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Indians most corrupt while doing business abroad
By   siliconindia news bureau
Wednesday,23 September 2009, 20:07 hrs
 
New Delhi: Around 30 percent of the 2,742 business executives surveyed across the globe feel that Indians are among the most corrupt, when doing business abroad to 'speed things up'. The survey done by a non-governmental organization (NGO) called Transparency International India (TII) claims that Indian and Chinese firms play an active role in global business but engage in 'bribery' when doing business abroad.



'The Global Corruption Report 2009: Corruption and the Private Sector (GCR)' also says that the Competition Act enacted in 2002, which promotes and sustains competition in markets and protects the interest of consumers, has remained a non-starter in India. The report says, a minimum of 100 senior executives each in 26 countries were questioned regarding the practices used by business persons from various nations.

"TII has had some measure of success with public sector firms with the use of Integrity Pact, a tool to check corruption in procurement and tendering. We have not been able to generate similar interest among the private sector yet," says TII Chairman RH Tahiliani. Another concern the report addresses is how the sheer economic power of some firms and business sectors translates into disproportionate and undue leverage on political-decision making.

"Companies have no clear cut guideline on regulating and making transparent political contributions. Corporates report high-level strategic commitments to anti-corruption but they do not always report on the necessary support systems required to meet these commitments," says Anupama Jha, Executive Director of TII. The report also points out that half of international business executives polled estimated that corruption raised project costs by at least 10 percent. "Ultimately it is citizens who pay: consumers around the world were overcharged around U.S. $300 billion through almost 300 private international cartels discovered from 1990 to 2005," she adds.

     
   
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1: I went thru all comments of so many proud Indians...
Indians dont change. They are mean, corrupt and very biased.
whatever live in your Heaven called India and keep paying bribes.. Yes all world is just looking at you to follow..:)
Yes you got support of 33 crore Gods-goddess....
Puri duniya tumhare bharose hi hai...
njoy bad roads, corrupt politicians, poor services and so called great Indian( very biased) culture and India ...
Posted by: Rahul Pathak - 24 Sep, 2009
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2:Rahul supporter, you said it right. All these passionate desis writing in support of India are highly emotional and have mental health issues.
 nick replied to: Rahul Pathak 
 post - 28 Sep, 2009
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3:Can we say that you are biased against Indians.
Would you believe if some one said things were the other way round. We have values and believe so do our fellowmen and sometimes reports demeaning like this, make us feel annoyed. we find it difficult to digest and you make us think that you expected this

 priya replied to: Rahul Pathak 
 post - 28 Sep, 2009
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4:where do you live Rahul? And which ever place you live can you tell that its a country with no bad? if you can prove that there is any country in this world with no bad there then you we all will call that a heaven.
 vijeshmenon replied to: Rahul Pathak 
 post - 27 Sep, 2009
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5: what about TII's report about Pakistan? pls any one reply me i dont know..
Posted by: mohan - 24 Sep, 2009
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6:Does it matter what happens in PAK? Maybe you compare yourself with Nigeria, Myanmar or other states of this kind and feel happy. It matters what others think about you if you want to make business!
 MyOpinion replied to: mohan 
 post - 25 Sep, 2009
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7:yo man keep comparing with pakistan nd u'll b always happy..
v shud learn from d best not b satisfied comparing with worst examples in every case :)
 Rahul Pathak replied to: mohan 
 post - 25 Sep, 2009
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8: The people who r accepting bribes are equally corrupt as people giving them. So why blame indians. Parallel economy is a reality and you just can't avoid it.
See the large defence deals west is getting from all developing nations. Can't u figure out corruptions there......
Posted by: shailesh - 24 Sep, 2009
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9:I agree to this because the peoples of the countries who accepts the bribes and all are more corrupted than so called Corrupt Indians. As the receiver is waiting for the bribe to come. And by any instance the so called Corrupted Indian is on the top level in most of the other countries. And you need a brain to corrupt somebody else also which only so called Corrupted Indian have this.

In fact, Indian are not most corrupted, Indians are most in demand in other countries because of the talent.
I think most of the peoples should agree to this. In
 Puneet Rawal replied to: shailesh 
 post - 27 Sep, 2009
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10:I too support this view, what does this report wants to state? all indians are currept? If its a Indian who is taking bribe and given by an Indian or any X, Y r Z natinality then the Indian is currept and when and Indian gives the money to any X, Y r Z national for getting things done then again the Indian is currept.. Whant kind of a finding is that? Hey guys firt be patriotic and learn whats freedom and what an Indian enjoys inside india. You can make reports after reports blaming indina instead talk about things which Indians face in other countries and fight for India. An american travels to india and what kind of security check he undergoes? And in the same case if an Indian travels to America or any other developed county (inc our President & PM) they are screened and scanned. We should be ashamed of such things.
 Vijesh Menon replied to: shailesh 
 post - 27 Sep, 2009
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11: This time itwas not the Indians but the Americans who through their white lie promising to be bastions of safegaurding the investments of banks, companies and individuals have brought this world into recession. What are these after all? They are not corruption in true dictionary meaning, but are worse than corruption - a superlative meaning so as to say. Why blame Inians atall. Protectionism in name of patenting is also corruption becuase we are restraining market fair play and competition. Afterall every development and innovation is th first time but patenting them is what? Is it not making corruption black and white.
Posted by: Mini - 24 Sep, 2009
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12: So what else is new? I've been saying this ever since I have been subscribing to your newsletter. If there is a loophole in the law, it takes an Indian to find it and once found, exploit it to the limit. Undercutting a competitor at all costs is the foundation of any Indian enterprise. And it's the double-edged sword that's responsible for these antics. Indians are prone to believe that their rewards are either here or in another dimension. And they classify rewards into two groups: Material Rewards and Spiritual Rewards. If you want your material rewards, including wealth, in *this* world then he believes that he can do anything to get them. Firstly, they are material in nature. And according to Hindu philosophy, chasing after any material gains or comforts is bad to begin with. So, why not bite the bullet and suspend all personal values? He'll be going to hell in any case.

