No engineer in India good enough for Infy prize?

1: Really interesting blog, keep up the good work!

Posted by: synthroid online - 27 Aug, 2011

2: Really great article with very interesting information. You might want to follow up to this topic!?! 2012

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3: Companies should allow and encourage freshars engineers more freedom to do something new rather than forcing them to choose the older paths. I think colleges should also make the students engaged in rasearch work

Posted by: SUBHAJIT - 17 Dec, 2009

4:100% agree

 vinu replied to: SUBHAJIT 
 post - 24 Dec, 2009

5: Companies should give opportunities for the new engineers(freshers) or any engg. .the, 60% in Engineering req, should not come between engineers and company. .they should give importance to talent. .like what our BIAL has done. .giving the opportunity to Arch college grads to design for BIAL.

Posted by: Aghil - 14 Dec, 2009

6: I never knew about this
- Sreeraj Krishnan mindtree

Posted by: Sreeraj Krishnan - 09 Dec, 2009

7: That was sure that nobody will get from India.....I did not participate.....

Posted by: Vin - 07 Dec, 2009

8: cum on guyz...the award is meant for me only...

Posted by: mayank - 05 Dec, 2009

9: well i am a new up coming engineer but the prize is ment for me fortunately or unfortunately

Posted by: Akash - 05 Dec, 2009

10: Myself too an Engineer, whats happening in my life is when I choose an industry which is the place for innovation and to acquire knowledge, the pay is too low, my family doesnt accept to work there. Instead in another company where it lacks technical stuff and less knowledge the pay is more. My choice is I gone for second one since I opt for good pay by killing my brain.

Posted by: Selva - 05 Dec, 2009

11: It may be that this year there must not be an engineer winning the award,but that doesn't means that India doesn't has capable engineers.India has one of the best engineers but they are not given the opportunities for their innovations and so they are moving out of India.Even freshers are not given any chances,so no innovations.You need to have new guys for new innovations.Let the new ones try and then you come on the result.

Posted by: An Engineer of India - 05 Dec, 2009

12:I appreciate your comment. I am also a Mechanical Engineer and doing job in GCC. I prefer to work in India but working in GCC due to less pay scale in India. Indian government has to force themselves to arrange the opportunities in india with good wages like European and American countries.

 Irfan replied to: An Engineer of India 
 post - 05 Dec, 2009

13: If we are considering Indians then we should we consider Mr. Pranav Mistry.Pranav Mistry is a PhD student in the Fluid Interfaces Group at MITs Media Lab. Before his studies at MIT he worked with Microsoft as a UX researcher he is a graduate of IIT. Mistry is passionate about integrating the digital informational experience with our real world interactions. Some previous projects from Mistrys work at MIT includes intelligent sticky notes Quickies that can be searched and can send reminders a pen that draws in 3D and TaPuMa a tangible public map that can act as Google of physical world. His research interests also include Gestural and Tangible Interaction, Ubiquitous Computing AI Machine Vision Collective Intelligence and Robotics.

Posted by: NitinPithadia - 03 Dec, 2009

14: What I request all these people who posted their comments is to have the same spirit and passion to change the scene at the national level. Have right perspective and complete knowledge so that your view is taken in right perspective and has some impact. Instead of throwing your personal frustration on Infosys, condemn those who kept such provocative title.

Even people like Pradeep with such fancy titled blog (I didn't go through the blog My line is just for the title )feel as if industries are not for Innovation. They are but those innovations are Patented and made much bigger money. How many of you know about Hindustan Lever world class R&D centre with so many innovations? Lets not be emotional and sentimental. Let us contribute for a positive change with this commitment. Jai Hind

Posted by: aasha - 03 Dec, 2009

15:Well said asha.. Gr8 lines of advice to all those who posted their views..

 dpk replied to: aasha 
 post - 03 Dec, 2009

16:excellent posting Asha --I think this posting should close this discussion without any further emotional and sentimental stuff by one and all

 Raj Vaidya  replied to: aasha 
 post - 03 Dec, 2009

17: It is good to see/read that we have people who are reacting to something. But not enough to change the scene at the national level. Few of the comments are just their personal vexation(what does company hiring policy do with the foundation statutes?) and few are without knowing complete details (The award is not just for individuals but even to group of people)
The point here is not that India lacks good engineers. See the news in the same place with title Two Indian projects win $50K tech awards Yes this is the reason. If an engineers work is good enough why should he go to lesser prize competition?
Also almost all of you are forgetting about IP rights and the PATENT! If the work is worth enough one can have a patent and companies will buy them for much bigger money.
Few of the people mentioned some organisations which they felt are worthy. But in all those places, at least one person who will not meet the criteria will be present as one of the contributor(sometimes even if they don't have any contribution) So it is simple that the whole group will be out of criteria.
Another criteria is when it is a group all the members work should have been conducted in India. Most of the times we have foreign scientists /persons or people who are not in India being involved in the project/work.
So may be the Statutes are to be modified for engineering category or Jury should be more liberal like in Basic sciences. If in Basic Sciences we have such commendable people why are we not able to get a Noble prize from any resident Indians?
I think all those engineers out there should send a notice for keeping such a derogatory title. Infact all Indians should protest. Infosys has some criteria which is not met does not mean such a derogatory title. Go to IITs and BITs and few of the institutions and you will find worthy people who are hired by worlds best Industries. It is ridiculous in this IP age that no engineer is worthy for a petty 50 lacs.
I am from Patent Area and I can vouch that there are much brilliant people than this prize.

