we have to bring the name of these bull shit ppl forward...wt thr job is just to shrt list resume n after that sit idle ..n making schemes /policies of no use ..My self harminder working with posco steel Gurgaon .. u cn mail me o harryposco@gmail.com
harminder Replied to: Shreenidhi
- 24 Aug, 2009
501:
it is very late that somebody has come against Wipro, i was thrown out of wipro similarly but hided the facts to ensure my future. It is a lala, seth, baniya company where chamchagiri and wagging tail pays. there are no humanitarian values. The immediate senior will please his/her boss and so on and so forth. They CUT SALARIES, they haress employies and make binding contracts for longer periods. Breaking contracts would mean paying them in reverse order. They take unfair advantage of select female staff by showing superiority and work pressure. The HR and Omsbudsmann just complete the formalities of (no evidence) prevalance of innocence, and stuff like that. Its high time that Wipro pays for throwing people out. Nobodys Future is secure with WIPRO. Rama should get justice and many others too.
ash Replied to: ere
- 24 Aug, 2009
502:
yes,there should be some law for the people who works in IT industry.Not only in WIPRO in other companies like INFOTECH ENTERPRISES LIMITED,i heard that company had sacked one female employee for not speaking to others male employee particularly to her GM(V.S RAO).He is very much interested in female employees.If he finds F gender in the application means selected if M NO.I don't know why these managers are beggars,there should be a employee union.I don't know the reason why they sack the employee who worked hard for years and gave good profits to the company and that to they wil say poor performance.I suggest you people that who are all not having a job go and try in infotech enterprises LTD{only for female candidates).
harish Replied to: Yash
- 23 Aug, 2009
503:
We work to live and not live to work. After a 15 t 16 hours work day what will be left of a person? I don't think this is healthy work culture.
First thing is there should be unity among employees and like blue collars we should also have a union. Till that happens exploitation will continue and the precious energy of India's youth will be sucked by ruthless and unethical companies serving foreigners just for making money.
First thing is there should be unity among employees and like blue collars we should also have a union. Till that happens exploitation will continue and the precious energy of India's youth will be sucked by ruthless and unethical companies serving foreigners just for making money.
Guest Replied to: Jnaneswar
- 23 Aug, 2009
504:
Dear Smruti Ranjan,
I guess you are Orissa, from my native place. I saw ur comments about sacked employee in Wipro. But there are thousand cases happening in other companies. Recently in HCL in front of other junior employee one manager says " I have spent 4 to 5 years in HCL, I have a lot of reference here.So I can throw you out from HCL. I give you poor appraisal". That employee escalated this issue to higher level in HCL. But the result was same as usual.The employee was sacked in stead of manager.
So we should build employee union.
Regards,
Sital.
I guess you are Orissa, from my native place. I saw ur comments about sacked employee in Wipro. But there are thousand cases happening in other companies. Recently in HCL in front of other junior employee one manager says " I have spent 4 to 5 years in HCL, I have a lot of reference here.So I can throw you out from HCL. I give you poor appraisal". That employee escalated this issue to higher level in HCL. But the result was same as usual.The employee was sacked in stead of manager.
So we should build employee union.
Regards,
Sital.
sital Replied to: Shreenidhi
- 23 Aug, 2009
505:
go to SRI RAGHAVENDRA SWAMY MUTT, MANTRALAYA AND TAKE BLESSINGS OF GURU RAGHAVENDRA , YOUR PROBLEM WILL BE SOLVED.
CHANT DAILY SHRI RAGHAVENDRAYA NAMAHA ,WHEN EVER UR FREE.
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UNKNOWN Replied to: prathap
- 23 Aug, 2009
506:
I have gone thorugh with all posts and as conclusion I want to say we need an Employee Union there who can fairly fight for employees rights.
If labor unions (who are not much educated)can make change, why not we.
We are IT professional, we can make use of IT for our union.
Why not we make some forum or community online and spread that across India by mailing and using search engines. Initially we can start by telling our experiences and later on we can add more things like giving advice and legal helps etc.
Think about it - we can make a change.
If labor unions (who are not much educated)can make change, why not we.
We are IT professional, we can make use of IT for our union.
Why not we make some forum or community online and spread that across India by mailing and using search engines. Initially we can start by telling our experiences and later on we can add more things like giving advice and legal helps etc.
Think about it - we can make a change.
Pramod Replied to: Lisa
- 23 Aug, 2009
507:
You are blessed Prathap,
Those are no the magic spell. Those are your inner voice that your manager has accidentally has waken you up.