Those who long for spiritual rewards keep fooling themselves that their rewards are waiting for them in heaven, if they are willing to live like beggars in this world. So, to let off steam, he goes about trying to discourage others from practicing affluence, self-respect, self-esteem, (he calls it pride), or any human endeavor that would raise the well-being of his fellow man.

To an Indian the acquisition of material wealth is wrong. It's a sin. His neighbor, who craves material has been taught since childhood that the only way to material prosperity is to swindle his fellow man. So he has put himself into a Catch 22 situation of his own making.
Posted by: OneOpinion - 24 Sep, 2009
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13:Sry to say, but totally wrong that Indian Philosophy is against Materialism. In fact, you earn money through good means is suggested. Sadhya Shuchita & sadhan Shuchita, both were practised.
Another thing, it is told that u limit urself from explioting any body & any thing, i. e. Nature. Economy through Eco concepts not thru' Exploitation was the basis.
If u can read, pl read the Sri Sukta, how the worship of Shuddha Dhana was done, u can study in this.
One more thing can be added that since Ancient times till date what ever the Scholars(Saints) told is the same thing that our Philosophy stands on four Pillars that Dharma, Artha, Kama, Moksha.
This matches to our wishes, just u observe that any any person of any religion, country aspires really to achieve all these in own life some times surely.
Basically, Philosophy has two parts, one is Upasana & another is to practise all Philosophy Rules in society. Upasana can be Personal or All Inclusive. Both or any type of Upasana is allowed in Hindu Dharma. To reach to Supreme any type of Upasana is allowed. It is heighest Liberal & much much Ultra modern, which is not studied & perceived by our Modern Technical Scholars.
Another mosconception of the fact about Own Karma that do own Karma means Karma kanda or Pujapatha. But it is to do actually your own Karma as per your own make or Passion & own Qualities (original & acquired both) & Education. For more in depth Details read Sri madBhagvad Geeta. It is much bigger than Ocean, I am much small creature to tell against such references.
As we are not practising the true natural & good Noble concepts, that is why Corruption is increasing. it is out of Lust, which is present everywhere in the world. People comment wrongly that it is the basis of all Development of the world. See, all materialistic development is like Energy, that it can be Useful or Harmful, depending on the User's mentality or wish. So if u really want to enjoy the fruits of Materialism, then u have to be real Spiritual or Adhyatmic, so that u can use any development wisely & enjoy it.
Thr is so much to discuss.
Just now this much I can say.
Vithal Deshmukh, Pune- vvd2010@gmail.com
 Vithal Deshmukh replied to: OneOpinion 
 post - 25 Sep, 2009
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14: Oh, PLEASE! Let's give "Sadhya Shuchita & sadhan Shuchita" a rest. Capitalism and Altruism are a bad mix and that's why they have never worked and never will. A mix of Capitalism and Altruism is being paractised globally and being vigorously promoted by socialists in the US today. And look at the result. Look at the state of the world!

Capitalism is a way of life. It's not just a means to make money. Therefore, you cannot practice "filthy" Capitalism and then clean your souls by donating to charity and performing other acts of Altruism to ease your consciences.
 OneOpinion replied to:  Vithal Deshmukh 
 post - 27 Sep, 2009
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15: Corruption playing an important role in Indian development. This country cannot run without corruption if you are really honest tell me whether anyone in this country saw any Honest person. I don't believe him, if anyone says yes, because in my 25 years experience i have never came across anyone.

Indian's are successful 100% because 50% talent + 50% Corruption makes us 100%.

Posted by: Mohammad - 24 Sep, 2009
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16:I am sorry to contradict you Sir! You might not be able to visit any honest human being in India. That does not indicate that India doe snot have any honest human being. There are several honest persons in India. However, the corrupt power of dishonest political decision makers and policy makers press this country downwards ethically and morally!

Further, business tycoons have a very close nexus with corrupt politicians so as to keep India as a corrupt country. This benefits the corrupt people in many ways!

In view of these, my suggestion is that please do not build an equation of honesty/dishonesty as you have not seen entire India and its citizens.
 Arijit replied to: Mohammad 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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17: Corruption...What is it? That's the way it is. It is like gambling and sex for the west. So, what's wrong if we have something in which we are good at....And to this moral west, you looted up all the world and got wealthy, now you speak of morality and humanity. First let us be rich and we will follow you.
Posted by: bijunator - 24 Sep, 2009
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18:Remember"An eye for an eye will make the world blind" my Friend.
 Jude replied to: bijunator 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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19:If you do so, the result will be hate that America is receiving from arround the globe. So, I would suggest you to reach the pinacle with honesty and hardwork...
 Mohsin Ali (Pakistan) replied to: bijunator 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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20: Look at this from other angle.what is corruption? some person with some authority taking some money which is not a part of his/her salary.well,as long as the person is DOING the right work after taking that money without compromising on quality, its absolutely fine.as sometimes the money is given for getting favoritism in competition such as for winning a tender.i dont see anything wrong in that.dont insurance agents get their commission besides their salary? thats not corruption just because it is legalized? where does their commission come from? of course from the investor's money.
but there are people who dont do work even after taking money.eg. political corporators etc. these are the real bastards.
Posted by: founder - 24 Sep, 2009
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21:You are considering an extremely specific and rare circumstance- that the RIGHT work is done without compromising on quality. Most of the times money is laundered to stop people doing the right and many more times to compromise on quality. As for the tender argument, put yourself in the place of a competing bidder who lost out to someone who paid under the table. Would that be fair?
 omy replied to: founder 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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22: its not fair but its true..i agree with ur opinions but the fact is that..the answer to your question is "all is fair in love and war"
 founder replied to:  omy 
 post - 05 Oct, 2009
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23:Hummm....man just watch the KAMAL HASSAN movie HINDUSTANI you will come to know that ultimately gread of money makes a man doing wrong... to play with human's live....

