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U.S. won't succeed if India has more scientists
Bangalore: President Barack Obama has said that the U.S. is facing stiff competition from India and cannot succeed if the country continues to produce more scientists and engineers than America, reports Business Ghana.
"I said this during the State of the Union (address), I repeated it today in Henderson in my town hall: Other countries are not playing for second. They're playing for first," he told the Las Vegas-Area Chambers of Commerce and the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority on Friday. "That's just one example of the competition that we're facing on everything. If India or South Korea are producing more scientists and engineers than we are, we will not succeed."
This is the second time in two days that Obama has told people to gear up as countries like India, China and Germany are marching ahead in various fields, including clean energy technologies.
On Thursday, the President had said that the U.S., being the world leader, cannot afford to lag behind in clean energy technologies amid the fast growth of India, China and Germany in the field, and sought efforts to prevent any country from "out-competing" America in future.
"We know that whoever leads the clean energy revolution is going to lead the 21st century economy. And we can't wait. Because China is not waiting. India is not waiting. Germany is not waiting. We can't afford to wait," he said at a grassroots fundraiser for Senator Michael Bennet in Denver, Colorado.
"I said this during the State of the Union (address), I repeated it today in Henderson in my town hall: Other countries are not playing for second. They're playing for first," he told the Las Vegas-Area Chambers of Commerce and the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority on Friday. "That's just one example of the competition that we're facing on everything. If India or South Korea are producing more scientists and engineers than we are, we will not succeed."
This is the second time in two days that Obama has told people to gear up as countries like India, China and Germany are marching ahead in various fields, including clean energy technologies.
On Thursday, the President had said that the U.S., being the world leader, cannot afford to lag behind in clean energy technologies amid the fast growth of India, China and Germany in the field, and sought efforts to prevent any country from "out-competing" America in future.
"We know that whoever leads the clean energy revolution is going to lead the 21st century economy. And we can't wait. Because China is not waiting. India is not waiting. Germany is not waiting. We can't afford to wait," he said at a grassroots fundraiser for Senator Michael Bennet in Denver, Colorado.
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Reader's comments (53)
1: Poor Obama, He does't know the foolish
mentality of Indians.
So far, every one en-cashing the weakness of Indians for the progress of their own country. This is open that 90% of Indians are selfish and will work only for themselves and their poisoning Politicians. The WISDOM of Indians can be utilized only in out of India. There is no team spirit in Indians. They are smart in dividing the country into maximum pieces to rule. If at all Indians open their eyes start following the discipline in the way US following, what not possible for Indians?
So far, every one en-cashing the weakness of Indians for the progress of their own country. This is open that 90% of Indians are selfish and will work only for themselves and their poisoning Politicians. The WISDOM of Indians can be utilized only in out of India. There is no team spirit in Indians. They are smart in dividing the country into maximum pieces to rule. If at all Indians open their eyes start following the discipline in the way US following, what not possible for Indians?
Posted by: Charles J Chakravarthy - 07 Mar, 2010
2: Obama is being extremely foolish. Engineering
and other studies do not really make a nation
great. Greatness comes from something else.
Some nuts in the US policy wing is taking him
on a wild goose chase.
Posted by: Ved from Victoria Institutions - 06 Mar, 2010
3: Let there be a fair competition among all. At
one time India was focussed on controlling
its population growth only. Now it needs to
focus on education. History shows that as
education increases, the population growth
slows down. It is like two birds being killed
with one stone.
Posted by: Dr Pradeep K Chadha - 04 Mar, 2010
4:i don't agree wid u.........
mohit verma replied to: Dr Pradeep K Chadha
post - 11 Mar, 2010
post - 11 Mar, 2010
5:yes its true
balkrishnata replied to: Dr Pradeep K Chadha
post - 05 Mar, 2010
post - 05 Mar, 2010
6: Obama's call to Americans is
understandable.Let ther be fair competition
in the race for clean energy or for that
matter clean everything including our
morality and ethics.
Posted by: Piyush C.Sharma - 03 Mar, 2010
7: 2. However, the logic he is stating is not
right. Producing MORE engineers cannot make a
country better. We do have more engineers but
most of them cannot work on anything. They
are just engineers by degree. We do not have
many products to be proud of.
Posted by: Kaushik - 03 Mar, 2010
8:the 1st step 2 be made is to regognise the
innovations and inventions of the indian
people . If an an american firm can encourage
the inventiona and inovations of an indian ,
then why cant the indian government do it ?
the bangalore patence approval office still
have hundred's of posts to be filled and
lakhs of applications to be approved for
patients .
caldwell replied to: Kaushik
post - 05 Mar, 2010
post - 05 Mar, 2010
9:i agree with ur point kaushik,but i want to
tell you that if the no.of engineers and no.
of managers will be increased then definitely
they will add value to the country,if 40%of
them are just getting the degree but
remaining 60% great engineers and great
managers can really help the country
growing.
i think ,in a country the ministers and pm should always support and boost up the people but really the people can be innovative rather than pms themselves.actual thing is the country should develop a good place for these people to work and give new ideas to our own nation. govt should try to limit brain drain kind of things.
i think ,in a country the ministers and pm should always support and boost up the people but really the people can be innovative rather than pms themselves.actual thing is the country should develop a good place for these people to work and give new ideas to our own nation. govt should try to limit brain drain kind of things.
sagarika satapathy replied to: Kaushik
post - 03 Mar, 2010
post - 03 Mar, 2010
10: 1. As a leader of his nation, Obama is doing
the right thing - telling his people to come
out of their comfort zones.
Posted by: Kaushik - 03 Mar, 2010
11:I doubt if our PMs have ever said anything to
the country like - start working hard, start
working smart. In fact, in 60 years, how many
times have our PMs addressed the nation?
