Indians are over committed, reluctant to differ
Brussels: Business executives in Europe feel Indians display a reluctance to disagree, a tendency to over-commit and a lack of transparency in sharing information. A new survey conducted by outsourcing advisory firm Quantum Step reveals that in Continental Europe, India's attitude towards caste and gender issues impact India's position as a global business center.

Quantum Step surveyed 35 top companies across Europe, asking them to discuss the barriers they felt existed in doing business with Indian outsourcing firms, reports Business Standard. Companies in the Nordic region pointed out the "awkwardness" with which Indian men interacted with women. "Often, the Indian teams that are sent to make a sales pitch, don't include even a single woman," says Sridhar Vedala, Quantum Step's Managing Director. "But the people they are pitching to are commonly women."
Another complaint listed was the difference in the way Indians were perceived to behave towards their European clients and towards their own Indian subordinates. A final point made had to do with the perception that Indians working onshore in Europe made little attempt to integrate with local employees, preferring instead to socialise and live with other Indians. But despite these findings, Vedala insists that Continental Europe is gradually opening up to do business with Indian outsourcing companies. "There is already significant activity in the Benelux (Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg) region, as well as in Germany," he says.
Quantum Step surveyed 35 top companies across Europe, asking them to discuss the barriers they felt existed in doing business with Indian outsourcing firms, reports Business Standard. Companies in the Nordic region pointed out the "awkwardness" with which Indian men interacted with women. "Often, the Indian teams that are sent to make a sales pitch, don't include even a single woman," says Sridhar Vedala, Quantum Step's Managing Director. "But the people they are pitching to are commonly women."
Another complaint listed was the difference in the way Indians were perceived to behave towards their European clients and towards their own Indian subordinates. A final point made had to do with the perception that Indians working onshore in Europe made little attempt to integrate with local employees, preferring instead to socialise and live with other Indians. But despite these findings, Vedala insists that Continental Europe is gradually opening up to do business with Indian outsourcing companies. "There is already significant activity in the Benelux (Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg) region, as well as in Germany," he says.
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Reader's comments (60)
1: This is just a decade or two we have started
as a global Indian. Problem of attitude
towards women lies in Indian social life.
However I don't think Indians feel awkward
while interacting with women. In overseas
countries men & women are extra friendly.
Indians will take some time to adjust with
this kind of culture. However I am a strong
believer of Indian culture. I would
certainlly not like to have social problems
arised out of this "extra friendlyness in
western countries". But while dealing with
overseas clients, would like to go with the
saying…”when you are in Rome be
Roman”…:)
Posted by: Abhijit - 11 Feb, 2010
2: its a pure bill-shit to make such comments on
Indian Businessmen. I strong feel that all
these allegations are a pure deliberate
effort with a jealous on India as we are
growing much faster (Just look at Obama's
statements on Asian countries off-late). It
is the policy of european countries to
encourage racism and attack on Indian's for
no reasons. There are several incidents which
were proven too and you guys are teaching us
that we do show discrimination. Please
understand that NO OTHER COUNTRY IN THIS
WORLD RESPECTS WOMEN AS WE DO IN OUR COUNTRY.
Posted by: Anand Akkenapalli - 10 Feb, 2010
3:Anand You are talking about the respect given
to women. dont you even dare to talk about
things which you never follow in your life
Rohan replied to: Anand Akkenapalli
post - 06 Apr, 2010
post - 06 Apr, 2010
4:I totaly, agree with this statement. Racism
should be eradicated. Governement should take
measures on such anti social statments.
Gobalisation should be the primary target of
every human on earth.
vinay replied to: Anand Akkenapalli
post - 28 Feb, 2010
post - 28 Feb, 2010
5: Why so much talks about India, why not talk
about Germans, British, polish and so on.
Every country has its Issues, problems. I can say things like most Europeans drink regularly, have a not-so-serious attitude towards work, from an Indian, Chinese, even American perspective.They gets very easily harassed.
