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Is Murthy accountable for BIAL faulty design?
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Bangalore: The Joint House Committee (JHC) enquiring the construction of the Bengaluru International Airport (BIA) summoned Infosys Chief Mentor N R Narayana Murthy, MP Rajeev Chandrashekar, bureaucrats V P Baligar, K Jairaj and other officials for "faulty" design and construction. It has also advised to blacklist infrastructure majors L&T, Siemens and Unique Zurich Airport for at least five years for "poor quality of workmanship" at BIA.
The report, submitted to the government by JHC Chairman D Hemachandra Sagar, was tabled in the legislature on Monday. It says that decisions at each stage - from project approval to construction of BIA - did not lead to the construction of an airport of international standards. It has recommended 'appropriate action' against officers responsible for the present state of affairs at BIA, reports Economic Times.
JHC said that Murthy and Chandrashekar have been indicted on two counts. Firstly, both were among the first directors when Bangalore International Airport (BIAL) was incorporated on January 5, 2001. Secondly, they participated in the first board meeting of BIAL, on March 21, 2001, which appointed IAS officer K Jairaj as Managing Director.
Murthy refused to comment on the issue, but Chandrashekhar defended himself and said, "I quit as a BIAL director in 2003, before the government brought in the private participant. I have consistently criticized the monopoly status of the airport. The private stakeholder could exit the project in two years with a windfall profit, leaving no competition on the ground, with the closure of HAL airport, and making the new airport facility more expensive for the common man. So, in a way, I agree with the recommendations that somebody should be accountable for what has happened."
Describing the terminal building as an 'industrial shed', the committee has expressed serious concern over the absence of a structure depicting the culture and glory of Karnataka. JHC has also asked the five directors of BIAL, nominated by the central and Karnataka governments, to safeguard the interests of the state. "There is an urgent need to put in the whole weight of directors of both the governments to get better and adequate amenities on a par with any other international airport. The directors should ensure that debt does not become a noose around the neck of the government as the onus of the mounting debts of the company falls on the shoulders of governments," said the committee.
The recommendations of the committee may bring cheer to people fighting for reopening of the HAL airport. The committee has asked both governments to consider reopening the old facility for healthy competition. It has also suggested that BIAL should be headed by an Indian who can understand local aspirations and requirements. The JHC has considered the observation made by a parliamentary standing committee which noted there was "a complete lack of transparency" in awarding engineering, procurement and construction contracts by BIAL.
The report, submitted to the government by JHC Chairman D Hemachandra Sagar, was tabled in the legislature on Monday. It says that decisions at each stage - from project approval to construction of BIA - did not lead to the construction of an airport of international standards. It has recommended 'appropriate action' against officers responsible for the present state of affairs at BIA, reports Economic Times.
JHC said that Murthy and Chandrashekar have been indicted on two counts. Firstly, both were among the first directors when Bangalore International Airport (BIAL) was incorporated on January 5, 2001. Secondly, they participated in the first board meeting of BIAL, on March 21, 2001, which appointed IAS officer K Jairaj as Managing Director.
Murthy refused to comment on the issue, but Chandrashekhar defended himself and said, "I quit as a BIAL director in 2003, before the government brought in the private participant. I have consistently criticized the monopoly status of the airport. The private stakeholder could exit the project in two years with a windfall profit, leaving no competition on the ground, with the closure of HAL airport, and making the new airport facility more expensive for the common man. So, in a way, I agree with the recommendations that somebody should be accountable for what has happened."
Describing the terminal building as an 'industrial shed', the committee has expressed serious concern over the absence of a structure depicting the culture and glory of Karnataka. JHC has also asked the five directors of BIAL, nominated by the central and Karnataka governments, to safeguard the interests of the state. "There is an urgent need to put in the whole weight of directors of both the governments to get better and adequate amenities on a par with any other international airport. The directors should ensure that debt does not become a noose around the neck of the government as the onus of the mounting debts of the company falls on the shoulders of governments," said the committee.
The recommendations of the committee may bring cheer to people fighting for reopening of the HAL airport. The committee has asked both governments to consider reopening the old facility for healthy competition. It has also suggested that BIAL should be headed by an Indian who can understand local aspirations and requirements. The JHC has considered the observation made by a parliamentary standing committee which noted there was "a complete lack of transparency" in awarding engineering, procurement and construction contracts by BIAL.
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9: This is all a crap .I am one of the person
who has worked closely with BAIL.There are
some problems ,but not major ones .Which is
there with ANy Major Airport in the world.
Be it Kansai Airport in Japan.Let me tell you this is all JUST Politics,Playings it cards.IT is sad to know that people with the stature of Mr Murthy is being called for .
People whos pockets were not filled at that time are making noise now .Stop it .This is where We are taking India.
Where were these guys when construction was going on .No one objected at tht time .Where the those experts who are raising the questions now
Grow Up Indian people are not fools .....
Be it Kansai Airport in Japan.Let me tell you this is all JUST Politics,Playings it cards.IT is sad to know that people with the stature of Mr Murthy is being called for .
People whos pockets were not filled at that time are making noise now .Stop it .This is where We are taking India.
Where were these guys when construction was going on .No one objected at tht time .Where the those experts who are raising the questions now
Grow Up Indian people are not fools .....
Posted by: ajay - 26 Dec, 2009
10:In which airport in the world you see the
states culture... Moreover you want
International standards and then culture as
well... Come on guys... The city is growing
.... rapidly... You want to keep everything
in the city... THINK AGAIN... The members of
the reviewing committee, Mr.Murthy might be
of your dad's age... Respect ppl before
talking about someone...
Ram.V replied to: ajay
post - 27 Dec, 2009
post - 27 Dec, 2009
11: Narayana Moorthy is 'GURU' of indian IT and
he is designer of Bangalore future. Nobody is
not suppose to comments his efforts for BIAl.
I travelled 2 times, its good as other
international airport.
Posted by: I love Bangalore - 26 Dec, 2009
12: I would like to comment only this that what
the goverment was doing when the proposal was
made by the company regarding the
construction of airport. The government
should have looked into the process much
before rather than wasting time and money on
the problem which have appeared now after
construction.
Posted by: vikas - 24 Dec, 2009
13: Poor Design and Not attractive
Posted by: Manoj Kumarr P - 23 Dec, 2009
14: I am not sure he was a qualified Chartered
Accountant at Bangalore Airport. Remember
Work is God n Health is Wealth
Posted by: Gods must be crazy - 23 Dec, 2009
15:He might have acquired knlowledge of
Designing (Website Design) too. Merry X mas n
Happy New Year. Remember Work is God n Health
is Wealth
Gods must be crazy replied to: Gods must be crazy
post - 27 Dec, 2009
post - 27 Dec, 2009
16:My Personal opinion:
1. Have travelled only once to New Bangalore Int Airport. But felt that it is just an enlargement of old airport. So, I feel it is NOT of int. std.
2. Imagine the time when Mr Murthy as Head of Infy. Mr Murthy will leave no stone unturned to make it to the standard required for its growth. Was that commitment excersied in this assingment?
1. Have travelled only once to New Bangalore Int Airport. But felt that it is just an enlargement of old airport. So, I feel it is NOT of int. std.