Listen to it carefully. It is actually guiding you to your real life.
Regards,
Mr.Smruti.
Those are no the magic spell. Those are your inner voice that your manager has accidentally has waken you up.
Listen to it carefully. It is actually guiding you to your real life.
Regards,
Mr.Smruti.
Mr.Smruti Replied to: prathap
- 23 Aug, 2009
508:
Hi madam,
This technique is not known to any one except the PM who did it. This technique is just like a magic spell. You know in magic any thing is possible and we wont be exactly be able to explain how it is taking place. NOw about kshudhram in this you can hear the voices of two people one is an arrogant harsh male voice and another is that of a small girl. Now these two voices will speak to us in a very provocative and insulting way. They will be mostly talking about Infosys and about the problems related to my work and how bad my conduct is and such things. Some times these two creatures (they are invisible oly voices can be heard) create pain in different parts of the body , like back pain, headache, chest pain(near to the heart) etc at crucial times(like when we are riding bike, talking to friends etc) These creatures are like gods and possess extreme power and some times they threaten to kill us and all). If u want to know more about this please refer to my post in Indiadivine.org(Urgent help needed!its a matter of Life and Death-by appolonius). As I am typing this , these creatures are asking me to stop typing and go back home and they are producing pain in my back near the upper part. Also some times these creatures will cast a spell(called a kshudhram) and prevent us from sleeping. They also prevent me fromhaving physical relationship .so I am not able to get married now. Nobody is believing me in my home and nobody is aware of this problem. I took a lot of psychiatric drugs and antihypnotics but this is showing no sign of imporvement. Becoz of this problem I am not able to work am emotionally harassed and down and dejected and am on the verge of committing suicide.The only way to get rid of this problem is to appeal to the project manager to cure this. But now he is also denying this.I cant move legally also so I am in a soup. Believe me even though this sounds like a mental disease this is not a mind problem and this is a real supernatural problem. I got this the very same day my PM called me to his cabin to sack me.
This technique is not known to any one except the PM who did it. This technique is just like a magic spell. You know in magic any thing is possible and we wont be exactly be able to explain how it is taking place. NOw about kshudhram in this you can hear the voices of two people one is an arrogant harsh male voice and another is that of a small girl. Now these two voices will speak to us in a very provocative and insulting way. They will be mostly talking about Infosys and about the problems related to my work and how bad my conduct is and such things. Some times these two creatures (they are invisible oly voices can be heard) create pain in different parts of the body , like back pain, headache, chest pain(near to the heart) etc at crucial times(like when we are riding bike, talking to friends etc) These creatures are like gods and possess extreme power and some times they threaten to kill us and all). If u want to know more about this please refer to my post in Indiadivine.org(Urgent help needed!its a matter of Life and Death-by appolonius). As I am typing this , these creatures are asking me to stop typing and go back home and they are producing pain in my back near the upper part. Also some times these creatures will cast a spell(called a kshudhram) and prevent us from sleeping. They also prevent me fromhaving physical relationship .so I am not able to get married now. Nobody is believing me in my home and nobody is aware of this problem. I took a lot of psychiatric drugs and antihypnotics but this is showing no sign of imporvement. Becoz of this problem I am not able to work am emotionally harassed and down and dejected and am on the verge of committing suicide.The only way to get rid of this problem is to appeal to the project manager to cure this. But now he is also denying this.I cant move legally also so I am in a soup. Believe me even though this sounds like a mental disease this is not a mind problem and this is a real supernatural problem. I got this the very same day my PM called me to his cabin to sack me.
prathap Replied to: Lisa
- 23 Aug, 2009
509:
Unfortunately this has become a practice to criticize someone who spent more than 60% of his life in Jails for fools, selfish and cowards like us who don’t sacrifice one hour of their life time for others.
"A leader can make mistakes not a coward"
"A leader can make mistakes not a coward"
ravi Replied to: Lisa
- 23 Aug, 2009
510:
I was working in India for 7 years and feel so sad looking at the state these IT firms have reached exploiting the employees and firing them at their own will.The Govt cannot do anything as these firms have a million excuses and the employee has to bear the brunt. Not to hurt anyone, I had realized this long back and moved out of India for good and UK is much better as employee security is better here compared to India.At-least I found a good employer in spite of recession.I think the IT employees in India should come together and start a grievances forum online and liaise with the Govt to address these issues.Not sure what NASSCOM is upto except to be a bullying machinenad scare employees.
