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Nearly 5000 employees quit TCS
By SiliconIndia | Tuesday, 21 July 2009, 19:43 Hrs |
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The headcount of India's largest software exporter shrank despite a gross addition of staff. According to Hindustan Times, in the latest quarter TCS added a total of 2,828 employees with the total headcount of 1,43,761 at the start of the quarter. If the new hires are taken into consideration, the total employees strength should have reached 1,46,589 by the end of June. However, the firm's headcount was at 1,41,642 as of June 30, 2009, showing a net reduction of 4,947 employees.
A company spokesperson confirmed the staff decline but added that TCS's attrition levels were in line with the industry average. "Our attrition level has remained similar to what it was in the previous quarter. However, since we have controlled gross additions, the overall headcount has come down," said a TCS spokesperson.
The company is hiring fresh graduates as per need, but will honor the 24,885 campus offers it had made last financial year and those students would come on board only from the second quarter (July-September). "About 1,000 have joined this year and the rest would join in a phased manner throughout the year. We are also hiring overseas. For our newly opened Cincinnati campus, we are looking at hiring 250 people this year. For that we have made offers to 111 people from top universities, of which 99 have accepted and 38 already joined," the spokesperson said. Like its competitor Infosys, TCS decided to honor old commitments on campus recruitments while slowing down the hiring of new graduates. But lateral hiring of experienced staff is continuing, though on a low key.
It needs to be seen if these 5,000 employees have in fact quit voluntarily or were they forced to leave by the company.
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1:
Tcs is not company for good and talented person, it's for the person who just do his job, so thepeople of this nature continues the job else most of them quits.and in long run TCS will have very big problem.
Posted by:sajith
- 26 Aug, 2009
2:
I believe most of the readers in this thread have commented in a manner that I consider reckless. One should refrain from commenting on internal policies or company strategies to 'woo' clients. Suggesting that "This was the case" without knowing the details etc. is not good.
Logic would suggest that so many employees would not resign by themselves considering the current economic situation (stats can defy logic). Forcing low performing employees to submit their resignation is not a new thing, I have heard that this happens in other companies as well (though I cannot personally vouch for statements made by others).
I believe a company should take some sort of action esp. in the case of an economic downturn in order to maintain its sales/profit. Forcing people to quit might not be the best of ethics, but I feel it is 'the best' for both employee and employer. (Being fired/firing is definitely not) Everyone would have their differences with their employee in terms of hikes, promotions, facilities etc. these are matters, which an employee has to deal with in order to grow in an organization.
I would also suggest readers
1) To refrain from applying the rules of 'Universal Generalization'.
2) Not to assume that the grass is greener on the other side.
3) Not to compare the solution sector with any other (that is like comparing apples and oranges!)
Logic would suggest that so many employees would not resign by themselves considering the current economic situation (stats can defy logic). Forcing low performing employees to submit their resignation is not a new thing, I have heard that this happens in other companies as well (though I cannot personally vouch for statements made by others).
I believe a company should take some sort of action esp. in the case of an economic downturn in order to maintain its sales/profit. Forcing people to quit might not be the best of ethics, but I feel it is 'the best' for both employee and employer. (Being fired/firing is definitely not) Everyone would have their differences with their employee in terms of hikes, promotions, facilities etc. these are matters, which an employee has to deal with in order to grow in an organization.
I would also suggest readers
1) To refrain from applying the rules of 'Universal Generalization'.
2) Not to assume that the grass is greener on the other side.
3) Not to compare the solution sector with any other (that is like comparing apples and oranges!)
Posted by:Vivek
- 28 Jul, 2009
3:
whoa! what is this, i dont really want to comment, but all who commented here i want to pass a message, without wasting time let us think together about an idea / product / strategy with which we can pull the situation back up. If any body interested we can make a group or form and go ahead, even i am ready if any body having a mind blowing and effective idea, to invest money as well as time to find the funding and work on it. Really, Be positive and be constructive..
Posted by:Althaf
- 27 Jul, 2009
4:
Hey Altaf,
Are you broker. Your comments show up.
Are you broker. Your comments show up.
naveen Replied to: Althaf
- 13 Aug, 2009
5:
this is a luky opportunity for fresh mba students ,lets wait for jobfair
Posted by:k.ramesh
- 26 Jul, 2009
6:
TCS will neither give increment , nor allow any employees to get job in other companies since HR will do a tie-up with any company those recruits TCS employees
Posted by:Nevetha Kamal
- 24 Jul, 2009
7:
If any organisation in Bpo sector,starts recruting some 100's of TCS employees,The TCS HR have some settlement with that recruiting company, to stop people quitting from TCS.
Posted by:LALITHA
- 24 Jul, 2009
8:
We are proud of the 5000 employees, who left this bad job.
We work from 12 to 14 hours in a day. TCS BPO's aren't following the labour acts. We are not paid yearly increments though the company gets profits in last quarter's.
We work from 12 to 14 hours in a day. TCS BPO's aren't following the labour acts. We are not paid yearly increments though the company gets profits in last quarter's.
Posted by:Kameswaran kay
- 24 Jul, 2009
9:
If TCS is doing slavery what else can we expect from its result. It is making people work 14-18 hours a day like dogs and slaves. Take example of SaaS project in bangalore where British telecom people Ashish Gupta, Paul Ballard, Anil Kasalnati are making people work 14-18 hours a day, day and night like dogs/slaves . Even TCS people Satish, Phani, Suresh Iytha are also forcing people to work like this. Can any one stop this slavery Already 13 + people left from this project alone so think what might be attrition rate
Ex TCS Replied to: Kameswaran kay
- 06 Feb, 2010
10:
People are Made to work Like Slaves in SAAS Project In TCS dont Join This Project.
The Most Benifited Persons in this Project are TCS Managers.
ur Personal Life will be Screwed in this Project.
People are Forced to Leave the Company They are not given any options for the Project Change from Managers.
People are Made to work for More Hours in this Project By the Managers Dont join this Project
there is a lot of politics played from the Managers in this Project.
if ur allocated to this project its better not to join this Project.
The Most Benifited Persons in this Project are TCS Managers.
ur Personal Life will be Screwed in this Project.
People are Forced to Leave the Company They are not given any options for the Project Change from Managers.
People are Made to work for More Hours in this Project By the Managers Dont join this Project
there is a lot of politics played from the Managers in this Project.
if ur allocated to this project its better not to join this Project.
Panna lal Hyderabad Replied to: Ex TCS
- 20 Feb, 2011
11:
Even, in recession, whenever, the employees are crushed or there working hours gent increased more than 10 hours, there are valuable employees who left their jobs
Posted by:KAMESWARAN KAY
- 24 Jul, 2009
12:
I'm panna from west bengal, good job at least this will force the readers to think for a moment but last 6 month it market down(wellknown), how much each of us....done for our country.now i'm MCA pursuing(4th seam completed).
Posted by:Panna lal pal
- 22 Jul, 2009
13:
For your information TCS has made a huge profit even in recession period last quarter by making employees work like a labour but has not given a single rupee increment to any of them. I agree with kameshwaran. Panna, if you don\'t know inside story of any company don\'t post ur comments.
naveen Replied to: Panna lal pal
- 13 Aug, 2009
14:
Dont place this Irrelevant comments.. Stop Doing this..
Jvs Replied to: Panna lal pal
- 24 Jul, 2009
15:
Hey panna, you are just pursuing MCA you haven't completed. When u complete & take the job u'll get to know what yearly increment really mean to employee. I'm TCS employee.
naveen Replied to: Jvs
- 13 Aug, 2009
16:
Hello friends, stop thinking about this IT jobs now, its becoming like gambling, people from North karnataka must remember below line "BANDRA BHARAT HUNNIMI HODAR HOLI HUNNIMI" our IT jobs becoming like this now. so nanantu ooarige hogi holadag mast dudiyava, if anybody inerested pls join me i have enough land:)
Posted by:Ishwar
- 22 Jul, 2009
19:
Hey dude....super idea...and u r saying absolutely correct....even i too thinking in the same line
Shantanu Replied to: Ishwar
- 23 Jul, 2009
21:
yeah,very true.we need to focus on what exactly is needed to the growth of our country.Prices of food items,vegetables are reaching sky.Atleast by doing farming n agriculture would definitely help.I'm ON for this :-)
vasumathi Replied to: Ishwar
- 23 Jul, 2009
22:
Vasumathi, go ahead
Do farming...
:)
Do farming...
:)
naveen Replied to: vasumathi
- 13 Aug, 2009
23:
One more thing...is it true that TCS earned its 50 % of revenue from its foriegn centres like the one in Cincinati and Hungary. They say that indian salaries have bloated too much so that they are much in par with the western ones. They now get cheaper labour in phillipinesn malaysia, Latin america. So TCS will also now ship jobs abroad. India now no longer a main playground for TCS and other IT majors...Du u have any details regarding this..?
And regarding ur comments of employees leaving due to personal problems...Yes thr r some who leave for that but thats due to TCS new policies of extended working hours, cutting down on transport and Shift changes...many of my frnds have left for this reason.
And regarding ur comments of employees leaving due to personal problems...Yes thr r some who leave for that but thats due to TCS new policies of extended working hours, cutting down on transport and Shift changes...many of my frnds have left for this reason.
Posted by:Anand
- 22 Jul, 2009
24:
I work in TCS-BPO Mumbai. I see deep trodden frustration and a feeling of Dullness spread all over TCS. No doubt ppl still believe in TATA brand but no increaments, no promotions and only talk n talk. moreover increased working hours and more stricter SLA's have really stricken all. All teams r downsized putting more pressure on each.