Very limited adaptation skills.
so lets talk about real problems. OK Indians are over committed, this is a compliment, not a problem. Reluctant to differ, this is a problem, which can be fixed through discipline in the process.I don't want to talk about women, Its a controversial thing.Indians not so good attitude towards their peer Indians, that's because Indians self valuation is very low, not to be blames individually.Historically we are in a growing phase as a country, slowly this will get fixed over time.
Thats all from me for now
Every country has its Issues, problems. I can say things like most Europeans drink regularly, have a not-so-serious attitude towards work, from an Indian, Chinese, even American perspective.They gets very easily harassed.
Very limited adaptation skills.
so lets talk about real problems. OK Indians are over committed, this is a compliment, not a problem. Reluctant to differ, this is a problem, which can be fixed through discipline in the process.I don't want to talk about women, Its a controversial thing.Indians not so good attitude towards their peer Indians, that's because Indians self valuation is very low, not to be blames individually.Historically we are in a growing phase as a country, slowly this will get fixed over time.
Thats all from me for now
Posted by: PersonallyIamahuman - 10 Feb, 2010
6: we are not full integrated inside the
country... how can someone expect us to be
integrated outside the counrty? We have so
many issues like reginal ..religion..
castes.. on women... ..
Posted by: Ram K Maddela - 09 Feb, 2010
7:That's a very lame excuse,forget
sex(color,ethnicity also),politics and
caste.Then things will fall into the right
place.
Ashique S replied to: Ram K Maddela
post - 09 Feb, 2010
post - 09 Feb, 2010
8: almost half of the indian women in india
cannot read and write, what do you expect!
zwinmimi replied to: Ashique S
post - 09 Feb, 2010
post - 09 Feb, 2010
9: The above statement is applicable for india
or indian women in 1970's or 80's but
absolutly not now. Indian women posses good
analytical skills and they do have knowledge
and can compeet with men of any nation. They
are doing well in most of the firms and
scored merits. May be indian women are
emotional and sensitive but they have
capability of performing deeds well.
vinay replied to: zwinmimi
post - 28 Feb, 2010
post - 28 Feb, 2010
10: well check the stats and also put in the
stats like against which % of men are
litrate!
Girls in india are going to schools though still at some places mentality is backward but things are changing!
also check the status on child molestation, rape of girls by own family members, Sexual Harracement!
India is still in a far better condition.
Girls in india are going to schools though still at some places mentality is backward but things are changing!
also check the status on child molestation, rape of girls by own family members, Sexual Harracement!
India is still in a far better condition.
Rohit Pahalwan replied to: zwinmimi
post - 15 Feb, 2010
post - 15 Feb, 2010
11: Until we can integrate fully into the global
arena, we can't call ourselves truly global.
I posted a blog on this topic here on this
network. You can read my blog
here:http://www.siliconindia.com/blogs/blogs_
new.php?xLYH7FQ3vSUr7mD0H7hs8zH815pO24s7
Posted by: Dr. Krishna Kumari Challa - 08 Feb, 2010
12:You are right.. Indians can fight well ..like
civil wars going in Mumbai or Hyderabad or UP
etc... We are not integrated.. we'll never be
integrated ... because .. we have so many
differences and every human who born in India
is politically corrupt ..or they are well
aware of politics like me.. they do
everything or anything for money... that is
the reason we are respecting foreigners
Ram Reddy Challa replied to: Dr. Krishna Kumari Challa
post - 09 Feb, 2010
post - 09 Feb, 2010
13: This is contradiction. Indians fight ro
survive. Taking things either way always give
a negetive meaning. They work for themselves
and there families. but to detray any other.
vinay replied to: Ram Reddy Challa
post - 28 Feb, 2010
post - 28 Feb, 2010
14: yes mr. krishna i do accept your argument. do
you think that there is no corruptions in
foreign countries.....