Posted by: aasha - 03 Dec, 2009

18: Looks like all chaps who were frustrated for their own reasons by working for Infosys use this as a forum to let off their steam by pouring out unsubstantiated charges against Infosys and other individuals and satisfy their own ego and still claim you are all the best minds Infosys should be looking for . No wonder no prizes could be awarded to such Engineers who claim to be the best in the world.

Posted by: Naresh Rajan  - 02 Dec, 2009

19: No worries I will also launch another fraud company shortly which wich will provide the awards as "Most Fraud Employer" and "Most Fraud Employee" awards which will obviously go to .... I suppose I don't need to explain that :)

Posted by: Fraudmaster - 02 Dec, 2009

20: I agree with Pradeep, who has raised the pertinent questions. Without a culture or commitment to INNOVATION or whatever other form of Original Work in the Engineering Industry just to expect miracles to happen is just not very becoming. I am even surprised that the Infy Orgn could find someone in other basic sciences areas! It is even surprising that given the Indian penchant for quick-buck making atrategies as the most attractive ones-a la the Engineering Industry- there still are some people not necessarily from the Academia who are even engaged in such research as can be called fundamental. Any way that is heartening. BTB have the Infy Organisation Publicised their criteria enough to see what those criteria are and a non-interested party can evaluste the work identified by them as a good transparent decision?

Posted by: MAHADEVA S SARMA - 02 Dec, 2009

21:Indeed one of the most sensible and balanced blog -Mr.mahadev sarma --among the craps we see here all around by the so called engineers and the educated --who only exhibit more emotions than any reasoning or scientific thinking .

 raj vaidya  replied to: MAHADEVA S SARMA 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

22: Feel free to be proud of the numbers (7 lac engineers), but ask these questions:

1. "Are these engineers INNOVATIVE?" (that is, do they create new-to-the-world innovations?)

2. "Do businesses and institutions have a CULTURE that can only produce INNOVATION?"

Pradeep
www.PowerOfNew.com (innovation & change leadership blog)

Posted by: Pradeep - 02 Dec, 2009

23:Only scientist and researchers do that part, we Engineers use those results for designing new products. we do not publish papers as researchers and scientists do, so the work will not come to light. So what do engineers in India do, we basically dont have facilities which will allow us to do the kind of R&D, hence most of the work will be done usually ahead in developed countries and we will be left to copy it. Our govt approves only if we are denied something by developed countries, thats why we have super computer "PARAM" and we have our own Sattelites in space but we do not have a airplane/helicopter of our own..

 Sathiyan replied to: Pradeep 
 post - 05 Dec, 2009

24: It is sad to read," Infosys Technologies reportedly having failed to find a worthy candidate for its Infosys Engineering Science Prize 2009. The company has decided not to give the prize in that category to anyone this year. Infosys' Chief Operating Officer (COO)".

Does it mean there are no competent Engineers in the country worthy to carry out research? How about Infosys itself? Are there not competent and qualified Engineers to get the so called" Infosys Engineering Science Prize 2009" is claimed as the biggest award in the country for research(Rs 50 lakhs), Rs 50 lakhs is nothing compared to the crores of corruption with some of Indian politicians and officials.

There are prestigious S. S. Bhatnagar Awards and Other Science Awards which are more prestigious than Infosys Prize.

India did not produce a Nobel Prize after Independence? Does it mean there are no quality scientists and quality research in science in India? Country has excellent Science and Technology Laboratories and Institutes and World renowned scientists. Mere Award is not a barometer to measure the strength of a Scientist.

It is nepotism, infighting, sunstroke that forbid for emergence of quality science and technology in the country in many cases. Everybody knows it but nobody is prepared to set right the system We need strong political will of the calibre of Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru and Smt.Indira Gandhiji to carry forward the Science and Technology of the world class.

Dr.A.Jagadeesh Nellore (AP)

Posted by: Dr.A.Jagadeesh - 02 Dec, 2009

25: Inability to find a worthy Engineer for an award is more because of the failure on the part of Infosys than because of non-availablity of worthy Engineers. Now it is an era of collective performance and if Infosys hunts for individual brilliance, it may not be evident as it used to be, I am of the opinion that Infosys, if they are good in their intention, must look for excelling organisation than one individual to be judged as the performer of an year. And if by any chance, they feel none performed to their judgement, then really sorry for their level & capability of judgement

Posted by: sachicalicut - 02 Dec, 2009

26: Here are my thoughts..

This kind of money/donations(50Lacs) for a contest is the direct out come of easy money being made from our co's/individuals. and also depicts that few co's/individuals are making money and taking pride in donating the money without earning it in first place.