PLS SAY WRONG WHAT IS WRONG AND RIGHT WHAT IS RIGHT...


 Ajay replied to: founder 
 post - 27 Sep, 2009
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24: Come out of films you little boy..think about the real world..whatever shown in the movies is exaggerated.
 founder replied to:  Ajay 
 post - 05 Oct, 2009
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25: It may be correct. But we need to look at it differently. We have been governed by the people elected by people. It all starts from them. Look at it:
the political parties can take donations there is no requirement to keep record of this.
Political parties are one of the largest cash dealers still they need not keep track of that.
Political parties do do have large turnover much more than large scale business concerns still they need not get audited.
Political parties can do horse trading and what not not for power, still the anti corruption teams / departments do not see that.
Politicians are paid salary but look at their living style and accumulation of wealth from first time MLA/MP and second time. From where did they get that riches?. Where are these Anti corruption drivers?.
Politicians need not pay income tax or any other taxes?.Why? they are bosses and rulers they live on tax collected and then why pay tax at all?.
These decision has to be taken by the political parties only. Do any one think they will impose restrictions on themselves.
These type of reports will give mileage for the political people to utter some slogan. I was told in one meeting where the babus were taking part in an anti corruption drive and one person who printed all the banners told his friend sitting next to him that he paid 10% commission to get the contract to print those banners.
If you can not identify the root and weed out that none of your effort will yield fruit. It is only support to corrupt in disguise.
Don't blame them we don't know what has conspired them to write this story. Can there be corruption even here?
Posted by: upkalmadka - 24 Sep, 2009
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26: Can someone tell me who is not corrupt? Perhaps, it's high time that we should rename corruption to something more decent as this virtually exists in each transaction though it's not officially recognized. It's been very long corruption is read as something degrading act whereas it's an energy booster even to a skull. Mind you all, without this going forward, you may not even be welcomed.
Posted by: Jameel - 24 Sep, 2009
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27:It's nitwits like you that perpetuate the notion that corruption is inevitable. Just because almost every one does it is no reason to accept it. There is something called moral fiber. character, integrity etc. We should seek to encourage these rather than seek short term fixes....
 Jay replied to: Jameel 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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28: frnds

This report has revels the truth .Recently I have faced the same problem..with money the electricity board engineer was not ready to sanction the electricity connection.This was really ridiculous to see how much they use their power to make people suffer...

Posted by: chandan - 24 Sep, 2009
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29:without money......
 chandan replied to: chandan 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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30: chandan, do not speak lie. You must have done something wrong or want favour for something extra for which you
want to pay. Remember you are also equally laiable under
the Prevention of Corruption Act.
 AKA replied to:  chandan 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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31: Boss ... it is not like that they ask for bribe only when need some extra favor, they ask the bribe even in doing their duties.

Untill a person will not pay them ..they will make his life suffering.
 Ajju  replied to: AKA 
 post - 27 Sep, 2009
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32: Folks, There is no reason being patriotic to defend the corrupt. Although India has made great progress with the economic boom, it remains very corrupt at its core governmental levels. Forget the high business, even the common man with not-so-deep pockets faces it every day. Try some of the following:
- Get a map approved when you build a house
- Get a school teacher's retirement pension
- School teacher transfer
- Numerous reports of people having to pay bribe to get bodies of dead relatives after postmortem.
- Food being doled out at kids schools which causes sickness

Yes things have improved in big cities. And most of the times readers of this website would be high paid technology professionals from the big cities who would never have to deal with many things.

Without a doubt Indian political system does not have a culture of transparency. Documents from Nehru era are still classified in the National Archives.

Even though things have become smoother to deal with in big cities for folks ready to shell out higher rates, India is very very corrupt. I have seen an immigration officer at IGI airport stamp the passport of a VP of a cell phone company without the VP being present there.

Yes there has been some progress like the telephone department is not so corrupt with the advent of competition from cellphone companies.

The education system is corrupt. Look at the number of engineering colleges. Actually bribe for approval was very disciplined. Fixed rate.

These are the things that we can see. You can go to a Hi-tech city like NOIDA and wonder why its so easy for 400 Crore stadiums to be built and extremely difficult for the municipal corporation to even try to clean the city, or have a system for garbage disposal. You can go to some of the government universities and wonder how come construction projects are so easy to come by while filling up vacancies for teaching faculty is so slow.