Kaushik replied to: Kaushik
post - 03 Mar, 2010
post - 03 Mar, 2010
12: What kind of illegal words are contained in
my comment, siliconindia? Please let me
know.
And how come the picture code I am putting in is wrong? Get your CAPTCHA correct. Your site is very user unfriendly.
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Posted by: Kaushik - 03 Mar, 2010
13: hello my dear friends, obama what he said is
not true.Everyone knows very well USA is
number one country in the world,Actually
present situation is indian lagging all the
field compare to us. We need to find out one
thing, what he said true means, why indian
student not yet get jobs. why he saying like
that means, he has encouraging USA people
compare to india and china and Germany.
Posted by: Sathish - 03 Mar, 2010
14: I dont think India is in competition with
U.S. , we are still way behind those U.S.
guys, No matter how many engineers and
doctors we produce more scientists in India,
The engineers and scientists go to US for a
job. What is the use of having more brilliant
minds in India. U.S. gives them more money so
they go to US. And also about the political
condition of the two countries are very
different, here in India the ruling party and
oppostion fight against each other, while in
U.S. they work together for the betterment.
The time has come for us to change the
society, and work for the betterment of the
society, forget the, change ourselves so that
we dont fight internally between hindu
muslims, upper caste and lower caste. Forget
all these shit and make our India a better
place to live in. We have the power to beat
US, but the problem is that we are very lazy
and we dont want to beat them, change urself
and in no time we will be ahead of US
Posted by: D.J. - 03 Mar, 2010
15:Hi,
What u described in the article comments regarding India ahead of US..... is true to 100 percent. Thanks for those patriotic comments.
What u described in the article comments regarding India ahead of US..... is true to 100 percent. Thanks for those patriotic comments.
G Srinivas replied to: D.J.
post - 03 Mar, 2010
post - 03 Mar, 2010
16:I 100% agree with your second part of
article. You have said well there are two
very important things one is corruption and
other is division on the basis of religion
and cast. We are staying together for
centuries, can we not remove their
differences, those appeared for the 60 years
only. If Hindus and Muslim are together, no
terrorist can attack and the parties like
Shive Sena and Bajrang can never devide the
society. Pleae think on those issues.
Indian Pathan replied to: D.J.
post - 03 Mar, 2010
post - 03 Mar, 2010
17: Hi guys
some of you below wrote too political comments all Obama is saying as a president to be wary and work hard ,as a president of USA it is his responsibility to look after the country that he governs so in that way he has made comments.
Also please note that USA doing well is better for Indian subcontinent and vice versa .every way the flow will be two way.
1.Jack welsh ,Jeffrey R Immeldt ,Tata and Narayana murthy can sit across a table and exchange ideas.
2.Our graduates(iits/others) can pursue higher education at a US university and interact with professors in USA as they do in India ,the level of comfort and acceptance very high.
could we even think of europe(language and other issues)
3.Both are democracies where free ideas,transparency and the aspirations are the same.
4.Americans are very hard working ,straightforward and trustworthy ,this is something we not only cherish and but share with them.
5.When I said Americans can work I meant to say in roles such as Business Development,internship (as a matter of fact Mahendra & Mahendra ,Infosys encourage graduates from Brown ,Stanford,etc to pursue the internship (Mahendra at Mumbai and Mysore for infosys).
6.Bill gates not only readily set up Microsft at Hyderabad but given a lot of money for Aids project in India.
This was something built on the interaction between the staff (from subcontinent) at Micrsoft and himself.
Infact he has given even more significantly for malaraia drug find.What I can say making money is onething but parting it for believing in a cause is different.similaraly Warren Buffet.
7.President Bush even after being out of office still took time to attend a leadership summit at New delhi.likewise Bill Clinton not only gets involved with social projects in india but never misses a chance to attend any indians gathering(Pan IIT).
8.By working together with USA not only it is good for subcontinent but for the world in general.
9.USA is innovation based(education ,R& D) unlike resource rich countries that essentially means we share more things in common with USA than anyother country.
10.A lot of people whom I came know not only live in america
(doctors,engineers,) the experience is very positive and integration very smooth.
Defintely we are friends with USA this is something that was built over a period of time genuinely based on people to people interactions and mutual trust.
yes strategies change as per the geo politics ,everyone will look after them selves(n the whole world) why single out USA .
11.while we have warm relations with UK,Germany,Australia and NewZealand
it is USA that not only recognized our contributions and acknowledged which has helped Indian IT this has then resulted in rest of the world acknowledgeing later.
remember that India was /is portrayed in a different light by media be it europe ,asia pacific .
NASA has allowed numerous engineers from subcontinent to work shine and contribute and it even collabarated with ISRO yes Chandrayan was the vehicle but instruments are from USA too ,yes I see as a collobaration and co-operation between scientists at ISRO and NASA not in any other way.
Yes data might have been analysed first by ISRO but confirmation is from NASA ,I see this as a fine example of international co-operation not in any other way.
12.In the post modern world we share common ideas,ideals,and goals.Being the two world largest economies we defintely need to co-operate and work as a team it is in the best intersts of world.
13.iam sure most Indian Company heads be it Sri Anand Mahindra ,sri Narayana Murty's children ,rahul gandhi ,Chidambaram (defense minister),Amabani's etc are all educated in US universities and so do a lot more.
14.USA has always allowed and accepted be it harekrsihna movement(bhakti vedanta swami prabhu ,Swami Vivekananda ,
dr Apj Abdul kalam to address ,speak and interact with audience very freely .
in this time of critical time we need to support the people of America as they are going through recovery from recession.remeber at difficult times how NRI's mobilized support and funds for India at its difficult times.