Its very surprising to see the trend that co's are expecting blessings to happen without even praying it for. i.e. innovation to happen by "engineers" and co's/individuals come seek them by offerings :)

My two cents goes to: Let these Top money/individuals go and fund the colleges/schools where the innovation happens on regular basis and I am sure they will run out money in a day/month/year :)

Posted by: Gururaj - 02 Dec, 2009

27: Title is wrong...Without good Indian Engineer, Infy would not able to qualify this stage to tell that "No good Engineer in India"

Posted by: Paddy - 02 Dec, 2009

28:hahaha. i wish narayan murthy sees and knows what we think about his company's coveted intentions

 bijunator replied to: Paddy 
 post - 03 Dec, 2009

29: As long as Infosys hires non-IT & non-computer engineers for their coveted programmer jobs and eventually lock-up their otherwise enlightened profession of civil, mech, chem, electronics engineers, definitely there will be a huge deficit in the engineering arena of India.

Here, Iam proud to tell that my dad is much much great engineer than Infosys, as my dad serviced for Indian Highways Dept. His first deputation right after his Diploma in Civil Engg.(which he received from our well-known Indian education system) was on a railway bridge construction. And then later moved on to Indian Highways Dept.

So dear Infosys, pls stop spoiling the careers of civil, mech, chem, electronics & any other engineers by giving them 10 puzzles (with question paper leaks) to get them recruited on your board. If you still continue to do such wrong things, then possibly you have initiated the next global recession.

Thanks,
Selva

Posted by: Selva - 02 Dec, 2009

30:good, Yes! stop Infosys recruit system (10 puzzles).

--
SureshKumar Moorthy

 SureshKumar moorthy replied to: Selva 
 post - 03 Dec, 2009

31:Very good selva..I also thought this to say with a good example u had explained Thank u very much

 jai replied to: Selva 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

32: Its really bad to knw that Infy thinks there is no gud engineers in India. Truth is that infy has never tried recuriting Engineers less than 60% for any IT related jobs as far as i am concerned theres lot of Talented Engineers in my country all they have to do is dare to find their talent rather percentage.
Also u can nvr judge a person on his scores.
Am sure my country has some dedicated and really talented engineers.. try to find them on the basis of knowledge not scores...

Jai hind,,

I am sorry if had made any wrongs statements , It just is my personal views .

Posted by: Vishwanath K.V  - 02 Dec, 2009

33: Its really bad to have this type of issue in our country.

Posted by: A.S.Reddy - 02 Dec, 2009

34: Dear Readers,

I have read almost all the comments before writing my own. I felt bad after reading the article and great to see that none of us are feels to be dependent on the so called Prizes from any XYZ company. After all "Infosys Technologies", the holding organization of the Infosys Science Foundation, is NOT a Not-for-Profit organization, and so like any other profitable organization IT/Non-IT Infosys has also established this foundation as a carrier for their publicity stunts to get into good books of industry, scholars, researchers, students and surge ahead of competitors. So how does it matter, if a cola company sponsors Cricket or Infosys through its own foundation sponsors some related / unrelated things like these awards and spends some fractions of their profits which they eventually get back in profits from the increased business and stock prices, due to the publicity gained. (Bonus: Get's into the good books of all related and unrelated). ONE REAL TIME BENEFIT/PROFIT OF SUCH ACTIVITIES: Mr. Nandan Nilekani became the Chairman of the Unique ID project of India. Does anyone in this country, the common man knows: Why he is the only one chosen for the post equivalent to a Cabinet Minister in rank? A layman’s answer would be: Just because he headed one of the Biggest Indian IT companies – called “Infosys”, so he can handle this thing as well.

Infosys being a profit making organization, by selling the "Indian Talent" to the world, started this publicity stunt a few years back, to gain the "Profits" through "Good Channels", i appreciate that and there is nothing wrong in that as all businesses (for profits) do something or the else to create their brand image, a good brand image, and gain profits from various channels. But the catch is, when Infosys started these awards, there was no slowdown / recession, and unknowingly they have “Adopted an Elephant as a pet”, so now, they have to sponsor these prizes/ awards every year to keep going with the “Good Image” they tried to create, whether their business can support it or not, they have to give away the Cash Awards unlike any cola company sponsoring cricket, Infosys cannot say that this year they are not sponsoring the awards, else they will be the spoil-sport. In reality, at same time before announcing these awards, to avoid being a spoil-sport, they have FIRED almost some 3000+ employees across DCs “under-cover” in the current O-N-D quarter (though unconfirmed but reliable news from a senior Infy insider). So what inference one can make – “to fund these awards, Infy has saved money through cost cutting exercises by FIRING 3000+ employees or Forced them by any means to Quit”. So, in order to save their “ass” and the so called “good public image”, they have announced few awards up to the extent where they can stretch, and to save their “pockets” said: “No engineer in India good enough for its Infosys Engineering Science Prize 2009”. Indian talent has been well recognized by the world – US president recently commented “US professionals have to take on the folks in Bangalore and Beijing”. Whereas China on the other hand is getting anxious of India (through its rich talent) is taking the world by storm, and will surpass China if the trend continues. I don't think that anyone in this country who is already an engineer and doing good in his/her career require this kind of support from anyone. Rather, if Infosys through any of its foundation wants to do something, PLEASE GO AND DO SOMETHING FOR THE UNDER-PRIVILEGED CHILDREN OF THIS COUNTRY. None of the professionally qualified "Engineer" or "Scientist" needs the money from any ABC Foundation or XYZ company. If anything which is needed by them is the help from our own Government by various means and ways, like favorable policies and governance framework, transparency and corruption-free administration, and every self sufficient engineer/scientist/scholar through their own talent will be able to prove the world what they are, and what they can do. Infosys, is only one company in this world, which claims to be having everyone on board with consistent excellent performance in academics throughout (where excellent means as of these days above 60%), a fact which is HARD TO DIGEST. Close to one lakh people all with excellent mark-sheets, BUT NOT IMPOSSIBLE. And I think that this is the only criteria that Infy sponsors the people who are already doing good, so that in return favor, infy can make / accrue profits. Just this time, because of their own inability to invest for future gains, they had blamed the Indian Talent, which they are exploiting since years. But that doesn’t mean other people have no brains, and they cannot do any good or they are of no good. Just think.

