'MBA graduates led the world into recession'
By
siliconindia news bureau
Washington: In the past 20 years, the Master of Business Administration (MBA) factories created the conditions that helped land the global economy in the current mess, writes Bloomberg columnist Matthew Lynn. He also suggests that the business schools should be shut down.
Business schools legitimized a pseudo-scientific approach, promoted a mechanistic management style and formed a managerial elite more interested in rewards than producing lasting wealth for the economies they operate in.

Richard Fuld, who was CEO of Lehman Brothers Holdings at the time of its collapse, has an MBA from New York University. John Thain, the former CEO of Merrill Lynch, is a graduate of Harvard Business School. Christopher Cox, the former chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, has an MBA from Harvard University.
In Europe, Andy Hornby, CEO of British bank HBOS, is another Harvard Business School product. HBOS had to be bailed out in a merger with Lloyds Banking Group and then both had to be rescued by the U.K. government. Peter Wuffli, who as CEO, presided over the huge losses that took Zurich-based UBS AG to the brink of disaster, studied management at Switzerland's University of St Gallen.
If these business leaders were not able to spot the flaws in the businesses they were running, one has to look into the matter of what business and management schools had been teaching them.
The schools promoted a quasi-scientific approach to business, sermonizing that everything could be nailed down in a textbook, and encouraged students to believe that running a company could be mastered by anyone. The entire private-equity industry is founded on that principle. And also, all the intellectual tools that led us into the financial meltdown were largely invented within academia. Complex models for pricing risk created the market for the options and derivatives contracts that have caused so much trouble in the past year.
But, management in reality is a skill that is acquired through experience, judgment and flair. Billions are about to be wasted relearning a simple fact that should never have been forgotten.
The business schools took some mysterious risk and tried to make it as easy to count as peas in a pod. By doing so, they encouraged a whole generation of young men and women to go into investment banking armed with the belief that they had mastered risk. But the truth turned out to be different.
The author pins the growth of business schools to the situation where the economy contracts and jobless bankers seek to boost their qualifications. The people who steered the global economy onto the rocks in the past year all benefited from the finest management education that money can buy.
However, Lynn admits that it is unfair to assign all blame to business schools. Over the last three decades, taking an MBA has become just another qualification, a hoop to be jumped through on your way to getting a good job on Wall Street, or in London or Zurich's financial centers.
Business schools legitimized a pseudo-scientific approach, promoted a mechanistic management style and formed a managerial elite more interested in rewards than producing lasting wealth for the economies they operate in.
Richard Fuld, who was CEO of Lehman Brothers Holdings at the time of its collapse, has an MBA from New York University. John Thain, the former CEO of Merrill Lynch, is a graduate of Harvard Business School. Christopher Cox, the former chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, has an MBA from Harvard University.
In Europe, Andy Hornby, CEO of British bank HBOS, is another Harvard Business School product. HBOS had to be bailed out in a merger with Lloyds Banking Group and then both had to be rescued by the U.K. government. Peter Wuffli, who as CEO, presided over the huge losses that took Zurich-based UBS AG to the brink of disaster, studied management at Switzerland's University of St Gallen.
If these business leaders were not able to spot the flaws in the businesses they were running, one has to look into the matter of what business and management schools had been teaching them.
The schools promoted a quasi-scientific approach to business, sermonizing that everything could be nailed down in a textbook, and encouraged students to believe that running a company could be mastered by anyone. The entire private-equity industry is founded on that principle. And also, all the intellectual tools that led us into the financial meltdown were largely invented within academia. Complex models for pricing risk created the market for the options and derivatives contracts that have caused so much trouble in the past year.
But, management in reality is a skill that is acquired through experience, judgment and flair. Billions are about to be wasted relearning a simple fact that should never have been forgotten.
The business schools took some mysterious risk and tried to make it as easy to count as peas in a pod. By doing so, they encouraged a whole generation of young men and women to go into investment banking armed with the belief that they had mastered risk. But the truth turned out to be different.
The author pins the growth of business schools to the situation where the economy contracts and jobless bankers seek to boost their qualifications. The people who steered the global economy onto the rocks in the past year all benefited from the finest management education that money can buy.
However, Lynn admits that it is unfair to assign all blame to business schools. Over the last three decades, taking an MBA has become just another qualification, a hoop to be jumped through on your way to getting a good job on Wall Street, or in London or Zurich's financial centers.
Reader's comments(50)
1: If we all take a deeper look at the above
written article, we will realize that the