sat replied to: Ram Reddy Challa
post - 10 Feb, 2010
post - 10 Feb, 2010
15: Indian is a peace loving nation and you
cannot comment anything about india's
integrity. Which country in this world has
such a diverse profile and if any how many of
them have sustained it? Fights and all the
things that you guys are talking about
happens in any family and india as a family
is no exception. We have differences and we
resolve them time to time.
vinay mittal replied to: Ram Reddy Challa
post - 09 Feb, 2010
post - 09 Feb, 2010
16: This might be how Indians are. Cultures will
adapt to each other with time and new issues
will come up. This is how human race
progresses through time. Indians are biggest
self-critiqus: Lets not go into reasons, just
observe, change whatever we can for better,
if we cannot, just enjoy.
Posted by: Amit - 08 Feb, 2010
17:our system is corrupt...there wont be any
progression... they are not only self
critics... very corrupt and they cannot bare
if someone is doing good.. like Mumbai
Thakres and Hyderabad KCR etc...Bihar &
UP people they beaten up south indian who
came to take the Railway Recruitment Exam..
It was not the case after imm Indepenece
..after 50 years of Independence.. they still
watch international TV... Indian expect
Australions to not to show their racism...
but we are bloody racists and castists and
regionalist..etc
Ram Reddy Challa replied to: Amit
post - 09 Feb, 2010
post - 09 Feb, 2010
18: I for one is also eager to know what a survey
on western couterparts will come up with. :)
- Nisha (iITPRO.NET)
Posted by: Nisha - 08 Feb, 2010
19:This statement is absolutly correct. Why did
'Quantum Step' survey the other part of the
world. If they did, they will know for
themself the loop holes involved in there
system.
vinay replied to: Nisha
post - 28 Feb, 2010
post - 28 Feb, 2010
20: India is in for the Marathon and not a
Sprinter when it comes to changes! The point
is - is it queuing to get to the Starting
Line!
Posted by: Jayachandra - 08 Feb, 2010
21: The reaction to this article sort of
validates the article. There is nothing new
in the article, these observations have been
made in the past and many companies are
sensitizing executives towards this. However
it is difficult to change overnight patterns
depply ingrained in the Indain psyche.
On the otherhand there are many European companies who want to do business in India learning about Indian behavioral patterns in order to effectively deal with us.
On the otherhand there are many European companies who want to do business in India learning about Indian behavioral patterns in order to effectively deal with us.
Posted by: Alex - 08 Feb, 2010
22:Absolutely.
OneOpinion replied to: Alex
post - 08 Feb, 2010
post - 08 Feb, 2010
23: Whats sort of title is that... it dosent go
with the contents... guess the author is too
much into reality show.
Quantum Steps tried to identify the business barriers in doing business - Instead of listing the barriers and the solution to overcome it, looks like topic got side tracked to some individuals frustration.
I am wondering why sales pitch is attracted towards women - all u want is talented people either men or women should not be a concern.
Socialization with office colleagues and indians is not suffecient enough... what more is expected - spent 24*7 with client and go vacation with them...
Quantum Steps tried to identify the business barriers in doing business - Instead of listing the barriers and the solution to overcome it, looks like topic got side tracked to some individuals frustration.
I am wondering why sales pitch is attracted towards women - all u want is talented people either men or women should not be a concern.
Socialization with office colleagues and indians is not suffecient enough... what more is expected - spent 24*7 with client and go vacation with them...
Posted by: Amir - 08 Feb, 2010
24:The title is absolutely on target. Quantum
Steps was asked to conduct a survey, not
produce a White Paper on Male Indian antics.
As for Indian women, they, from my perspective, seem to be more advanced in the fields of Applied Intelligence, honesty in the workplace, collaboration with their colleagues and have the innate ability to easily form friendships witohut giving up their integrity.