Vicky Replied to: w@r10ck
- 23 Aug, 2009
511:
MY 1.5+ YEARS OF TOUGH TIMES EXPERIENCE IN WIPRO
Hi all,
I dont hide my self in the mask of anonymous. Wanted to be transparent, I am Jnaneswar.
Right after my java training, for about a couple of days, I was dreamiing about my career in java. But to my surprise, the first project to which I was assigned is in Unix, oracle and VB.Net. I remember my onsite coordinator forcing me to learn VB.Net to support the project applications.
With in about 2 months, I was shown the flavour of COBOL, and by the time I gathered my material to learn COBOL, I was moved in to SAP where I worked in for three months at a rate of more than 15-16 hours per day. After I struggled with SAP applications and completed the project, I was rewarded with a transfer to Gurgaon in one day notice, given no guidance regarding accomodation, put me in to unix and telecom domain which demands me to work in shifts. The company here, inspite of the fact that the public transport system is pitiable, doesnt provide any transportation facilities. Currently we are expected to work in night shits and on 24*7 basis, my team leads and project managers being working only in general and normal working hours basis.
After all this when I turn back in to my life, I find myself playing the role of a FAILED SOFTWARE ENGINEER. And correct, I ruined my life in WIPRO. Hope thing should not be like of mine with other software professionals.
Hi all,
I dont hide my self in the mask of anonymous. Wanted to be transparent, I am Jnaneswar.
Right after my java training, for about a couple of days, I was dreamiing about my career in java. But to my surprise, the first project to which I was assigned is in Unix, oracle and VB.Net. I remember my onsite coordinator forcing me to learn VB.Net to support the project applications.
With in about 2 months, I was shown the flavour of COBOL, and by the time I gathered my material to learn COBOL, I was moved in to SAP where I worked in for three months at a rate of more than 15-16 hours per day. After I struggled with SAP applications and completed the project, I was rewarded with a transfer to Gurgaon in one day notice, given no guidance regarding accomodation, put me in to unix and telecom domain which demands me to work in shifts. The company here, inspite of the fact that the public transport system is pitiable, doesnt provide any transportation facilities. Currently we are expected to work in night shits and on 24*7 basis, my team leads and project managers being working only in general and normal working hours basis.
After all this when I turn back in to my life, I find myself playing the role of a FAILED SOFTWARE ENGINEER. And correct, I ruined my life in WIPRO. Hope thing should not be like of mine with other software professionals.
Jnaneswar Replied to: w@r10ck
- 23 Aug, 2009
512:
The HR's Wipro Technologies is certainly participating in the activities mentioned above. I had worked with Wipro Technologies for 4.8 years and quit in April'09. The HR called me up on phone and threatened me that if I join the client for whom I worked, I would be in trouble and put the phone down. This is certainly not the way a Senior HR (Richa Telang - Business Technology Services) should behave.Wipro is like a government company where all the bosses can do anything and everything and no one questions them.
Mithra Replied to: w@r10ck
- 22 Aug, 2009
513:
I think it is very important to form a SOFTWARE EMPLOYEE's ASSOCIATION and stop the Management for taking things for granted specially all the unlawful behavior that goes on inside the IT companies. Now we know why STRIKES and BANDHs come about. Because in a unregulated space, employers indulge in unlawful behavior left and right.
Since IT Companies are relatively new compared to the older peers in Manufacturing , it is not well regulated either by the Government or by the law agencies. It is very important regulations are enforced and illicit and illegal behavior of men and women managers be brought under control. No company has the right to take the law in their own hands. Those who do should be dealt with very strictly and put behind bars. Managers , both men and women, indulging in threats and verbal abuses should be stripped of their jobs, handcuffed and paraded in the streets like common criminals and be thrown to rot in jails. The arrogance of people like Azim Premji who is going and making arrogant comments in the US press (like there will be trade wars etc) is causing a lot of damage to India and India's image in the international arena. He talks as if he is the spokesman for India's Prime Minister. His recent move to bring his sons into Management also shows his dynastic inclination and unprofessional attitude.
WIPRO and TCS are specially the most notorious in behaving unethically wherever they operate in the world. Their Managers are also one of the most uneducated . You will hardly find well educated and well-heeled people in their management ranks. The women managers specially go up not on merit but by virtue of other assets. Employees should go to the Police Station and close the operations of these companies for a few days. When their customers will threaten to take back the contracts, only then they will learn a lesson.