2. Imagine the time when Mr Murthy as Head of Infy. Mr Murthy will leave no stone unturned to make it to the standard required for its growth. Was that commitment excersied in this assingment?
Indian replied to: Gods must be crazy
post - 23 Dec, 2009
post - 23 Dec, 2009
17:Kar di na f-*-*-*ing techie waali
baat...bangalore is full of such f-*-*-*ing
techies whose only ambition is to go to
US...when they come here...we
bankers/consultants kick their bums :)
Jadugar Pasha replied to: Gods must be crazy
post - 23 Dec, 2009
post - 23 Dec, 2009
18: This drama is created only by our corrupt
politicians because they are most looser,
they missed out the chance of multiplying
there Swiss bank balance and missed out to
multiple there relatives business chance,
most of the people who are making noise is
either belongs to corrupt politicians or
there relatives and friend, we should be
happy because inspite of EX PM (Devegowda)
and family and congress gunda and corrupt
politicians (DKS) etc we could see world
class International Airport in short time due
to effort of honest, proud, Karnataka
Diamond, Mr Narayan Murthy, I salute to you
Sir, Being a true Indian and proud
Bengalurian I support you to do more and more
social works like this and not to stop your
service because of this, If our politicians
did not change there attitude the people of
Karnataka will loose very honest and true
person like Mr Narayana murthy, I had been
to More than 10 International airports and
Resident of >10 Years out side India, Our
Bengalure Airport is much comparable to any
International Airport.
Jai Karnataka
Jai Karnataka
Posted by: Sathyanarayana R - 23 Dec, 2009
19:First you compare the quality of
announcements in Hyderabad,mumbai with
Bangalore and talk.
shashank.ks replied to: Sathyanarayana R
post - 23 Dec, 2009
post - 23 Dec, 2009
20: Murthy has done wonders for Indian IT and
Bangalore in particular. Having said that it
desen't mean that everything he touches will
turn to gold. He should not have got the
'Airport-Designer' in the first place, his
talent is in IT, not construction. - Nisha
(iITPRO.NET, Indian IT Professionals Network)
Posted by: Nisha - 23 Dec, 2009
21: I am an Bangalorean & hold NRI status. I
have been visiting Bangalore since we did NOT
have direct flight to any of the near
cuntries. The people involved in bringing
such a international standard air port to
Bangalore sholuld be appreciated. I agree
with the guys who commented on the currupt
politicians/officers who could NOT make Xtra
money out of this air port project. I wish we
Indians be proud of what we are having
today.... grow up....
Posted by: Venkatesh Prasad, True Indian - 22 Dec, 2009
22:I agree to what Venkatesh said, The airport
is noway less to any of the international
airports, and it is one of best international
airport in the country. This airport reflects
modern India.
claude replied to: Venkatesh Prasad, True Indian
post - 24 Dec, 2009
post - 24 Dec, 2009
23: Let the law of and take its course, truth
will come out...
Posted by: Mehfoos - 22 Dec, 2009
24: I visited BIAL 5times since after opening
it.There are not even available common needs
like ""DRINKING WATER & TELEPHONE"".
Posted by: Santosh.Thikkam - 22 Dec, 2009
25:I think you travelled in a hurry time coz
there are sufficient drinking water and
telephone boots available now dont say that
it should be available at every where you go
dude if you visit next time to the airport
please observer carefully.don make false
statements.
mahesh replied to: Santosh.Thikkam
post - 24 Dec, 2009
post - 24 Dec, 2009
26:I am not touching the basic issues under
criticism. But, I disagree with Mr.Santhosh
Thikkam, comments posted on 22nd Dec'09.
During past 6 months time, I travelled a few
times In/Out from Bangalore airport, both
domestic and internationa terminals. Both
"Free drinking water facilities" and
"telephone booths of a private operator" do
exist in those terminals.
Anil Kumar replied to: Santosh.Thikkam
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
27: I have travelled across the world and umpteen
number of times through BIAL. I see alomost
no difference when you compare it with any
othe International airports - be it Zurich,
Heathrow or Reagan. BIAL is very well
designed and managed. This is certainly a
ploy, becuase such big project did not make
many political Babu's wallet swell. Look at
the following data and judge for yourself:
Passenger traffic (Jan – Dec 2009): 9.3 million
* Cargo handled (Jan – Dec 2009): 161896 tons
* Domestic destinations: 30
* International destinations: 18
* Current daily Air Traffic Movements (ATM’s): 280
* Flight punctuality of over 85 percent
* Availability of key airport resources at BIA averaged
99 percent
* Baggage delivery: 6 minutes for the arrival of the first baggage on the belt
* Domestic passenger average wait time at check in: 2.5 minutes
* International passenger average wait time at check in: 4 minutes
* Passenger traffic rose from 727186 in January to an estimated 867718 in December
Passenger traffic (Jan – Dec 2009): 9.3 million
* Cargo handled (Jan – Dec 2009): 161896 tons
* Domestic destinations: 30
* International destinations: 18
* Current daily Air Traffic Movements (ATM’s): 280
* Flight punctuality of over 85 percent
* Availability of key airport resources at BIA averaged
99 percent
* Baggage delivery: 6 minutes for the arrival of the first baggage on the belt
* Domestic passenger average wait time at check in: 2.5 minutes
* International passenger average wait time at check in: 4 minutes
* Passenger traffic rose from 727186 in January to an estimated 867718 in December
Posted by: Suresh - 22 Dec, 2009
28: The fault lies to who, has entrusted such
busy business magnate and more over what
expertise has he got in the entrusted field?
He may have risen with a fire in his belly
which draws dedication in to consideration of
all pros and cons possible before venturing
into his own related field. One cannot be
master of all. Who made him to play on others
cost, be penalised and not narayanamurthy.
However Narayanamurthy is
accountable and responsible for the folly
since he accepted the role entrusted.
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29: I agree with the coments of Mr Anil kumar
& Mr Rama Mohana Rao Anne. I am proud of
our Blore Air Port & the infra structure
doveloment they are impleting on a faster
phase. Even with the presence of our grate
political leaders like Mr DEVEGOWDA &
family we are able to have Air port like
BIAL.
Posted by: VIJAYAKUMAR - 22 Dec, 2009
30: Hi to all,
First and foremost i would like to say that who ever say the design of BIAL is faulty has to visit zuric switzerland, it is the same design which is followed here and when people around world can say zurich is one of the best designed airports in the world, why not bangalore, because the corrupt politicians here have not got their handsfull and moreover it is a private enterprise they will not get the money they want to get their house decorated, i totally DISAGREE with that nonsense report where only 8 persons have been forced to sign out of the 21 members in the panel. Existing MLA's do not even have the right to even stand nest to Mr. NRN, he has added bangalore in the world map and they are blaming him, how stupid on these politicians, just because they dont have other better work to do, not they turn their focus to something big.
One thing i would like to tell our readers is that BIAL is a wonderful airport with all international standards, and recently they had got a rating of 4.17 out of 5 for international airport ratings, and these politicians say that BIAL is a faulty design. Thanks for reading
First and foremost i would like to say that who ever say the design of BIAL is faulty has to visit zuric switzerland, it is the same design which is followed here and when people around world can say zurich is one of the best designed airports in the world, why not bangalore, because the corrupt politicians here have not got their handsfull and moreover it is a private enterprise they will not get the money they want to get their house decorated, i totally DISAGREE with that nonsense report where only 8 persons have been forced to sign out of the 21 members in the panel. Existing MLA's do not even have the right to even stand nest to Mr. NRN, he has added bangalore in the world map and they are blaming him, how stupid on these politicians, just because they dont have other better work to do, not they turn their focus to something big.