You can see hundreds of things like these everyday, which makes one shudder at the amount of corruption at higher levels.
Posted by: Anurag - 24 Sep, 2009
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33:Anurag, I agree 100%. Indians living abroad are living in ivory towers and don't realize what India is. When they visit India they are with their good friends and family and close their eyes when they step out of the house. Try looking out of the train window when travelling - the country is in ruins. Over half a billion illiterates. Over on billion don't have healthy sanitation. No one has clean water even the super wealthy. No human rights for the poor. Try getting married to your sweetheart from other caste in non-metro areas. Haryanvis will hang you with the balls. Education is a nightmare. Even IIT prof. are going on hunger strike. On the positive side, Indians are content especially in rural areas. No jai hind from me. Jai western world.
 Raj replied to: Anurag 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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34: Oh Shut! what is in western countries ? They are going to toilets and dining rooms at the same place and time. If one is enjoying meal then other is discharging waste. More esthama and more pollution. People do not realise this thing in young age but feel in old age when their body donot allow them for repairing their parts. We are inhaling same syptoms while travelling in a bus or metro.Actually every country has two sides both good and evil like a coin so please do not say badly about India. Jai Hind, Jai Bharat Mata.Hai Batan Hai Batan Hamko Teri Kasam..............
 AKA replied to:  Raj 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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35: You are really an idiot and a fool to write this stupid garbage that makes no sense. When and how many countries have you visited? Maybe in your dreams you fool.
 Dinakar  replied to: AKA 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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36: Ha Ha Ha....
Do not fight please...
We would have to accept the facts and correct ourselves....
 Mohsin Ali (Pakistan) replied to: Dinakar 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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37: Strongly disagree. Finns are reported as being the least corrupt by Transparency International. Having lived and worked in Finland for 25 years, it can be considered least corrupt if the laws defining corruption are non-existent. In my opinion all countries have a distinct level of corruption but at least in India they accept it as their way of life. The rest hide it and claim that they are NOT corrupt. Neither is acceptable, but I think the justice system in India may be more open than in Finland so you are likely to get a better decision than in Finland where justice is reserved for the powerful. Police, lawyers, judges, bureaucrats, social workers, are among the most corrupt in Finland. Read my soon to be released book "Inheritance Nightmare" or visit my blog "Oulu Best (Worst) Buy" for some examnples.
Posted by: Jacob Matthan - 24 Sep, 2009
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38: I think its not just in india where bribe exists. Other Countries are in the same boat. Its just that in other countries bribe exists in higher level and in bigger numbers. Why TII don't go after them.
Write some good articles about India. Most of the time we end up reading negative commnets/articles on India.
Posted by: Geeta - 24 Sep, 2009
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39:Nowhere else is it so widespread that you have to [pay cash/tips to every government transaction. Burueacracy is the bane of India. A class of people who have so ingrained in themseleves that they are important and that are useful to society in some mysterious way. Nehru and the Congress party began corruption in India - after they discovered that by nationalizing everything - you could provide employment for all your supporters. Thus began the corruption that is endemic in Indian society. Government employment should be cut to 40% of what it is today and the IAS officers and their clans should be made to undergo reeducation just like they did when the communista took over N. Vietnam and China. Government clerks and staff assistants and selection grade assistants and other henchmen in govt offices serve NO useful purpose and should be sentenced to hard labor for being the corrupt layer of government waste. Eliminate them and the license raj and you eliminate corruption. Make all government transactiuons public. NO SECRECY in anything. We are all Indians. Soi we don't need secrets between us - especially in Govt. transactions. Unlike the British - who had a reason to keep secrets, Indians ruling Indians don't need secrecy.
 Jay replied to: Geeta 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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40:I completely agree. Bribe and corruption are not derived from Sanskrit or Hindi or any other Indian language.
Most of the so called truth-telling-Indians are like a frog in the well who has no idea about the sea / ocean.
 Amulya Gurtu replied to: Geeta 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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41:just coz in india if some one going to do some kind of new bussiness or some thng else thn he or she may be frst demoralised by the politicians,bank rules and many more. And if such kind of enviroment is there then how can we say that india will become the super natural power till 2020... The vision our former Prime Minister saw i thnk we will never acheive if we r fighting on the name of religion,from where he or she belongs to,the long bank procedures,Income Tax employes and all
 rajeev replied to: Geeta 
 post - 20 Oct, 2009
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42: Dear TII Team,

Don't blindly say anything.

Try to research 100% and give the result, don't spoil our names to the worldwide, unless u dont know anything.

Posted by: madhan - 24 Sep, 2009
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43: This report is absolutely contrary to the fact that the recent and the worst ever recession in the history of the world was caused by non-India organization which were led by people from origins other than India. Most of the top banks went bankrupt and biggest automotive organizations went bankrupt and all were non-Indian and led by people from origin other than India. Was it due to honest and ethical practices of the people from those countries?

Enron, Arthur Anderson, Bofors etc are neither Indian organizations nor lead by Indians.

Money sheltering organizations like Swiss Bank is not in India.

And still anyone dares say anything about corruption in India or by Indians is nothing short of slavery to the core towards west & whites.
Posted by: Amulya Gurtu - 24 Sep, 2009
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44:Amulya, in my view u r having a patriotic sprit with indian companies. But u must understand that the people working on overseas are not well established and are following Chanakya (Saam{make understand}, Daam{give money), Dand(punishment} & Bhed{misunderstanding}).
 svatantra replied to: Amulya Gurtu 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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45: You seem to have ignored all the facts I provided and your comments have confirmed my belief about your mental slavery to west / whites.