writer contradicts his own statements.
Here it goes….
According to Bloomberg columnist Matthew Lynn, “Management in reality is a skill that is acquired through experience, judgment and flair.â€
If we agree to this statement then the question arises, whether these above mentioned CEOs (Richard Fuld of Lehman Brothers Holdings, John Thain of Merrill Lynch, Christopher Cox of the Securities and Exchange Commission, Andy Hornby of British bank HBOS, Peter Wuffli of UBS AG) of various financial groups were made CEO directly after graduating from these prestigious institutes? We all know the answer to this question…..
These individuals have slogged day in and out and proved themselves over others time and again to be at this pinnacle. They all have the right experience, judgment and flair for the business.
However, one should understand that in business, at times you are forced to take decisions to stay in floating in the market. These decisions are ‘high risk - high return’ types, which are calculated depending upon the past, present and predicted trends of the market….. And one should never forget that predictions are one amongst the hundred possibilities which can go wrong even after calculated risk.
Did Mikhail Kalashnikov know that his invention (AK-47) would be the biggest curse to the mankind?
Rest is up to you to decide….
Here it goes….
According to Bloomberg columnist Matthew Lynn, “Management in reality is a skill that is acquired through experience, judgment and flair.â€
If we agree to this statement then the question arises, whether these above mentioned CEOs (Richard Fuld of Lehman Brothers Holdings, John Thain of Merrill Lynch, Christopher Cox of the Securities and Exchange Commission, Andy Hornby of British bank HBOS, Peter Wuffli of UBS AG) of various financial groups were made CEO directly after graduating from these prestigious institutes? We all know the answer to this question…..
These individuals have slogged day in and out and proved themselves over others time and again to be at this pinnacle. They all have the right experience, judgment and flair for the business.
However, one should understand that in business, at times you are forced to take decisions to stay in floating in the market. These decisions are ‘high risk - high return’ types, which are calculated depending upon the past, present and predicted trends of the market….. And one should never forget that predictions are one amongst the hundred possibilities which can go wrong even after calculated risk.
Did Mikhail Kalashnikov know that his invention (AK-47) would be the biggest curse to the mankind?
Rest is up to you to decide….
Posted by: Rohan Patil - 30 Mar, 2009
2: I agree with the last part of the article,
which says that B schools promote a robotic
kind of thinking. You can't TEACH a person to
be a good manager..that comes out of practice
(experience) and practice alone..especially
since most management involves managing
people (directly or indirectly). Maybe then
Psych majors will make better managers..
While getting an MBA is definitely a good thing..it has turned into more of a commodity over the past 10 years or so, with B schools churning out MBA's by the hundreds every year. If you look closely, very few B schools actually equip students with real life skills. Most go with a generic approach, blanket curriculum and so called "management fundas". I guess THAT's what led to a largo number of MBA's being part of the recession creators.
While getting an MBA is definitely a good thing..it has turned into more of a commodity over the past 10 years or so, with B schools churning out MBA's by the hundreds every year. If you look closely, very few B schools actually equip students with real life skills. Most go with a generic approach, blanket curriculum and so called "management fundas". I guess THAT's what led to a largo number of MBA's being part of the recession creators.
Posted by: Yadu - 30 Mar, 2009
3: I fully DISAGREE with what is mentioned. I am
also an MBA. MBA teaches how to manage a
business but it does not and can not teach
what to manage. Let me explain with an
example. I was a student of Masters. I was
thrilled with marketing teacher's
explanations and wanted him to lead us a
group of people to start a International
trading company. He just said "I am like a
train driver who knows where is the gradiant,
curve, bridge and station etc. I can pose a
problem and also give a solution, because it
is class room not a market place, running a
business is like piloting a plane. Once it is
off the ground it is the intution and skills
based on the knowledge only can drive safely
till landing. No one can predict what is in
the sky and as and when the problem creeps up
solution has to be found. Every thing is safe
till some thing comes then every thig is
uncertain and risky. The current situation
has similarity to this.
Why did the author praise MBAs when for the last 10 years the economy was boyant. Yes they may have failed now in certain areas.
It is not the just MBAs and their studies, Look at India it is fundamentally strong even now, why?. I feel there is lot to do more than just knowledge, it is also the CULTURE. Indians are much stronger than most of the west in the present condition. It is because Indians live on future hope and on yesterdays money, but west lives on y'days experience and future money.
Why did the author praise MBAs when for the last 10 years the economy was boyant. Yes they may have failed now in certain areas.
It is not the just MBAs and their studies, Look at India it is fundamentally strong even now, why?. I feel there is lot to do more than just knowledge, it is also the CULTURE. Indians are much stronger than most of the west in the present condition. It is because Indians live on future hope and on yesterdays money, but west lives on y'days experience and future money.
Posted by: udaya prakasha - 30 Mar, 2009