But thankfully markets are opening and only in last 1 month 10 employees have quit job from my team of 90.
And i think due to this increased attrition TCS finally decided to release the promotions which were long overdue.
But interestingly they havent yet disclosed the effective dates yet.
But thankfully markets are opening and only in last 1 month 10 employees have quit job from my team of 90.
And i think due to this increased attrition TCS finally decided to release the promotions which were long overdue.
But interestingly they havent yet disclosed the effective dates yet.
Posted by:Anand
- 22 Jul, 2009
25:
HEY ,DID THIS THOUGHT EVER CROSS UR MIND THT WHETHER U WILL GET ANY PROMOTION WITHIN A YEAR OR SO..IF SO WHAT ?TO BPO HIGHER LEVEL.DON'T TCS HAVE THAT FASCILITY TO PROMOTE AN ABLE EMPLOYEE WITHIN THE ORGANISATION TO A TESTER OR DEVELOPER POST BY PROVIDING ADEQUATE TRAINING .IT WOULD LEAD THEM TO INTERNAL GROWTH AND WON'T BE COMPROMISED IN TERMS OF QUALITY TOO.AS THESE EMPLOYEES WOULD HAVE KNOWN THE WORKING ETHICS OF THE ORGANAISATION BY THIS TIME HENCE IT WOULD BE EASY FOR THEM TO HANDLE PRESSURE ,THUS LEADING TO LESS LAYOFFS.
Rahul Replied to: Anand
- 14 May, 2010
26:
..I find this a very odd situation--people being asked to comment on a subject none knows enough about and hence, each one has an opinion but no one knows what is happening in TCS.
..In any case, the one's who are giving their opinions are not really affected by what is going down in TCS. In the final analysis, TCS has to decide what they want done with their employees and go ahead an do it--whether it is thought right or wrong by the less informed.
..In any case, the one's who are giving their opinions are not really affected by what is going down in TCS. In the final analysis, TCS has to decide what they want done with their employees and go ahead an do it--whether it is thought right or wrong by the less informed.
Posted by:Ravi Rajan
- 22 Jul, 2009
27:
5000 people cannot resign at once are they opnening a new company of their own
Posted by:vijay
- 22 Jul, 2009
28:
Idiot, its d count over a quarter and over a month or week! Wat do u think u r doin on dis plannet?
TCSian Replied to: vijay
- 23 Jul, 2009
29:
Its all about the platform where some people are Secure and some are Insecure. The Secured people think that they themselves are efficient and intelligent and Unsecured people- they cannot compete with us. they just do not deserve, so the secured people comments from that point of view. They feel grateful to the platform (company)because being secured is like a reward. being titled as efficient is like the most honored. So they write comments according to that.
The Unsecured people are in trauma and they see that platform(company) has done unfair with them. They could have done that or so.
Being Secured and Being Unsecured is just shifting of thoughts in the same mind or by the similar mind. And this mind game has been played by the corporates since their incorporations. And see, what a wonder The decision Makers are the Secured people they think that they are making rules but unfortunately they themselves are being ruled by ..? .... by the Corporations ! There is no person, there is only corporations. I DON'T FEEL LIKE WRITING MORE..YOU MAY RESPOND IF YOU WISH ME TO WRITE
They are based on war based ideologies.
There must be something else but not this.
The Unsecured people are in trauma and they see that platform(company) has done unfair with them. They could have done that or so.
Being Secured and Being Unsecured is just shifting of thoughts in the same mind or by the similar mind. And this mind game has been played by the corporates since their incorporations. And see, what a wonder The decision Makers are the Secured people they think that they are making rules but unfortunately they themselves are being ruled by ..? .... by the Corporations ! There is no person, there is only corporations. I DON'T FEEL LIKE WRITING MORE..YOU MAY RESPOND IF YOU WISH ME TO WRITE
They are based on war based ideologies.
There must be something else but not this.
Posted by:Dr Gautam Dev
- 22 Jul, 2009
30:
All HR's ARE DOLLS...CONTROL IS SOMEWHERE...
Posted by:KARTHIK
- 22 Jul, 2009
31:
Circastic reply.. Nothing is gonna happen if we spend time like this
RRBB Replied to: KARTHIK
- 29 Jul, 2009
32:
i agree to it especially the ones who butter their bosses for promotion n personal favours
hafiz Replied to: KARTHIK
- 22 Jul, 2009
34:
I believe you are one of those sbvcdq.
PaPa Replied to: sbvcdq
- 23 Jul, 2009
35:
5,000 employees leaving TCS on their own is complete wrong statement. I know how these thing works. Out of 5000 people or more, for sure I know few of them. These people were asked to resign in close door discussion. Majority of them have not resigned on their own. These people were forced by TCS to resign but there will not be any proof because this kind of crap work goes verbally.
Posted by:Sanjeev Singh
- 22 Jul, 2009
36:
definetly TCS made them to resign to reduce the losses
surendra kumar Replied to: Sanjeev Singh
- 23 Jul, 2009
37:
I recommednd the Group Chairman of TCS to wind Up Software division IN India and give more stress in hardware and networking as been in China and Korea. When are we going to be like them and when are we going to lead the devloping countries. it's high time for all the Software Companies In india to close the Shutters of Software and try to do something in the consumer arena again like China and other south Asian countries.
Today we can tell boldly that India's softwaRE eXPORTS IS SO MANY CRORES. BUT IN GENERAL ARE WE SELF SUFFICIENT. EVEN NOW WE ARE APTLY BEGGING WITH THE WESTERNISED WORLD TO GIVE MONEY FOR GROWTH iF THAT HAS TO BE STOPPED PUT IN A LOT OF EFFORT IN r & d AND MAKE THE COMPANIES STRONGER. tHEN ONLY INDIA CAN BE ATLEAST LIKE hONGKONG. oTHERWISE sOFTWARE GIANTS IN INDIA WILL BE OAYING IN LAKHS AND ONE DAY EVRY SOFTWARE EXPERT WILL BE A bEGGAR. sO pLEASE sTOP IT.
Today we can tell boldly that India's softwaRE eXPORTS IS SO MANY CRORES. BUT IN GENERAL ARE WE SELF SUFFICIENT. EVEN NOW WE ARE APTLY BEGGING WITH THE WESTERNISED WORLD TO GIVE MONEY FOR GROWTH iF THAT HAS TO BE STOPPED PUT IN A LOT OF EFFORT IN r & d AND MAKE THE COMPANIES STRONGER. tHEN ONLY INDIA CAN BE ATLEAST LIKE hONGKONG. oTHERWISE sOFTWARE GIANTS IN INDIA WILL BE OAYING IN LAKHS AND ONE DAY EVRY SOFTWARE EXPERT WILL BE A bEGGAR. sO pLEASE sTOP IT.
Posted by:Jothivasu
- 22 Jul, 2009
38:
in this natter HCL is far good .. all are making fool wiithout security... money is not honey... securiy is wealth
bjardhan Replied to: Jothivasu
- 22 Jul, 2009
39:
I was not fired from HCl but i left the company on my own due to the current Policies against the support function like QA. They gave increments only to delivery teams & not to support functions inspite of working on an average of 12 HRS a day & getting a rating of OUTSTANDING which is the highest rating considered in HCL from the reporting manager. They gave a simple relpy that the current policies is not allowing them to give any increment but at the same time they have given increments to delivery teams why such bias attitude
Rajesh Subramaniyan Replied to: bjardhan
- 31 Jul, 2009
42:
China is making money in hardwares, so it hit like anything in recession. After seeing India, they are trying to make their leg stronger in software offshoring. Every country has their own talented people in specific area to develop their economy.
Dont underestimate the demand for software consultation in future. I am seeing after some years, we will be the no1 global sofware leaders.
If you think India is still devloping country, think abt the following,
1) Population
2) education
3) how come the reliance family is the no1 richest in world after all worked only in India.
4) have u heard abt our black money in Swiss bank. Interest for black money from swiss bank will be sufficient for India's 1 year budget.
5) Black money is estimated to be 5 times more than our India's debt.
6) political leaders
7) corruption
8) Talent people's attitude to work for foreign not for India.
9) above all, think what you have done for India to make it a developed country
Dont underestimate the demand for software consultation in future. I am seeing after some years, we will be the no1 global sofware leaders.
If you think India is still devloping country, think abt the following,
1) Population
2) education
3) how come the reliance family is the no1 richest in world after all worked only in India.
4) have u heard abt our black money in Swiss bank. Interest for black money from swiss bank will be sufficient for India's 1 year budget.
5) Black money is estimated to be 5 times more than our India's debt.
6) political leaders
7) corruption
8) Talent people's attitude to work for foreign not for India.
9) above all, think what you have done for India to make it a developed country
Mahesh Replied to: Jothivasu
- 22 Jul, 2009
43:
I agree Mahesh , good job at least this will force the readers to think for a moment , how much each of us....done for our country.
Pradeep Replied to: Mahesh
- 22 Jul, 2009
44:
I strongly accept and believe in R&D and your post is really commendable
Suren Replied to: Jothivasu
- 22 Jul, 2009
45:
I dont believe in it I have couple of folks with TCS they are doing pretty well out of more then lac only 5000 and some other have problem hard to believe. The name and clients TCS work with itself reflects the image of the company.TCS is my dream company to work with I wish to be a part of it.Readers please ignore the comments.