PS: I have been living and working in a so-called developed country and know the business ethics of organizations in developed world as well.
 Amulya Gurtu replied to:  svatantra 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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46: This is another form of measure of India's corruption level. Maximum amount stacked in secret accounts of banks in foreign countries is from India. The amount exceeds total budgetary amount of government of India for a whole year. Corruption has pervaded the whole society. Why pinpoint business men? Other countrymen are not washed in pure milk
Posted by: SKB - 24 Sep, 2009
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47: This agency has roots in Berlin so why it missed politicians rather businesses. Bofors scam shows there is more corruption in Germany than in India because they given bribe to Indians who were not in business. Is it make sense now ?
Posted by: Ashok Aggarwal - 24 Sep, 2009
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48: What percent of the the total business executives is 2742? .5%, 1%, 1.5% and it will be interesting to know their demographics.
Posted by: Rams - 24 Sep, 2009
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49: In my opinion, the above reporting seems to create a bias in our interpretation of the same. It says that "Around 30 percent of the 2,742 business executives surveyed across the globe feel that Indians are among the most corrupt, when doing business abroad to 'speed things up."

So, this was the opinion of about 30% of the executives who were surveyed. WHAT ABOUT THE OPINION OF THE REMAINING 70%?
Posted by: Bidhan Chandra - 24 Sep, 2009
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50: Corruption is bad and it is a disgrace to any country .
Pl wait, even in the USA if you want to enter a Restaurant or Cafeteria you may have to tip the waiter or the Attendant?
But this is not called Corruption it is only a Tip ?
Corruption has many meanings in different countries .
Posted by: Hans - 24 Sep, 2009
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51: Who is Transparency International India (TII)?

Transparency International India (TII) is the accredited India chapter of Transparency International, an international civil society organisation based at Berlin that has turned the fight against corruption into a worldwide movement.

Where there is business there is corruption. Difference is only system – business & corruption in India is decentralized. In US & Europe its centralize because of capitalist economy.

Transparency International – Please declare the major 100 scams of corruptions in last century. 99 % are from Europe & US. Recent one is Enron.

People are corrupt or non corrupt. Not Indians or Americans.

Stop nonsense, don’t became victim of defaming movement against Indians.
Posted by: Ujwal Latkar - 24 Sep, 2009
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52:Every business man,every capitalist,every political leaders,administrators will be sized after value equalisation of all the currencies into a single unit. who will bell the cat? Have the concerned NGO have given any proposal for value equalisaton. Now is the time, TII should give a proposal to IMF for value equalisation of all the currencies into a single monetary unit. I can reform the existing procedure or formula framed for the purpose.

Sambhunath Tiadi
Freelance Journalist
 Sambhunath Tiadi replied to: Ujwal Latkar 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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53: More Indians are trying to do more business abroad, hence more Indian names will come up in the list. Also, more Indians today are confident of doing business abroad.

While topping the corrupt list is nothing to be proud of, the fact is more than 90 percent of the companies globally use corrupt methods - call what you may - speed money etc. The difference is in developed markets the big guns are corrupt while India being democratic - even the peon will corrupt if his boss is corrupt.

the only remedy is not moralazing corruption but to make doing business more transparent, fewer norms and even fewer touch points.

Posted by: benedict - 24 Sep, 2009
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54: All over the world maximum 10% people are corrupt only but the story of corruptions are being published in broad level. First of all we should change ourselves like we should determine that neither we will take bribe nor we will give to others & accompanying this we should sure that knowing about the corruptions as well as by means reading, seeing or any way we will not keep seilent, to try to stop this on own level without thinking any success. We should always spread the story of honesty on every where. Over 10% people 90% people will surely success to prevent the evil by roots in all over the world.

We will be change ourself then others also will be changevery soon. I am sure about this.

Sudha Asthana
Moradabad, India
Posted by: Sudha Asthana - 24 Sep, 2009
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55: ALthough I myself realised and shared experiences from my relatives here in Canada, but flashing this type of news after the survey, it may affect the honest enterpreneurs truing to start buisness outside India. It is true but not so serious and deep rooted, as the govt and officials at least in Canada seems to be quite honest. This is in fact entire Asians who are trying to curruot the system in their buisness deals. I feel vey sad on this news and wish this blame should be washed off.
Posted by: Dr Lokesh Vyas - 24 Sep, 2009
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56: its very bed news. but according to me at the place where correption is 0% people find more diffulties
Posted by: vinod  - 24 Sep, 2009
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57: I strongly condemn on some of your perspectives on usage of words...you need to substitute names of the countries with human beings / individuals....you need to bring out the Companies and individuals concerned on the table and present specific data to the concerned authorities of Government of India for necessary action..

In recent times the corrupt have been penalised and punished by the Government of India....please be specific and bring credible data to the table...amplifying or exagerating unfound data falls short of all governing principles.

Please expose the data you have to the fullest to DVAC department..

We need to change our outlook and behave and look at the nation as one unidivided family.

Call Mr.X or Mrs. or M/s.X as corrupt do not call Indians or Chinese as corrupt..

Please review .

Best Regards,

Arokian
Posted by: Arokian - 24 Sep, 2009
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58:Mr. Arokian, Ghanshyam Ojha is saying right. Even the chief justice of India said that "Corruption has become so high that even god cannot do anything".
 Anil Jain replied to: Arokian 
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59: Our most pious religious litreture GEETA allows us to get our work done through
SAM------Convinsing
DAM------Bribeing
DAND------Presurreing
BHED------Remove if it becomes a obstacle.

BIBLE says God forgives every one so what to fear about it..

QURAN says no mercy no rules while dealing with kaafirs,if you are five time namaazi then nothing to worry.