I cannot say the same for the men. When they come here on their H1 visas, they only have one thing in mind.....making money and to hell with social norms, advancement of their standard of living or effective interaction and exchange of ideas. They are, as this article points out..."reluctant to disagree". And why should they want to disagree when they can more easily agree and pocket the money because after all, sooner and later they will be returning to India, loaded with cash.
So the formula is: just do the job, do what you are told, take the money and return home richer than you ever could in India.
As for Indian women, they, from my perspective, seem to be more advanced in the fields of Applied Intelligence, honesty in the workplace, collaboration with their colleagues and have the innate ability to easily form friendships witohut giving up their integrity.
I cannot say the same for the men. When they come here on their H1 visas, they only have one thing in mind.....making money and to hell with social norms, advancement of their standard of living or effective interaction and exchange of ideas. They are, as this article points out..."reluctant to disagree". And why should they want to disagree when they can more easily agree and pocket the money because after all, sooner and later they will be returning to India, loaded with cash.
So the formula is: just do the job, do what you are told, take the money and return home richer than you ever could in India.
OneOpinion replied to: Amir
post - 08 Feb, 2010
post - 08 Feb, 2010
25: Well written well observed this news is 100%
correct and it is a clerical mentality which
shows a tendency not open to new ideas and
not good for science. Even if there are few
who are not in this category there is a whole
universe of frog mentality in India who will
pull others back. Added to this Indian women
work force make it more worse. Indian HR is
the worst in the world there are just ducks
sitting there. After I came back from working
overseas I see that most of the high rank
officials in India just donot work they sit
there doing nothing and girls are even worse
just have drink parties and dance and talk
all rubbish.
Posted by: dennis - 08 Feb, 2010
26:This is a boneless statement. It doesnt have
any clue for iteself. Indian market is
growing not because of some calfs. they are
moving up just because of the skills and
strategy they put in practice make this
imporvement happen.
vinay replied to: dennis
post - 28 Feb, 2010
post - 28 Feb, 2010
27: "..........Indians display a reluctance to
disagree, a tendency to over-commit and a
lack of transparency in sharing information".
These are the classic characteristics of congenitally clerical minds. Indians will always be the world's best clerks.
These are the classic characteristics of congenitally clerical minds. Indians will always be the world's best clerks.
Posted by: OneOpinion - 08 Feb, 2010
28:That's quite a derrogatory remark. Whatever
nationality one belongs to you will notice
that each one relates oneself better to their
own circle with similar habbits and cultural
background. From there to catagorise INDIANS
not being social amongst the locals of the
country they live in is A PRETTY MEAN
ANALYSIS. I've been living in France for more
than 3 decades and i don't see an ounce of
truth in the above article...be it with me or
all Indian's settled (living here
permanently/ on short visit). In fact it's
pretty difficulty to even have an all Indian
evening because until this day nobody even
thinks in that direction. I have a very
strong feeling that we Indian's criticise
ourselves a little too easily ... a colonised
legacy?
anjan replied to: OneOpinion
post - 08 Feb, 2010
post - 08 Feb, 2010
29: Be Objective, Think Objective, Live
Objective. I have lived overseas for 40 years
and there is an overwhelming truth that this
article underscores. When an Objective remark
is taken as derogatory, it stunts growth and
impedes progress.
If you want to play in the international arena, start thinking with an international mindset. It's illogical to expect the rest of the world to accept third-world countries as they are, clutural differences not withstanding. If you want to play, then get with the program or suffer the indignities of avoidance and the "joys" of being ignored and left to your own way of life.
If you want to play in the international arena, start thinking with an international mindset. It's illogical to expect the rest of the world to accept third-world countries as they are, clutural differences not withstanding. If you want to play, then get with the program or suffer the indignities of avoidance and the "joys" of being ignored and left to your own way of life.
OneOpinion replied to: anjan
post - 08 Feb, 2010
post - 08 Feb, 2010
30:
The article is not derogatory and to some extent quite true. In any case, it is an opinion of people surveyed. But ...