Posted by:Amit Sharma
- 22 Jul, 2009
46:
Dear Friend its not the same company that we joined, it was known for its best HR policies.
Now only incremnets are for Board of directors(4 crores).
No promotions, no increments, Increased working hours, torturing in Name of SOX violations for small issues , No recognisation for your work etc.....
has become comman in TCS
Try to conmtact your friends in CTS or Infy and you will be able to compare logically , we cann't stay in well & say it is best, it is best ... Come out of it & see real world you will know things have changed a lot
Now only incremnets are for Board of directors(4 crores).
No promotions, no increments, Increased working hours, torturing in Name of SOX violations for small issues , No recognisation for your work etc.....
has become comman in TCS
Try to conmtact your friends in CTS or Infy and you will be able to compare logically , we cann't stay in well & say it is best, it is best ... Come out of it & see real world you will know things have changed a lot
Singh Replied to: Amit Sharma
- 23 Jul, 2009
47:
Dear Mr. Singh,
I think you are not updated with current scenario even if you are aware may be you dont want to accept.Please come out of this misconception that the scenario would remain the same or it will be completely against us it is very tough and companies which we represent also have commitments and challenges only expectation would give us nothing we should always expect return no body likes the pressure dont we see our boss also working hard with us when we are asked to work hard, this is what is required at this time. If the company has accepted i think employees should also.
I think you are not updated with current scenario even if you are aware may be you dont want to accept.Please come out of this misconception that the scenario would remain the same or it will be completely against us it is very tough and companies which we represent also have commitments and challenges only expectation would give us nothing we should always expect return no body likes the pressure dont we see our boss also working hard with us when we are asked to work hard, this is what is required at this time. If the company has accepted i think employees should also.
Amit Sharma Replied to: Singh
- 23 Jul, 2009
48:
You are living in dreams, go and joi TCS in recession , once they turn you 180 degree and kick ur ass , you will realise !
One of my friend was kicked out bcoz project got finished and company has no work in that skill!
One of my friend was kicked out bcoz project got finished and company has no work in that skill!
Harry Replied to: Amit Sharma
- 22 Jul, 2009
49:
Dude ask your friend to pull up his socks I wonder why did among more then my friends and 1Lac employees your friend was being kicked off. It is the problem of your friend who probably was not a very good performer. I have my friends who have got new projects 2 months before and also when they got confirmed the last month there CTC is also increased by 1K. I dont deny about the economic down turn but you will have to make yourself a very strong competitor to fight back and to save your ASS out of the kicks.
Amit Sharma Replied to: Harry
- 23 Jul, 2009
50:
I tried to read the comments. Sorry to say most of what I read were written in very poor English. I hope this is not the standard of these people, they could do better. If not, it really reflects very poorly on them.
Posted by:Venu
- 22 Jul, 2009
51:
Venu, standards of english is not reflection of the standard of people. Techies are not trained to write great English. I bet you are not a smart techie because you wrote good english. You are fit for writing job than coding! Having said that, if the standards of these techie are poor then why did TCS hire them in first place? Don't you think it would then be reflection of the HR team back at TCS? They didn't do their job right.
Shankar Replied to: Venu
- 22 Jul, 2009
52:
Hi Agree to shankars comment.people are thinking that only software is great........i have seen people in IT firms who are not having a proper knowledge on subject, spoken english......etc......i really dont know how all they get jobs in firms like TCS god knows......one thing is sure...IT boom is coming to end......hope now all r treated equally
sudarshan Replied to: Shankar
- 22 Jul, 2009
53:
TCS, just like any other company does hire people with poor communication skills (verbal and written). I think Venu was talking about the quality of English in the comments here, not of TCS employees.
And yes, the quality of your written communication does determine the quality of software professional you are. Software engineers write code, but communicating with your fellow "coder", customers, management is just as important as coding. I would agree with Venu, the quality of the comments is not good.
And yes, the quality of your written communication does determine the quality of software professional you are. Software engineers write code, but communicating with your fellow "coder", customers, management is just as important as coding. I would agree with Venu, the quality of the comments is not good.
Abhik Replied to: Shankar
- 22 Jul, 2009
54:
Never,good english never determines the quality of Software professional. I know the people came out from IITs and joined companies like microsoft,oracle etc. who are not good at english. But still the companies hired them for their tech skills. After all communication can be carried out by any means.
GSV Replied to: Abhik
- 04 Aug, 2009
55:
i am employee of TCS.. the hr policies in bangalore is very shit thing i have seen... They will screw you mentally with lot of work pressure and make u work more than 12 hours... they suck your blood. like liches sucks.. and day by day u will start hate ur company.. and u itself resign one day..
1.Read the Hr policies and ask if u have any doubt on that
2. before joining the project pls see how the project works and u like it
1.Read the Hr policies and ask if u have any doubt on that
2. before joining the project pls see how the project works and u like it
Posted by:geetha reddy
- 22 Jul, 2009
56:
hi geetha garima here i am to join tcs is it a good company whts the working senario there should i join or not
garima Replied to: geetha reddy
- 26 Jul, 2009
57:
TCS has infact fired people right and left as if to satisfy some HR policies wishes. There has been cases wherein employees were threatened to resign. Any one should think twice before joining TCS.
Posted by:sunil
- 22 Jul, 2009
58:
Right, TCS is like Hewlett Packard, firing people left, right and centre..
I have heard it is worse off in HP where the directors play politics to push people out..And there are various interest groups, the Bongs, the North Indians, the South Indians, the Marwaris etc. Each have their own gangs and it is quite interesting to see how a Bong director preys on other groups to lay off people..Also, some directors get rid off females if they resist their sexual advances.. Hewlett Packard has been preaching big ethics but what happens in the Indian subsidiary of this company is a SHAME for IT.
I have heard it is worse off in HP where the directors play politics to push people out..And there are various interest groups, the Bongs, the North Indians, the South Indians, the Marwaris etc. Each have their own gangs and it is quite interesting to see how a Bong director preys on other groups to lay off people..Also, some directors get rid off females if they resist their sexual advances.. Hewlett Packard has been preaching big ethics but what happens in the Indian subsidiary of this company is a SHAME for IT.
Biswanath Replied to: sunil
- 22 Jul, 2009
59:
Hi
I am an employee of TCS myself based in chennai. Almost more then 90% percent of the employee were fired. The style of firing in TCS is so polish. They would call you say "We would like to have a few words regarding your relationship with the company" and would ask you to be meet them some office. In chennai it was TCS office in Thoraipakkam (commonly known as Chennai One). What happens there with the bloody HR is big Drama. They would dictate your resignation letter and tell you they if you resign the same day all you PF bla bla bla would be taken care. Its not only satyam which fakes employee counts and employee experience. TCS too does it. A fresher with just 4 months of experience would be presented to the clients as if he had 3 yrs of experience and would be billed by the client accordingly. God damn that guy would have not been out of his college by that time. I seriously think the management should go through the "TCS CODE OF ETHICS" which they chart out every year. and change there experience certainty to experience uncertainty.
I am an employee of TCS myself based in chennai. Almost more then 90% percent of the employee were fired. The style of firing in TCS is so polish. They would call you say "We would like to have a few words regarding your relationship with the company" and would ask you to be meet them some office. In chennai it was TCS office in Thoraipakkam (commonly known as Chennai One). What happens there with the bloody HR is big Drama. They would dictate your resignation letter and tell you they if you resign the same day all you PF bla bla bla would be taken care. Its not only satyam which fakes employee counts and employee experience. TCS too does it. A fresher with just 4 months of experience would be presented to the clients as if he had 3 yrs of experience and would be billed by the client accordingly. God damn that guy would have not been out of his college by that time. I seriously think the management should go through the "TCS CODE OF ETHICS" which they chart out every year. and change there experience certainty to experience uncertainty.
Posted by:zanani
- 22 Jul, 2009
60:
I would like to suggest you that, please dont write your internal strategies in such type of blogs. It makes bad representation of our software industry.So clients will not believe us and they will try other option too.
Ashwani Replied to: zanani
- 24 Jul, 2009
61:
This is scary. I have been asked to report to thoraipakkam. It's 2012 but still not that safe from recession!
Rebel Replied to: zanani
- 25 Apr, 2012
62:
All you guys are right. I am also one such guy who left the job during the peak of recession, But not from TCS from a different company. There has to be 5000 different reasons for these kind of attrition. Now I am better off as an Independent consultant.
Posted by:Ajeesh Venugopalan
- 22 Jul, 2009
63:
Well I was one of those rare breed who quit TCS at the height of recession 3 months back to start my own venture. Good..bad..or..ugly..I am much better off now mentally atleast.
Posted by:9919
- 22 Jul, 2009
64:
Hi Sir,I am swapnil(fresher)B.E.(I.T).May I work for ur own venture?9665720592.
Swapnil Alkari Replied to: 9919
- 22 Jul, 2009
65:
please let me know the details of your new venture....i am intereted....prsently with an IT co working as a Business Analyst....gautam 9711166536
gautam Replied to: 9919
- 22 Jul, 2009
66:
mate 9919, let me know if you are interested in taking partners in your venture
caps Replied to: 9919
- 22 Jul, 2009
67:
I'm not sure you remember me could use some help from you. I have my own business too apart from my job and I'm in an expansion mode right now. I'm looking for 3-4 sharp people who would be interested in building up something of their own in their spare time in the evenings and weekends and as a result create a huge fortune for themselves too (that is the ultimate aim of any business anyways). I was just wondering if you would be interested in looking at something which may open up new possibilities for you.