Since IT Companies are relatively new compared to the older peers in Manufacturing , it is not well regulated either by the Government or by the law agencies. It is very important regulations are enforced and illicit and illegal behavior of men and women managers be brought under control. No company has the right to take the law in their own hands. Those who do should be dealt with very strictly and put behind bars. Managers , both men and women, indulging in threats and verbal abuses should be stripped of their jobs, handcuffed and paraded in the streets like common criminals and be thrown to rot in jails. The arrogance of people like Azim Premji who is going and making arrogant comments in the US press (like there will be trade wars etc) is causing a lot of damage to India and India's image in the international arena. He talks as if he is the spokesman for India's Prime Minister. His recent move to bring his sons into Management also shows his dynastic inclination and unprofessional attitude.
WIPRO and TCS are specially the most notorious in behaving unethically wherever they operate in the world. Their Managers are also one of the most uneducated . You will hardly find well educated and well-heeled people in their management ranks. The women managers specially go up not on merit but by virtue of other assets. Employees should go to the Police Station and close the operations of these companies for a few days. When their customers will threaten to take back the contracts, only then they will learn a lesson.
SATYABRATA Replied to: Anonymus
- 22 Aug, 2009
514:
Hi Lisa,
what I think God will never come. You have to make change by ur own.Crying is not a solution for problem.
Regards
Saurabh
what I think God will never come. You have to make change by ur own.Crying is not a solution for problem.
Regards
Saurabh
saurabh Replied to: Lisa
- 22 Aug, 2009
515:
Hi, I understand your emotions. Time is really very bad, but what I think that you all must make some sort of union, you all are very well educated peoples, not like dumb so why people worry to lead.These companies suck your brain and give nothing in comparison to their own peoples.
So don't afraid to make a start up.Have courage and start your own.
Regards,
Saurabh Nema
M. Tech,SDVT
IIT Roorkee.
So don't afraid to make a start up.Have courage and start your own.
Regards,
Saurabh Nema
M. Tech,SDVT
IIT Roorkee.
saurabh Replied to: Lisa
- 22 Aug, 2009
516:
Ms. Lisa stop talking about father of nation, and be in their shoes and answer. Nobody is a coward here. except the one whom you have mentioned. In every revolt he was first one to escape and though survived till we got independence, I know this is not the topic, but wanted to make you clearly understand this point, who is a coward. Better know the facts and then give morals. do find my name below
Thanks
Thanks
sampath Replied to: Lisa
- 22 Aug, 2009
517:
'Lisa' seems to be the only person responding to each and every comment! Are you a Wipro spokesperson or something?
Paul Replied to: Lisa
- 22 Aug, 2009
518:
Shaf,
Its not the question of getting job.Do you think Ram with 11 years of IT track record worried about job..he is wanted by IT companies any time..I do not think he needs help getting new job.
Its the way Wipro behaved is unacceptable ..he needs support to fight the ARMY OF CROOKED guys.
"threw off the unlawful" is selfish( sorry abt the word) its like running away.. sorry buddy do not agree WE NEED FIGHT UNLAWFUL...DO'NT WE ?
Its not the question of getting job.Do you think Ram with 11 years of IT track record worried about job..he is wanted by IT companies any time..I do not think he needs help getting new job.
Its the way Wipro behaved is unacceptable ..he needs support to fight the ARMY OF CROOKED guys.
"threw off the unlawful" is selfish( sorry abt the word) its like running away.. sorry buddy do not agree WE NEED FIGHT UNLAWFUL...DO'NT WE ?
shuk Replied to: Shaf
- 22 Aug, 2009
519:
Ram and others ex-Wiproites,
In the same blog see more than 50 ex-wiproites raising concern over the way wipro treats its employees.
In addition having more than 10 ex-wipro friends share same experience .
Ram we are all with you emotionally and financially ..do not leave them till you and others wipro exploited folks get due compensation.
Wish you all the best.
In the same blog see more than 50 ex-wiproites raising concern over the way wipro treats its employees.
In addition having more than 10 ex-wipro friends share same experience .
Ram we are all with you emotionally and financially ..do not leave them till you and others wipro exploited folks get due compensation.
Wish you all the best.
unknown Replied to: Unknown
- 22 Aug, 2009
520:
Wipro is a worst company,if our Indian GOVT. did not take any action then our nation fame will be ruined.Wipro should follow some morals like INFOSYS AND SATYAM because they will do their business very genuinely and they explain to media about the happenings.But this worst wipro doesn't follow any rules and regulations.wipro should be banned,because the products prepared by them are also worst.