So please be supportive of American people and its economy while it recovers
rama mohana rao anne
sydney australia
some of you below wrote too political comments all Obama is saying as a president to be wary and work hard ,as a president of USA it is his responsibility to look after the country that he governs so in that way he has made comments.
Also please note that USA doing well is better for Indian subcontinent and vice versa .every way the flow will be two way.
1.Jack welsh ,Jeffrey R Immeldt ,Tata and Narayana murthy can sit across a table and exchange ideas.
2.Our graduates(iits/others) can pursue higher education at a US university and interact with professors in USA as they do in India ,the level of comfort and acceptance very high.
could we even think of europe(language and other issues)
3.Both are democracies where free ideas,transparency and the aspirations are the same.
4.Americans are very hard working ,straightforward and trustworthy ,this is something we not only cherish and but share with them.
5.When I said Americans can work I meant to say in roles such as Business Development,internship (as a matter of fact Mahendra & Mahendra ,Infosys encourage graduates from Brown ,Stanford,etc to pursue the internship (Mahendra at Mumbai and Mysore for infosys).
6.Bill gates not only readily set up Microsft at Hyderabad but given a lot of money for Aids project in India.
This was something built on the interaction between the staff (from subcontinent) at Micrsoft and himself.
Infact he has given even more significantly for malaraia drug find.What I can say making money is onething but parting it for believing in a cause is different.similaraly Warren Buffet.
7.President Bush even after being out of office still took time to attend a leadership summit at New delhi.likewise Bill Clinton not only gets involved with social projects in india but never misses a chance to attend any indians gathering(Pan IIT).
8.By working together with USA not only it is good for subcontinent but for the world in general.
9.USA is innovation based(education ,R& D) unlike resource rich countries that essentially means we share more things in common with USA than anyother country.
10.A lot of people whom I came know not only live in america
(doctors,engineers,) the experience is very positive and integration very smooth.
Defintely we are friends with USA this is something that was built over a period of time genuinely based on people to people interactions and mutual trust.
yes strategies change as per the geo politics ,everyone will look after them selves(n the whole world) why single out USA .
11.while we have warm relations with UK,Germany,Australia and NewZealand
it is USA that not only recognized our contributions and acknowledged which has helped Indian IT this has then resulted in rest of the world acknowledgeing later.
remember that India was /is portrayed in a different light by media be it europe ,asia pacific .
NASA has allowed numerous engineers from subcontinent to work shine and contribute and it even collabarated with ISRO yes Chandrayan was the vehicle but instruments are from USA too ,yes I see as a collobaration and co-operation between scientists at ISRO and NASA not in any other way.
Yes data might have been analysed first by ISRO but confirmation is from NASA ,I see this as a fine example of international co-operation not in any other way.
12.In the post modern world we share common ideas,ideals,and goals.Being the two world largest economies we defintely need to co-operate and work as a team it is in the best intersts of world.
13.iam sure most Indian Company heads be it Sri Anand Mahindra ,sri Narayana Murty's children ,rahul gandhi ,Chidambaram (defense minister),Amabani's etc are all educated in US universities and so do a lot more.
14.USA has always allowed and accepted be it harekrsihna movement(bhakti vedanta swami prabhu ,Swami Vivekananda ,
dr Apj Abdul kalam to address ,speak and interact with audience very freely .
in this time of critical time we need to support the people of America as they are going through recovery from recession.remeber at difficult times how NRI's mobilized support and funds for India at its difficult times.
So please be supportive of American people and its economy while it recovers
rama mohana rao anne
sydney australia
Posted by: rama mohana rao anne - 03 Mar, 2010
18:Yes I do agree with Rama Mohana. US is a land
of opportunities and it gives a opportunity
for any individual..It has given many other
countries employment direct/indirectly..
As Citizen of any country they want there people to be in good shape and what the leaders of US are doing right..we shouldnot take it in a wrong way.
All I can say a country would be in a better shape only when our leaders think about a common man..which the Govt in US does that. You will find many benefits for a common man.
As Citizen of any country they want there people to be in good shape and what the leaders of US are doing right..we shouldnot take it in a wrong way.
All I can say a country would be in a better shape only when our leaders think about a common man..which the Govt in US does that. You will find many benefits for a common man.
Raghu Gupta replied to: rama mohana rao anne
post - 03 Mar, 2010
post - 03 Mar, 2010
19:US has given money to india, u r wrong...
sorry... bro india has given money to US thru
the nations rich minds who go settle in US.
US profits billions from indian minds.. and
returns it minute piece of it as "donations"
or "loans" and inturn profits again thru
interests.
miran replied to: rama mohana rao anne
post - 03 Mar, 2010
post - 03 Mar, 2010
20:Dear Mr Rama Mohana Roa Anne,
It WOuld have been better if you would have made this comment with out Being drunk.(No Personal Offense Here Please)
B'coz the point to be noted is the negative thinking or Mr. Barak Obama. If he would have given a message to his country stating that they should become no 1 in any field.
But he said "we wont succed if india is having more scientists" what does that mean, it means by any means stop indians from generating more scientists.this kind of message gives a undefined meaning to the crowd to take up any means necessary to stop indians which includes violence & explotting the situations like not giving visas to indians & increasing the racisim attacks on indians.
US as a nation is on th top list of GREEN HOUSE GAS EMMISSIONS, THE PER HEAD EMMISSIONS IS MORE COMPARED TO THE PER HEAD EMMISSIONS OF INDIANS.
SO WAKE UP & VISIT INDIA MR RAMA MOHANA RAO & STAY IN YOUR COUNTRY THEN YOU WILL KNOW THE VALUE OF YOUR COUNTRY & ITS PROBLEMS.BEING IN AUSTRALIA YOU WONT KNOW ANYTHING BROTHER.