Sorry for my hard words, if anyone of you don’t agree or felt bad of my comments or i hurt someone feelings. But truth is always bitter. India is a land of great people, and a democratic country. Jai Hind.

Posted by: ASAGAR - 02 Dec, 2009

35:So I feel that from now on NO Engineer should receive the award from this poor organisation.

 Sathiyan replied to: ASAGAR 
 post - 05 Dec, 2009

36:to fund the awards " Infy does not need to fire people . The awards are given from a corpus fund . Rs 50 Cr has been used the fund .
No engineer is good enough does not mean engineers are useless , but the criteria ( which we do not know)for the awards might have made Infy not to give an award to engineering discipline.
And for all people blabbering about Infy , neither of Infosys management will choose the recipents . It will be done by an eminent jury and the jury decides whom to gives the award .

 reds replied to: ASAGAR 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

37:Adding to the Infy criteria of consistent academic performance, don't know what does this mean, but for sure it is one of those Lakeer-ke-fakeer attitude, where they welcome the people scoring "consistent performance" with mugged up books and texts without understanding a word, and learn over years while sitting on bench or spending time in luxurious Infosys Hotels in Mysore.

Not even freshers, Infosys is the only company which asks to write 10th and 12th marks and meet the consistent performance criteria from lateral with even 15 - 20 years of experience. Really cannot understand the logic. I am worried of Infosys' future strategy in the coming 4 to 5 years as CBSE has already made the 10th board exams optional, and is in the process of making the other one optional as well. other boards to follow. I am pity of either Infosys or the people who do not appear for Board exams. How the 'Consistent Performance' criteria will be met.

 agarwal replied to: ASAGAR 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

38: true many of the famous scientists and innovators were not good in thier schools or in colleges

 Sathiyan replied to:  agarwal 
 post - 05 Dec, 2009

39: I do not think Infy looked hard enough to find good engineer who should get this award, I can probably give at least one or two names who are changing the world of computing with his or her new technology process or innovation.

 subhash replied to:  agarwal 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

40: Nothing is going to happen just by putting such an argument.
My suggestion is to go in your way to come up with new inventions for our nation's development. The award etc what the organisations like Infosys are doing to make themselves popular and to escape from Government's strong hands etc.

For example, how the Nobel peace prize is announced for Obama even.

Just watch and enjoy the fun. thats it.

If you are really a talented, then dont forget there is the stage for you. Take our Abdul kalam for example.

Posted by: Ganesh - 02 Dec, 2009

41: Hi,

Did Infosys hear abt Chandrayaan ? It was developed by our Indian Engineers. Even NASA has appreciated the efforts of Indians.

Regards
Kalyan

Posted by: Kalyan - 02 Dec, 2009

42: This is what is known as Intellectual snobbery!

Posted by: M.R. Sriprasad - 02 Dec, 2009

43: It's funny, Infosys rode over these good for nothing engineers and became a multi million dollar MNC. This is called the cruel irony.
Now, in India, our mentality is earning money. Children are groomed from the very child to become money oriented. How to get a job is the priority. Researchers, thinkers, philosophers, blah blahs end up with horn rimmed spectacles and a shoulder bag made of cloth/khaki with ideas, writings, blah blahs which none of these high quality, recently become, intelligent hubs, our own MNCs don't sponsor, don't appreciate. It's our tradition of being loud mouth. Fanatics boast about culture, corporates boast about their standards. We make assembly line robots whose directive is to earn money and not think or innovate.

Posted by: bijunator - 02 Dec, 2009

44:Well Said, great comments from Ganesh as well truthfull argument from ASAGAR.Majority of professional graduates has one thing in mind how to pass the day with good impression so he/she can make more money which is been programmed in the mind from day one.
Here is a suggetion if someone can make a wave and form a massive call to release the swiss accounts name and amount back to this country they deserve a nobel price. it's a bigger war we ever faced so for.

 Jay replied to: bijunator 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

45: they didn't have time to fill out an application, as they were all had their head burried in the Infosys and other desi SWEAT shops...
btw, there is no creativity in India, even IITians have a one track mind and they don't learn the value of creativity. Most of the brightest minds in India don't work together to comeup with the new discoveries, technologies, etc.