Azim Premji is also a fraud he done business upto now.He purchased subhiksha and blaming them that they did't told about their losses.Before purchasing any product we will see the pros and cons of a product.This gives us info that Azim premji is not having any knowledge about life and doesn't care for the people.If any person met with an accident we will help him a lot even he is a stranger,but in wipro it is quiet opposite.They laid off sorry harrased and made them to resign about 8000 people.
So,My sincere request to Govt. of india is dismiss wipro from our country.Then half of our country will develop.By seeing this company other companies will learn morals that we should spoil and hurt others.
Becareful freshers don't risk to join wipro.
Azim Premji is also a fraud he done business upto now.He purchased subhiksha and blaming them that they did't told about their losses.Before purchasing any product we will see the pros and cons of a product.This gives us info that Azim premji is not having any knowledge about life and doesn't care for the people.If any person met with an accident we will help him a lot even he is a stranger,but in wipro it is quiet opposite.They laid off sorry harrased and made them to resign about 8000 people.
So,My sincere request to Govt. of india is dismiss wipro from our country.Then half of our country will develop.By seeing this company other companies will learn morals that we should spoil and hurt others.
Becareful freshers don't risk to join wipro.
Anonymous Replied to: w@r10ck
- 22 Aug, 2009
521:
Hi Lisa
I've already meiled to ur id.
Lets stop talking and start doing.
I've already meiled to ur id.
Lets stop talking and start doing.
utsav Replied to: Lisa
- 22 Aug, 2009
522:
What the hell of these Indian IT companies... They do all the nasty wrong things inside the company and at the end they say with employees that you have to follow our company rules.
Will they follow any rules exactly as framed by US gov or any other gov while filing the work visas to their employees. All the employees know what the companies do inside while filing the H1 or L1 or B1 visas to US. Employees of these Indian companies should come out like this protest directly in the interest of every Indian IT employee interest.
Will they follow any rules exactly as framed by US gov or any other gov while filing the work visas to their employees. All the employees know what the companies do inside while filing the H1 or L1 or B1 visas to US. Employees of these Indian companies should come out like this protest directly in the interest of every Indian IT employee interest.
raghava Replied to: Unknown
- 22 Aug, 2009
523:
There are likewise situation in Accenture too. The upraisal process were messed up. They key people involved for certain project did promote their like ones and those who really worked too the bad names. The names of the guy is Renjeev Kolanchery. He was a SM with Accenture but had to flee Accenture since he knew people would react badly. I heard he even changed his name. See how coward he stands. He owns a patent which was snatched from an employee promising him a good position in the next upraisal.
I guess we should black list guys like Renjeev Varughese Kolanchery and a few folks who only conduct upraisals favorably to people who invite then for lunch, buy them gadgets and so on.
Lets try to eliminate such folks and help the our IT companions get out from such saddiest professionals and work with nice fellas..
I guess we should black list guys like Renjeev Varughese Kolanchery and a few folks who only conduct upraisals favorably to people who invite then for lunch, buy them gadgets and so on.
Lets try to eliminate such folks and help the our IT companions get out from such saddiest professionals and work with nice fellas..
Pavan Kumar Replied to: Lisa
- 22 Aug, 2009
524:
Now have some fun
Who is the BEST
Infosys, Wipro or TCS?
One day, three consultants, one from Wipro, one from Infosys and one from
TCS, went out for a walk.
"Why don't we prove who is the best among ourselves?"
Why not, said the other two.
The Infosian said "Let's have a test. Whoever makes this monkey laugh,works for the best firm".
Being a pure logical strategist, the person from TCS tried to make the monkey Laugh by telling jokes. The monkey stayed still.
As a more practical consultant, the Wipro guy tried to make funny gestures.
No good, the monkey stayed put.
Now, comes the Infosian. Being the practical guy he was always trained to be, he whispered something into the monkey's ear, and it burst out laughing at him.
The other two were astonished. So the Wipro guy said "OK, let's take another test. Let's make this monkey cry"
So there they went again, applying the same methods as before. The TCS guy narrated sad stories, the Wipro guy made sad gestures, and they failed again.
Then, the Infosian again whispered something into the monkey's ear and oh!
It started crying, patting the Infosian's shoulder!
The other two just could not believe their eyes! So the tcs guy said "OK, you've won twice. If you can win just this one, we will bow to you. Let's make this monkey run".
and he barked at the monkey and ordered him to run. Of course, it stayed where it was. The Wipro guy, true to his type, pushed and prodded the monkey- still No go.