Just wanted to check if you would be interested in diversifiying your source of income. I would appreciate if you could revert back at the earliest,
regards,
manoj..09730040526
Just wanted to check if you would be interested in diversifiying your source of income. I would appreciate if you could revert back at the earliest,
regards,
manoj..09730040526
manoj Replied to: 9919
- 22 Jul, 2009
68:
Hi Manoj
I am Padmapriya, could you send me the project details, i am also interested...
I am Padmapriya, could you send me the project details, i am also interested...
Padmapriya Jain Replied to: manoj
- 22 Jul, 2009
69:
Dont Join TCS for the BT Project here the Managers Like Satish, Phani, Suresh Iytha,Murali will make u to work like a Slaves Even the BT people want the people in this project to work like slaves.
if u ask for release from this project u will be forced to move out from the company.
never join this project or refer any of ur friend in this project
they will make ur life miserable.
if u ask for release from this project u will be forced to move out from the company.
never join this project or refer any of ur friend in this project
they will make ur life miserable.
Manu Replied to: Padmapriya Jain
- 26 Feb, 2011
70:
hi this is nayeem doing b.tech in jnt university
how about a placement in TCS
how about a placement in TCS
nayeem Replied to: 9919
- 22 Jul, 2009
71:
Hi Manoj,
Could u pleae send me the business proposition. I am intrested.
Could u pleae send me the business proposition. I am intrested.
Prafulla Replied to: manoj
- 22 Jul, 2009
73:
I am interested. If possible please share with me.
Saurav Replied to: manoj
- 22 Jul, 2009
74:
Hi Manoj
I would like to join with you so please send me the details of work.
I would like to join with you so please send me the details of work.
Prashant Kokil Replied to: manoj
- 22 Jul, 2009
75:
Can u send me the details regading the bussiness Prospect tht u are refering to.
I will appriciate if you can do so.
Regards,
Sameer Shrivastava
9810340041
I will appriciate if you can do so.
Regards,
Sameer Shrivastava
9810340041
Samee Shrivastava Replied to: manoj
- 22 Jul, 2009
76:
Hi ,
Can u send me the details regading the bussiness Prospect tht u are refering to
Can u send me the details regading the bussiness Prospect tht u are refering to
Puja Replied to: manoj
- 22 Jul, 2009
77:
hi i would like to work in weekends and freetimes. may i know wats the job?
lingaraj Replied to: manoj
- 22 Jul, 2009
78:
Dont Join TCS for the BT Project here the Managers Like Satish, Phani, Suresh Iytha,Murali will male u to work like a Slaves Even the BT people want the people in this project to work like slaves.
if u ask for release from this project u will be forced to move out from the company.
dont refer to this project or dont join this project in this company.
if u ask for release from this project u will be forced to move out from the company.
dont refer to this project or dont join this project in this company.
Bob Replied to: manoj
- 26 Feb, 2011
79:
life has become worst these days.........jina yaha marna yaha iske siva jana kaha......life is a game...play it.....
Posted by:praveen
- 22 Jul, 2009
80:
You are saying right.I think u r playing well with life. keep it up dude.
Vijay Replied to: praveen
- 25 Jul, 2009
81:
I'm not sure you remember me could use some help from you. I have my own business too apart from my job and I'm in an expansion mode right now. I'm looking for 3-4 sharp people who would be interested in building up something of their own in their spare time in the evenings and weekends and as a result create a huge fortune for themselves too (that is the ultimate aim of any business anyways). I was just wondering if you would be interested in looking at something which may open up new possibilities for you.
Just wanted to check if you would be interested in diversifiying your source of income. I would appreciate if you could revert back at the earliest,
regards,
manoj..09730040526
Just wanted to check if you would be interested in diversifiying your source of income. I would appreciate if you could revert back at the earliest,
regards,
manoj..09730040526
manoj Replied to: praveen
- 22 Jul, 2009
82:
How come an vertical growing company let 5000 employees go home... this is complete non sense.... and bull shit.. there should be a specific reason, the employees have not gone mad to resign the jobs during the recission feast.... think twice before giving the statement.
Posted by:ranjith
- 22 Jul, 2009
84:
buddy, u r right! They wont have left the company by themselves. TCS would have forced them to leave by themselves or else they will fire them. In such situation, the employee would think it is better to leave by himself. This is what is happening in TCS since this recession.
Ram Replied to: ranjith
- 22 Jul, 2009
85:
I am indirectly associated with TCS. from very near resource i have came to know that it is the HR team who is playing mind game with their resources. They literaly target the resources whom they think is not productive and without intimating them directly they make them impulsive to quit so that TCS corporate image remains as it is. A smart way to deal with recession.
Pratik Replied to: Ram
- 22 Jul, 2009
86:
I agree with siva.. Its completely makes no sense of resigning the job at recession and no one dares to resign a job on his own at this time. No company is hiring professionals at this time even if they are hiring the recruitment count is very less and pay is also not worth.So if one dares to resign on his own he should have a very strong reason. If its all the 5K employees then there should b 5K very strong reasons. Hmmm.... This makes no sense to tell that they hv left on their own.
Posted by:Rakesh
- 22 Jul, 2009
87:
I don't think that all 5000 Employees have been forced to Leave the Company. I'm in to recruitment and i know TCS employees having very good skill set within and they may get job anywhere. So i guess 40% Employees definately have got better job anywhere, 10% emplyees should have theier own problem (Marriage relocation). And rest may may be Non Performer in which 50% must left without got fired, and rest 1250 people must asked to leave the co. And this is happening in All Top Companies. And the Plus point with TCS is their employees are highly skilled in respective domain so don't worry about their career.
Posted by:Gaurav
- 22 Jul, 2009
88:
Yes, I agreed ur comment. I was also in tcs left myself since my project got over. I may be pushed into bench. I don't want to take risk being in the bench. Like me many peopele would have left like this.
Yamini Replied to: Gaurav
- 22 Jul, 2009
89:
WOW.. Wonderful stats of 5K reasons.. but i dont think it all happens at a time..
Rakesh Replied to: Gaurav
- 22 Jul, 2009
90:
Finally,
40% being employed invariable of domain and pay scale - so people wake up as per above the stats 2000 vacancies were available... and even more!!
10% own problem - 500 with own problem at a time!
50% non-performer - 2500 non-performer, even if they are tracked for say a quarter it should not go beyond 500-700!
40% being employed invariable of domain and pay scale - so people wake up as per above the stats 2000 vacancies were available... and even more!!
10% own problem - 500 with own problem at a time!
50% non-performer - 2500 non-performer, even if they are tracked for say a quarter it should not go beyond 500-700!
karthik raja Replied to: Gaurav
- 22 Jul, 2009
91:
regarding ur concerns...
{10% own problem - 500 with own problem at a time!...
50% non-performer - should not go beyond 500-700!}
these percentages 50% and 40% are on a base of 5000...if you look at as an overall percentage..considering tcs has 1.4 lac plus employees...2500 non-performers is 'really' not a big deal.
i was in tcs and had outstanding 5 ratings throughout but with promotion freezed...many ppl like me where left with no choice.
{10% own problem - 500 with own problem at a time!...
50% non-performer - should not go beyond 500-700!}
these percentages 50% and 40% are on a base of 5000...if you look at as an overall percentage..considering tcs has 1.4 lac plus employees...2500 non-performers is 'really' not a big deal.
i was in tcs and had outstanding 5 ratings throughout but with promotion freezed...many ppl like me where left with no choice.
ajit Replied to: karthik raja
- 22 Jul, 2009
92:
Still, 2500 non-performers not acceptable. Then it should only be a training center for whatever the employees lag in, again COST matters?
karthik raja Replied to: ajit
- 22 Jul, 2009
93:
Euphemistically one might call it, being invited to leave. And very graciously one accepts this invitation and both the parties separate without any visible quarrels. Employer & Employee both are happy because the records are clean.
Its the Indian mentality of maitaining status quo as the employee may think of future with other or same employer. India has huge volume of manpower yet it has limited employer names to talk about. I think we are about to hit the next level of employers, other than the known names.
Its the Indian mentality of maitaining status quo as the employee may think of future with other or same employer. India has huge volume of manpower yet it has limited employer names to talk about. I think we are about to hit the next level of employers, other than the known names.
Posted by:Abhishek M
- 22 Jul, 2009
94:
They have no choice but to fire old employees. They have to make a place all new 24000 freshers in this recession hit time. It is good to recruit freshers as they cost less.
Posted by:Abhi
- 22 Jul, 2009
95:
truely...
people TCS has fired are well experienced and can get jobs with the xperience they have...they dont prefer firing freshers as thy cost less are better when productivity is required. Work more than any damn kicked off personals . So this is any day a better way of dealing with recession.
people TCS has fired are well experienced and can get jobs with the xperience they have...they dont prefer firing freshers as thy cost less are better when productivity is required. Work more than any damn kicked off personals . So this is any day a better way of dealing with recession.
ritu Replied to: Abhi
- 22 Jul, 2009
96:
Whats their fate after a year or so...
karthik raja Replied to: Abhi
- 22 Jul, 2009
98:
Many of us said that TCS call people and ask them to either sign the resignation letter or they will fire him or her. This is even better. Atleast they wont have to say that they were fired due to non-performance while searching for another job.