Posted by: nicm - 02 Dec, 2009

46: Plz correct the wording of the article....

"No Good Engg of India, bothered to participate for Infy Prize"

"Infy failed to draw attention of good engg for its event"


"Good Enggs too busy ...to think/Care for Infy"

Regards
Rajesh Jha

Posted by: Rajesh Jha - 02 Dec, 2009

47:YES I AM AGREE WITH RAJESH. INFY IS TOTALLY FAILED TO DRAW ATTENTION.

 PANKAJ replied to: Rajesh Jha 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

48:go join the siliconindia news bureau, your headings are very apt.. don't waste time in technical issues, your future is bright elsewhere.. Lollz

 rohan replied to: Rajesh Jha 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

49: what has infy ever done to nurture engineers, real engineers...they have an opportunity within their org but obviously its secondary to all the revenues coming from maintenance projects

Posted by: vik - 02 Dec, 2009

50:Why can't we think this statement as

"Infosys is not capable to find an Engineer, for Infosys Engineering Science Prize 2009"

What parameter Infy used to find an Engineer.

 An Engineer replied to: vik 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

51: Do hell with those awards...first go to the talent pool who actually belongs to that technical fraternity who know wats an engineer do and what he can do not for those who just scored 60% and have a little ability to speak english...
how can they find any1 who meets any technical criteria....wake up infosians....this is the time to go for actual indian talents not those muggers and book worms who can learn anything lik a parrot....

Posted by: Bipin - 02 Dec, 2009

52:Good Emotion ! You've really a great attitude.

 S.V.R.S.N. Shashank replied to: Bipin 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

53: Thanx buddy....but I was forced to said so...the ppls who even don knw abt any hell of technology being regularly placed in that company and now they are coming with this crap....it must be change for the betterment of Indian IT world...

 Bipin replied to:  S.V.R.S.N. Shashank 
 post - 03 Dec, 2009

54: Are bhai kitne logon ko pata tha ki aisa koi contest chal reha hai?

Posted by: Sourabh - 02 Dec, 2009

55:seriously ... kissi ko bataya bhi tha in logon ne ...

infi ka internal hoga ... wahan kahan se milenge acche engineer :)

 anuj replied to: Sourabh 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

56: If and all we have a crisis like this, the main reason is the so called MNCs. These days an engineer is not given chance to prove himself while at work. Only deadlines and ROI is important for companies. The onslaught takes its all good color with recession and related manipulated situations by companies itself. When it is hard to support the family, where we can contribute to the Engineering Science?

Posted by: Rejesh - 02 Dec, 2009

57: Infosys is organization which give his 100 % to demoralize IT employees.Few days back they have given different statements against SATYAM employees and this time they are not able to find suitable candidate for this award.


I think hire management of infosys believe an IT worker should be GOD or Super hero.But they should understand that they were also engineer at some point of their career.and at there time luckily no body was there to regulate all this.

Posted by: iwantvarun - 02 Dec, 2009

58: Infy sucks and degrades the Indian knowledge stream

Posted by: Satyam - 02 Dec, 2009

59: Infosys is basically an IT company, which has nothing to do with technology. IT is basically a job, which even pre-university people can do. Infosys has no potential to find out the brains , because the job done by them , mostly donot require the brains. They are groping in dark and shouting out to the intellectual community without any basis or worth. They have no standards ( sigma six is not what i mean here), to set others standards.

Posted by: Jeeva - 02 Dec, 2009

60: This is a big failure of infosys. They want to get rid of their failure by making a statement like "India does not produce good engineers". If this statement is true then what about Pranav Mistry who just created a history?

Posted by: Akki - 02 Dec, 2009

61: This is great a failure of Infosys Science Foundation to find the right engineer they were seeking for in India for the award. They need to do more hard work and research to find the right candidate. Bright and Right engineers will not just come forward for the sake of some award. There has to be a greater cause for them to come forward. Infy has to do more hard work and try again. its their failure to capture the bright one.

Posted by: Raj - 02 Dec, 2009

62: And by the way if they were looking for good engineers for the award only from within Infosys, then I should say it muist be a great irony. Where are any good engineers in Infosys? Infosys only concentrates on some junk banking projects for which they built the code decades ego and since then have just been hiring developers only to give head count to their clients. There is no real work at Infosys. Companies like HCL, Wipro, TCS are much better than Infy. They look to work in specialized fields like embedded dev and wireless, networking dev , aerospace unlike infy.

Posted by: prashanth - 02 Dec, 2009

63:When you dont know the working of Infosys..please dont comment on it.The code that you are talking about Infosys is called Finnacle and is the only product -mind my words-only product that has ever been developed by any Indian IT company including TCS/HCL and Wipro.
Anything else developed is called customised software and Infosys has various departments like -IHLD-insurance and health care.REU-energy companies like BP/Shell -there are in total of 14 deppts and Infy's most clients are in fortune 500.
Nandan Nileknai--was choosen to work for he govt for his competent nature -mind that he is also an enggineer from Infy.
And the prize talked above cant be awarded to people working in Infosys -to be fair.

Hope this will improve your highly ill-equipped knowledge on one of the most repsected Indian companies.