4:interesting observation but exactly did you
mean by It is because Indians live on future
hope and on yesterdays money, but west lives
on y'days experience and future money, Udaya
Prakash?
ramdas replied to: udaya prakasha
post - 30 Mar, 2009
post - 30 Mar, 2009
7: its right.I am an MBA oxford, and regret to
say we are well trained in all directions, so
which direction wins is where the economy is
Posted by: faria - 30 Mar, 2009
9: when Ram was young, price-tags were less,
they kept increasing as Ram grew.. when ram
will die, Price-tags will also stop
existing..? this article build similar
foolish hypothesis..
All these MBAs also passed nursery and then primay classes.
All those who faultered didn't had MBA but, they all had primary education.. does this means Primary passed people led the world into recession?
All these MBAs also passed nursery and then primay classes.
All those who faultered didn't had MBA but, they all had primary education.. does this means Primary passed people led the world into recession?
Posted by: Vikrant Ingle - 30 Mar, 2009
10: Why blame the MBA's, They have their
Certificates true, But do all have their
heads over shoulders? Doubtful, & hence
they have Created the pseudo greed &
helped inflate the values of all products
through their unwaranted skills.Hence the
situation now. Today none can realy sell
anything without deflating the premium the
product is carriying. But again, No one wants
to loose out by giving out the real numbers.
Was this situation not created by the
MBA's,& out of their unwaranted marketing
strategies.
Posted by: Hombelaku - 30 Mar, 2009
11: Yes I agree with above....MBA comes after
some existence of the invention and something
after discovery....wihtout that, they sshould
know first how tomanage themselves and later
better to know how to improve their own
skills.......
Posted by: Mnm - 27 Mar, 2009
12: Which idiot wrote this news? Am sure the guy
who wrote this wont be having an MBA
Posted by: arun - 27 Mar, 2009

13:exactly the sort of reaction one expects from
the mba types..
mmat replied to: arun
post - 27 Mar, 2009
post - 27 Mar, 2009
14: As per my point of view u can't blame for
MBA...........At present time everyone doing
MBA because they want to improve their
Managemnt Skills.....but the most important
point is that the whole MBA programme
whatever u gain it's very important....that's
the experience shows that in an
organisation....
Posted by: Abhishek - 27 Mar, 2009
15: Yes i agree with above.. it cannot be
entirely blamed on MBA graduates or rather
say it this way that its not the MBA
graduates but the MBA course. In India anyone
can earn a management degree at about the age
of 25 but the question is, are these young
minds ready to face the real world? They lack
experience and urge to earn big money makes
them feel that earning an MBA is a soul aim
of life but its no fault of theirs. Certain
criteria needs to be set up for these courses
like X years of experience or minimum age
limit.
Posted by: Pawan - 26 Mar, 2009
16: The culprit is not MBA - it's GREED.
Posted by: Frank A Hilario - 26 Mar, 2009

17:i have to agree with you frank
chare replied to: Frank A Hilario
post - 30 Mar, 2009
post - 30 Mar, 2009
18: “If you don’t know what you are
looking for,you’ll never know when you
find it†Manred Siebler.......
Leadership is all about a) Focus to acheive
b)Mobilize to impact c) Sustain momentum and
d)Passion for excellence....... I dont think
that MBA's teach you all these..... One needs
a mix of educational background to understand
this and years of field experience...... I
happen to be a SENIOR Strategist.... So if u
want to experience realities in different
aspects of different industries then please
team up with me and we could write white
papers for these professionals to understand
the new world.......
Contact me at rolando@saudi.net.sa
Contact me at rolando@saudi.net.sa
Posted by: Rolando - 26 Mar, 2009
19: Not surprising! - India is even worse as even
drivers opt for a MBA. Leadership skills are
not available off the shelf! - anyway, if
everybody has an MBA it's losing its
exclusivity: so what's next (invent another
attractive useless paper)...
Posted by: Manfred Siebler - 26 Mar, 2009