THIS IS TO MAKE YOU THINK NOT FIGHT OR WIN A ARGUMENT OVER YOU.UNDERSTAND THINK.
US as a nation or any individual might have given lot of money to india in any form but money is nothing & is of no comparsion to the intellectual minds india has given to US or to the rest of the world.
So please stop backing up any nation which speaks against to the integrity of our Nation you being an indian making this kind of comments is not fair.
No one is stopping you being a global,but before that you need to keep the intersts of your COuntry INDIA.
It WOuld have been better if you would have made this comment with out Being drunk.(No Personal Offense Here Please)
B'coz the point to be noted is the negative thinking or Mr. Barak Obama. If he would have given a message to his country stating that they should become no 1 in any field.
But he said "we wont succed if india is having more scientists" what does that mean, it means by any means stop indians from generating more scientists.this kind of message gives a undefined meaning to the crowd to take up any means necessary to stop indians which includes violence & explotting the situations like not giving visas to indians & increasing the racisim attacks on indians.
US as a nation is on th top list of GREEN HOUSE GAS EMMISSIONS, THE PER HEAD EMMISSIONS IS MORE COMPARED TO THE PER HEAD EMMISSIONS OF INDIANS.
SO WAKE UP & VISIT INDIA MR RAMA MOHANA RAO & STAY IN YOUR COUNTRY THEN YOU WILL KNOW THE VALUE OF YOUR COUNTRY & ITS PROBLEMS.BEING IN AUSTRALIA YOU WONT KNOW ANYTHING BROTHER.
THIS IS TO MAKE YOU THINK NOT FIGHT OR WIN A ARGUMENT OVER YOU.UNDERSTAND THINK.
US as a nation or any individual might have given lot of money to india in any form but money is nothing & is of no comparsion to the intellectual minds india has given to US or to the rest of the world.
So please stop backing up any nation which speaks against to the integrity of our Nation you being an indian making this kind of comments is not fair.
No one is stopping you being a global,but before that you need to keep the intersts of your COuntry INDIA.
Leader replied to: rama mohana rao anne
post - 03 Mar, 2010
post - 03 Mar, 2010
21: It is Truth In the year 2011 india is the
"Guru" for all the country as one of big
saint said that and no doubt that now India
is Perfect for all the field.
"America walae Savdhan"
"America walae Savdhan"
Posted by: Anandkumar - 03 Mar, 2010
22:Good one Anand.. But one thing is don't try
to show US in a wrong picture..
Definitely it has given us money for good causes..it never gave money to India to open restaurants..resorts etc..
Tell me does the Indian Govt does that..nor the govt officials does that..
If we need to go stronger..we need to first solve the problem in our own home. Do you know that indian govt leaders/businessmen who illegally earned money has accounted to the blackmoney which is kept in swiss bank..Does any of the govt in India is daring to bring that out.. nd even thinking to use them for needy people..
So when we dont have thoughts of solving problem at our own home..you/I/Any person shouldn't insult or shown any country down.
We all say that we are true indians..I am proud of being an india..etc..but they are good filmy dialogues..nd no one sticks to it..
My friend dont take it personal..even I am indian..
Definitely it has given us money for good causes..it never gave money to India to open restaurants..resorts etc..
Tell me does the Indian Govt does that..nor the govt officials does that..
If we need to go stronger..we need to first solve the problem in our own home. Do you know that indian govt leaders/businessmen who illegally earned money has accounted to the blackmoney which is kept in swiss bank..Does any of the govt in India is daring to bring that out.. nd even thinking to use them for needy people..
So when we dont have thoughts of solving problem at our own home..you/I/Any person shouldn't insult or shown any country down.
We all say that we are true indians..I am proud of being an india..etc..but they are good filmy dialogues..nd no one sticks to it..
My friend dont take it personal..even I am indian..
Raghu replied to: Anandkumar
post - 03 Mar, 2010
post - 03 Mar, 2010
23: We Indians are in race, so you(Americans)
would be producing more engineers and
scientiss from now so definetly the
competitors ll get increase for the next 4
years. we want competitors so we can improve
ourselfs from the peak upto now.
Posted by: GOWTHAMI.M - 03 Mar, 2010
24: Dont worry American...we Indian are not in
Race......because we are facing some problem
with which we are fighting from last 60 years
still no hope......So u enjoy ur first
position....we are here fighting for
survival. Obama should first visit India to
get rid of his worries.
Posted by: Vinay - 02 Mar, 2010
25: a) Indian Chandryan-I found water on moon
with proof.. So US(NASA) also published
yesterday that they found water on moon...:)
..
b)Indian scientists and engineers have started realizing that looking fair, tall and speaking English in US accent wont give birth to Innovation... But Hardwork and Dedication are ways to success...
c) Generally Indians over do the things... now they are behind Innovation..so they will over do innovation..which is really good...!!!
d) Scientists and Engineers Come up with Innovative Ideas to stop corruption ...
b)Indian scientists and engineers have started realizing that looking fair, tall and speaking English in US accent wont give birth to Innovation... But Hardwork and Dedication are ways to success...
c) Generally Indians over do the things... now they are behind Innovation..so they will over do innovation..which is really good...!!!
d) Scientists and Engineers Come up with Innovative Ideas to stop corruption ...
Posted by: Srinivas B N - 02 Mar, 2010
26: the moment obama came into power he strtd
makin silly comments abt the countries who r
benefiting US, n especialy he is jus making
very lewd commnets n trying to degrade the
people of other countries.....he has done
nothng bt passing comments on other
countries...how funny :) n now again passing
statements against indian scientists
:) jago indians jago auo apne desh ko sudhare
:) jago indians jago auo apne desh ko sudhare
Posted by: KJREDDY - 02 Mar, 2010
27: If India has to Grow Govt should to make rule
that nobody should own ancestral property...