"Indians will be always world's best clerks" - this is definitely derogatory and factually incorrect. Indians have proven themselves in many fields, whether it is science & technology or business. The world over, you will find Indians in all kinds of jobs, but rarely a clerk job.
Most eastern cultures are hierarchical and disagreeing with seniors or people in authority is considered not good, and this reflects in the behavior of Indians with their western clients/executives. Rather than understanding the role of cultural differences of East/West in the survey results, and taking steps/training to counter balance its effects, you answer seems to be that Indians are good clerks - that too "always"!
The article is not derogatory and to some extent quite true. In any case, it is an opinion of people surveyed. But ...
"Indians will be always world's best clerks" - this is definitely derogatory and factually incorrect. Indians have proven themselves in many fields, whether it is science & technology or business. The world over, you will find Indians in all kinds of jobs, but rarely a clerk job.
Most eastern cultures are hierarchical and disagreeing with seniors or people in authority is considered not good, and this reflects in the behavior of Indians with their western clients/executives. Rather than understanding the role of cultural differences of East/West in the survey results, and taking steps/training to counter balance its effects, you answer seems to be that Indians are good clerks - that too "always"!
Sudhir replied to: OneOpinion
post - 08 Feb, 2010
post - 08 Feb, 2010
31: Yes, "always". Refer to my other posts (above
and below) for a holistical view on Indian
males.
OneOpinion replied to: Sudhir
post - 08 Feb, 2010
post - 08 Feb, 2010
32:And here's another favorite of mine:
".....Indians working onshore in Europe made
little attempt to integrate with local
employees, preferring instead to socialise
and live with other Indians".
This attitude is so glaringly apparent, it's not funny. About 7 or 8 male Indians falling out of a Toyota Corolla is a common sight in the West. Another common trait is seeing an Indian family stepping out of a Mercedes Benz, decked out in gold and silver Indian saris and their men in suits (for some reason), shopping the hell out of WalMart.
As for "....the "awkwardness" with which Indian men interacted with women", is legendary in its own right. I have come across many Indian women who could leave the best Indian male technical minds in the dust, but they have had to take subservient positions when Indian men were around. The women seemed more advanced and modernized in their views and in their interactions with their Western colleagues. I myself would be kind in using the word "awkward" to describe the interactions between Indian men and Western women. Let me say this: They don't have a clue, not a damn clue and Indian actors by the way, epitomize the clueless Indian male.
This attitude is so glaringly apparent, it's not funny. About 7 or 8 male Indians falling out of a Toyota Corolla is a common sight in the West. Another common trait is seeing an Indian family stepping out of a Mercedes Benz, decked out in gold and silver Indian saris and their men in suits (for some reason), shopping the hell out of WalMart.
As for "....the "awkwardness" with which Indian men interacted with women", is legendary in its own right. I have come across many Indian women who could leave the best Indian male technical minds in the dust, but they have had to take subservient positions when Indian men were around. The women seemed more advanced and modernized in their views and in their interactions with their Western colleagues. I myself would be kind in using the word "awkward" to describe the interactions between Indian men and Western women. Let me say this: They don't have a clue, not a damn clue and Indian actors by the way, epitomize the clueless Indian male.
OneOpinion replied to: OneOpinion
post - 08 Feb, 2010
post - 08 Feb, 2010
33: well whoever you are OneOpinion let me give u
this straight, its a free world if u dare to
be urself u can win the world, "do as the
romans do" so u want to tell us we shuld kill
humans if we land into iraq? u are putting
baseless talks , you are putting in ur
experiences and frustrations in here thats
what u are doing!
Rohit Pahalwan replied to: OneOpinion
post - 15 Feb, 2010
post - 15 Feb, 2010
34: Why blame the respondents alone? The
questions were asked by quantum step, and the
guy PR-ing is an indian.
If the questions are narrow, so will be the answers.