20:In India even drivers are talented and
capable enough to do MBA.
Where are you from Manfred? how many people do MBA in your country?
Where are you from Manfred? how many people do MBA in your country?
Vikrant replied to: Manfred Siebler
post - 30 Mar, 2009
post - 30 Mar, 2009

21:Manfred
You should be an MBA grad that's y he is making such loose statements. No one talks about any country in particular except you.
So please be aware of what you are saying and commenting on.
your comment - Drivers opt for an MBA
i don't thik there's anything wrong in it and if you feel so , who cares.
I honestly second Orlando's comments -
India is a country that we Europeans have to learn from its experience.....Dont underestimate -
You should be an MBA grad that's y he is making such loose statements. No one talks about any country in particular except you.
So please be aware of what you are saying and commenting on.
your comment - Drivers opt for an MBA
i don't thik there's anything wrong in it and if you feel so , who cares.
I honestly second Orlando's comments -
India is a country that we Europeans have to learn from its experience.....Dont underestimate -
sam Marg replied to: Manfred Siebler
post - 26 Mar, 2009
post - 26 Mar, 2009

22:Manfred
Refrain your self from making unreasonable comments....... With due respects to you..... India is a country that we Europeans have to learn from its experience.....
Dont underestimate.......
Refrain your self from making unreasonable comments....... With due respects to you..... India is a country that we Europeans have to learn from its experience.....
Dont underestimate.......
Rolando replied to: Manfred Siebler
post - 26 Mar, 2009
post - 26 Mar, 2009

23:Manfred Siebler said: 'even drivers opt for a
MBA'
Appears that you believe drivers are not talented. One must understand it’s not only talent but other factors (like money, environment, guidance and a perfect combination of such factors) which help people reach heights of success. It’s not very hard to find talented people running a taxi in a poor country like India due to lack of resources. Your example is poor and if I were a driver I will wish you get well soon.
Appears that you believe drivers are not talented. One must understand it’s not only talent but other factors (like money, environment, guidance and a perfect combination of such factors) which help people reach heights of success. It’s not very hard to find talented people running a taxi in a poor country like India due to lack of resources. Your example is poor and if I were a driver I will wish you get well soon.
Manu replied to: Manfred Siebler
post - 26 Mar, 2009
post - 26 Mar, 2009
24: Real estate business and easy financing in
auto and housing is responsible for this
recession for which private banks are
responsible who hired these guys who had no
working experience but manupulated the
returns for getting finance from these banks
while achieving the targets. Now every third
person is real estate agent because of easy
money resulting in more deals.
Posted by: Ashok Aggarwal - 26 Mar, 2009
25: Please don't denigrate all MBA's most of whom
use common akkal to enhance their objective
skill sets and know that "hedging" means to
REDUCE risk, not INCREASE it.
The major banks and Wall Street firms have typically hired MBA's from the Ivy League schools, and Stanford, Wharton and MIT almost exclusively. It is these MBAs that have apparently lost their way and engaged in the most absurd techniques which violate the fundamentals of economics and finance. We call these "Akkal ka dushman" in Jabalpur where I come from:-))
For example, sub-prime loans, no down payment loans, 100% plus loans, interest only loans - all of which assume a constantly rising real estate market, when any MBA with more than half a brain should know that we have BUSINESS CYCLES in the USA. The only question is whether the cycle is going to be the traditional three to four years or the more recent seven to eight years.
There are almost 9,459 banks in the USA with assets of at least $100 million, and only a small handful who screwed up, big time, and President Obama and his teleprompter are bailing them out with taxpayer money, which any MBA with common sense would know is rewarding stupidity, because over 9,000 of our banks did not engage in stupid practices and do not need to be bailed out.
Just think about it, banking is the SIMPLEST business to run of ANY business. You accept deposits and pay a lower interest than what you can invest that money for. You lend money and charge a higher interest. You cash checks, which is basically book-keeping. In between you go to lunch and play golf. Khalas, as we say in Mumbai. No bank that uses common sense as part of its philosophy should EVER get into financial trouble.
Now, from these eminently sensible comments I'm sure you can tell that I belong to the common sense variety of regional MBAs who live in the real world, not the snobbish Ivy League type who have now put all of us in the crapper:-))
And you saw Banking-101 reduced to a few pithy sentences:-))
The major banks and Wall Street firms have typically hired MBA's from the Ivy League schools, and Stanford, Wharton and MIT almost exclusively. It is these MBAs that have apparently lost their way and engaged in the most absurd techniques which violate the fundamentals of economics and finance. We call these "Akkal ka dushman" in Jabalpur where I come from:-))
For example, sub-prime loans, no down payment loans, 100% plus loans, interest only loans - all of which assume a constantly rising real estate market, when any MBA with more than half a brain should know that we have BUSINESS CYCLES in the USA. The only question is whether the cycle is going to be the traditional three to four years or the more recent seven to eight years.
There are almost 9,459 banks in the USA with assets of at least $100 million, and only a small handful who screwed up, big time, and President Obama and his teleprompter are bailing them out with taxpayer money, which any MBA with common sense would know is rewarding stupidity, because over 9,000 of our banks did not engage in stupid practices and do not need to be bailed out.
Just think about it, banking is the SIMPLEST business to run of ANY business. You accept deposits and pay a lower interest than what you can invest that money for. You lend money and charge a higher interest. You cash checks, which is basically book-keeping. In between you go to lunch and play golf. Khalas, as we say in Mumbai. No bank that uses common sense as part of its philosophy should EVER get into financial trouble.
Now, from these eminently sensible comments I'm sure you can tell that I belong to the common sense variety of regional MBAs who live in the real world, not the snobbish Ivy League type who have now put all of us in the crapper:-))
And you saw Banking-101 reduced to a few pithy sentences:-))
Posted by: Mario from Jabalpur - 26 Mar, 2009