Every thing should belong to govt after
he/she dies. To be on TOP WORK Should be the
only way.. If this does not happen ministers
ill find Innovative ways to enhance
corruption.
Posted by: Srinivas B N - 02 Mar, 2010
28: obama should join indian politics(MNS
type).the only thing he has done for america
is spreaded insecurity among american and
this is the base of indian politics.
Posted by: mahatama - 02 Mar, 2010
29: corruption level is so high in india no way
can we march ahead of us. fact to be accepted
Posted by: arch - 02 Mar, 2010
30:corruption is der in US also bt at one level
nt at all levels....lets b optimistic n take
a step ahead to make changes in our
country..corruption should be erradicated ri8
frm root level which is really a big n
tidious task.lets hope for sumthin best
KJREDDY replied to: arch
post - 02 Mar, 2010
post - 02 Mar, 2010
31: Obama is creating a tension and insecure
feeling among US people. This would have an
escalating effect.
This could lead to hatred and racist attacks as it is already happening in Australia. This could also lead to unethical competition practices. Eg: suppress others growth to show once relative growth more (as in Einstein’s theory of relativity).
These statements could also mean that Obama is trying to divert the attention of US people on India rather than the issues already they are facing at home (after 9-11 and the US war). Cheap tactics.
Now after these statements US people would think India, Germany etc as their enemies.
If you observe, USA is country of strategies. It doesn’t have any permanent friends or foes. Only one thing that drives USA and that is its own interest.
Most of the people who drive USA economy are non Americans, most are from Asia.
Obama should stop creating panic among people with his statements.
This could lead to hatred and racist attacks as it is already happening in Australia. This could also lead to unethical competition practices. Eg: suppress others growth to show once relative growth more (as in Einstein’s theory of relativity).
These statements could also mean that Obama is trying to divert the attention of US people on India rather than the issues already they are facing at home (after 9-11 and the US war). Cheap tactics.
Now after these statements US people would think India, Germany etc as their enemies.
If you observe, USA is country of strategies. It doesn’t have any permanent friends or foes. Only one thing that drives USA and that is its own interest.
Most of the people who drive USA economy are non Americans, most are from Asia.
Obama should stop creating panic among people with his statements.
Posted by: Vishnu Vardhan - 02 Mar, 2010
32:definitley USA's economy is frm the people
who work for them those r from asia n other
countries....Obama should nt creat such panic
n shuold nt give such statements whihc may
coz many probs.....i think indians also
should think abt this they may rather work
for our own country n make it a developed
nation at the earliest....
KJREDDY replied to: Vishnu Vardhan
post - 02 Mar, 2010
post - 02 Mar, 2010
33: That's the biggest joke! One third of US
scientists are Indians and another one third
is Chinese and Israelis. So he should instead
say more the Indians produce scientists, the
more US will benefit :) For them it is better
than more Chinese scientists in US.
One thing for sure, Obama is digging to his Presidential end. He is becoming one of US's most under performing Presidents, passing lewd comments about countries, against outsourcing, targeting US's only friend in the world, India.
One thing for sure, Obama is digging to his Presidential end. He is becoming one of US's most under performing Presidents, passing lewd comments about countries, against outsourcing, targeting US's only friend in the world, India.
Posted by: Souperman - 02 Mar, 2010
34: Hi
Guys no need to panic India and USA are best friends in the world.Either way if USA reagains its old poistion back it is defintely going to invite professionals back to its shores and iam sure that includes people from Indian Sub continent as well.
I feel rather than competition i say think of synergies that can be leveraged between the two ,how about india allevaites poverty ,that means more people that can be potential consumers this will mean companies can produce more products for the market,if the products are world class and help people live better why not and yes if USA can do that it is good ,even if India it is good.
So I feel more co-operation and friendship between the world largest democracies.
We have been to usa shores and likewise americans are welcome to come to indian shores to work here if they wish.
so lets be friends and try to be best friends
rama mohana rao anne
sydney australia
Guys no need to panic India and USA are best friends in the world.Either way if USA reagains its old poistion back it is defintely going to invite professionals back to its shores and iam sure that includes people from Indian Sub continent as well.
I feel rather than competition i say think of synergies that can be leveraged between the two ,how about india allevaites poverty ,that means more people that can be potential consumers this will mean companies can produce more products for the market,if the products are world class and help people live better why not and yes if USA can do that it is good ,even if India it is good.
So I feel more co-operation and friendship between the world largest democracies.
We have been to usa shores and likewise americans are welcome to come to indian shores to work here if they wish.
so lets be friends and try to be best friends
rama mohana rao anne
sydney australia
Posted by: rama mohana rao anne - 02 Mar, 2010
35:Well said, Rama!
India and the United States have much to gain by international cooperation and friendship. Both countries win!
India and the United States have much to gain by international cooperation and friendship. Both countries win!
Allen replied to: rama mohana rao anne
post - 02 Mar, 2010
post - 02 Mar, 2010
36:In fact US don’t have a permanent ally. The
make and break as per their business need
time to time. They chose
Pakistan/India/china/Afghanistan/Iraq/Taliban
as per the need of the time. It depends how
they can utilize others. They have done this
many times in world history. Only driving
force for them is ‘Greed’. So don’t
look at US as a trusted friend. Status may
change at any time.
wills replied to: rama mohana rao anne
post - 02 Mar, 2010
post - 02 Mar, 2010
37: Yes Wills, you are right.
All the time USA dominating the other countries and interfering in other countries matters and utilizing their sources by this way. one simple example for this is: IRAQ WAR - To capture the whole oil refineries.