First --
They are in business and they have all the rights to hire and fire. Humanity can not be the only policy. If they are keeping people then people must perform at least at satisfaction level and if they are not performing then they are going away from their moral duty. In such cases, TCS also have right to go away from the humanity.
Second ---
Survival of fittest is applicable in the comparable scenario. If we have 10 people and we need to fire 5 out of them due to any reason (may be recession) then we all would like to keep the top five people. It doesn't mean that the 5 fired people are not talented, but, they are less fit for the respective company. Just imagine yourself at their position (top management) ... what will you do when your strategy is going wrong due to recession i.e. external events, will you continue paying unnecessary or will ask them to leave If you continue, your balance sheet will go red. What will you answer to your stakeholders
Boss, its business, they are employer and we are employees. We all think in a profitable manner. Why do you leave your company (say TCS) when you get a pay hike from other company. That times no body raise question of loyalty. Then why do you think TCS should always be loyal.
Third ---- Survival of the fittest
Why not this should be applicable? If company is hiring you then you are expected to perform at least to the satisfactory level. If you are not then you are not performing your duty. In such cases TCS is free to take any actions. Did they not pay you at the end of the month. If they have paid you on time then you are supposed to work to give them results. If you are not performing then have all the moral rights to fire you.
They are in business. If they will continue paying you even though you are not performing then it is wrong to those who are performing. If they will continue paying you even though you are a non-performer then its wrong to stakeholders as well.
Why I being a TCS shareholder always want that my company will be in profits so that I will get consistent and expected returns.
Is it just matter of humanity Or, we are trying to hide our inability to perform …
Lets be practical. In real world this happens.
First --
They are in business and they have all the rights to hire and fire. Humanity can not be the only policy. If they are keeping people then people must perform at least at satisfaction level and if they are not performing then they are going away from their moral duty. In such cases, TCS also have right to go away from the humanity.
Second ---
Survival of fittest is applicable in the comparable scenario. If we have 10 people and we need to fire 5 out of them due to any reason (may be recession) then we all would like to keep the top five people. It doesn't mean that the 5 fired people are not talented, but, they are less fit for the respective company. Just imagine yourself at their position (top management) ... what will you do when your strategy is going wrong due to recession i.e. external events, will you continue paying unnecessary or will ask them to leave If you continue, your balance sheet will go red. What will you answer to your stakeholders
Boss, its business, they are employer and we are employees. We all think in a profitable manner. Why do you leave your company (say TCS) when you get a pay hike from other company. That times no body raise question of loyalty. Then why do you think TCS should always be loyal.
Third ---- Survival of the fittest
Why not this should be applicable? If company is hiring you then you are expected to perform at least to the satisfactory level. If you are not then you are not performing your duty. In such cases TCS is free to take any actions. Did they not pay you at the end of the month. If they have paid you on time then you are supposed to work to give them results. If you are not performing then have all the moral rights to fire you.
They are in business. If they will continue paying you even though you are not performing then it is wrong to those who are performing. If they will continue paying you even though you are a non-performer then its wrong to stakeholders as well.
Why I being a TCS shareholder always want that my company will be in profits so that I will get consistent and expected returns.
Is it just matter of humanity Or, we are trying to hide our inability to perform …
Lets be practical. In real world this happens.
Posted by:Murder of Brand Assets
- 22 Jul, 2009
99:
i totally agree with u
fresher Replied to: Murder of Brand Assets
- 22 Jul, 2009
100:
HI Murder of Brand Assets,
Giving reasons is simple, When I was hired in TCS I recruited for a lesser package than the current, HR pointed out that you are in TCS so what else you want? Now the reply you have posted is quite similar to a HR's words in TCS. Now what should I think Iam out of TCS what else I want huh? Its not about the matter of money everyday after you complete your shift and go home you will feel happy that you have done a good job and safe under TCS, But when an employee thinks that its all fake and virtual then I am sure that if every employee thinks the same then TCS is Technically Closer to Sh*t
Giving reasons is simple, When I was hired in TCS I recruited for a lesser package than the current, HR pointed out that you are in TCS so what else you want? Now the reply you have posted is quite similar to a HR's words in TCS. Now what should I think Iam out of TCS what else I want huh? Its not about the matter of money everyday after you complete your shift and go home you will feel happy that you have done a good job and safe under TCS, But when an employee thinks that its all fake and virtual then I am sure that if every employee thinks the same then TCS is Technically Closer to Sh*t
YourFather Replied to: Murder of Brand Assets
- 22 Jul, 2009
101:
you will be the C.E.O for my company..
Vivek Replied to: Murder of Brand Assets
- 22 Jul, 2009
102:
"Why do you leave your company (say TCS) when you get a pay hike from other company. That times no body raise question of loyalty." - I am in the recruitment business and I totally agree to this.
Sugeesh Replied to: Murder of Brand Assets
- 22 Jul, 2009
103:
your argument is completely wrong. You are thinking only from shareholders point. If the company is making loss for any reason there is a way to explain the same and ask the employees in a decent way to move out of the office. did any company share profits with the employees for the amount of work they have delivered. Success comes with the team no individual can achieve the success. And all of a sudden when you had the employees on bench for 1 year and made them to enjoy the luxury life you never thought that you are making the employees a lazy people. And all of a sudden people who have been given best performer awards were also been removed after couple of years saying that they are non performers. This kind of label to the employees screws up their future. If you are not able to run the company as it is not making profit then tell the exact reason and tell them that the company is not in a position to survive anymore.
The top executives incentive schemes and other benefits that these companies are offering can be the salary of 10 people. Why dont you cut down the salary of those people who are highly paid for nothing and why dont you remove those heads where they are just monitoring the job done by others rather than doing it by themselves. You guys fall for the beat around the bush talk and feel that the one who can talk well can do a great job.
Your thoughts are sickening...
The top executives incentive schemes and other benefits that these companies are offering can be the salary of 10 people. Why dont you cut down the salary of those people who are highly paid for nothing and why dont you remove those heads where they are just monitoring the job done by others rather than doing it by themselves. You guys fall for the beat around the bush talk and feel that the one who can talk well can do a great job.
Your thoughts are sickening...
silverscreen Replied to: Murder of Brand Assets
- 22 Jul, 2009
105:
I totally agree with you but why TCS went for new recruitment this year? The only reason was to be on safer side if they get new projects & to take advantage of the situation, because now a days, freshers are available at very cheaper rate..
Sandy3009 Replied to: Murder of Brand Assets
- 22 Jul, 2009
106:
Recession is a pointer which shows which all companies are trustable. If the company want to fire you. They will do without any notice. When you leave company and if you are in a project them they will blame so many things to make your resignation a big blunder.
NEVER LOVE A COMPANY
NEVER LOVE A COMPANY
Posted by:Chandan
- 22 Jul, 2009
107:
New brooms sweeps well. Not good to have the previous employees out and new hirees in as a cost cutting game
Posted by:venkat
- 22 Jul, 2009
108:
All indian software companies are blood Suckers.TCS tops that. Suddenly people who worked well will become poor performers. People who wants to survive and grow should not have spines. The one who questions management is a poor performer. There is no human values. This is corporate slavery.
Posted by:Corporate Slave
- 22 Jul, 2009
109:
i agree wih you completly.....
samir Replied to: Corporate Slave
- 22 Jul, 2009
110:
This is almost most of the Indian companies, poor managment
Takashi Replied to: Corporate Slave
- 22 Jul, 2009
111:
This year also TCS has recruited so many fresh graduates from Campus and all are waiting for their joining. This is actually playing with their career...these people missed so many opportunities after getting selected in TCS. TCS is misusing its brand name. They should have more ethical HR policies...It is agreed that companies are there to make money & not for charity but TCS shouldn't have recruited if they don't have projects in hand.
Posted by:Sandy3009
- 21 Jul, 2009
112:
Convey the freshers and campus recruit's to come out strive and get job for themselves.
karthik raja Replied to: Sandy3009
- 22 Jul, 2009
113:
Best thing to do is join tcs, use the brand name to get a better job
Rebel Replied to: Sandy3009
- 25 Apr, 2012
114:
TATA is branded company
Attrition increase & decrease in every organization
HR & TCS policies are best as per corporate norms
So many employees are leaving the organization for different kind of reason
Force attrition is very less in TCS
News Paper & news channel want good Massala
Attrition increase & decrease in every organization
HR & TCS policies are best as per corporate norms
So many employees are leaving the organization for different kind of reason
Force attrition is very less in TCS
News Paper & news channel want good Massala
Posted by:Nadir Sheikh
- 21 Jul, 2009
115:
TCS is the worst company I have seen in the IT. The HR polices and work environment and the timings. Don't have minimum sense. Read as below:
1. TCS is named for corporate slavery,now on wards
in current project i almost worked for 12 hours daily
bid the projects for low cost and harrass people.
2. TCS offer letters - Face the uncertainty(experienced by ananonymous)- Think twice before you quit and join TCS.
If you are looking out for job change, please read this carefully.
I have more than 7 years experience in IT and was working for a CMM Level 5 Indian MNC in Bangalore. During 2008 Sept-Oct, I was thinking of a job change and I got a call from TCS (Tata Consultancy Service Bangalore). I cleared all rounds of the interview and TCS sent me the offer letter in Nov 2008. As everyone does and since it was recession time, I had repeated discussions with the TCS HR person and he specifically advised me to resign from the current job ASAP and give him a tentative joining date. I gave my joining date as 2nd week of Jan 2009. Then I gave my resignation in my company. I cleared my background verification and medical for TCS during this time. I came out of job during last week of Dec 2008. During my exit process, my manager told me in case if I rethink to join back, give him a call in a week or so..I humbly rejected it because I had committed to join TCS.