Ashish Kumar,London

 Ashish Kumar replied to: prashanth 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

64: @Ashish: Well Infosys is not the only Indian IT company to develop a banking product. TCS has its own banking product called 'Bancs'.

@Topic: We should all agree that as most of us have stated due to our educational pattern, meeting skillsets for job and money-oriented approach we Indian engineers hardly get an opportunity to excel as an engineer. We do not spend our effort on researching innovative and creative solutions unless we are sitting in a research lab of NASA :)

@Indians: All we need to do is to remember that a single innovation could lead us to be a millionaire (thats what my Indian brain thinks). Thus spend some of our resources on it too. Lets all hope that we would be able nurture such engineers that would take up coveted Awards in engineering at domestic and international arenas.

 Mohamed Hussain replied to:  Ashish Kumar 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

65: No engineer would come forward and disclose the principles of their project, only after that they will be eligible for the award. In software industry all the ideas implemented by the engineers are the property of the company that they work for. Hence how can any engineer explain the concepts of the project to the Infosys foundation?

Posted by: prashanth - 02 Dec, 2009

66: I think jury is failed to find best engineer.

Posted by: Manjunatha - 02 Dec, 2009

67: In India things won't be ready made like in US.If infy looking for readymade they may not get in India.

Posted by: analyst - 02 Dec, 2009

68: This is a joke. If no one is selected by Infy for their prize that does not mean India does not produce good Engineers. The competetion is theirs, conditions are theirs and expectations are theirs so what is the fun in testing the engineering abilities. I suggest Infy not to waste their money for such things and try to project Indians as useless to the world.

Posted by: Anand  - 02 Dec, 2009

69: “Infosys Technologies reportedly having failed to find a worthy candidate for its Infosys Engineering Science Prize 2009”.
This may be a failure of Infosys team headed by Mr.S.D.Shibulal, not that there is no one in India.

On the Engineering category, wasn’t Infy unable to identify one from any of the below teams

HAL,NAL,GAIL,BHEL,HPCL,IOCL,Reliance Group,ECIL,EIL,GAIL,TES, Teams of various budding engineers doing remarkable projects….(these are only few exapmles)

If no one in India from above prestigious Engineering services and other groups/teams has met their criteria, then we need not take Infy so serious. Let them market their “criteria” in a manner that many gets convinced of their skeptical criteria’s.
Probably their scale of measurement is too synthetic.

Posted by: ram - 02 Dec, 2009

70:good one

 Simrat replied to: ram 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

71: If Infy tells india does not have that talent, then they did not do the proper homework. The whole world is amazed with indian talents. People are awsome in india, if not in other fields, in computer field we are no.1
Am sorry for telling this, Infy has taken a wrong decision. Prices are meant to be given to people to do well in their next task. When they have just let down 34 nominess, whats the fun in arranging this? I have no clue.

Posted by: Karthik - 01 Dec, 2009

72:In computer field no 1? You are kidding! Read previous news from sillicon india and you know what is on.

 Matthias replied to: Karthik 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

73:Absolutely right. when ppl like Nandan Nilekani are being given the credit of Cabinatory positions for the projects like Unique identity cards there is no issue in telling that India dont have nay great talents...as said by Karthik prizes are to be given to inspire the ppl rather then frustating by choosing them as nominees...

 Mahesh replied to: Karthik 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

74: There is no irony for not finding a quality engineer in Infosys. No skilled person will stay for long in companies like Infy as they can't afford to pay much. There is some much bureaucracy that they don't let people evolve technically.

My only suggestion to Infy is to stop hiring low-cost under-skilled and start to improve and refine the quality of the developers. Last but not least, they should identify the skilled people and should improve their pay as they grow technically.

PS: Online technical tests is not a worth to test their skills.

Posted by: Naresh - 01 Dec, 2009

75: It is always sickening to read such knee jerk reactions on any issue which comments adversely on the quality of indian professionals ---without really doing any detailed analysis or soul searching . This itself shows what is the calibre of we indians --at least most of us --why shout and pat yourself on your back and claim that Indians are always best in everything under the sun --which is definitely not true at all . In fact , majority of us are just average and mediocre in quality --may be some of us are above average --and only very few are top class and world class in quality . Infosys is looking for and aims to breed such world class quality . But before that try and ask for the criteria ubder which nominations are made and prizes are awarded --and try to understand the whole process in detail before making any comment . Merely saying we are all great all the time is plain stupidity --and also arrogant in a sense.

Posted by: rajvaidya - 01 Dec, 2009

76:@rajvaidya...

that you have said is right.....i must admit....but u have to understand the politics behind the infy strategy....what i understand is brand value addition for their prize and nothing else....just to create a lot of fuzz on the issue....not that they dint find any engineers worthy of it..

 nicky replied to: rajvaidya 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

77: It can be another issue. They are trying to save money if the award consists of money also
RECESSION hai bhai.... lol

Posted by: balli - 01 Dec, 2009

78: if it is true then shame for us....bt i don think that we have lack of talent we hv lot of talent atleast in computers bt there is only lack of encouragement,opportunities n sufficient fund...otherwise we can make every dream true.....