All the time USA dominating the other countries and interfering in other countries matters and utilizing their sources by this way. one simple example for this is: IRAQ WAR - To capture the whole oil refineries.
mohan kumar replied to: wills
post - 03 Mar, 2010
post - 03 Mar, 2010
38: Totally agree with youm, Wills. I guess the
only two permanent friends in the world are
India & Russia. We Indians have never
broken our relations with them, despite the
new relations with USA.
US can be trusted only for anti-trust in many cases. Let's not forget the USSR-Afghanistan war and the current Taliban-Afghanistan situation.
US can be trusted only for anti-trust in many cases. Let's not forget the USSR-Afghanistan war and the current Taliban-Afghanistan situation.
Rocker replied to: wills
post - 02 Mar, 2010
post - 02 Mar, 2010
39: u r ri8 US can never b trustd as a gud
frnd...n cuming to the statement americans
cuming to india to work....its jus a day
drm....they r gr8 opportunists.....infact
indians shld wake up n shld thnk of working
for our mother nation n develop it...
KJREDDY replied to: wills
post - 02 Mar, 2010
post - 02 Mar, 2010
40: U r right
Sukant replied to: wills
post - 02 Mar, 2010
post - 02 Mar, 2010
41: We all are the childrens of mother earth
first, these childrens has divided mother
earth into different countries and state
which is sad.
Nationalist feeling is costly in following way
* you waste your valuable resources in building military infrastructure
*you just think of your own people your own economy
* and there are many......
I say think globally. The corporate world has already started thinking this way but things will change when political world will start thinking in the same way.
Dont raise slogans like I am American, I am Indian, I am Chinese , I am from XYZ. This will create boundries and Politicians are fooling us from long on this to get votes.
Nationalist feeling is costly in following way
* you waste your valuable resources in building military infrastructure
*you just think of your own people your own economy
* and there are many......
I say think globally. The corporate world has already started thinking this way but things will change when political world will start thinking in the same way.
Dont raise slogans like I am American, I am Indian, I am Chinese , I am from XYZ. This will create boundries and Politicians are fooling us from long on this to get votes.
Posted by: Global - 02 Mar, 2010
42:Absolutely i agree with your comments.
First of all each and every person in the world should love each other including its a creature or whatever in the universe.
The above said statement is particularly for all the politicians who ever in the world who may be ruling their country, they should understand the situation of the current world. there are lots of war and terrorism have destroying the world and nature.
LOVE ONLY WILL MAKE THE PEACEFUL AND UNITY AND GROWTH AMONG THE WORLD......
lets see whats happening....
First of all each and every person in the world should love each other including its a creature or whatever in the universe.
The above said statement is particularly for all the politicians who ever in the world who may be ruling their country, they should understand the situation of the current world. there are lots of war and terrorism have destroying the world and nature.
LOVE ONLY WILL MAKE THE PEACEFUL AND UNITY AND GROWTH AMONG THE WORLD......
lets see whats happening....
mohan kumar replied to: Global
post - 03 Mar, 2010
post - 03 Mar, 2010
43: These are the complements to india or fear of
Obama.
India has enough talent and human resources which Govt of India is not able to utilise that is unfortunate for India. Yet i am sure that indian scientiests ,engineers and others who have contributed to the progress of india shall give appropriare answer to the words of obama indue course not by words but by their aceivements. I am proud of u my dears.
India has enough talent and human resources which Govt of India is not able to utilise that is unfortunate for India. Yet i am sure that indian scientiests ,engineers and others who have contributed to the progress of india shall give appropriare answer to the words of obama indue course not by words but by their aceivements. I am proud of u my dears.
Posted by: jaiparkash sharma - 02 Mar, 2010
44:Where is the time to produce babies in the
first place in so called developed countries?
let alone scientists. It is not enough to see
the fruits. They have to learn to see the
root. Family value is more important.
In the modern age people are asset and who has more asset? obviously China and India. No wonder, assets are bringing the wealth.
In the modern age people are asset and who has more asset? obviously China and India. No wonder, assets are bringing the wealth.
omkrishna replied to: jaiparkash sharma
post - 02 Mar, 2010
post - 02 Mar, 2010
45: Very well said, Om! USA has always focused on
the materialistic & commercial aspects of
life, rather than the spiritual and basic
aspects. So they are dying to build more
ROBOTS than ASSETS (humans).
Which is why we are seeing these reactions from them....
Which is why we are seeing these reactions from them....
Rocker replied to: omkrishna
post - 02 Mar, 2010
post - 02 Mar, 2010
46:
The apprehension of President Barack Obama about supremacy of USA in the world in the wake of tremendous developments in fields like Science and Technology, Clean Energy Technologies in countries like India, China, Brazil and Russia, is understandable.
While developed European and Asia Pacific economies have received a significant amount of attention, the most popular investment destinations remain the four largest emerging market countries: Brazil, Russia, India, and China, collectively known as the “BRIC” economies. Together, these four countries currently comprise 40% of the world’s population and 15% of GDP, ensuring that they will be a force to be reckoned with on the global stage for years to come. Meanwhile, combined foreign reserves total over $3.1 trillion, potentially allowing these countries to influence world trade and push politics more towards a multipolar world.
However there are many issues to be tackled for further advancement of science and technology in India.
In a thought provoking article, Securing India’s science future (The Hindu, November 12,2009) N. R. Narayana Murthy brought out many interesting points on the growth of Science and Technology in India:
In 2004, while reviewing the science and technology policy of the Government of India, A.P.J. Abdul Kalam said: “In a world where the powers are determined by the share of the world’s knowledge, reflected by patents, papers and so on…it is important for India to put all her acts together to become a continuous innovator and creator of science and technology intensive products.” The importance of scientific and technological advancement in today’s highly globalised environment cannot be overstated.