26:Very well said Mario. Someone has to be
blamed. Two people who are at the power
centers - politicians & Finance
guys(MBA,CA,ACS,etc). Can't blame politicians
alone because a politician cannot plunder
& cheat alone. He is backed by IAS, IRS,
lawyers, accountants,auditors, etc. Esp in
india where majority of the politicians are
uneducated. Even an educated politician
cannot handle accounting or
book-keeping/cooking alone. They only want to
know "Money? How much? where from? How to
& how safe? Can't blame them. Greed if
prevalent everywhere and everyone is prone to
it. But the MBA,CAs,ACSs,etc are trained with
the know-how & the know-why for finance
& law. Its impossible for black-money or
hawala or any such system to exist without
these fellas. They are either the source or
facilitators and politicians and beaurocrats
are the medium or vice-versa(beaurocrats
& politicians act as the source and the
like). But these guys are at the helm of
pyramid. So which one to blame. Recently
World Bank applauded RBI's regulations &
efforts as the reason for India current
status & growth during such period. True
Dr.Manmohan Singh also had many a thing to do
with it, especially the power sector. But
policy makers(people at the top of the
pyramid) have a huge information advantage
which they use to make/drain money. Even in
this information age, this is still possible.
One good example is the recent Bernard
Madeoff's Ponzi scam at the very center of
Wall Street,USA. Blame whomever you want, do
the people know their finance and economics.
We don't even know the economics and
financials of our everyday activities. Till
we grow in this area(financial education and
awareness about economics), anybody &
anything who comes by tomorrow can cheat let
alone politicians/MBAs/auditors/Laywers.
Veera replied to: Mario from Jabalpur
post - 30 Mar, 2009
post - 30 Mar, 2009
27: This is news and at the same time it is the
old mans song : for some it might be bad news
- for the many it might at least declare the
quality level of processes going around this
globe
Posted by: sace - 26 Mar, 2009
33: Good question- why blame MBA guys. I dont
think that is very true in its entirety.
Although I agree that MBAs basically learn everything , gobble it up and what they learn usually has no significance to what they do. Tell me which education ever made you learn something on the job. Anyway , But entirely blaming MBAs is foolish. The Education is no question a farce, but MBAs and recession are not connected .
The main reason is Greed and the man made recession and bailout plans. Welcome to the new world order! You will see a lot of new things. Brace for disasters you never thought of.
Although I agree that MBAs basically learn everything , gobble it up and what they learn usually has no significance to what they do. Tell me which education ever made you learn something on the job. Anyway , But entirely blaming MBAs is foolish. The Education is no question a farce, but MBAs and recession are not connected .
The main reason is Greed and the man made recession and bailout plans. Welcome to the new world order! You will see a lot of new things. Brace for disasters you never thought of.
Posted by: F up - 26 Mar, 2009
34: Am sure Don is having an MBA as his boss or
he didnt pass his masters
Posted by: Badsha - 26 Mar, 2009
37: This is so very true. MBA Graduates do not
have the necessary knowledge nor skills to
perform in the capacity in which they have
been hired. Giving top jobs to MBA graduates
is like accepting High School Graduates as
Managers. The MBA schools do not teach real
world management. They only present a series
of case studies. In addition, the schools
seem to base their sucess on the amount of
money graduates get, not on how the graduates
are performing on the job. This is a huge
mistake.
Now that the world is in such deep trouble, maybe business will understand that having an MBA is not the cure all it once was thought to be. After graduation, every MBA should serve two years at low level positions to get to understand the company and its service/product. A two year stint would also give the MBA a good grounding in the corporate culture.
We also need to stop paying these MBA's so much money up front and let them earn their way by showing pre-determined levels of proficiencies. If they can not demostrate good and sound business judements, then they need to hit the street before they can do too much damage.
Now that the world is in such deep trouble, maybe business will understand that having an MBA is not the cure all it once was thought to be. After graduation, every MBA should serve two years at low level positions to get to understand the company and its service/product. A two year stint would also give the MBA a good grounding in the corporate culture.
We also need to stop paying these MBA's so much money up front and let them earn their way by showing pre-determined levels of proficiencies. If they can not demostrate good and sound business judements, then they need to hit the street before they can do too much damage.
Posted by: Don - 26 Mar, 2009
38: Why MBA's only. When any rocket fails or any
space shuttle met with any accident should
the BE Colleges be closed. If yes then NASA
needs to closed for the death of Sunita
Williams.
Posted by: sudhi - 26 Mar, 2009