From here the story begins.
After coming out of the job, I contacted TCS HR and told him I would join on the 1st week of Jan itself. He told all the new joinings would happen only by the 3rd week of Jan. I did not find anything wrong. I waited till the third week of Jan and met the TCS HR at his office. But then, he had a whole new story. Because of the recession, it seemed he needed special approval for induction and asked me to wait for max 2 more weeks to get the approval for induction. I found something wrong but he promised to honour the offer. Anyway I contacted my old company. But by that time they had stopped lateral hiring. Now, it has been almost 6 months. And I am yet to
get any word from TCS.In the mean time, I have came to know that a lot of people have had this same experience from TCS.
All of us are experienced. Many are married and living with their family. All of us were pretty safe in our jobs. We now face an uncertain future because of a fake offer. Imagine the pain that comes to a happy, secure family when the earning member suddenly loses the job.
We resigned from our jobs- and some of us even relocated just by trusting the brand name of TCS.
So, next time when you get an offer letter from TCS, please think twice or atleast keep one more offer as a backup before you resign from your current job or EXPERIENCE THE UNCERTAINTY.
PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD SO THAT NO ONE ELSE SPOILS THEIR CAREER
UNNECESSARILY...
1. TCS is named for corporate slavery,now on wards
in current project i almost worked for 12 hours daily
bid the projects for low cost and harrass people.
2. TCS offer letters - Face the uncertainty(experienced by ananonymous)- Think twice before you quit and join TCS.
If you are looking out for job change, please read this carefully.
I have more than 7 years experience in IT and was working for a CMM Level 5 Indian MNC in Bangalore. During 2008 Sept-Oct, I was thinking of a job change and I got a call from TCS (Tata Consultancy Service Bangalore). I cleared all rounds of the interview and TCS sent me the offer letter in Nov 2008. As everyone does and since it was recession time, I had repeated discussions with the TCS HR person and he specifically advised me to resign from the current job ASAP and give him a tentative joining date. I gave my joining date as 2nd week of Jan 2009. Then I gave my resignation in my company. I cleared my background verification and medical for TCS during this time. I came out of job during last week of Dec 2008. During my exit process, my manager told me in case if I rethink to join back, give him a call in a week or so..I humbly rejected it because I had committed to join TCS.
From here the story begins.
After coming out of the job, I contacted TCS HR and told him I would join on the 1st week of Jan itself. He told all the new joinings would happen only by the 3rd week of Jan. I did not find anything wrong. I waited till the third week of Jan and met the TCS HR at his office. But then, he had a whole new story. Because of the recession, it seemed he needed special approval for induction and asked me to wait for max 2 more weeks to get the approval for induction. I found something wrong but he promised to honour the offer. Anyway I contacted my old company. But by that time they had stopped lateral hiring. Now, it has been almost 6 months. And I am yet to
get any word from TCS.In the mean time, I have came to know that a lot of people have had this same experience from TCS.
All of us are experienced. Many are married and living with their family. All of us were pretty safe in our jobs. We now face an uncertain future because of a fake offer. Imagine the pain that comes to a happy, secure family when the earning member suddenly loses the job.
We resigned from our jobs- and some of us even relocated just by trusting the brand name of TCS.
So, next time when you get an offer letter from TCS, please think twice or atleast keep one more offer as a backup before you resign from your current job or EXPERIENCE THE UNCERTAINTY.
PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD SO THAT NO ONE ELSE SPOILS THEIR CAREER
UNNECESSARILY...
Chand Replied to: Nadir Sheikh
- 22 Jul, 2009
116:
Hi friend,
Not only TCS, even I experienced same with IBM. Due to personal reason, I resigned the job & came to Benagaluru in June last year. After that through one consultancy, I got selected for IBM company in July month. The Project manager fixed my salary & told me to join with in a week. He told me to submit all required document like salary proof, salary hike etc. I submitted all xerox copies.
But, after that no information from their side. I contacted consultancy people for more than 2 months on this. Finally, I got mail from consultany stating that they have dropped my profile due to IBM not getting new projects.
This happened last year.
My question is ---- "why did they conduct interviews before they don't have projects in hand & cheat people by conducting interview & play with us".
RECESSION BECAME A REASON FOR ALL BAD SITUATIONS
Not only TCS, even I experienced same with IBM. Due to personal reason, I resigned the job & came to Benagaluru in June last year. After that through one consultancy, I got selected for IBM company in July month. The Project manager fixed my salary & told me to join with in a week. He told me to submit all required document like salary proof, salary hike etc. I submitted all xerox copies.
But, after that no information from their side. I contacted consultancy people for more than 2 months on this. Finally, I got mail from consultany stating that they have dropped my profile due to IBM not getting new projects.
This happened last year.
My question is ---- "why did they conduct interviews before they don't have projects in hand & cheat people by conducting interview & play with us".
RECESSION BECAME A REASON FOR ALL BAD SITUATIONS
MSK Replied to: Chand
- 27 Jul, 2009
117:
iT'S NOT ONLY u A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SPOILING BY LOOKING AT LUCRATIVE ADVERTISEMENTS AS WE DOWHILE PURCHASING IN ANY MALL. i FEEL SORRY FOR YOU IT HAPPENED WITH ME A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS WORKING AS A CSR WITH HCL. BUT NOW I HAVE LEFT THE INDUSTRY AND I'M WITH THE TEACHING INDUSTRY. I WORK AS A CONSULTANT IN BANGALORE. AND I'M VERY MUCH HAPPY. ONLY THE SALARY IS ALITTLE LOW BUT I FEEL MUCH PROUD TO BE IN THE TEACHING WORLD. IF YOUR FRIENDS WANT TO GET INTO TEACHING SIDE THEN THERE IS ABUNDANT SCOPE IN TEACHING BE IT MATHS COMMERCE, ACCOUNTANTS OR ANY SUBJECTS IN COLLEGE LEVEL WHETHER IN MCA OR MBA SO IF U CAN TIGHTLY HOLD YOUR BUDGET THEN THERE IS A PERFECT EDGE FOR YOU IN TEACHING FIELD. I, MY WIFE BOTH WORK N THE COLLEGE AND YOU SHOULD BE KNOWING THE EXPENSES IN BANGALORE. I STAY 4O KMS FROM BANGALORECITY AND WE BOTH COMPROMISE ON CERTAIN THINGS AND WE ARE OKAY. (NO EXTRA SPENDING LIKE REGULAR VISITS TO MG ROAD NOR FORUM WE ARE GLUED TO THE I BOX. AND WE ARE WELL OFF. YOU CAN CONTACT MY BANGALORE NO WHICH IS 9902079146
JOTHIVASU Replied to: Chand
- 22 Jul, 2009
118:
Hi, U have taken a very good decision. even i will follow the same to be away from the uncertain IT and ITES sector. Teaching is one of the best profession in the world.
seetharam Replied to: JOTHIVASU
- 30 Aug, 2009
119:
Hi Brother,
U have taken a very good decision staying away from the software industry. Am very happy for u. Now u must be sleeping in peace everyday without any stress or fear of job loss. I too am thinking of something like that. I will follow ur example. Thank u.
U have taken a very good decision staying away from the software industry. Am very happy for u. Now u must be sleeping in peace everyday without any stress or fear of job loss. I too am thinking of something like that. I will follow ur example. Thank u.
Ankith Replied to: JOTHIVASU
- 22 Jul, 2009
120:
What is that different reason? Why on their own to leave the job?
Kumar Replied to: Nadir Sheikh
- 22 Jul, 2009
121:
Which company hasnt fired ? Mastek ? Patni ? Infosys ?
How easy is it to state this "TCS is the worst company I have seen in the IT."..is it ? Just because you dint get joining call from the company ? Go to other compnay n experience the same thing and again get back...TCS will take u as soon as they have a place for u...
How easy is it to state this "TCS is the worst company I have seen in the IT."..is it ? Just because you dint get joining call from the company ? Go to other compnay n experience the same thing and again get back...TCS will take u as soon as they have a place for u...
xyz Replied to: Chand
- 22 Jul, 2009
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Hi xyz, My humble request would be please stop thinking that you are smart by giving such reply. If you do have a dependent family and you being fired for no good reason.., but just pointing out the recession you will understand the pain also if you go with a releiving letter from TCS to the above mentioned companies "Mastex", "Patni", "Infosys", you will be treated a criminal just out of jail. These words are not for fun but will get its value only when you experience it
YourFather Replied to: xyz
- 22 Jul, 2009
123:
you Stupid fellow,I think ur from TCS, don't you understand the problem here,u spine-less son of a Bit*h
BabaJani Replied to: xyz
- 22 Jul, 2009
124:
Hey try to avoid profanity, it's not fair.
karthik raja Replied to: BabaJani
- 22 Jul, 2009
125:
What? You will decide what is fair and what's not.
Who has given you this proxy power, Don't make me angry or .*
I don't want to see you here again,ok.
Who has given you this proxy power, Don't make me angry or .*
I don't want to see you here again,ok.
BabaJani Replied to: karthik raja
- 24 Jul, 2009
126:
It's going public and its's not fair to throw your emotions in this manner :(
karthik raja Replied to: BabaJani
- 31 Jul, 2009
127:
Why would people leave in last 10 months on the account of risk of recession?