If we are to go by an observation in a report by India’s Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade that “the health of a nation depends, among other factors, on the health of the state of its science and technology,” we have cause to be concerned about the health of our nation. In an increasingly competitive global economy, knowledge-driven growth powered by innovation is a critical imperative. While India is uniquely positioned to use technology for progress, it has in the recent past lagged behind considerably in the quality and spread of science research. This is a critical lacuna that could well determine the fate not just of our scientific and developmental future but, more importantly, of our progress as a nation.
Status and challenges
A recent study by Thomson Reuters titled Global Research Report: India concluded that, given ideal conditions, India’s research productivity would be on a par with that of most G8 nations within seven to eight years and that it could probably overtake them in 2015-2020. In the last decade, India has seen its annual output of scientific publications grow from roughly 16,500 in 1998 to nearly 30,000 in 2007. Before we pat ourselves on the back, it would be good to consider things in perspective. Although India produces about 400,000 engineering graduates and about 300,000 computer science graduates every year, just about 20,000 master’s degree holders and fewer than 1,000 Ph.Ds in engineering graduate each year.
In 2007-08, India had about 156 researchers per million in the population, compared with 4,700 per million in the United States. In terms of sheer numbers, in 2007 China had 1,423,000 researchers, second internationally to the United States, which had almost 1,571,000. India by comparison had 154,800. India’s spend on R&D in 2007-08 was about US$ 24 billion compared with China’s investment of about US$ 104 billion back in 2006 and the United States’ US$ 368 billion. These comparative allocations, which have not changed much since then, reveal the gross inadequacy in India’s commitment to research, considering our scientists’ potential and our aspirations as a nation.
A survey of 47 universities conducted by the University Grants Commission in 2007-08 revealed vacancy levels as high as 51 per cent. It is evident that the majority of India’s graduating engineers, particularly the cream, are going directly into the job market – affecting the number and quality of those available for research. This trend is partly because of the widespread notion that remuneration in a research career is below par and partly because of the lack of adequate encouragement and direction for young potential researchers.
Not enough Ph.Ds graduate in India — be it in number or excellence — to meet the growing staff requirements of its universities. As a result, even the quality of faculty has shown a declining trend and this is bound to have serious repercussions on the country’s intellectual edge. Add to this the issues of politicisation of the Indian scientific establishment, particularly in according due recognition, the lack of adequate funding and infrastructure, and the disparity in research funds and facilities available to universities. Further, the long-time policy of target-oriented research in selected thrust areas, as against open-ended research, has often come at the cost of the basic sciences. It is common knowledge that research in basic sciences is a critical pre-requisite for the success of applied sciences and the bedrock of all technological advancement.
The need for a strong science eco-system based on a sound research foundation has an integral connect with India’s development as a world power. India needs the best intellect available for government, business, military, or any aspect of society to strive for global excellence. Their accomplishments need to be lauded and brought to the forefront. Globally, there are several prestigious awards that ensure due recognition, visibility, and reward for outstanding achievements in research. There is a need to emulate this in India to encourage higher levels of research work with an impact on India’s development. One such initiative is the Infosys Prize, which has been instituted to honour outstanding researchers who make a difference to India’s scientific future and to motivate youngsters to consider careers in research. Overall, there is a need for many more integrated, multi-pronged, and multi-institutional interventions to encourage greater participation and strengthening of scientific research in India. Our success in ensuring this over the next few years will determine how best we will be able to secure India’s scientific and developmental future.
Dr.A.Jagadeesh Nellore(AP)
The apprehension of President Barack Obama about supremacy of USA in the world in the wake of tremendous developments in fields like Science and Technology, Clean Energy Technologies in countries like India, China, Brazil and Russia, is understandable.
While developed European and Asia Pacific economies have received a significant amount of attention, the most popular investment destinations remain the four largest emerging market countries: Brazil, Russia, India, and China, collectively known as the “BRIC” economies. Together, these four countries currently comprise 40% of the world’s population and 15% of GDP, ensuring that they will be a force to be reckoned with on the global stage for years to come. Meanwhile, combined foreign reserves total over $3.1 trillion, potentially allowing these countries to influence world trade and push politics more towards a multipolar world.
However there are many issues to be tackled for further advancement of science and technology in India.
In a thought provoking article, Securing India’s science future (The Hindu, November 12,2009) N. R. Narayana Murthy brought out many interesting points on the growth of Science and Technology in India:
In 2004, while reviewing the science and technology policy of the Government of India, A.P.J. Abdul Kalam said: “In a world where the powers are determined by the share of the world’s knowledge, reflected by patents, papers and so on…it is important for India to put all her acts together to become a continuous innovator and creator of science and technology intensive products.” The importance of scientific and technological advancement in today’s highly globalised environment cannot be overstated.
If we are to go by an observation in a report by India’s Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade that “the health of a nation depends, among other factors, on the health of the state of its science and technology,” we have cause to be concerned about the health of our nation. In an increasingly competitive global economy, knowledge-driven growth powered by innovation is a critical imperative. While India is uniquely positioned to use technology for progress, it has in the recent past lagged behind considerably in the quality and spread of science research. This is a critical lacuna that could well determine the fate not just of our scientific and developmental future but, more importantly, of our progress as a nation.
Status and challenges
A recent study by Thomson Reuters titled Global Research Report: India concluded that, given ideal conditions, India’s research productivity would be on a par with that of most G8 nations within seven to eight years and that it could probably overtake them in 2015-2020. In the last decade, India has seen its annual output of scientific publications grow from roughly 16,500 in 1998 to nearly 30,000 in 2007. Before we pat ourselves on the back, it would be good to consider things in perspective. Although India produces about 400,000 engineering graduates and about 300,000 computer science graduates every year, just about 20,000 master’s degree holders and fewer than 1,000 Ph.Ds in engineering graduate each year.