I dont know about the behaviours being discussed here and their ubiquitousness, but this is damn good PR.
If the questions are narrow, so will be the answers.
I dont know about the behaviours being discussed here and their ubiquitousness, but this is damn good PR.
Posted by: Raj - 08 Feb, 2010
35: I have a counter question for you. Did you
check how many westners are willing to change
their attitude towards Indians like learning
to pronounce Indian names, Learn Indian
festivals, etc. I can list more. Do you have
guts to ask them about these issues.
Posted by: Srinivasa Varrey - 08 Feb, 2010
36:You are playing in their theatre, they are
not playing in yours. So learn to adapt their
ways if you want to compete. Those interested
in the Indian way of life visit India to
research and investigate. You should do the
same when you are there.
OneOpinion replied to: Srinivasa Varrey
post - 08 Feb, 2010
post - 08 Feb, 2010
37: so what? business is business nd social
interaction is something else. Why shouldn't
Indians doing business in Europe socialize
with their own kind, as they have several
things in common, cultural, social, culinary,
...
And what does " in Continental Europe, India's attitude towards caste and gender issues impact India's position " mean? How does caste creep in Continental Europe? It seems to me that this is a reflexive rehashing of tired old cliches.
And what does " in Continental Europe, India's attitude towards caste and gender issues impact India's position " mean? How does caste creep in Continental Europe? It seems to me that this is a reflexive rehashing of tired old cliches.
Posted by: Krishna - 08 Feb, 2010
38:You don't seem to get it, so let me put it
more simply: "When in Rome, do as the Romans
do". This may be the first time you've heard
this proverb.
When you visit a country that's not yours, you are expected to participate and blend in.....not stand out like a sore thumb.
When you visit a country that's not yours, you are expected to participate and blend in.....not stand out like a sore thumb.
OneOpinion replied to: Krishna
post - 08 Feb, 2010
post - 08 Feb, 2010
39: Well first of all why is every post on this
site showing frustrations only with
Indians?
What you got "Banglored" or what?
Oh! Indians are brown, Indian employees are curry munchers! Indian mens flirt with women!( Wtf! shuld they flirt with men then?), are Indians from Mars and Europeans from Venus?... blah! blah! blah! wth!
You need cheap Indian slaves to work like Dogs for you!
So u can cut ur costs and then at the time of need, kick them out right in the first place!
No one aint helping us by doing business with us, or hiring our ppl! They are doing it to squeeze more profits!
I`ve been watching these posts on your site lately many i suspect many are just for cheap publicity and Misleading!
Who knows in your madness you people may post few more posts like,"why not atack India?","Indians should be burned alive!","Peal off skins of these Brownys!"
Guys!
There is something very serious about you all! You all need a psychiatrist!
Dont preach some Sh*t to people! Broaden your view!
i have got a survey for the writer too...
In a Survey Conducted by me including 4 Employees of Top 4 Indian Companies proved you are 60% a F*g and 40% a Normal Being!
Well! that should provide an answer to Validity of your so called Management research about Indians going here!
What you got "Banglored" or what?
Oh! Indians are brown, Indian employees are curry munchers! Indian mens flirt with women!( Wtf! shuld they flirt with men then?), are Indians from Mars and Europeans from Venus?... blah! blah! blah! wth!
You need cheap Indian slaves to work like Dogs for you!
So u can cut ur costs and then at the time of need, kick them out right in the first place!
No one aint helping us by doing business with us, or hiring our ppl! They are doing it to squeeze more profits!
I`ve been watching these posts on your site lately many i suspect many are just for cheap publicity and Misleading!
Who knows in your madness you people may post few more posts like,"why not atack India?","Indians should be burned alive!","Peal off skins of these Brownys!"
Guys!
There is something very serious about you all! You all need a psychiatrist!
Dont preach some Sh*t to people! Broaden your view!
i have got a survey for the writer too...