Yogendra Replied to: Kumar
- 22 Jul, 2009
128:
To answer their 'BRAINS', to earn better livelihood without the fear of being kicked off.
karthik raja Replied to: Yogendra
- 22 Jul, 2009
129:
Show urattitude to someone else... Some projects in tcs suck big time
Rebel Replied to: BabaJani
- 25 Apr, 2012
130:
TCS projects in India come by bribing Officers of client and making them pay crores for the projects smaller companies takeup for lakhs
Posted by:nisha
- 21 Jul, 2009
133:
No one here will write anything against Nisha..I don't like this
BabaJani Replied to: priya
- 24 Jul, 2009
134:
Hello !
I served on client site India and abroad, i know it is true that TCS Bribes for projects.People at client site knows all that . No need to explain here! Every company have to do that to get a government project !
If it is a university then VC ko Mithayee ke Dibbe bheje jaatte hain jismein cash hota hai ! hehehe I have given it to one !
I served on client site India and abroad, i know it is true that TCS Bribes for projects.People at client site knows all that . No need to explain here! Every company have to do that to get a government project !
If it is a university then VC ko Mithayee ke Dibbe bheje jaatte hain jismein cash hota hai ! hehehe I have given it to one !
Sany Replied to: priya
- 22 Jul, 2009
136:
Good question :-) lets wait and watch for the answer.
karthik raja Replied to: priya
- 22 Jul, 2009
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100% wrong that they quit on their own. if it so examine the reason you would find its not by own decision. because all of them might not be have reason to quit at same time. Also TATA is branded company and have more quality. it must by the higher official's who forced others to save their income.
Posted by:Siva
- 21 Jul, 2009
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I dont't know but some 5-6 days back i got call from TCS for skills that i have.May that was the technology i am working is little presence in Indian market but they called me i said no to TCS !
Guys you must think twice before joining such companies which misuse their brand name and harrasing Talented people.
You gets big check initially but you starts feeling the truth after 2 years that you are being harrased in Satyam ,TCS or Infosys thats fact!
Biggest problem with Indian IT companies is that they are project base not even single company here focus on Product Software.
Projects based companies always remains dependenty on Clients.
If some one from above companies read this , can reply to me how many Product Softwares You have which works across the world ?
Have you ever considered any 'People's Software" that can make a market of your own like "Nano", Nope !
Actually these companies shows that they are talented but relity is that they are not able to create a market for themselves. They have to rush for Projects.
Why India have so purchase defense softwares from Abroad if you are so Talented companies?
Guys you must think twice before joining such companies which misuse their brand name and harrasing Talented people.
You gets big check initially but you starts feeling the truth after 2 years that you are being harrased in Satyam ,TCS or Infosys thats fact!
Biggest problem with Indian IT companies is that they are project base not even single company here focus on Product Software.
Projects based companies always remains dependenty on Clients.
If some one from above companies read this , can reply to me how many Product Softwares You have which works across the world ?
Have you ever considered any 'People's Software" that can make a market of your own like "Nano", Nope !
Actually these companies shows that they are talented but relity is that they are not able to create a market for themselves. They have to rush for Projects.
Why India have so purchase defense softwares from Abroad if you are so Talented companies?
Posted by:Sandy
- 21 Jul, 2009
140:
Great said Sandy............hats off to u...........
sudarshan Replied to: Sandy
- 22 Jul, 2009
141:
Bring out the harassment into BIG Screen... Big Picture...
When the companies that are product based is not in a position to setup their own Help Desk's, Support Centers etc. why did the turn up to sign a contract with so called 'CHEAP LABOUR' countries?
Product Software - Hope Indian companies are listening to this.
When the companies that are product based is not in a position to setup their own Help Desk's, Support Centers etc. why did the turn up to sign a contract with so called 'CHEAP LABOUR' countries?
Product Software - Hope Indian companies are listening to this.
karthik raja Replied to: Sandy
- 22 Jul, 2009
142:
Hey folks.. If you were owning a company of around a one and a half lakh, then you would have understood the complexity involved.. Recession is a time where there comes "the survival of fittest" policy.. The fittest guy remains and the rest wil be thrown.. There is no meaning in weighing everyone in same scale.. The filtering should happen based on performance and as i know from my frens in tcs, the same is being done.. how can u pay someone who won't deserve.. Moreover, TCS is very reasonable in such policies. Many ppl are being paid from past 1 yr without allocation to any project.. Again i would say.. never depend on luck.. because luck is something in which someone will get something for which he/she is unfit.. Survival of the FITTEST..
Posted by:Vivek
- 21 Jul, 2009
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U said that many ppl being paid from past 1 yrs without allocation to ant projects.......if there is no projects then what should they do? is it there responsibility to find project and get allocated? if there is no projects so why tcs hire them?
arghya Replied to: Vivek
- 22 Jul, 2009
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When U the guys are hiring some Students having zero knowledge and rejecting the real talents at that time you dnt think even about the real talented one,but incase of Firing the guy does not deserve it...?
Ratikanta Replied to: Vivek
- 22 Jul, 2009
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I m completly agree with you, IT companies test pattern is not at all acceptable those who have talent. reality is that, you r Maths Graduate, but cannot write a program for mere sinx and cosx expansion, even u don\'t know it\'s expansion, but you have very high percentage in UG (especially in TAMILNADU),Then also it is not at problem for those guys, they just brag n got offer letter, n those who is having less percentage(North India) but have the sound grip on subject, does not get chance to show, only OOPS padho, aur bako......... Ho gaya placement........ Jai Ho....... I had very bitter experience......
BHISM Replied to: Ratikanta
- 22 Jul, 2009
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you are absolutely wrong. If people does not deserve to be paid then why were they hired in the first place.
When TCS hires people they will obviously hire people who are talented. There is no point in saying that the people fired were belowor avg performers. Its a ploy by TCS to say so or to say that 5000 people quit by themselves.
When TCS hires people they will obviously hire people who are talented. There is no point in saying that the people fired were belowor avg performers. Its a ploy by TCS to say so or to say that 5000 people quit by themselves.
tarun Replied to: Vivek
- 21 Jul, 2009
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hi tarun.. Company will hire resources well ahead of getting projects.. the client would give you a project if u show them you have ppl ready to work.. TCS and all IT biggies expected projects which didnt come on time and the bench strength in TCS as on date is 35000+ and not all guys r fired.. and FYI.. there comes thousands of resources from various parts of country with a fake experience which can be found only after testing theor skills in many cases.. when there comes question of freshers, you cant afford to take someone when u dont have work with you.. humanity should be a part of policy.. humanity should not be the only policy.. Business is all about profit and loss.. If the guys r really talented then they should put themselves somewhere else.. most of the ppl have become lazy becos they say they are placed in TCS.. This sounds foolish.. Better if one reads the offer letter carefully..
Vivek Replied to: tarun
- 22 Jul, 2009
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Bullshit! They scared and harassed people to quit so that they can hires freshers at half the package... And the top people get 4 crore hike in recession! Wtf!
Rebel Replied to: Vivek
- 25 Apr, 2012
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I think wrong statement had given by mistake, don't worry friends TCS might announce what is fact by tomorrow:)
Posted by:Ishwar
- 21 Jul, 2009
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Do you know their debt value........
karthik raja Replied to: Ishwar
- 22 Jul, 2009
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Yes I'm agree with tarun, one of my friend was worked for TCS. One day he called in Andheri(Mumbai) office of TCS and they give him resignation latter and tole either sign on it or we will fire you. So he has not another option
Posted by:Ashish solanki
- 21 Jul, 2009
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Its a trick played by TCS. There is no way 5000 employees will quit on their own. TCS fires them and at the end of the day will ask the employees to submit a resignation letter so that TCS can then claim that employees quit on their own.
This procedure is followed by most of the companies who would like to fire huge number of employees..
This procedure is followed by most of the companies who would like to fire huge number of employees..
Posted by:tarun
- 21 Jul, 2009
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Ya you are right...At this rescission time who will like to quit the job. As of now all are just sticking to their current job and working more than 10hrs/day. No one is ever thinking of change. Only the people who are in bench are afraid that they might be given pink slip and are seriously looking out for change but chances of getting job is less than 10% and companies are not entertaining people who have high CTC, Those whose package is less(for 4-5yrs exp) are at least getting jobs here n there.
Ravi Replied to: tarun
- 21 Jul, 2009
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Its a very clear mark that the employees have been compelled to leave the company by TCS. Because, if employees quit by their own then, 5000 employees cann't leave altogather in the time of recession. So, it conflicts with the above statement.
I dont think and can't digest that 5000 employees quit by their own....
I dont think and can't digest that 5000 employees quit by their own....
Ayaz Ahmed Replied to: tarun
- 21 Jul, 2009
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I would like to know whether the employees quit on their own or were made to quit by TCS.
Posted by:Ash
- 21 Jul, 2009
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Are you all crazy. leaving TCS in this crisis time. Any ways but its harmful for the Employees at the end of the day. So think before you steps of for something really serious which will effect your career. Get your head placed under some shed and then quit. Without another job if you are planning to quit you will be in hell. That's worse that TCS for sure.
Siladitya Replied to: Ash
- 22 Jul, 2009
158:
hey you are speaking for what your name stands??
karthik raja Replied to: Khajoor
- 22 Jul, 2009
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There is no need to join TCS if situation is like this just we have to keep our eyes and ears open.