Posted by: Gaurav Agarwal - 01 Dec, 2009

79: Please change view brother I believe Work is God hence all Enginerrs who are working are Qualified for that award.The criteria for their award might be *God only not human beings* and if they require a model they can always create one.

Posted by: Asitabh Paul - 01 Dec, 2009

80: Infosys vision is only IT services , noot even prooduuct development and PR with Government and Media ,hence it coud not identify

Posted by: mukund - 01 Dec, 2009

81: Respected Narayan/Sudha Murthy,

Please award the prize to Madhu Koda for "Engineering" a Rs.4000 crore scam.

Thanks,
Rahul
New York.

Posted by: Rahul - 01 Dec, 2009

82:oye Rahul, chha gaya yaar.. kya candidate dhundha hai.. Kudos

rupesh soni
yangon-myanmar

 rupesh soni  replied to: Rahul 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

83:superb one rahul!

 fiza replied to: Rahul 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

84:great one rahul,u got great sense of humour samir banglore

 samir replied to: Rahul 
 post - 01 Dec, 2009

85:I suppose they want to give it to M. Raju.

 Gods_must_be_crazy replied to: Rahul 
 post - 01 Dec, 2009

86: there r alod of ppl like madhu koda and m raju.

 sunil replied to:  Gods_must_be_crazy 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

87: The contest should be the best among those applied. Else it would be like aiming for something impossible. Now if I open up a contest for humans who can fly without any gadgets, then definitely all will fail :)....

Posted by: Antony  - 01 Dec, 2009

88: Probably ......the exact reason may be POOR talent acquisition skills of INFY......it is hardly possible to say that there is lack of talent in such a competitive country....Infy is one of those companies who work on referrals more(undercover)....what can we do...it is seen in almost all big companies now a days.......
If they are unable to locate talent then they should be ashamed of themselves why did they organized such competition?.......u cannot switch a room heater on a day in hot deserts.........
If they have organized such a talent competition .....before doing that they must have identified some potential for it....like pre market research and all such activities and after that if they say that there is no one eligible then they are admitting their own "lack " of talent of premarket research .........it is logical.....I think before admitting such sensitive comments the higher level people should think what is the after effect

Posted by: dinesh - 01 Dec, 2009

89: Then please handover all these award to Mr. N Murthy:-)

Posted by: Raj - 01 Dec, 2009

90:Sorry he does not qualify age limit is 55 years only :-)

 Gods_must _be_crazy replied to: Raj 
 post - 01 Dec, 2009

91: May infosys would have failed in finding the right Engineer to that award.........


But saying there are no one is eligible....

Posted by: Harini - 01 Dec, 2009

92:It's a shame for the company who pick up the best students(as per the %age of marks) countrywide.

 Sagar replied to: Harini 
 post - 01 Dec, 2009

93: Infy? prize?

Did infy informed all the engineers?

afterall Infy, as a business organization, one among the TOP, is because of indian, smart engineers.

Posted by: Reji - 01 Dec, 2009

94:oye jiyo.....even i dont know

 vinu replied to: Reji 
 post - 24 Dec, 2009

95:u have got to be kidding Reji...do u have any idea about the kinda of ppl( n not engineers who work for infosys)....

 shivansh replied to: Reji 
 post - 01 Dec, 2009

96: I think this is true. Bcoz now a days the engg education is only a degree, not the actual education except the IITs and two NITs. So, this giving indication to improve our Engg education in India.NITA IS THE BEST AMONG ALL THE BEST

Posted by: VIDHAYASAGAR - 01 Dec, 2009

97: The details of the contest did not reach many who could have been a part of it. Not even IITians is not a correct statement. There are many Engineers who have more knowledge and ideas. They are lying somewhere and the right opportunity has not come to them.
Over and above, we should accept to the fact that we need to improve. We have only excelled in the services segment in India. We are yet to achieve that level in the technology front. But this particular event cannot be regarded as the benchmark. We need to improve but...

Posted by: Mohammed Azad A K - 01 Dec, 2009

98: is it shame for us? no it is warning to work hard in education area.

Posted by: ashwin mogarkar - 01 Dec, 2009

99:I won't accept your words, how many people may know about this contest.I know we Indian are all great in IT, so need get certification from poor Infi jury team.

 Ravi replied to: ashwin mogarkar 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

100:Ashwin mogarkar -- Yours is one of the most sensible and cryptic reaction I have found on the issue --unlike most of the plain and stupid self congratulatory non sense which we see here.

 Arvind laksh replied to: ashwin mogarkar 
 post - 01 Dec, 2009

101: If Infosys had publicized their initiative , they surely would have found much more takers. Its really hard to bite that none of the fresh graduates from colleges across the country, not even the IITians managed to bag the prize , that too at a time when our engineers are doing us Indians proud by their contributions world over.

Posted by: Subin Francis - 01 Dec, 2009

102: Myself Naval Gupta working professionally as a Chemical engineer. This country is having much better & reliable skills compared to all developed country but due to Government’s wrong policy & dirty politics peoples even not getting opportunity to prove them & that’s why most of the good engineer & doctors are migrated permanently to USA, UK etc.