One thing i would like to tell our readers is that BIAL is a wonderful airport with all international standards, and recently they had got a rating of 4.17 out of 5 for international airport ratings, and these politicians say that BIAL is a faulty design. Thanks for reading
Posted by: anil kumar - 22 Dec, 2009
31:Very good,I accept your remarks 100%.
sreekumar replied to: anil kumar
post - 26 Dec, 2009
post - 26 Dec, 2009
32:It will be a surprise when you go thru' such
news. Dirty people do not realise the
consequencies and even if they are sued for
damaging reputation of Kingpins like
Krishnamurthy or they had already done their
job. I doubt if media comes with a bang on
JHC.
Dev Kiran replied to: anil kumar
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
33: I now live in Sydney Australia ,it is a big
city and to reach the International airport
if and when I need to visit India ,the suburb
that I lived in Merrylands(is western suburb
most indians do live in western suburbs) if I
take a cab it will be atleast 40-50
minutes(depends on traffic) and if I take
local trian still same time ...
I have lived in Pittsburgh USA same story ,Pittsburgh has tunnels all around it ,to come out you have to pass through the tunnels and it will take 40-45 minutes ..
New York JFK/New Jersey airport same story
About user taxes ,very high at sydney and all major international airports have raised taxes ..
I have studied in Tasmania(Australia) ,its capital is Hobart ,again from heart of city to airport it takes 40-45 minutes.
I do not know what the fuss is about BIAL Airport ,First IT professionals be reasonable ,just because you live in Banagalore for job ,and want to go back to visit your family in chennai /Hyderabad you need to take a flight and you complain it takes time to reach Airport ,then petition State govt to provide high speed metro service to airport quickly ...
I do not understand compalining about the airport ,how can a modern airport that is future proof built right inside the Bangalaore city no way how will they get the land ..only way is it has built in the city outskirts
Also the committe criticizes that the airport looks like a industrial warehouse rather than symbolising karanataka state we are not building it as a tourist monument ...
Even new Hyderabad international airport is also outskirts of the city .
I do not understand why indians complain about airport cahrges ,but they do not raise a single voice if they are taxed at Changhai airport(Singapore),Sydney or Kualalumpur .
Already the airport charges in India are the lowest find out all airport charges and comapre
Be happy that both bangalore and Hyderabad have got land avaialble to build modern and extensible airports on city outskirts think about Mumbai where getting land as big as Hyderabad /Bangalore is not that easy
So stop compaining and be proud what you have got now and think about making it better ...
may be concentrate on getting more tourists may be do a good ad and ask karanatak/Ap state governments to open tourist office in Beijeing/Shanghai and ask chinese to visit India and hopefully chinese will go back with good memories about India ,this will result in some economic growth and postive image for india and better friendship with China .
I have seen lots of internationall travellers that have posted blogs positively about new airports at both banagalore and Hyderabad, so I do not believe who put this new committe that is blaming Mr Narayana Murthy and making some irrelavent complaints ...grow up and be mature folks
Rama Mohana Rao Anne
Sydney Australia
I have lived in Pittsburgh USA same story ,Pittsburgh has tunnels all around it ,to come out you have to pass through the tunnels and it will take 40-45 minutes ..
New York JFK/New Jersey airport same story
About user taxes ,very high at sydney and all major international airports have raised taxes ..
I have studied in Tasmania(Australia) ,its capital is Hobart ,again from heart of city to airport it takes 40-45 minutes.
I do not know what the fuss is about BIAL Airport ,First IT professionals be reasonable ,just because you live in Banagalore for job ,and want to go back to visit your family in chennai /Hyderabad you need to take a flight and you complain it takes time to reach Airport ,then petition State govt to provide high speed metro service to airport quickly ...
I do not understand compalining about the airport ,how can a modern airport that is future proof built right inside the Bangalaore city no way how will they get the land ..only way is it has built in the city outskirts
Also the committe criticizes that the airport looks like a industrial warehouse rather than symbolising karanataka state we are not building it as a tourist monument ...
Even new Hyderabad international airport is also outskirts of the city .
I do not understand why indians complain about airport cahrges ,but they do not raise a single voice if they are taxed at Changhai airport(Singapore),Sydney or Kualalumpur .
Already the airport charges in India are the lowest find out all airport charges and comapre
Be happy that both bangalore and Hyderabad have got land avaialble to build modern and extensible airports on city outskirts think about Mumbai where getting land as big as Hyderabad /Bangalore is not that easy
So stop compaining and be proud what you have got now and think about making it better ...
may be concentrate on getting more tourists may be do a good ad and ask karanatak/Ap state governments to open tourist office in Beijeing/Shanghai and ask chinese to visit India and hopefully chinese will go back with good memories about India ,this will result in some economic growth and postive image for india and better friendship with China .
I have seen lots of internationall travellers that have posted blogs positively about new airports at both banagalore and Hyderabad, so I do not believe who put this new committe that is blaming Mr Narayana Murthy and making some irrelavent complaints ...grow up and be mature folks
Rama Mohana Rao Anne
Sydney Australia
Posted by: Rama Mohana Rao Anne - 22 Dec, 2009
34:Dear Mr Anne,
I agree with you 100% all the international airports are about 30 -40 KM from the heart of the cities. Hence I would feel this distance should not be much of problem as India is also joining the Developed places. I feel the BIA is also as par as the International standards of any of the other international airports.
I agree with you 100% all the international airports are about 30 -40 KM from the heart of the cities. Hence I would feel this distance should not be much of problem as India is also joining the Developed places. I feel the BIA is also as par as the International standards of any of the other international airports.
Isaac Sudhakar replied to: Rama Mohana Rao Anne
post - 27 Dec, 2009
post - 27 Dec, 2009
35: Defintely Not ,I have 100 pecent confidence
on Mr Narayan Murthy ,it is a ploy to
discredit him ,the way he sets example by
forming venture funds based company to help
India ,his principles,ideals,the infosys
science foundation prize are all indications
that proves what he is and what he stands for
.
Even Sam Pitroda (C-DOT) was not spared ,and these kind of ugly news rears its head it needs to be condemened and people who are responsible for spreading malice and rummours should be punished by Indian Courts.
All the talk about HAL Airport is nonsense ,Banagalore has grown leaps and bounds HAL Airport does not fit the current requirements as simple as that ., therefore we need a new airport ,there was a consortium involved in construction ,albert Brummer was the CEO it was a transparent process.ACTUALLY iam highly critical of this committe ,I want the media to publish the credentials of the people in this committe ,then it will be visible to public how good they are and what experience they have ,the way things are spanning out
First ex-scientists ,retired scientists questioning the India Nuclear tests ,Dr Abdul kalam ,Dr Chidambaram have to issue statements saying they were good enough tests and we have data ,then commonwealth games issue,now the airport issue ,even if there are irregularities involved in the process I do not know howcome Mr Murthy's name is pulled out it is immoral ,it is a crime even god will not forgive ,remember it was the same with Delhi metro Dr Sridharan was working very efficiently but some construction's company that was asked to do the job did not execute it's part properly ,we need to find out why ,correct it and make sure they do not re-occur but we should not let down good people like Dr Sridharan ,for if we make them frustrated and they leave the job ,it will become very worse and India ,Indian public will suffer.