So its legal man..carry-on Hindusthan Zindabad.

Not to hurt anyone's religious sentiments friends but this is what every corrupt people thinks of.... and hence it can never end....every one today is an opportunist and opportunism is termed as smartness. If you cannot leverage opportunity then you are a big fool. nowadays corruption is taught by parents at home.
People nowadays are not even faith full to their partners to their own family member then how can we hope moral act in place of work or of ethical business.
Posted by: Bivash - 24 Sep, 2009
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60: Corruption has become a fundamental right in fast growing economy. Practical moral and spiritual teaching should be given more importance at at school age.
Posted by: patel s. - 24 Sep, 2009
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61: Not only in abroad... Nice mirror to show the face of corruption.
Posted by: Sen - 24 Sep, 2009
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62:TO WHOM SO EVER IT MAY CONCERN.

NAMASKAR!

According to my knowledge CORRUPTION is not the major problem, people are least bother about such evils! They should STOP Give & Take policy for their self benefits. Than only we can end such evils "CORRUPTION" from root level. In fact you are throwing the STONE into mud, which can returns on YOU! But my humble request, do not step back at any cost. Be sincere in your social efforts and I am sure the winner in your noble TASK.

Your attempt to create awareness among the fellow beings on such grave issue is highly appreciable one day Worldwide and may GOD give you courage to withstand with your future endeavours.

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 ghansham ojah replied to: Sen 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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63: I have read the article & comments in detail. Most of the people are blaming others. I say forget everything. Just STOP giving or TAKING any Bribes, be it Cash or Kind. You may face some delay in getting your work done or at times may be not done at all. I understand it is lot of inconvenience for us individuals. But that is the only solution. Folks...charity begins at home. Say no to corruption NOW.
Posted by: Purshottam - 24 Sep, 2009
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64:Purshottam,
I agree fully this. Every body has to start practice of No Corruption at any personal Sacrifice cost. For this, we have to change mentality of getting fast fruits without Hard work. Live & let Live should be the Concept. Compassion should be there for others. Then one can be self contented in whatever is required. At least, I think, the people above forty should give up some of non required Comforts & practise Noble Behaviour Concepts.
This may change basis of Exploitative social norms & bring some Contented feeling & thereby reduce Corruption or Bhrashtachar.
 Vithal Deshmukh replied to: Purshottam 
 post - 25 Sep, 2009
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65: Recently a reply came from SWISS bank to INDIA that there is total 70,00,000 Crores rupees in swiss bank & they are officially ready to disclose the names but the Indian govt & also opposition is quite on this....as it is all there money only..... & this is all our hard earn money.... all are bloody Currupt..
Posted by: Shrikant Deshpande - 24 Sep, 2009
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66: well to get this kind of note itself is an alram for us/ our society. Unfortunately everybody make this practice even on routine affairs which need to be eliminated from both top to down approach
Posted by: Madan Panchal - 24 Sep, 2009
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67: Its easy to catch a person taking bribes in lower category and it is very much difficult to catch a politician eventhough everybody is aware that most of the politicians are indulged and masters in this particular area, i think rules must be more simple to catch a corrupt politicians than a common servant.
Posted by: Raj shekar - 23 Sep, 2009
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68:Nothing like that. It is as difficult to imprison the local Police Sub Inspector as it is to imprison Sonia Gandhi. But then it is not that creates corruption here. Britian was not corrupt for a long time, not because everybody feared the Vigilence department, but because of a different communiation structure. Now even in Britisn communiation software is changing, and God help Britain!
 Ved from Victoria Institutions replied to: Raj shekar 
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69: This behaviour leads us to imagine about the struggle and suffering Mahatma Gandhi must have undergone.
Posted by: Subhash Patel - 23 Sep, 2009
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70:Do a google search on Gandhi, man!
 Ved from Victoria Institutions replied to: Subhash Patel 
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71: First of all start by yourself..
When you drive the vehicle without license and if you are caught then everybody feels comfortable giving Rs. 100/- as bribe then to officially pay a fine of Rs. 500/-
This is how there are many things which are forcing the corporates to bribe and make there work faster...
it can be ended only through the politians...as they start taking bribes from almost all industries in the state and new projects...
Posted by: Ravi Kiran Bhupathi - 23 Sep, 2009
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72:well saying ravi kiran bhupati but we will find conclusion for this problem.
 ayush replied to: Ravi Kiran Bhupathi 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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73:Well said ...
 Palanisamy replied to: Ravi Kiran Bhupathi 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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74:I very well agree with Mr.Ravi, first look at your back and judge yourself
 N.Ganesh replied to: Ravi Kiran Bhupathi 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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75: When present indian idols are fully drowned in currept practices and no
action is taken against them for years together.It gives a clear massage that we are-----.Our darty politicians have not only spoiled the high ethics of Nation but have given an apademic disease to which we have to bear with for coming generations.
Posted by: radhey shyam sarda - 23 Sep, 2009
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76:Why the blame is on politicians only? Corruption is a trend all over the nation, and the bureacrazy, which accounts for at least a hundred thousand multiple of the politicians are more corrupt. But then, it is just a blame game, for most people here in this nation will not lose a chance to engage in corrupt practises if given the oppurtunity. Even the meritorious student in a college, who debates on national corruption and gets prize for that, the moment he or she gets into the bureaucrazy will be eager to share the loot.
 Ved from Victoria Institutions replied to: radhey shyam sarda 
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77: Change yourself, and then see around world changing too.
Posted by: Avneeta Singh - 23 Sep, 2009
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78:But to change yourself you need to act based upon your environment which is highly corrupted.
 Anil Jain replied to: Avneeta Singh 
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79: Bad boys of Business
Posted by: var - 23 Sep, 2009
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80: It is obvious that, the corruption activities can not be carried out by a single hand. Unless there is no hand to accept there will be no person to receive the bribe, so both the giver and taker are culprits. There is no point in conducting this type of surveys, specifically pointing out the Indian community.
Posted by: M.V.Subba Rao - 23 Sep, 2009
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81: The corruption and corrupt practices are now in the every drop of blood of Indians. It has started with the top brasses. No one is going to root out now. Hence where ever they go , they bring those bad habits with them.
Posted by: Bibekananda Basu - 23 Sep, 2009
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82: The corruption is two sided. If Indian companies are using other means for speeding up business then the means are getting consumed by other stakeholder as well , hence both are responsible or all are responsible. While managing a Project with well know brand abrod as a manager the SPOC was always expecting something or other as I am from vendor side and the SPOC can't move forward without the something. Hence the question is only Indian companies are corrupt or the other as well who promotes, expects and look for ?
Posted by: Uday Bhatt - 23 Sep, 2009
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83:Basically Indians are trained for direct approach for anything. The very training in the schools and society is to use the tactics of links and connections to get a thing done, even if it is thing to do with the local police stataion. Basically, it is a communication problem, and the training therein.
 Ved from Victoria Institutions replied to: Uday Bhatt 
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84: I'm really proud of b'crats who are getting bribe....because "we are very much ready to give that at every opportunity that we get, we never missed the chance :D" Keep our nation on top in these shameful reports. I'm sick, worried.
 Preeti Jain replied to:  Ved from Victoria Institutions 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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85: that is true, to add to that, in India people always learn from others(either good or bad). If 10 people are crossing the traffic Signal red, as a 11 person who knows the rules would also break them. Similarly the case with Bribe. If one benefits by giving bribe and getting the work done anyway, other people will be much interested in doing things that way and moreover people will not abject the way things managed because they're benefiting from that. Its all about the difference between what we learn in the schools versus what we learn from society. I'm not supporting bribing but revealing the reality. I would feel De-centralization of work would speed up and would be less corrupted. Forget abt the politicians as they are exist because of us.
 Dinakar replied to:  Ved from Victoria Institutions 
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86: Wonderful .. what a data collection and what a analysis by NGO. By the way did you try changing the focus groups (regionally, financially, education or job status.. etc.)?