So here comes Infosian, again, and whispers into the monkey's ear. The Monkey just takes off! It runs and runs as fast as it can, as if it was scared to death!
The other two surrendered.
They Said: "OK, we give up.You're the best among us, and you work for the Best firm of the three. But Please, please tell us your secret," they begged him.
"Well", said the Infosian, "The first time I made it laugh, I told I work for Infosys. The next time, I told the monkey how much I get paid, so it started crying.
And then I told that I was here for recruitment!
Who is the BEST
Infosys, Wipro or TCS?
One day, three consultants, one from Wipro, one from Infosys and one from
TCS, went out for a walk.
"Why don't we prove who is the best among ourselves?"
Why not, said the other two.
The Infosian said "Let's have a test. Whoever makes this monkey laugh,works for the best firm".
Being a pure logical strategist, the person from TCS tried to make the monkey Laugh by telling jokes. The monkey stayed still.
As a more practical consultant, the Wipro guy tried to make funny gestures.
No good, the monkey stayed put.
Now, comes the Infosian. Being the practical guy he was always trained to be, he whispered something into the monkey's ear, and it burst out laughing at him.
The other two were astonished. So the Wipro guy said "OK, let's take another test. Let's make this monkey cry"
So there they went again, applying the same methods as before. The TCS guy narrated sad stories, the Wipro guy made sad gestures, and they failed again.
Then, the Infosian again whispered something into the monkey's ear and oh!
It started crying, patting the Infosian's shoulder!
The other two just could not believe their eyes! So the tcs guy said "OK, you've won twice. If you can win just this one, we will bow to you. Let's make this monkey run".
and he barked at the monkey and ordered him to run. Of course, it stayed where it was. The Wipro guy, true to his type, pushed and prodded the monkey- still No go.
So here comes Infosian, again, and whispers into the monkey's ear. The Monkey just takes off! It runs and runs as fast as it can, as if it was scared to death!
The other two surrendered.
They Said: "OK, we give up.You're the best among us, and you work for the Best firm of the three. But Please, please tell us your secret," they begged him.
"Well", said the Infosian, "The first time I made it laugh, I told I work for Infosys. The next time, I told the monkey how much I get paid, so it started crying.
And then I told that I was here for recruitment!
MoveOn Replied to: w@r10ck
- 22 Aug, 2009
525:
There is no Union of IT guys. That's drawback of it. Like in other Organizations, PSUs such union is available & one don't know about laws for it. Any such lawyer, person who can fight for it?
Pankaj Replied to: Lias
- 22 Aug, 2009
526:
Hi All,
I was going through the comments by you guys. Why dont you all join together to help each other in finding a better job rather reporting abuses and using some nasty words. Even my comapany seeks for a good java/j2ee developer who has at least 4 years of experience in these domain .So stop complaining and threw off the unlawful and discouraging job and try finding a better one,if feel you are dynamic.
I was going through the comments by you guys. Why dont you all join together to help each other in finding a better job rather reporting abuses and using some nasty words. Even my comapany seeks for a good java/j2ee developer who has at least 4 years of experience in these domain .So stop complaining and threw off the unlawful and discouraging job and try finding a better one,if feel you are dynamic.
Shaf Replied to: w@r10ck
- 22 Aug, 2009
527:
Hi Lisa, I am all for it and mail ID is aryan50668@rediffmail.com. But remember someone will have to take full time lead on this and has to well versed with labor law and strikes. Strikes are the most powerful tools to disrupt the life of erring companies. This will require lots of dedication and planning.
Aryan Replied to: Lisa
- 22 Aug, 2009
528:
Lisa, I have shared my Email ID already - We are gathering soon to fight this: - sarangi.sr@gmail.com
Smruti Ranjan Replied to: Lisa
- 22 Aug, 2009
530:
Are you the managing director of WIPRO or what hahahaha
Ash Replied to: Lisa
- 22 Aug, 2009
532:
let me know i would also like to join you all.. my personal email id is lucky7.vish@gmail.com
Vish Replied to: Lisa
- 22 Aug, 2009
534:
This is the worst thing to happen.Its very true that we need to stand up and fight against this injustice.These so called Managers should be dealt with proper legal action and the company should be obliged to pay the compensation to the harrased employees.
ababd Replied to: w@r10ck
- 22 Aug, 2009
535:
Thanks Lisa for puting it straight.