So please stop blaming Mr Narayana Murthy and be happy that he did consent to be on the board in the first place he is defintely not a person that needs attention or limelight ,he does not need that job anyway ,he wanted to do something good to banagalore and India and help India to become a better country.
Media also needs to be responsible and think what they write ,they just should not publish everything straightaway ,at times they are even getting hold of company meetings /HR ploicies and immediately publishing it there is confidentiality involved in company matters and editor incharge should decide and weigh in a lot about the effect it will have later.
Please see how Arun Shourie of Indian Express does his editorial it is constructive criticism and good journalism ,and look at Times Of India /rediff talking about who sizzles at deepavali ,some ego statements saying india's nuclear test were a fizzle etc.these are not positive statements and never serve a good purpose.
Tata ,Infosys are India's beacons,jewels in its cown and Mr Murthy is defintely one of the best,or even best ever in modern times , India has produced corporate leaders ,so please stop harassing him and writing all this rubbish.
On behalf of Indians like me I ask Mr Narayana Murthy to not give attention and MR Murthy I will defintely ask god to give you more strength at this time and keep serving India sir please ignore these fools,please continue what you are doing we are right behind every single NRI Indian knows how much you have contributed to India and we stand by 120 percent behind you .
Even ISRO that has done a wonderful job was not spared by some sections of Media ,they want to have irrelavent and stupid debates was Chandrayan succussful ,when NASA,European Space agency all were saying it was a wonderful succuss still sections of indian media were having headlines like was Chandrayan succussful blah blah
Stop all this rubbish and show some commonsense and please do not harass people /organizations that are doing good to India .if you want go after people who create instability ,selfish politicians,smugglers who do harm to India not harassing people who do good to India if you keep doing this ,I myself will pool in some money and file a case in india against people a defamation case ,as it is worth standing for .
Rama Mohana Rao Anne
Sydney Australia
Even Sam Pitroda (C-DOT) was not spared ,and these kind of ugly news rears its head it needs to be condemened and people who are responsible for spreading malice and rummours should be punished by Indian Courts.
All the talk about HAL Airport is nonsense ,Banagalore has grown leaps and bounds HAL Airport does not fit the current requirements as simple as that ., therefore we need a new airport ,there was a consortium involved in construction ,albert Brummer was the CEO it was a transparent process.ACTUALLY iam highly critical of this committe ,I want the media to publish the credentials of the people in this committe ,then it will be visible to public how good they are and what experience they have ,the way things are spanning out
First ex-scientists ,retired scientists questioning the India Nuclear tests ,Dr Abdul kalam ,Dr Chidambaram have to issue statements saying they were good enough tests and we have data ,then commonwealth games issue,now the airport issue ,even if there are irregularities involved in the process I do not know howcome Mr Murthy's name is pulled out it is immoral ,it is a crime even god will not forgive ,remember it was the same with Delhi metro Dr Sridharan was working very efficiently but some construction's company that was asked to do the job did not execute it's part properly ,we need to find out why ,correct it and make sure they do not re-occur but we should not let down good people like Dr Sridharan ,for if we make them frustrated and they leave the job ,it will become very worse and India ,Indian public will suffer.
So please stop blaming Mr Narayana Murthy and be happy that he did consent to be on the board in the first place he is defintely not a person that needs attention or limelight ,he does not need that job anyway ,he wanted to do something good to banagalore and India and help India to become a better country.
Media also needs to be responsible and think what they write ,they just should not publish everything straightaway ,at times they are even getting hold of company meetings /HR ploicies and immediately publishing it there is confidentiality involved in company matters and editor incharge should decide and weigh in a lot about the effect it will have later.
Please see how Arun Shourie of Indian Express does his editorial it is constructive criticism and good journalism ,and look at Times Of India /rediff talking about who sizzles at deepavali ,some ego statements saying india's nuclear test were a fizzle etc.these are not positive statements and never serve a good purpose.
Tata ,Infosys are India's beacons,jewels in its cown and Mr Murthy is defintely one of the best,or even best ever in modern times , India has produced corporate leaders ,so please stop harassing him and writing all this rubbish.
On behalf of Indians like me I ask Mr Narayana Murthy to not give attention and MR Murthy I will defintely ask god to give you more strength at this time and keep serving India sir please ignore these fools,please continue what you are doing we are right behind every single NRI Indian knows how much you have contributed to India and we stand by 120 percent behind you .
Even ISRO that has done a wonderful job was not spared by some sections of Media ,they want to have irrelavent and stupid debates was Chandrayan succussful ,when NASA,European Space agency all were saying it was a wonderful succuss still sections of indian media were having headlines like was Chandrayan succussful blah blah
Stop all this rubbish and show some commonsense and please do not harass people /organizations that are doing good to India .if you want go after people who create instability ,selfish politicians,smugglers who do harm to India not harassing people who do good to India if you keep doing this ,I myself will pool in some money and file a case in india against people a defamation case ,as it is worth standing for .
Rama Mohana Rao Anne
Sydney Australia
Posted by: Rama Mohana Rao Anne - 22 Dec, 2009
36: Most of the comments here is of STUPID
people. only few has pointed out the real
gimmick.
What do you mean by 'Faulty design'?
Does the committee is consisting of top class Civil Engineers and interior decorators to comment on design?
If BIAL is 'industrial shed', what about HAL airport? Why the HAL airport should be open for public again?
What do you mean by 'Faulty design'?
Does the committee is consisting of top class Civil Engineers and interior decorators to comment on design?
If BIAL is 'industrial shed', what about HAL airport? Why the HAL airport should be open for public again?
Posted by: indian - 22 Dec, 2009
37:I think as the time passes, even the new
airport might shall fall short for the
burgeoning requirements, hence, we can use
HAL for domestic flights and BIAL for
international. It's a win win for everyone.
George replied to: indian
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
38: Hi
I would agree with the JHC report. It has clearly demonstrated that we don't have sufficient competency for infrastructure projects and these are not software outsourcing project where the project director a good level of control. The only way a PPP or any project involving govt can be handled is through massive amount of corruption and satisfying vested interests. Obviously, this is the outcome.
This ONLY a 2-step solution.
1. Restrict public political career for an individual and his/her dependents for a period of 4 years.
2. Govt. completely get out any such project/activities ( and fully privatize ) and stay as Godfather or authoritarian enforcing governance.
I would agree with the JHC report. It has clearly demonstrated that we don't have sufficient competency for infrastructure projects and these are not software outsourcing project where the project director a good level of control. The only way a PPP or any project involving govt can be handled is through massive amount of corruption and satisfying vested interests. Obviously, this is the outcome.
This ONLY a 2-step solution.
1. Restrict public political career for an individual and his/her dependents for a period of 4 years.
2. Govt. completely get out any such project/activities ( and fully privatize ) and stay as Godfather or authoritarian enforcing governance.