Let's see a few common sense points:
1. Did Bofors Scandal points out something?
2. A recent National Public Radio report says that bribery around the world increases the cost of business by 10-15%. I wonder ... are these people that are involved in act are mainly Indian?
3. a quick check of "Economist" (http://www.economist.com/world/displaystory. cfm?story_id=8401139), CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/04/jeffe rson/), frontline (http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/br ibe/), European weekly (http://www.neurope.eu/articles/95153.php) does not reflect that it is mainly Indians that are responsible.
4. Did our NGO do any cross check to find out what is wrong with world known organizations that appreciates and reward Indians. Let's check out some Publications like, Forbes, Times and others. So let's make sure that Mittals, Tatas, INFOSYS, and such are not the biggest guilty ones.

Corruption is worldwide. It is not good but it is not 100% avoidable. Just like reputed publications, NGOs have a very big responsibility to educate and improve communities. Such reports looks bad on those who have worked hard, gone out of their comfort zone, followed their dream to make their family, country and world a better place to live. I am not suggesting to hide the truth but better do some cross check and have full report. Do not take short cuts in a push to publish SOME reports fast. This seems a survey done by amatures not from highly qualified, educated, and experienced elite lot. Why in the world you are misusing funds to run NGO when you can't attract elite lot to support you.
 Poonam  replied to: Dinakar 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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87: I agree on some points highlighted by Poonam and other friends.
Atually bribe is a two way skill or communication. I feel it is first accepted prior to given. One only gives the bribe when other demands it. Hence acceptor is doing moreevil than one who offers it.
It is only a bias feeling that Indians are most corrupted when managing their busines aboard. Actually if somebody has researched on that then he should also have an indepth analysis of the dishonesty of the people to whom bribe is given by the Indians. If on the other hand it is offered first, then who the takers are?
It is some how phenominal to say that what is corruption or bribe when every body in this world is managing his lfe by give and take.
Thanks
 Abid Gowhar replied to: Poonam 
 post - 27 Sep, 2009
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88: Sri.Moily ,Law minister confesses that corruption can't be removed as long as article 311 of our constitution is amended.Being the 2nd most populous country & increasing population Q for everything is growing & to jump the Q people r resorting to SPEED MONEY which everyone share,businessmen,industrialists,contractors, politicians,media,lawers & the touts.Officially it is not corruption dear.Acts r passed ,rules r made & remade ,constitution gets amended 1000 times creating more loopholes for the lawers to peep & confuse the judges.
 shivaswamy  replied to: Dinakar 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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89: Hello All, in some countries ‘Bribe = Referral Fee’. Kickbacks are every where and they give a legal name to it.
 DST replied to: shivaswamy 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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90: India itself grass routed in corruption.Desabita Mahatma Gandhi & Jawaharlal Nehru Congress fought and liberated India from external aggression and got independance.But after Freedom most of regional Politicians step by step corrupted.Rowdees ,swindlers Criminals entered into Politics step by step and demoralised our Indian ethics ,culture .Politics became earning Industry for regional Politicians.Most of hoarded Black moneys are held with corrupt politicians.Indian judicial system should wake up to this occasion and make a full stop to the spreading corruption in India
Posted by: Genpat - 30 Sep, 2009
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91: I AM AN INDIAN AND AND I SUPPORT HITLER ..EITHER THEIR SHOULD BE PURITY OR JUST WE ALL PEOPLE IN THE WORLD ARE DOING EVERYTHING FOR NOTHING...