Posted by: Naval Kishor Gupta - 01 Dec, 2009

103: India is a nation of talented peoples with poor economic. we can't directly say, Indian engineers are not having the ability or talent to have these awards, they are not having the encouragement or fund to achieve things. This is the true thing. All are giving awards for achievements only not to encourage the ideas and achieve the achievement.

Posted by: Karthikeyan - 01 Dec, 2009

104: Yes, Very true. As you can see even I have come to know just now. And I have no doubt that there are million of engineers who were not aware of the competition what the infy talking about.

Posted by: Vishwajeet - 01 Dec, 2009

105: I dont think so, many people may not know about this contest. we should not give statement pointing the people who didnt attend, better to tell the status, how many attended, how many done well? then there is no point of thinking absentees.
India always have good,brilliant and intelligent Engineers. we cannot decide anything by simple contest or simple reason.

Posted by: Ravi Prasad - 01 Dec, 2009

106:I agree with your comment. This process would not be done properly. This would be decided on the basis of few contestent not all engineers. India has so many talented engineers that whole world are desiring & demanding our enginers in any way. So it is not believable any way.

 sudha asthana replied to: Ravi Prasad 
 post - 01 Dec, 2009

107:I am accepting with him.... first ask them how many members participated and where they given publicity and where they conducted. Just only simple reason u can't decide india don't have don't have good engineer. I am not a engineer student but i believe most of institutes producing quality engineering except some newly started and money making engineering colleges.

 venkat replied to: Ravi Prasad 
 post - 01 Dec, 2009

108: ya i dont think India has the kind of enginners infy is looking for when awarding this. but then i am not an engineer to comment on such things. what do indian enginner's have to say.

Posted by: hamida - 01 Dec, 2009

109:I think this is true. Bcoz now a days the engg education is only a degree, not the actual education except the IITs and two NITs. So, this giving indication to improve our Engg education in India.

 Kaushik replied to: hamida 
 post - 01 Dec, 2009

110: Naval Gupta working professionally as Chemical engineer. This country is having much better & reliable skills compared to all developed country but due to Government’s wrong policy & dirty politics peoples even not getting opportunity to prove them & that’s why most of the good engineer & doctors are migrated permanently to USA, UK etc.

 Naval Kishor Gupta replied to:  Kaushik 
 post - 01 Dec, 2009

111: Guys wake up .......you are talking foolish stuf out here. For your knowledge we Indians are the leading heads in almost all the technology company that is now and we are proud of that and i been a engg i now we indians have more than just to go for this type of competition but the mass people do not know about this things and many would not even mind to go to remote places where still now genious person are there just looking for right opportunity.

 Nil replied to:  Kaushik 
 post - 01 Dec, 2009

112: Well i think its not a talent problem, eventually problem lies in evaluating a talent.They have there own benchmarks which they think are best for evaluation.
When you look on internal working of a company, very few will deny the fact that heroic efforts of one guy saves them all.
secondly deserving guys are pulled down by managers and the bunches of some foxes who are good in politics.
so question arises when you are blindfolded, how can your evaluation be judged as perfect.

 Dharmendra  replied to: Nil 
 post - 01 Dec, 2009

113: It is rightly said that Indians are the leading heads of almost all the Tech. companies. But the point to ponder should be how can we ourselves be equally contributing to the global intelligence image that India has. To do that we should stop commenting and work out things practically.

Imagine where could India reach if atleast there is an intelligent human asset of 10-15% out of 1.1 billion people

 Samir Das  replied to: Nil 
 post - 01 Dec, 2009

114: Cannot believe infy is telling this. A company who hires freshers not in hundreds but in thousands.A company who has made every engineer to aspire for just software career in life and nothing else.so can infy expect it's engineers to think science....

 siya  replied to: Samir Das 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

115: it is not that only 10-15 % indians are talented..it may be that they are lucky enough...the real engineering of india happnes in its villages..still there the so called illiterate ppl are devising various tehcniques which solves their day to day problem..we only look things from the western n english perspective..so we will always get failures..

 peterparker replied to: Samir Das 
 post - 01 Dec, 2009

116: Guys , I think we had enough discu on this. Now let us hold somebody responsible for this pathetic situation.
Who is responsible?
Politicians (as usual)?
Bureaucrats?
Pls fix the blame and pass on.

 wills replied to: Samir Das 
 post - 01 Dec, 2009

117:Do nothing...
Just hit this...
"http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/30/smsone- micro-local-india-news/"

 Parag  replied to: wills 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

118: Its absolutely true that Indian engineers are not good. These guys don't know what quality is.

 Anna  replied to: Parag 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

119: Our engrs are not worth to find any innovations . They are copy cats . SO Infosys and India has lot of fake personalities to dupe the entire world which isnot healthy sign . lets u send these engrs to Germany to get them learnt what is the std of basc engg first .

 manick  replied to: Anna 
 post - 05 Dec, 2009

120: hi dude where the hell are you from? you should be shame on being an indian....

 rahul  replied to: Anna 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009

121: These guys should understand that if they pay employees well, they can get good engineers in their company itself. Why to disclose something really good to someone who is not gonna pay for it

 Prince  replied to: Anna 
 post - 02 Dec, 2009