39:hey sunita williams is still alive it's
kalpana chawla who died.....but your point is
well taken....
nitesh replied to: sudhi
post - 26 Mar, 2009
post - 26 Mar, 2009
40: Its not just MBA grads but the greed of the
top level management guys that led to this
situation.
Posted by: Ashwin - 26 Mar, 2009

42: I dont understand Why MBA students should
bare all these F ups.... If MBA students
drive this then all Engineers and SW.. Dr.
all other people are brainless.. and only MBA
guys takes this situation.. Utter
Nonsense..........
Because of MBA guys .. atleast the recession took a level to stand.. Else all these people who comments on MBAs will be having a Plate in their hands for BEGGING...
I know what Im writing here is rude..
But why such SENSELESS POSTs are accepted in the social sites...
Because of MBA guys .. atleast the recession took a level to stand.. Else all these people who comments on MBAs will be having a Plate in their hands for BEGGING...
I know what Im writing here is rude..
But why such SENSELESS POSTs are accepted in the social sites...
Parthasarathi replied to: archana
post - 26 Mar, 2009
post - 26 Mar, 2009
43: Management institutes have one aim, make
money. And to get admission there, you need
to have NRI parents. And still these MBAs led
us to down turn. GREAT
Posted by: Gagan - 26 Mar, 2009

44:What is this,why find a scape goat?Recession
is a cyclic process which resurfaces after a
period of 10 or 20 years and it has been
happenning in modern history during last two
centuries.When a person joins an
organisation,at that time he is an MBA,and
goes to the top only after his performance.It
is corruption that may have led to this
situation and not a university degree.And let
us concentrate our energy more on some
meaningful work rather than spending on this
topic.
Gautam replied to: Gagan
post - 26 Mar, 2009
post - 26 Mar, 2009

45: BTW. This recession is not a cyclical one,
but a structural change... This article may
be partially true where getting an MBA from
Harvard or top school gives a manager
overconfidence and the manager thinks that
what s/he doing is correct...
Shashank Agrawal replied to: Gautam
post - 26 Mar, 2009
post - 26 Mar, 2009

46: thanks for the input.
Gautam replied to: Shashank Agrawal
post - 27 Mar, 2009
post - 27 Mar, 2009