WIPE OFF THESE IMPURE RACES.. EVEN ME...
Posted by: GAURAV KOHLI - 29 Sep, 2009
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92: corruption is an important thing to be considered for the development of our country. but TII should survey quering the employees. then TII will realise how many executives are corrupting.so this becomes a tom and jerry fight.. why cant you take a survey of the factors regarding backlog of our country and asking suggestions for betterment of INDIA from public.
Posted by: sundara bharathi - 27 Sep, 2009
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93:this is the proof of follwoing things.

1. Indians are making progress
2. the world is jelous of Indians
3. Indians are soft targets for asking undue favours like bribes
4. Indians are smart and caring.
 savikant sharma replied to: sundara bharathi 
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94: actually brush up your mind set. The environment you have been brought in make you think in that way. Why can't you conduct survey for the successful indians around the world. why can't you spread the true success to all. Let have make and create a good environment by talking good, thingking good, doing good, encouraging good, and spreading good news. Then everyone will be in the environment which looks good. So, everyone will start thinking good.
Posted by: Vuddagiri Bhanojirao - 27 Sep, 2009
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95: With my 3½ decades of experience includes few years service in Overseas Countries, I know, still in China some of the MNCs from Europe are looking for Indians to lead their operation in China, keeping more confidence on Indians (TII please note). In my experience as a Top Executive in overseas Countries, I observed Indians have made corruptive, only by some of our Business Firms (includes leading companies) with their unethic way of Business practice & very bad treatment of their own employees, by not paying their even regular dues in India and also in their overseas operation. I suggest TII to go further in details to bring out the facts. But, I can confidently say Indian Employees are far better than other Asian Countries, includes China, where i found we can buy even court cases & people
Posted by: Siva - 27 Sep, 2009
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96: One cannot stop appreciating the integrity with which such grandscale organized crime happens and that too at international level. Wow now the epidemic is spreading across the globe just exactly like swine flu is. Let us build India again, as the Rome was ""in a day""
Posted by: Elite Venkat - 27 Sep, 2009
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97: Instead of Blaming, its good, to make things better. Overtake these things create new India without corruption, Bribes , what other countries is doing let it be, don't compare with them. Discuss only the good things. So that we can follow.
Posted by: Sanoj Nambiar - 26 Sep, 2009
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98:can have voice to explain what is the good in corruption,

go to Gvt sector or corporation sector or pvt sector you will get more than 90% of people are corrupted and work/project done by them can you belive what is going on in our country

those people who have nothing to give,can you pay instead of them,

"first thing and then replay"

you are a child,you don't know any thing.
 alan chacko replied to: Sanoj Nambiar 
 post - 27 Sep, 2009
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99: ur the one among them and ur thinking like a govt employee ur thinking is wat left u wr we r we have to move for tht thr should b a solution the anser above is a kind of solution urs is a a thing thts not a soution but just a worry ,ur not movin forward
we need progress not stagnation
for tht i appreciate sanoj
 arun replied to:  alan chacko 
 post - 27 Sep, 2009
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100: TII must be a Indian Organisation. Indians are good in saying bad about them. Another exampleis "Slumdong movie"
This is the reason they are getting beatenup everywhere.
Posted by: pvqqwk - 25 Sep, 2009
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101: TII should submit the reports for other countries as well
Posted by: zahoor - 25 Sep, 2009
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102: I think TII need to look out the current market situation and Why the only blaim to Indians? In All Countries Corrupted People are present and What About TII's Report for other countries? please send me other countries reports.
Posted by: jemin - 25 Sep, 2009
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103:You are saying this because it is about India. And what about TII's report about Pakistan? Is this also id@iot?
 Mohsin Ali (Pakistan) replied to: Gotham 
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104:Obviously
 AKA replied to: Gotham 
 post - 24 Sep, 2009
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105: Working in the US for the past 3 years, have found that local officials especially in the corporate sector are as corrupt as in any other part of the world. Its just like a viral disease and it only be controlled.
We Indians like battering each other but do not want to take a step or put an effort in cleaning it up.
Remember, the US financial system, the stock market and the corrupt people sitting there as well as in their government have accumilated a 10 trillion dollar loan, a corruption level which we Indians cannot even dream of.
Be happy, and first take pride in your nation, good things will follow !
 Gotham replied to:  Mohsin Ali (Pakistan) 
 post - 27 Sep, 2009
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106: This s what actually happens when India is been associated with bad names as in corruption or bribes.People including me want to talk about Pakistans corruption status.I am not blaming anyone but yes,It would be rather helpful for our generation and the ones to come if we think on why is all this happening?And what we can contribute?Common people what are we doing?Are we actually helping our country in anyways?Or are we just making a fool out of us by typing so many things which is not goin to help in any way.We are responsible for this.Accept it.
 raghav replied to:  AKA 
 post - 27 Sep, 2009
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107: Younger brother Pakistan has become real big brother of India in this aspect.After all blood is thicker than water.
 shivaswamy replied to:  Mohsin Ali (Pakistan) 
 post - 27 Sep, 2009
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