Mr Smruti Replied to: Lisa
- 22 Aug, 2009
536:
No one wil help you, unless you help your self.
Please read few of my responses below and email me.
Please read few of my responses below and email me.
Mr. Smruti Ranjan Replied to: Musthafa
- 22 Aug, 2009
537:
On top of it, if the immediate manager wants to retain the employee, manager is told that he will be fired if the employee who you wants to reatsin doesn'tt perform.
Golu Replied to: Golu
- 22 Aug, 2009
538:
Absolutly Correct.....Just good to Shit.
Golu Replied to: Samuel Adams
- 22 Aug, 2009
539:
Wipro always think about operational cost,they don't mind employees and their services in that company.Even if u worked for 5 years,u r in 1 month bench.they will ask u to quit.They lost so many skilled emp,it's not good for company
exwip Replied to: w@r10ck
- 22 Aug, 2009
540:
these companiesa re really the big cheats... they ask their employees to cheat the clients and also bill them very high hrs for work for a task which can be done within few mins.. I once told one the clients that a task could be done by me in a a day .. unaware of the fact that my company's engagement manager had given a proposal to do that task in a week by a 4 member team... the client was happy for my task as it saved time and dollars for them and appreciated my work... but my bosses were very furious with me and threatned me not to say anything to the client befo0re consulting them... these companies say lines like - employee first,.....customer first.. in reality its just .. profit first ... bottime line of the quarter balance sheet is the only thi9ng it matters to them and the managers carer growth is simply based on how much they have helped to get more profit.. noone asks how the hell these managers are making these profits .. by cheating the clients or by asking the employees to work extra hours .... basically getting a task done by 2 people (making them work more hrs/day + weekends) instead of same work done by 6 people... horrible.
victim of such blood suckers Replied to: SKK
- 22 Aug, 2009
541:
No Indian IT company is good .. they just hire people to get ehe most juice out of them and when they they think ...there is no much juice left in aperson.. he is sackedor a situation is created for him to resign on his own or forced to resign like in the case of my brother who used to work for TCS and was aksed to resign saying its better for him to resign rather than bein g fired later. His manager told him and few others saying that in-future there will be a major job cuts in the company so u better resign now and HR will waive his bond money (for those who don't know TCS asks employees to sign a bond of certain amount for certain number of years - say if a n employee leaves the company within those many number of years he/she has to pay TCs the bond amount- ridiculus)...
Anonymus Replied to: w@r10ck
- 22 Aug, 2009
542:
Here I would like to point out one more thing.If somebody joins wipro with some fake experience/fake resume,then the company will terminate his job by conducting background verification.But if the companies dont find proper resource for some projects,then they will show few freshers/inexperiences resourses as TECHNICAL EXPERT,TECHNICAL LEAD etc etc to the clients just to do business and make the client happy saying they have very good pool of resources.Dont you think these companies are even more fake/cheater then anyone else.Just think about it.
SKK Replied to: w@r10ck
- 21 Aug, 2009
543:
what kind of HEAD are you giving? What's the rate?
w@r10ck Replied to: Wipro Hater
- 21 Aug, 2009
544:
hi this is Amit the thigs in wipro are really very bad i worked there for two years and the managers are really very rooode behavior it it will remains then ther come a time when wipro wiill b blacklisted from nasscom shit wipro wipro sucks
Amit Replied to: w@r10ck
- 21 Aug, 2009
545:
I dont know what media is doing .... All NDTV and IBN live are telecasting some small news.
Media,
Please take this into high level. My sincere Request. Dont believe stupid Wipro Management.
Media,
Please take this into high level. My sincere Request. Dont believe stupid Wipro Management.
ere Replied to: w@r10ck
- 21 Aug, 2009
546:
Dear Frnds,
I am one also one Employee in Wipro. I very sad to tell that i am a Wiprotie. Wipro is one of the worst comp in india. We can say. Sathyam is the Best one. There are so many things happening. Terminating ppl immediately and putting them in Enrich (Half Salary). Enrich is the bullshit program where wipro is conducting. Let me tell y\you one example. One of my frnd who has got released from Project. The next day, he did receive the call from HR saying that please come and collect the Enrichment Paper.
I request the GOVT to take necessary action against wipro. Employee are treated as SLAVE by wipro. Entire Top management to be removed. Then only wipro can survive.
Dear Manmohan Ji/Media
Please do some needful to protect the Employee of Wipro.
