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Saurabh Gupta

Saurabh Gupta

Founder & CEO
Phonethics Mobile Media

Short Description

As a creative guy and a communications entrepreneur I am deeply interested in how people understand and use digital products.

Brief about company, offerings and foundation of the company

Phonethics is a Digital Media company with expertise in Social Media & Mobile Apps. We were founded in 2006 when we switched over from our earlier avatar of a short form content production company. 

My thoughts related to entrepreneurship/ leadership and management

It’s not for the weak hearted. The joys of entrepreneurship in india are underwhelming specially since the overall infrastructure is crumbling. You cannot provide safe transport for your employees in Mumbai, its not possible to ensure working days due to festivals, flooding and random bandhs. If you can live with this and many other downsides including perhaps a delayed financial reward, start up, else, find a job. On management, I see people around me who work late, meet their kids on weekends and generally burn the candle at both ends. I don’t see the value in this. My team leaves office at 6. I spend time reading, travelling and playing with my kids and get the chance to dabble in a few other ideas that people around me are exploring. Spare bandwidth is essential. If you don’t have it as a leader, it’s a systemic problem. Find better teams and reduce your pace. 

Best company I admire globally

Airtel. Everything about their management style, customer focus, business model is admirable. I am also a big fan of working with partners to build something big. This is something that Airtel has proven with its unique biz model. 

The challenges and lessons learnt to get first customer

We pitched short form content to telcos and showed them stuff they’d never seen before. The wow factor was enough for three major telcos to sign us up. The biggest lesson was that while we closed the ‘sale’ the revenue visibility and transparency was not there. So in a sense you can chase some big brand names as clients but usually theyre not the best paymasters. The client acquisition in the beginning should be as much about revenue as strategic importance. Otherwise there is a false sense that we’re selling something and closing deals while nothing is hitting the bank. 

Most critical decision

In 2010 I had to decide if I wanted a battalion of worker ants or a small posse of Ninjas. I was certain that the Social media services business was getting increasingly commoditized and we had wandered from our initial focus on Mobile. I had to slowly disband my hand picked team which had generic advertising and related soft skills and go after building a more technology oriented organization. It was painful and seemed impossible at times. Today we have 9 Engg headed by a CTO who has more than 9 years of experience in mobile app development, I’m talking PalmOS days. But it didn’t happen in a day. I sold and built mobile product to a client with the help of a tech company in Pune. This became the cornerstone of my conversations in hiring meets. When I met My current CTO, he was amazed that I’d gotten this far and developed a beautiful, functional product without a massive team. It inspired him to come and work with me. Now we’re building this company brick by brick or pixel by pixel. 

Some of the difficulties faced while building product/ solution

As a creative guy and a communications entrepreneur I am deeply interested in how people understand and use digital products. This is even more complex in the context of the Indian society. We’re constantly challenged by this opportunity to build something that can be understood without using language or instructions. If you see one of our web content pieces we created a fun instruction video that doesn’t use any dialogue but outlines the proposition very clearly. People just get it. That is the main difficulty. 


Three big lessons/ mistakes encountered while building company
Raise enough money to build your first POC.Your first POC will fail.Hack, Slash, go hungry but stay in the game so you can build another POC 
Different actions if I rebuild my company from scratch all over again

I’d build a management team and a board fairly early and probably institute a revenue stream right from the start. Sales heals all. 

My role at different dimensions as the company evolved

I am still the Creative Anchor and soulkeeper for the teams. My understanding of creativity and its expression has expanded to interactive media. I read like a maniac. I read on a kindle, my ipad, my phone, in the car everywhere, so I’m contantly discovering new things and then the ones I think are closer to my domain, I go after them till I know more. This is important. As an informed leader you could be performing the same function but the form will evolve. 

Motivation and Drives factor

Creating new things. Blending tech and creative abilities and tools to create things that didn’t exist motivates me. The desire to ‘make a dent in the universe’ drives me. 

Unique about my way of motivating troops

I’ve rebuilt my team from scratch. And I’ve found that loyalty and familiarity are overrated and in fact dangerous. What motivates people is clarity about their roles, clear career path and honesty from the leader. And if you’re sending people into battle be prepared to lead the charge. Nothing gets people fired up like seeing you draw blood. I take sales, tech, product, client meets and almost always ask teams to turn over their worst suppliers and clients to me. And Empathy. On the advice of a friend I’ve scaled back the aggression a bit and started to empathise with the troops. Sometimes it works. 

Way of choosing my people

Merit is the only criteria that draws me to a person. Now we have detailed tests and three rounds of interviews to select people. I find that honesty and ability to stand shoulder to shoulder and take the heat builds the team. 

Risks involved in business and way of addressing

Internal risks such as a sense of Hubris and Inertia are taken care of by constantly innovating and challenging myself and the team. We have constantly exposed ourselves to new aspects of the digital universe ranging from the mundane like a fresh approach to designing lead management systems to Gamification and game design. There is a constant market risk that as a small, independent player, a bigger agency or tech company will eat our lunch. We’ve been able to move the ball constantly by blending Creative design and Technology. As an enterprise the biggest risk we face today is ‘scale’. I’ve personally always treated ‘scale’ as a double edged sword. Grow too fast and you’re spread too thin [resource challenged] and don’t grow fast enough and you risk being the frog in the well. At the moment we’re trying to balance out adding new skills with expanding to new geographies. We’ve expanded our market to the US right now and will evaluate a new office later this year. 

Experience of reaching out to potential investors

Great. We’ve only ever pitched once to raise a small round of angel and we closed it in 6 weeks. 

As a leader how I make sure that I am connecting the right dots

Its not possible to anticipate how everything will turn out and I find this crystal ball gazing a vain and stressful affair. I’m willing to make mistakes and take risks. That’s why I run an enterprise. Connecting the right dots is about hard work and leveraging the right opportunities and not some prescient paranormal skill that people can inculcate. 

Advice for fellow entrepreneurs

Play. As hard as you work.