Shankar Replied to: Khajoor
- 21 Jul, 2009
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I think TCS not telling truth to public , i think freshers who are dreaming about TCS need to learn all this because in future they can be one among this employees
Posted by:karthik
- 21 Jul, 2009
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Most of the freshers had been cheated by such companies in the name of Campus selections. STill some freshers are waiting for the joining dates.
Kusuma Replied to: karthik
- 21 Jul, 2009
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Then how about an idea to scarp campus recruit.
karthik raja Replied to: Kusuma
- 22 Jul, 2009
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TCS has a good reputation for getting on board all the fresheres they have recruited through campus selecetion. Same was the case for the last recession. The calls were delayed by TCS by as much as a year and half but the appointments were honored.
I work for TCS and i have seen the certainty in its work cuture and policies. Most of the pwople i know, have left to pursue higher education.
You must also understand that almost 60% freshers joining the IT cos are doing so only so that they can get paid while they prepare for their higher studies.
About non-performers, i dnt think a person who is fired for non-performance would ever admit to the outside world the actual reason for tht :)
I work for TCS and i have seen the certainty in its work cuture and policies. Most of the pwople i know, have left to pursue higher education.
You must also understand that almost 60% freshers joining the IT cos are doing so only so that they can get paid while they prepare for their higher studies.
About non-performers, i dnt think a person who is fired for non-performance would ever admit to the outside world the actual reason for tht :)
nebulous Replied to: Kusuma
- 22 Jul, 2009
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This is 100% true b'coz no projects. West and rest of the world is showing deteriorating sign, where is the room for projects?
Lets pull up our socks and see what can we do with resources available in our country and nearby ones.
Lets pull up our socks and see what can we do with resources available in our country and nearby ones.
karthik raja Replied to: Kusuma
- 22 Jul, 2009
165:
better try to open tea shop..Oops! recession period.. not sure about the business.. :(
Dk shan Replied to: karthik raja
- 22 Jul, 2009
166:
first u start after u r success !
oneandhra Replied to: Dk shan
- 22 Jul, 2009
167:
Blast from the past.... AGRICULTURE
karthik raja Replied to: Dk shan
- 22 Jul, 2009
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It cannot be surely said if all the employees actually quit or some of them were laid off, as it is become a trend these days.
Posted by:shankar
- 21 Jul, 2009
169:
among those if anybody here could brief the saga.
karthik raja Replied to: shankar
- 21 Jul, 2009
170:
Guys,its true that most of these 5000 employees would have been forced to leave by TCS authorities. But, if you go in detail you will find that majority of them would be either average or below average performers and a figure of such performers out of 1.4 lacs is quite realistic. Why should an organization bear this cost in such tough times.However, there would be few who would not have got enough opportunity to prove themselves, which is sad but thats law of jungle.Whenever an organization is on a growth path/expantion it doesn't bother about such costs because business keeps coming in but during such tough times this kind of cost cut is important. No organization expels its good empolyees till the time it is bankrupt.
Rishi Replied to: karthik raja
- 21 Jul, 2009
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If they are bad performers they should be terminated and not made to resign. THis is being done to evade the legalities of terminating a person. This is not only illegal but also unethical. But who cares.At the end of the day it is the employees who are exploited...
Sri Replied to: Rishi
- 22 Jul, 2009
172:
Why the company should go bankrupt if it have all those talented guys.. Have a look at the Q1 financial results.. you would wonder the effect of recession (recession precaution also)
dk shan Replied to: Rishi
- 22 Jul, 2009
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its a publiclcy policiey of maximumum Indian multinational comany anybody can be called its Deshi company.i am accepeting company can be resposiable but we are also responsiable. we are only following the crowd.i am appealing those people who are following the crowd please jenrate new ideas and please dont follow the only brand name.because we have lot of responsibilties.lot fo government orgnaisations are providing better perks and secure with respective jobs.....dhakk to lgan hai aaj nhi to kal
Anirudh Singh Replied to: Rishi
- 22 Jul, 2009
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I totally agree with Rishi. Btw I never worked for TCS but I'm sure it is just not TCS that forced their employees to leave. There are two ways in which an employee is asked to leave any reputed IT services company.
1) Company no longer expects project in the area of employee's expertise. If this is the case the company will pay 2 month - 3 month salary before they ask you to leave
2)Firing low performers. Low performers are always intimated that they need to do well and when they see that the performance is consistently low and unfortunately if this person is on bench, then the companies have no choice but to ask the employee leave
It is rightly pointe that when the times are good, performance never matters much because the company will have fianncial resources to commit to even the lowest performer. But when the times are hard and when you need to cut costs it becomes impertaive for the organization to take these extereme measures. We just need to learn or digest these hard facts
1) Company no longer expects project in the area of employee's expertise. If this is the case the company will pay 2 month - 3 month salary before they ask you to leave
2)Firing low performers. Low performers are always intimated that they need to do well and when they see that the performance is consistently low and unfortunately if this person is on bench, then the companies have no choice but to ask the employee leave
It is rightly pointe that when the times are good, performance never matters much because the company will have fianncial resources to commit to even the lowest performer. But when the times are hard and when you need to cut costs it becomes impertaive for the organization to take these extereme measures. We just need to learn or digest these hard facts
Sandeep Replied to: Rishi
- 21 Jul, 2009
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it is just a excuse to fire ppl. Why were ppl recruited if they were underperformers. Looks like HR of TCS is inefficient and they should be fired first coz they took wrong ppl that means.
anyways TCS is just taking advantage of situation thats all.
5000 ppl will never quit and that we and TCS all know abt it
what a lame thing.
it is just a excuse to fire ppl. Why were ppl recruited if they were underperformers. Looks like HR of TCS is inefficient and they should be fired first coz they took wrong ppl that means.
anyways TCS is just taking advantage of situation thats all.
5000 ppl will never quit and that we and TCS all know abt it
what a lame thing.
ashwini pawar Replied to: Sandeep
- 21 Jul, 2009
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Hi Rishi, R u from TCS HR? Its the sole inefficiency of the HR policy. The whole responsibility goes to them. They wont have any right to play this dirty game. While they are trying to shed jobs, they tell only about performance lack, which is totally vegue. These policy makers should be fired first.
new_thought Replied to: Rishi
- 21 Jul, 2009
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Hi New Thought, I am not from TCS HR. Its not in the hands of HR team at a zonal level. HR people do whatever is told to them by corporate office which implies that HR policies are governed by business i.e. if business people or Strategy guys say that they will be able to make money then HR will not do al this and if they predict losses then you know what happens.
Rishi Sharma Replied to: new_thought
- 22 Jul, 2009
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I think we sud not run after a brand name find the what you have withing yrself and then come to play and for these HR ppl they r the biggest duffer in the a company they r real monkey who use to dance for fun, fake confidence and poor productivity infact they are like pick pocketters of the local bus who use to earn their bred n butter from other ppl work hehe plz nvm but it is the truth
nikhil Replied to: new_thought
- 22 Jul, 2009
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hi .....
policies are right . TCS the brand name hired the people because they have that much of work at that time and there provision was that many projects will come from the client sides. but due to recession projects are not coming and tcs or project based companies are facing the problems . but they are very responsible at their work they are paying to the employees even though they are not allocated to any projects . so you have to think about this economic crisis and then blame to the companies like TCS.
policies are right . TCS the brand name hired the people because they have that much of work at that time and there provision was that many projects will come from the client sides. but due to recession projects are not coming and tcs or project based companies are facing the problems . but they are very responsible at their work they are paying to the employees even though they are not allocated to any projects . so you have to think about this economic crisis and then blame to the companies like TCS.
rohit tiwari Replied to: new_thought
- 21 Jul, 2009
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Hey! i dnt knw about TCS but IBM is more worst ....they call you for interview and keep u in doll drums ...and finally give you funny excuses like manager is not there ...today not possible ..I dont know when they dont haev backbones to take good people when they call and do recruitment...
Spotless Mind Replied to: rohit tiwari
- 22 Jul, 2009
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I think TCS should rework with it's group punch line or tag line "Experience Certainity" How come?
we don't know how much truth this information is having but people will feel more insecure by this.................
we don't know how much truth this information is having but people will feel more insecure by this.................
Sushanta Dash Replied to: Spotless Mind
- 22 Jul, 2009
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Come on, now people are being kicked off and now recruitment process into picture. Everybody has,is and will go through manager's.. wait for a minute which is equal to an hour or so... all these. B'coz position has,is and will demand forever.
karthik raja Replied to: Spotless Mind
- 22 Jul, 2009
184:
Hey guys.......just forget IT & try to look for other streams of engg which have bright future.....I am a non IT guy who had a big dream to come into IT seeing the sal package......& the facility given by the firms......But its only an illusion after seeing this news......our firm is really good & cares for employees......no one has fired till now & shows how great our firm is.....I thank god for not making me to enter stupid IT field
Sudarsan Replied to: karthik raja
- 22 Jul, 2009
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Software Industry has reached a super saturated state. Such forced terminations were expected. I think we should all develop our non IT skill sets i.e go for a MBA / change profession. As we know that back up plans helps during crisis
Arijit Replied to: karthik raja
- 22 Jul, 2009
186:
Tcs is a good company compared to other IT companies. But some projects are good for nothing, example: EQUIFAX in Mumbai. Managers have impossible expectations and politics is high. Management doesn't at all think of welfare of resources. And many here are right, HR are good for nothing. Control is somewhere else. Even TL's think that they can do and say whatever they want even if they are good for nothing!
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