In a Survey Conducted by me including 4 Employees of Top 4 Indian Companies proved you are 60% a F*g and 40% a Normal Being!
Well! that should provide an answer to Validity of your so called Management research about Indians going here!
Posted by: Rohit Pahalwan - 08 Feb, 2010
40:"Indian mens flirt with women!". If they do
then that would be a step forward. But that's
wishful thinking. And if you mean, Western
women......dream on.
OneOpinion replied to: Rohit Pahalwan
post - 08 Feb, 2010
post - 08 Feb, 2010
41: Europeans and Americans think they are
rightful in judging others. At the same time,
if someone judges them, they cannot take it.
Living in US over 15 years, I observe
constantly this. They ridicule at Indians
pronouncing western names but do not feel bad
at all butchering Indian names. If we try to
correct it, they feel ashamed.
They openly ridicule arranged marriages. At the same time if we comment about divorce rate in US, they shy way from it.
They openly ridicule arranged marriages. At the same time if we comment about divorce rate in US, they shy way from it.
Posted by: Krish Kura - 08 Feb, 2010
42:Again.....you are on THEIR turf and in THEIR
theatre. Stay on if you like it and enjoy the
show, or else.......leave and return to
India. Simple.
Take for example Richard Greer kissing the Indian actress and that on the cheek. Male Indian hypocrites launch a riot against both individuals. And Why? Because it was against Indian norms. In this instance Richard Greer was on your turf and expected to heed albeit hypocritical Indian social customs. And when he didn't guys like you had a field day.
Take for example Richard Greer kissing the Indian actress and that on the cheek. Male Indian hypocrites launch a riot against both individuals. And Why? Because it was against Indian norms. In this instance Richard Greer was on your turf and expected to heed albeit hypocritical Indian social customs. And when he didn't guys like you had a field day.
OneOpinion replied to: Krish Kura
post - 08 Feb, 2010
post - 08 Feb, 2010
43: When they can't ignore Indians, they start
judging them. Cheap! Every human comes with a
backlog of his culture,and Indians are not
exceptions. These westerners should look
inside themselves first before pointing
towards others.
Posted by: Motion - 08 Feb, 2010
44:"When they can't ignore Indians, they start
judging them". Trust me.......they can and
they do.
OneOpinion replied to: Motion
post - 08 Feb, 2010
post - 08 Feb, 2010
45: Off the lines-Between the lines!
"Often, the Indian teams that are sent to make a sales pitch, don't include even a single woman..." So that is the basic problem!
And even if those are so included they...
"made little attempt to integrate with local employees, preferring instead to socialise and live with other Indians."
Ha! Ha ! Ha!
"Often, the Indian teams that are sent to make a sales pitch, don't include even a single woman..." So that is the basic problem!
And even if those are so included they...
"made little attempt to integrate with local employees, preferring instead to socialise and live with other Indians."
Ha! Ha ! Ha!
Posted by: Suhas - 08 Feb, 2010
46:lol very nice Suhas! You got them! lol!
I think the writer lost his last job coz of an Indian!
or probably his Wife/Daughter to an Indian.
I think the writer lost his last job coz of an Indian!
or probably his Wife/Daughter to an Indian.
Rohit Pahalwan replied to: Suhas
post - 08 Feb, 2010
post - 08 Feb, 2010
47:I am indian have been staying in Germany past
12 years and i can tell you the same about
Germany, also most of Germanies have problems
speaking with english even if they know
overall its a culture thing and human nature
why single out only us Indians
Younus replied to: Suhas
post - 08 Feb, 2010
post - 08 Feb, 2010
48: This trait can also either be called as
ghulami mentality or inferiority complex...
Posted by: Gautam Bardoloi - 08 Feb, 2010
49:Very Well said :-) I can see every where in
all Indian organizations from top to bottom.
Pravs replied to: Gautam Bardoloi
post - 08 Feb, 2010
post - 08 Feb, 2010
50: Indian businesses expect employees to behave
so, hence the trait. But if it gets the work
done, so should it matter much?