Posted by: IET - 22 Dec, 2009
39: Thought the new airport is breadth of fresh
air. Have been travelling a lot and think it
is right to have a new one. BIAL is a typical
airport like any other in the world. I
personally feel that the airport serves its
purpose. Incoming flights from various
locations have been made possible, which
could never be dreamt off with the HAL
facility.
Posted by: Dilip - 22 Dec, 2009
40: Moorthy may be ignorance. who is the design
and development of the particular project,
pls catch hold of them. It is a purely the
role of architect and civil construction and
whether design has been reviewed ,
verification and validation done and all the
points would have been verified prior to
start the project. Mr.moorthy is an IT man
and ignorance of this type of the project.
Who is the consultant and approval authority
of the design of bangalore airport and they
are the main culprit.
Posted by: sundaramashwini - 22 Dec, 2009
41: Well i have been travelling to africa on
bussiness trips a lot, Bangalore airport
looks exactly similar to ADDIS ABABA Airport
in ethopia, Hope either of one have not
copied the design. Airport is always the
first impression that gives to the traveller,
whether the country or city is good or
bad.JHC Should not compromise on any
things,People found guilty should be
punished.
Posted by: SAM - 22 Dec, 2009
42: Take a AK47 and shoot all the people who are
responsible, KALLAZ
Posted by: Sanoj Nambiar - 22 Dec, 2009
43: Agreed guilty should be punished--but who is
to decide the persons who are guilty --the
politicians who do not have any moral or
professional or technical competence to
assess anything --or real experts who can
understand the real issues involved and make
the right judgements . No one says NRN is
above law --in fact NRN will be the first to
accept that --and will subject himself to
lawful judgement --unlike the crooked
politicians who talk about law but but evade
laws all the time using political
contacts.
Posted by: rajvaidya - 22 Dec, 2009
44:What is all this nonsense talk about 'Crooked
politicicans'? As if one did not know that
Indian politicians would be ruling India
after 1947. If Indian politicians are crooks,
then the others are no better.
Ved from Victoria Institutions replied to: rajvaidya
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
45: I second that ...
Barath replied to: Ved from Victoria Institutions
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
46: I think the accountability on bad design lies
with the people who sought his advice. Mr
Narayan Murthy is not expert on the design of
airports. Lot of professionals are available
to advise on the right design of an airport.
Mr Murthy is an authority on IT sector and
not on airport building.
Posted by: OD Sharma - 22 Dec, 2009
47: Even the Joint House committe is not an
experts Body. They are also Politicians. We
have seen this kind of fights since
indipendance. Lets not waste our time on
this. If you have a suggestion to improve the
condition in the AIrport lets tak about it.
There are several reports like this thrown to
dust Bin.
Posted by: K Laxminarayana Rao - 22 Dec, 2009
48: In general,this Airport is a world Class one
in terms of size,facilities and location.But
in terms of quality of construction etc,we
have to blame the parties involved for
construction and inspections.Why to bring in
the great visionaries behind this like Mr.NRN
etc.How can you expect them to look in to
these aspects.Firms like L&T are
responsible for rectifications of any flaw to
design and construction.I feel in nay case
domestic flights shall not be operated form
HAl airport at the interest of Politicians.
Posted by: sreekumar - 22 Dec, 2009
49:Keeping apart the political issues, as a
general i would like to venture a simple
point here i.e. although we really require
the old airport to be restarted for the
comfortness of domestic people who can use
the communication facilities in more usable
manner (I mean to say salaried employees and
IT group of people who usually need to go to
and fro to their home towns can actually save
their time. As of now if BDA has any other
kind of plans to re-use that particular place
it is alright otherwise big shots can take a
look into this following matter
abhijit bhattacharjee replied to: sreekumar
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
50:I fully agree with you. Bangalore needs one
more Airpot and WHy not reopen Old Airport
Also. Politicians and Industry Rivals wants
NRN to be thrown to dust bin. I respect him
he is one Indian who built along with his
trusted friends a Business which every Indian
is proud off. Unlike Politicians Infosys
culture do not allow any one to stick to
positions till death. Infosys provided
leadership to a altogether new corporate
culture. Instead of blaming NRn or L & T
Government run by the dirty Politicians who
are ruining this country are to be blamed.The
JHC is a political committe and not a
committe of experts and investigators. They
might have taken the servics of experts who
dance to their tunes
K Laxminarayana Rao replied to: sreekumar
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
51: In India, we sleep during project execution,
quality control checks and approvals do not
exist, contractors make money and then we
wake up after the project is handed over and
start pointing fingers at others. When will
we stop this nonsense? Isnt this one more of
the political game played dirtily in our
country? Someone has rightly written about
the money Deve Gowda and his family made in
buying & selling land in Mysore Road and
Bellary Road just by announcing and shifting
the location of the new airport in the mid
1990s. Now they are trying to tarnish the
image of Murthy, L&T etc. It is better
for the country if politics are kept out of
projects and professional quality control and
approval of contractor bills is resorted to.
Posted by: AP, Bangalore - 22 Dec, 2009
52: He is responsible for this.If some thing get
successfull he is first to claim that. He
should take responsibility for this also.
He is always out spoken and speak on all national issues.And now he is sitting silent.
He is always out spoken and speak on all national issues.And now he is sitting silent.
Posted by: Varun - 22 Dec, 2009
53:Well said Varun ! But who is 'HE' ? :-(
Robin replied to: Varun
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
54:the JHC is politicians with vested interests
neithwer tehy are engineers nor
administrators
Deveg owda HDK like are having the vested intersts - it is the then govt headed by Congress to be hanged
Sridhar
Deveg owda HDK like are having the vested intersts - it is the then govt headed by Congress to be hanged
Sridhar
Sridhar replied to: Varun
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
55: is HAL airport "WORLD CLASS" ? HAL airport
looks like a big auto stand where planes are
parked. Biocon chief woman is paying
politicians to speak against BIAL.
Posted by: Rakesh - 22 Dec, 2009
56: If there is a problem with the delivery then
he (and the others named) should be
accountable as those in charge of the
delivery at some point. Difficult to
understand why so many are questioning this -
is NRN above accountability? certainly not.
Is it difficult to believe that he may have
erred in some way? if u think so, let us know
why.
Posted by: pgskwy - 22 Dec, 2009
57: What exactly is wrong with these people. BIA
is the finest and the most beautiful airport
in the country and yet they its faulty?
Calling it an "Indutrial Shed", what were
they expecting? A palace made out of gold?
Posted by: Anoop - 22 Dec, 2009
58:Yeh andar ki baat hai Anoop, yeh kewal dikhta
menhga hai :-)
Robin replied to: Anoop
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
59: Ignoring the corruption/integrity aspect,
lets simply look at it from the (post-mortem)
process point of view for the bad quality
issue -
(a) if the quality of deliverable is bad, should the concerned engineering organization be punished? i hope everyone will agree that they should be punished - whether it is by holding back their payment or imposing fine or blacklisting as appropriate.
(b) if there was a quality check department/organization who missed all this in their audits, should they be punished too? i would say yes again.
(c) should the management (including NRN) be held responsible/accountable for bad vendor selection or bad job from the quality check department? i would say that they've already lost some of their goodwill/respect in the BIAL project because of the improper execution and early quitting. for men of their stature, this is enough taint and further action may not be required on them.
this is what i can say on the bad-quality issue. if there are other factors like corruption, appropriate penal action can be taken based if anyone is found guilty.