In 2007-08, India had about 156 researchers per million in the population, compared with 4,700 per million in the United States. In terms of sheer numbers, in 2007 China had 1,423,000 researchers, second internationally to the United States, which had almost 1,571,000. India by comparison had 154,800. India’s spend on R&D in 2007-08 was about US$ 24 billion compared with China’s investment of about US$ 104 billion back in 2006 and the United States’ US$ 368 billion. These comparative allocations, which have not changed much since then, reveal the gross inadequacy in India’s commitment to research, considering our scientists’ potential and our aspirations as a nation.
A survey of 47 universities conducted by the University Grants Commission in 2007-08 revealed vacancy levels as high as 51 per cent. It is evident that the majority of India’s graduating engineers, particularly the cream, are going directly into the job market – affecting the number and quality of those available for research. This trend is partly because of the widespread notion that remuneration in a research career is below par and partly because of the lack of adequate encouragement and direction for young potential researchers.
Not enough Ph.Ds graduate in India — be it in number or excellence — to meet the growing staff requirements of its universities. As a result, even the quality of faculty has shown a declining trend and this is bound to have serious repercussions on the country’s intellectual edge. Add to this the issues of politicisation of the Indian scientific establishment, particularly in according due recognition, the lack of adequate funding and infrastructure, and the disparity in research funds and facilities available to universities. Further, the long-time policy of target-oriented research in selected thrust areas, as against open-ended research, has often come at the cost of the basic sciences. It is common knowledge that research in basic sciences is a critical pre-requisite for the success of applied sciences and the bedrock of all technological advancement.
The need for a strong science eco-system based on a sound research foundation has an integral connect with India’s development as a world power. India needs the best intellect available for government, business, military, or any aspect of society to strive for global excellence. Their accomplishments need to be lauded and brought to the forefront. Globally, there are several prestigious awards that ensure due recognition, visibility, and reward for outstanding achievements in research. There is a need to emulate this in India to encourage higher levels of research work with an impact on India’s development. One such initiative is the Infosys Prize, which has been instituted to honour outstanding researchers who make a difference to India’s scientific future and to motivate youngsters to consider careers in research. Overall, there is a need for many more integrated, multi-pronged, and multi-institutional interventions to encourage greater participation and strengthening of scientific research in India. Our success in ensuring this over the next few years will determine how best we will be able to secure India’s scientific and developmental future.
Dr.A.Jagadeesh Nellore(AP)
Posted by: Dr.A.Jagadeesh - 02 Mar, 2010
47:Well said Dr.Jagdeesh,yes it is true.If India
has a central university dedicated only for
research with No Mandals,I mean
reservation,we can dominate this globe how
our ancestors once were with having almost
50% global
trade.JaiHind.Shyam.P.Kunte,Chennai
Shyam Prabhakar Kunte replied to: Dr.A.Jagadeesh
post - 02 Mar, 2010
post - 02 Mar, 2010
48: India and China is definitely giving a tough
competition for the Western World..
Posted by: Hari - 02 Mar, 2010
49:To make this competition effective and
focussing to overall developement of the
country,our industry&commerce ministry
and other supporting department should take
necessary initiatives and proper proceedings
to make our country no.1.
second thing is the tech.&indus. system designing/redesigning and implementation based on requirements and limitations.
third is the effective &selective participation and co-ordination of the employees in different stages and departments to fulfill respective goals.
afterall the main thing is the passion of everybodies to attain and maintain the goal with hardwork and discipline.
LET'S MAKE INDIA GREAT
second thing is the tech.&indus. system designing/redesigning and implementation based on requirements and limitations.
third is the effective &selective participation and co-ordination of the employees in different stages and departments to fulfill respective goals.
afterall the main thing is the passion of everybodies to attain and maintain the goal with hardwork and discipline.
LET'S MAKE INDIA GREAT
BINS replied to: Hari
post - 02 Mar, 2010
post - 02 Mar, 2010
50: I think India is the country which is the
birth place of brilliant minds. Although,
many of them could not show the world their
due to lack of resources or negligence or
supervision. Many of indians want to work
with US or other countries only because of
money and good living conditions. If all
facilities are provided here in india to the
scientists, then India could soon become
number one.
Hope for bright future of INDIA
Hope for bright future of INDIA
Manvir replied to: BINS
post - 02 Mar, 2010
post - 02 Mar, 2010
51: true said... m completely agree with u..
having stuied in IIT, I had to come out for
my PhD and job, as India cant provide jobs
except IT.. This is crazy
ratnesh replied to: Manvir
post - 04 Mar, 2010
post - 04 Mar, 2010
52: Acoording to the US scholar ''THE CLASHES OF
GLOBAL CIVILISATION AND END OF ALL
BARRIER''.
for the betterment and global peace with better life in this earth both the country should work according to the Indian Philoshopy with US aspiration to solve the problem of this planet Earth. so,Lets focus on the problem suffering and other problem which hound the globe again and again.Healthy compitation is alwas welcome for a healthy global community.
for the betterment and global peace with better life in this earth both the country should work according to the Indian Philoshopy with US aspiration to solve the problem of this planet Earth. so,Lets focus on the problem suffering and other problem which hound the globe again and again.Healthy compitation is alwas welcome for a healthy global community.
Biswajit Das replied to: Manvir
post - 03 Mar, 2010
post - 03 Mar, 2010
53: Only thing India has created like is much of
talking nonsense, look at it we open a blog
site & keep on commenting on others
rather appreciating
swamy replied to: Biswajit Das
post - 03 Mar, 2010
post - 03 Mar, 2010
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