I am one also one Employee in Wipro. I very sad to tell that i am a Wiprotie. Wipro is one of the worst comp in india. We can say. Sathyam is the Best one. There are so many things happening. Terminating ppl immediately and putting them in Enrich (Half Salary). Enrich is the bullshit program where wipro is conducting. Let me tell y\you one example. One of my frnd who has got released from Project. The next day, he did receive the call from HR saying that please come and collect the Enrichment Paper.
I request the GOVT to take necessary action against wipro. Employee are treated as SLAVE by wipro. Entire Top management to be removed. Then only wipro can survive.
Dear Manmohan Ji/Media
Please do some needful to protect the Employee of Wipro.
Unknown Replied to: w@r10ck
- 21 Aug, 2009
548:
you must have had a really nice upbringing!
w@r10ck Replied to: Anonymous
- 21 Aug, 2009
549:
What happened to Ram guys? Have all of you got back to work after venting your frustration?
Gopi Replied to: mahalinga
- 19 Apr, 2012
550:
Oh Yes. Forgot to mention one more thing..What happened to people against whom Ram had complained? :-D
Nothing...Absolutely Nothing...
This is India...
Nothing...Absolutely Nothing...
This is India...
6thelement Replied to: 6thelement
- 17 Sep, 2010
551:
Hey people...
Was going through this blog to see what had actually happened with Ram..And it was really amusing to see the blogs and people talking for/against companies. But as it happens in India, people just talk talk and talk..They do nothing...After few months, people just stopped speaking and blog is down..thats all..
Point to make:HR people have got such high power to sack employees from organization...Have you heard about HR people getting bribed royally during campus interviews.Why dont people do something to expose them?.:-)
I learnt a trick working in this Indian Companies. Taken from Underworld Culture..Get associated with a Manager and just do whatever he/she tells u to do...And he/she will save you all the time. You can be on bench for 8 months during recession time (Trust Me)...All ratings will be manipulated..You will get hike/promotion..Everything that you want.Ultimately we want money and thats what we work for..Self-respect is something that is long sold...
Remember friends, if you really want to make a difference, unless there is a group effort from each indivisual, its impossible to start a movement against corruption..Again we will not do it...
Jai Hind.
Was going through this blog to see what had actually happened with Ram..And it was really amusing to see the blogs and people talking for/against companies. But as it happens in India, people just talk talk and talk..They do nothing...After few months, people just stopped speaking and blog is down..thats all..
Point to make:HR people have got such high power to sack employees from organization...Have you heard about HR people getting bribed royally during campus interviews.Why dont people do something to expose them?.:-)
I learnt a trick working in this Indian Companies. Taken from Underworld Culture..Get associated with a Manager and just do whatever he/she tells u to do...And he/she will save you all the time. You can be on bench for 8 months during recession time (Trust Me)...All ratings will be manipulated..You will get hike/promotion..Everything that you want.Ultimately we want money and thats what we work for..Self-respect is something that is long sold...
Remember friends, if you really want to make a difference, unless there is a group effort from each indivisual, its impossible to start a movement against corruption..Again we will not do it...
Jai Hind.
6thelement Replied to: mahalinga
- 17 Sep, 2010
552:
yes IT union is very important. silicon india can organise it. yearly meetings can be conducted in important cities. it will also be good place to know people and exchange ideas.
so many MNCs are firing people illegally. if you see anything illegal happening dont hesitate to report to MNC headquarters without fear. atleast they will know what is happening.
so many MNCs are firing people illegally. if you see anything illegal happening dont hesitate to report to MNC headquarters without fear. atleast they will know what is happening.
anonymous Replied to: Smruti Ranjan
- 01 Aug, 2010
553:
Hi not only that what happens to wipro in the world bank deal, when wipro tried to bribe their employees to get some more business world bank has barred wirpo from doing further business with wipro instead they would have black listed this company forever, also i am wipro employee i have seen the same when they want they will ask us to prepare resume by showing more experience just to get the business, Also this is happening more for people whom they are going to place offshore by showing more experience to client and to get more billing rate for the person having less than 1 year experience. Also i have seen they bill the same person in more than one project just by asking him to appear with any weekly or daily client meeting but actually he won't be working in the project, but most of the queries from client will be answered by one senior resource working in that project.
anno Replied to: SKK
- 14 Nov, 2009
554:
You think you are only sane and rest are idiots, how many times you have gone and abide by the policies.
mahalinga Replied to: IamtheSOUL
- 14 Nov, 2009
Beautiful and dress selection, please go to Dresses
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