(a) if the quality of deliverable is bad, should the concerned engineering organization be punished? i hope everyone will agree that they should be punished - whether it is by holding back their payment or imposing fine or blacklisting as appropriate.
(b) if there was a quality check department/organization who missed all this in their audits, should they be punished too? i would say yes again.
(c) should the management (including NRN) be held responsible/accountable for bad vendor selection or bad job from the quality check department? i would say that they've already lost some of their goodwill/respect in the BIAL project because of the improper execution and early quitting. for men of their stature, this is enough taint and further action may not be required on them.
this is what i can say on the bad-quality issue. if there are other factors like corruption, appropriate penal action can be taken based if anyone is found guilty.
Posted by: Soumya Desai - 22 Dec, 2009
60:Ultimately Politician whom we elected iss
responsible for all the problems. Start
punishing your local MP and MLA first. Evry
thing will become alright. You have voted
them or sold your votes to them or didnot
vote at all. Now they Politcs every where.
K Laxminarayana Rao replied to: Soumya Desai
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
61: This is stupidity. If the committee can now
bring forth that the international airport is
substandard, why there was no committee to
check the quality of the airport while it was
being built? What is the point in punishing
those involved in the airport construction
now? Looks like those who were involved with
the infrastructure of the airport have eaten
stomach full from the funds allocated for the
airport construction at every step in the
building of the airport.
Posted by: prashanth - 22 Dec, 2009
62: You can't get everything possible. I am
always surprised to see the business people
participation in govt activities, either
criticizing OR developing. Responsibility and
Reputation are two different things, one
should draw a fine line between them. If you
are responsible, then you are responsible.
First place why a business man involved in
Govt project. I feel this should be a lesson
for great Indian business men to realize keep
away from Govt, where lot of other motives
also drives.
Posted by: Satyanarayana - 22 Dec, 2009
63: law must be equal for everybody,i don't think
NRN to blame.
Posted by: sanjib - 22 Dec, 2009
64: Its the time for Narayan Murthy to bring
forward hard realties behind this complete
story. He might not have involved in this.
However, he is one such person who knows the
realty behind it.We don't want NRN and his
followers worldwide to let down by just
making the people to assume the acceptance of
the blame by keeping silent.
Posted by: Yug - 22 Dec, 2009
65: Its like Kettle is calling pot black....
What punishments you are talking about and on what grounds ?
If its prison term / penalty ... then think about these also...
H D Devegowda (How much land did he acquire in Govt Projects and at what rate disposed off along with his cronies)
H D Kumaraswamy (Should we mention ...)
B S Yeddyurappa (He openly shamed himself about the greeds of politicians)
Then what about the projects launched by successive governments which have failed miserably to achieve the targets...
Also what about the common salaried people, who pay tax only because its deducted by the employers. They try all the tricks to evade other taxes like Interest on FDs / Amount received on rent...
I am a pessimistic over here... unless we change ourselves, we cannot blame others for their greed / inefficiencies
What punishments you are talking about and on what grounds ?
If its prison term / penalty ... then think about these also...
H D Devegowda (How much land did he acquire in Govt Projects and at what rate disposed off along with his cronies)
H D Kumaraswamy (Should we mention ...)
B S Yeddyurappa (He openly shamed himself about the greeds of politicians)
Then what about the projects launched by successive governments which have failed miserably to achieve the targets...
Also what about the common salaried people, who pay tax only because its deducted by the employers. They try all the tricks to evade other taxes like Interest on FDs / Amount received on rent...
I am a pessimistic over here... unless we change ourselves, we cannot blame others for their greed / inefficiencies
Posted by: Westu - 22 Dec, 2009
66: ITS REALLY A NUISANCE TO BLAME NARAYAN MURTHY
, THE CONSTRUCTION TEAM COMPRISING L&T
& OTHERS FOR POOR QUALITY , WORKMANSHIP
& TRANSPARENCY ISSUES AT BIAL AIRPORT.
L&T IS A RENOWNED CONSTRUCTION GIANT WITH LAURELS AT ITS BACK FOR CONSTRUCTING WORLD CLASS PROJECTS WITH QUALITY & SINCERITY TOWARDS THE JOB.L&T HAS PRACTICE TO TAKE NO NEGLIGENCE W.R.T TO DESIGN,ENGG.& PROCUREMENT.IT ALWAYS HAS FOSTERED THE CULTURE OF QUALITY TOWARDS THE CONSTRUCTION.
REGARDING NARAYAN MURTHY , HE IS A MAN OF VISION AND PERFECTION WHO TOOK THE INDIAN IT & SOFTWARE INDUSTRY TO GREAT HEIGHTS AT A TIME WHEN INDIA NOWHERE STOOD IN THE RACE.
ITS A POLITICAL GIMMIC & BLAME GAME JUST TO SQUEEZE MONEY FROM INDIAN BIGGIES, HENCE GOVT. OF KARNATKA SHOULD NOT BE CARRIED OUT WITH SUCH TYPE OF NEWS AS INFOSYS & L&T HAVE CONTRIBUTED IN THE NATION DEVELOPMENT & EMPLOYMENT AT LARGE WHICH HAS ALLOWED INDIA TO SURVIVE THE RECESSION.
L&T IS A RENOWNED CONSTRUCTION GIANT WITH LAURELS AT ITS BACK FOR CONSTRUCTING WORLD CLASS PROJECTS WITH QUALITY & SINCERITY TOWARDS THE JOB.L&T HAS PRACTICE TO TAKE NO NEGLIGENCE W.R.T TO DESIGN,ENGG.& PROCUREMENT.IT ALWAYS HAS FOSTERED THE CULTURE OF QUALITY TOWARDS THE CONSTRUCTION.
REGARDING NARAYAN MURTHY , HE IS A MAN OF VISION AND PERFECTION WHO TOOK THE INDIAN IT & SOFTWARE INDUSTRY TO GREAT HEIGHTS AT A TIME WHEN INDIA NOWHERE STOOD IN THE RACE.
ITS A POLITICAL GIMMIC & BLAME GAME JUST TO SQUEEZE MONEY FROM INDIAN BIGGIES, HENCE GOVT. OF KARNATKA SHOULD NOT BE CARRIED OUT WITH SUCH TYPE OF NEWS AS INFOSYS & L&T HAVE CONTRIBUTED IN THE NATION DEVELOPMENT & EMPLOYMENT AT LARGE WHICH HAS ALLOWED INDIA TO SURVIVE THE RECESSION.
Posted by: DEEPAK KOUL MACHAMA - 22 Dec, 2009
67:get lost man
satish replied to: DEEPAK KOUL MACHAMA
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
68: Guilty should be punished. Even he is NRN or
someone else. Law is equal to everyone.
Posted by: Hanumanth - 22 Dec, 2009
69:Agreed guilty should be punished--but who is
to decide the persons who are guilty --the
politicians who do not have any moral or
professional or technical competence to
assess anything --or real experts who can
understand the real issues involved and make
the right judgements . No one says NRN is
above law --in fact NRN will be the first to
accept that --and will subject himself to
lawful judgement --unlike the crooked
politicians who talk about law but but evade
laws all the time using political contacts.
raj vaidya replied to: Hanumanth
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
70: Designing the project is technical &
lapses in technical viability as per the
intrnational norms needs to be looked in to
seriously, with so many experts involved in
it. Any lapse should not be taken lightly.