Posted by: SPG - 08 Feb, 2010
51: Even if the Europeans say that Indians dont
mix up in the community, I would say they
dont leave a choice, if you go to a get
togather, you would see after the initial
hellos they will switch to their language and
you will be stranded or else they would like
to know how poor India is. Over the lunch
they will make judgment on you based on what
anf how much you eat. I read a comment below
regarding fake taxi bills and stuff, well
that is because most of the Indian companies
who send them on delegation would not give
them sufficent funds to go even for a decent
lunch, how would you expect the poor fellow
to meet his needs. As for transperancy I have
worked for last 10 years in european
companies and I felt they are more restrained
in sharing information, because they dont
trust Indians as such.
Posted by: Kushal - 08 Feb, 2010
52: I am in Indian and have been overseas so many
times talking to clients and being in
meetings that have included many women. I
dont want to totally disagree with what is
said above. There is culture factor however,
the sample size is too less to compare
against all the work that is being outsourced
to India. Many people from overseas have been
very happy to work with me, and yes those
include Women too :)In fact many have
prefered to talk to me on business than with
my counterparts based overseas. Its the
language that you communicate in that matters
(by this I dont mean English, German French
or any other one). The language here means
how do you handle the situation and what is
the communication level.
Posted by: Victoriakumar - 08 Feb, 2010
53: All these problems are due to the medieval
bureocracy and the kind of politics it
promotes. we need to have a better form
government which does what it says....
Posted by: aman - 07 Feb, 2010
54:Blaming govt for everything is not correct.
Here they have scrutinized Indians, but once
start doing the same with other country
employees, u'll find the same results there
again.
Rahul replied to: aman
post - 08 Feb, 2010
post - 08 Feb, 2010
55: I have witnessed these aspects of Indian
several times, in US. Many outsource
employees do wearied things at client place.
For example asking cab drivers extra bill,
refusing welcome lunch at client place and
preferring eating POLIOGREY alone instead,
not being professionally dressed, talking
loudly in the office, being a yes man of
reporting manager at client place
Organizations should sensitize employees on the cultural and professional aspect before sending them onsite. That applies to even reputed IT companies in India.
Organizations should sensitize employees on the cultural and professional aspect before sending them onsite. That applies to even reputed IT companies in India.
Posted by: SMR - 07 Feb, 2010
56: I believe that same applies to US and Europe
also. For last 6 years, I am working as a
Transfer Pricing Consultant to lot of MNEs
operating in India. When it comes to getting
information about business from Parent
Company or other group companies operating in
US or Europe, we feel it is really a tough
task to get information from them.
Posted by: Gaurav Garg - 07 Feb, 2010
57: suggest that the survey done the other way to
see the perception from India outward...
Also caste is something that we don't even think, surprising to see the comment...
35 companies a smaller sample to say this... however India based business is the order of the day for any country...
Also caste is something that we don't even think, surprising to see the comment...
35 companies a smaller sample to say this... however India based business is the order of the day for any country...
Posted by: GR Reddy - Husys HR Function Outsourcing - 07 Feb, 2010
58: I am not sure about the over committed part
but i do feel that Indians are skeptical and
do not easily differ.
Posted by: Ameya - 07 Feb, 2010
59:I do feel the same. The Europeans especially
Germans do not share information so
easily...So we can not say that this is
problem with only Indians. Its applicable to
all.
Rajib replied to: Ameya
post - 07 Feb, 2010
post - 07 Feb, 2010
60: rightly said rajib....have been staying in
germany for past 3 years...and i can tell you
the same about germans....dont mix up pretty
easily....dont disclose info as
easily......also most of europeans have
problems speaking with english even if they
know.....overall its a culture thing and
human nature...why single out only us indians
manoj replied to: Rajib
post - 08 Feb, 2010
post - 08 Feb, 2010
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