47: MBA like any other discipline is knowledge
from theory and experience documented over
centuries. In MBA you are provided with
theories,tools and techniques that worked in
the past to analyze situations from multiple
perpective and take a decision taht is
appropriate. One can generally say that if
one goes to driving school you learn various
aspects involved with driving and you are
told how to handle different situations.While
the driver training does not substitute the
real driving experience, you can't say that
you became bad driver because of training or
that you let people drive the cars on the
roads without any training (if not testing).
Bankruptcies haven not happened only after
invention of Business schools, not all the
businesses run by MBAs have gone bankrupt.
Having goone through an MBA from a very good school,being a manager for long time in India and living in US currently I can only say that it is the greed of share holders that puts the pressure on CEOs and those who don't have the guts to withstand the pressure yield and take short term decisions.
Don't blame business schools for what they impart.Blame those CEOs as individulas with out spine being unable to withstand share holder pressures from taking right decisions.
Having goone through an MBA from a very good school,being a manager for long time in India and living in US currently I can only say that it is the greed of share holders that puts the pressure on CEOs and those who don't have the guts to withstand the pressure yield and take short term decisions.
Don't blame business schools for what they impart.Blame those CEOs as individulas with out spine being unable to withstand share holder pressures from taking right decisions.
Vivek replied to: Gautam
post - 29 Mar, 2009
post - 29 Mar, 2009

48:well said Gautham. You have used the term
Stake Holder. I appreciate that. The CEO of a
company is liable to secure the trust of
stake holders and he should pave the path
towards that. He must make all his team to
work towards this objective.
For this he must have leadership qualities, that every one accept with this. Leadership qualities do not come with MBA, that is sure. MBA is just like a certificate that, we have mastered with some sort of skills. If we dont have the skills, how we can master them?
so we should not blame MBAs at any point. If we have to blame then blame those people who donot have basic skills required for any business man.
Now a days we are finding people with no vision, ethics, and individuality, learning MBA. So, whats use in that Learning MBA with out these traits?
Here is a suggestion from me, to those who ever want to do MBA,
First get the clear vision of your future, and set the goal.
Second, estimate the risks associated with your way in reaching the set goal and design the remedies for them.
third, develop ethics inside you.
fourth, Learn how to respect the people and nature and this universe, this develops your personality, and make other people respect you.
Finally, be little bit selfih, not at the cost of doing harm to others.
If you believ that you have these qualities then opt for MBA.
Finally, I want to conclude that, this is not the Fault of MBA degree, it is entirely the fault of people with out the above mentioned skills. After all MBA help us to master these skills and teach us how to use them in our respective business.
That is up to the person, how to use his skill set.
For this he must have leadership qualities, that every one accept with this. Leadership qualities do not come with MBA, that is sure. MBA is just like a certificate that, we have mastered with some sort of skills. If we dont have the skills, how we can master them?
so we should not blame MBAs at any point. If we have to blame then blame those people who donot have basic skills required for any business man.
Now a days we are finding people with no vision, ethics, and individuality, learning MBA. So, whats use in that Learning MBA with out these traits?
Here is a suggestion from me, to those who ever want to do MBA,
First get the clear vision of your future, and set the goal.
Second, estimate the risks associated with your way in reaching the set goal and design the remedies for them.
third, develop ethics inside you.
fourth, Learn how to respect the people and nature and this universe, this develops your personality, and make other people respect you.
Finally, be little bit selfih, not at the cost of doing harm to others.
If you believ that you have these qualities then opt for MBA.
Finally, I want to conclude that, this is not the Fault of MBA degree, it is entirely the fault of people with out the above mentioned skills. After all MBA help us to master these skills and teach us how to use them in our respective business.
That is up to the person, how to use his skill set.
ram replied to: Vivek
post - 31 Mar, 2009
post - 31 Mar, 2009

49: man,,u spurted out the right
information,,,,dude
cheers,,,,,,
iam in the same situation dude,,,,,,,,just in the MBA,,,,but no goals,,,,,man,,that is so sick feling,,,,iam doing injustice,,,to anothr guy,,,who deserves,,this place,,,,but now that i have realised i will make use of my oppurtunity,,,thanks man,,
cheers
cheers,,,,,,
iam in the same situation dude,,,,,,,,just in the MBA,,,,but no goals,,,,,man,,that is so sick feling,,,,iam doing injustice,,,to anothr guy,,,who deserves,,this place,,,,but now that i have realised i will make use of my oppurtunity,,,thanks man,,
cheers
lakshman replied to: ram
post - 06 Jun, 2009
post - 06 Jun, 2009
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