Implimenting the designed project by way of awarding the contract to competent, trusted & time tested, globally recognised contractors with completely transprent procedures laid in the administrative guidelines, without interference of any political or other mafian force needs to be looked in to & severest punitive action given to the root persons involved.
Who will bell the cat. more so when the mouse is in some one's hand & control with some one else is the big question or the ICE to be broken.
Unless governaNce & judiciary think for the benefit of the lowest level of human benefit, things go in the same familiar circles of blame game & vanish giving ways to the next problems & arguments & committees & eveding risponsibilities(If there are any, more so in the committees).
Lesser written better.
Very sad state of affairs for growing economy like INDIA.
Implimenting the designed project by way of awarding the contract to competent, trusted & time tested, globally recognised contractors with completely transprent procedures laid in the administrative guidelines, without interference of any political or other mafian force needs to be looked in to & severest punitive action given to the root persons involved.
Who will bell the cat. more so when the mouse is in some one's hand & control with some one else is the big question or the ICE to be broken.
Unless governaNce & judiciary think for the benefit of the lowest level of human benefit, things go in the same familiar circles of blame game & vanish giving ways to the next problems & arguments & committees & eveding risponsibilities(If there are any, more so in the committees).
Lesser written better.
Very sad state of affairs for growing economy like INDIA.
Posted by: Krishna Burli - 22 Dec, 2009
71: Sarika, its very difficult to blame someone
of NRN Murthy's stature.
Posted by: satish - 21 Dec, 2009
72:Just because he is NR Murthy doesn\'t mean
that he is above any faults and cant be
touched.
But with reference to the above issue, I believe the technical design team is more to blame then one \"big\" Indian name.
But with reference to the above issue, I believe the technical design team is more to blame then one \"big\" Indian name.
Yps replied to: satish
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
73: I accept you satish, If Murthy is found
guilty, h shud be punished.
Personally I hate him as he behaves very rude when it comes to the othe companies. It was an open secret in the Infosys when the interviews were going on and so many Satyam employees who were dragged to road faced the difficulty of joining the job with a very less pay "Drag down the salaries as much as you can" was rumoured around in infosys HR departments and the statement was committed to by the Great NR Murthy. He believes he is the only one talented.
Personally I hate him as he behaves very rude when it comes to the othe companies. It was an open secret in the Infosys when the interviews were going on and so many Satyam employees who were dragged to road faced the difficulty of joining the job with a very less pay "Drag down the salaries as much as you can" was rumoured around in infosys HR departments and the statement was committed to by the Great NR Murthy. He believes he is the only one talented.
Googram replied to: Yps
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
74: It is a fashion nowadays to blame only the
politician and not the business man who is a
partner. Both are hand-in-hand in major so
called economical activities where thousands
of crores of rupees spent in the name of
development and siphoned to coffers of the
elite. The politician fools the illiterate
and the business man fools the so called
literate.
Be it Murthy or Ratan Tata or Ambanis all are corrupt. They care only for the shareholders and not the society. They wish to fool others by calling their arrant trash as CSR (Corporate social responsibility) for which all the newspaper (PR /Opinion) loving middle-class
Be it Murthy or Ratan Tata or Ambanis all are corrupt. They care only for the shareholders and not the society. They wish to fool others by calling their arrant trash as CSR (Corporate social responsibility) for which all the newspaper (PR /Opinion) loving middle-class
Posted by: CGK - 21 Dec, 2009
75: As always, the politician is way out of the
picture who masterminded all this and got
requisite approvals from the house to go
ahead and build one International Airport.
What about the land mafia who made a fortune
in Devanahalli by grabbing agricultural land
for pittance or nothing at all? Who are the
top guys behind them? Why was there a
pressure to build an airport 40-50kms away
from the city and not any where else? I guess
we need to use our educated minds for logical
thinking than simply pull muck on some
established people who have taken the onus to
streamline how the administration runs
projects.
Posted by: Manoj Bajpe - 21 Dec, 2009
76:exactly 100 % right man
Uday replied to: Manoj Bajpe
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
77:Well said Manoj.
Don't we all know the political forces behind the land mafia? Why not investiaget the circumstances under which Murthy resigned from the airport board? A lot of skeletons are bound to come rolling out.
And what is the problem apart from the fact that it was built in the middle of nowhere due to political pressure?
And what is the glory of karnataka that is being talked about? Is it the Gowda clan that is the source of this glory?
Don't we all know the political forces behind the land mafia? Why not investiaget the circumstances under which Murthy resigned from the airport board? A lot of skeletons are bound to come rolling out.
And what is the problem apart from the fact that it was built in the middle of nowhere due to political pressure?
And what is the glory of karnataka that is being talked about? Is it the Gowda clan that is the source of this glory?
Nirmal replied to: Manoj Bajpe
post - 21 Dec, 2009
post - 21 Dec, 2009
78: Even if politician names come out, there
won't be any problem for those shameless
creatures. We have example of "Madhu Koda".
Varun replied to: Nirmal
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
79: Mr. Murthy has been applauded by all quarters
of the society for building an industry (not
just Infosys) in India. The IT industry owes
a lot to Mr. Murthy and his company. Not to
forget the value that he and his company have
delivered to his shareholders over a period
of time.
The report which is tabled before the legislature could be indicating that there were several lapses.
Several pertinent questions that occur to my mind are:-
Why is that these lapses surfaced only when the passengers complained about them? Why could we not find out about the shortcomings in design before BIA was open to commercial passengers? What was the mechanism used to review the design? Were there any deviations from original design? What experience does the management team constituted to run this project have in executing such projects earlier? Did we go by the popularity of those in charge of managing for choosing the management team or were there some objective reasons behind choosing the management team? If there were objective reasons for choosing management team was there an assessment of whether the team has achieved the objectives for which it was formed? What is the result of such an assessment?
The report which is tabled before the legislature could be indicating that there were several lapses.
Several pertinent questions that occur to my mind are:-
Why is that these lapses surfaced only when the passengers complained about them? Why could we not find out about the shortcomings in design before BIA was open to commercial passengers? What was the mechanism used to review the design? Were there any deviations from original design? What experience does the management team constituted to run this project have in executing such projects earlier? Did we go by the popularity of those in charge of managing for choosing the management team or were there some objective reasons behind choosing the management team? If there were objective reasons for choosing management team was there an assessment of whether the team has achieved the objectives for which it was formed? What is the result of such an assessment?
Posted by: Sidhartha Anireddy - 21 Dec, 2009
80: The success of all IT czars including
Mr.Murthy has been at the cost of
deteriorating Bangalore, which was once a
garden.The pollution,the number of innocent
lives being lost due to accidents, the
increase in number of cars, the cost of
housing,the scarcity of daily needs. No body
can escape the blame
Posted by: Zahed - 21 Dec, 2009
81:Well said Mr.Zahed. The software industry
might have made Bangalore a popular city on
the world map but it has brought untold
miseries to the life of the original
Bangaloreans. The need of the hour is to
spread out these software units to Tier-II
& III cities to stop migration of people.
Moreover if the design of BIA is faulty &
not upto the mark why professionals in the
particular field of business not appointed
but IT/IAS officers were made the Executives?
Sesha replied to: Zahed
post - 21 Dec, 2009
post - 21 Dec, 2009
82: Indeed Mr.Murthy would be responsible. Who
knows how much he siphoned off to Infosys
that it posted profits even during global
meltdown. Interrogate Mr. NRN Murthy
thoroughly and he is the big fish to be
caught first.
Posted by: Jay Ram - 21 Dec, 2009
83: Just that Narayana Murthy was first director,
doesn’t mean that he is completely
responsible for whole incompetency of system
to get simple things done.
Even god cannot help us, if we are not willing to help ourself first. (What could Narayana Murthy do?)
Even god cannot help us, if we are not willing to help ourself first. (What could Narayana Murthy do?)
Posted by: Vishnu Vardhan - 21 Dec, 2009
84:This is political vendetta unleashed by some
disgruntled elements who are envious of Mr
Murthy's success. YSR orchestrated Nimesh
Kampani's arrest in a cheque bouncing case
concerning Nagarjuna Finance when the
investment banking champion was only a non
Executive Director but he was singled out as
YSR had a bone to pick with him for raising
finance for an industrialist who was not
favorably disposed to the late politician.
Murthy cant be judged by corrupt bureaucrats
or politicians - he is far above the muck
that this gentry come from.
Chiranjit Banerjee replied to: Vishnu Vardhan
post - 21 Dec, 2009
post - 21 Dec, 2009
85: The statement
"there was "a complete lack of transparency" in awarding engineering, procurement and construction contracts by BIAL." and "I have consistently criticized the monopoly status of the airport. " These two statements say lot of thing.
Remember, these projects are constructed using taxpayers money, and the system doesn't facilitate the things to go in the way that they are supposed to.
I strongly suspect some official must have taken bribe to award the project contracts.(corruption is the way the things go about)
"there was "a complete lack of transparency" in awarding engineering, procurement and construction contracts by BIAL." and "I have consistently criticized the monopoly status of the airport. " These two statements say lot of thing.
Remember, these projects are constructed using taxpayers money, and the system doesn't facilitate the things to go in the way that they are supposed to.
I strongly suspect some official must have taken bribe to award the project contracts.(corruption is the way the things go about)
Posted by: Vishnu Vardhan - 21 Dec, 2009
86:Where is RTI? Where is whistle-blowing?
Kintu Shah replied to: Vishnu Vardhan
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
87: If it is so, Mr. Murthy deserves it!
Posted by: vishwanath - 21 Dec, 2009
88: Not only Murthy, also rest of the officials
are to be blamed.
Posted by: Sarika - 21 Dec, 2009
89:Sarika,
We are ready to do as you say, please let us know the future plan of action.
please pass your contact details, let's meet and plan.
Many Regards
We are ready to do as you say, please let us know the future plan of action.
please pass your contact details, let's meet and plan.
Many Regards
Jean Paul replied to: Sarika
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
90:Yes you are 100% right my dear Sarika, I like
your writing style.
Let's be friends and more.
Let's be friends and more.
Jean Paul replied to: Sarika
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
91: I think you are intersted in chatting with
girls only. Silicon India is providing the
chance to do.
Stranger replied to: Jean Paul
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
92:Its too easy to blame.. Those who have
understood infy and its policies would
understand the kind of values NRN has brought
to the IT industry.. He was a pioneer.. dont
blame such people before a through
investigation.
Ganesh replied to: Sarika
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
93: Lets not mix private business and government
business.Govt is a service organisation and
private firms are doing business.Because NRN
is a successful businessman in his domain,it
does not mean that he can manage
everything.It shows the quality of our
bureaucrats and politicians that for
everything we have to depend upon people like
NRN. Because NRN was part of the advisory
committee,its is unfair to blame him.We
shall appreciate him for involving in such
business by foregoing his valuable time.There
are lots of good international designers and
consultants available for any type of
projects to build world class infrastructure
to blindly depend upon.Lets stop commenting
after completion of a project.When we are
able to create world class
rockets/satellites/software/medicines,there
is no point in blaming for a substandard
airport.lets punish the stake
holders/designers/contractors for any wrong
doings to avoid repetition in future.
kumar replied to: Ganesh
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
94:yes u r right sarika!
subbu replied to: Sarika
post - 21 Dec, 2009
post - 21 Dec, 2009
95:karnataka govt has to investigat and take the
nesassary action.
devaraj replied to: Sarika
post - 21 Dec, 2009
post - 21 Dec, 2009
96: Respected persons like Murthy should not be
blamed without correct grounds. He is the
one who enhanced the IT Infrastructure of
India.
Jean Paul replied to: devaraj
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
97: In general,this Airport is a world Class one
in terms of size,facilities and location.But
in terms of quality of construction etc,we
have to blame the parties involved for
construction and inspections.Why to bring in
the great visionaries behind this like Mr.NRN
etc.How can you expect them to look in to
these aspects.?Firms like L&T are
responsible for rectifications
KHAISER PERVEEZ replied to: Jean Paul
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
98: What rubbish are the politicians trying to
stir up now? Just because they are out of a
gangbang and have nothing to do except listen
to the comments of their whores on why the
BIAL was faulty with design, doesn't mean
they can do or say what they want.
Construction Issues with the BIAL? Look who's
talking! The politicians of Bangalore! And
mind me, they would'nt even know what a
hangar is! Crap..NRN..? Do they know the
meaning of faulty? Bangalore Heritage?
ha..ha..That is all there is to say! When
people elect blokes to the post, this is what
happens! Dont complain people, you brought
them there!
Joey Ezekiel replied to: KHAISER PERVEEZ
post - 22 Dec, 2009
post - 22 Dec, 2009
99:1. The airport is not upto the international
standards (technically). U can compare it to
Hyd Intl Airport.
2. Constructing a massive airport like this cant be done so stupidly..without checking its progress in stages. this is not a housing project.
3. what was the Govt doing when things were not on track? they shld have directed the board to look into it and give xplantions.
4. Finally the onus of responsibility lies on the board of directors if the project fails to achieve the desired objectives. even after 20+yrs of union carbide disaster the CEO is still responsible for wat has happnd.he cant just wash his hands off.
5. The board of directors shld have be technically competent persons in the Airport Construction & Management. Not those who run software or hardware or manufacturing.
6. so rite from start to end, it was a disaster project.
2. Constructing a massive airport like this cant be done so stupidly..without checking its progress in stages. this is not a housing project.
3. what was the Govt doing when things were not on track? they shld have directed the board to look into it and give xplantions.
4. Finally the onus of responsibility lies on the board of directors if the project fails to achieve the desired objectives. even after 20+yrs of union carbide disaster the CEO is still responsible for wat has happnd.he cant just wash his hands off.
5. The board of directors shld have be technically competent persons in the Airport Construction & Management. Not those who run software or hardware or manufacturing.
6. so rite from start to end, it was a disaster project.
Sam Joseph replied to: Joey Ezekiel
post - 23 Dec, 2009
post - 23 Dec, 2009
100: hey instead of calling all the officials and
companies who have done it the govt should
look for the points missing as one has sad he
didnt get water or other faiclites and govt
should try to improve . building doesnot
matter service matters
abhishek kumar replied to: Sam Joseph
post - 26 Dec, 2009
post - 26 Dec, 2009
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