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Indian researcher shows faults in EVMs, gets arrested
By SiliconIndia | Monday, 23 August 2010, 03:14 Hrs |
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As per the reports Prasad was questioned Saturday morning at his home in Hyderabad by authorities who wanted to know the identity of the source who gave the voting machine to the research team. Prasad was ultimately arrested and taken to Mumbai, though reportedly hadn't been charged with a crime.
In 2009, the commission publicly challenged Prasad to show that India's voting machines could be compromised, but refused to give him access to the machines to perform a review. Earlier this year, an anonymous source provided an Indian voting machine to a research team led by Prasad, The team exposed security flaws that could allow an attacker to change election results and compromise ballot secrecy. They published a paper detailing their findings.
The Election Commission of India should have given researchers access to the voting machines in the first place. Prasad is a respected researcher who helped to discover a critical flaw in India's voting system. He and his fellow researchers would never have been able to document the weaknesses in India's voting machines without the help of their anonymous source. This is precisely why anonymity is important: it allows people to make important contributions to the public dialogue without fear of retribution.
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Posted by:pregnancy-symptoms
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The Indian EVM's in its present form are not in tune with the I.T Act 2000 because as per the Act the EVMs must generate a paper receipt. Without voter verifiable trail these machines are not trust worthy because they violate the Law. Ajay Jagga
Posted by:Ajay Jagga
- 15 Oct, 2010
4:
Read this to know why and who join hands with Hariprasad and Alex.
http://ourtelangana.com/content/telangana-puts-check-election-commissions-stubborn-attitude-using-evms
http://ourtelangana.com/content/telangana-puts-check-election-commissions-stubborn-attitude-using-evms
Posted by:Bharatiya
- 31 Aug, 2010
5:
Dear Editor and Readers:
1.Govt of India has nothing to do with arrest of Mr Hari Prsad ,Election commission is independant of the government in power.
2.If Mr Hari Prasad has genuine concerns he should have taken an appointment with Election Commissioner and demonstarted the same to them first instead of going on a tv live.
3.What has happened is a correct step ,,Imagine someone in Australia,,uk,,usa making a duplicate machine ,,or even accessing such a machine ,,be it a bank ATM or scanning device going live on TV talking about how it can be hacked ,,iam sure police here will step in right the middle of show and arrest him,,becuase you are accessing a devicve that is their property and demonstrating about hacking it.
4.I have watched Hariprasd and election officials on the TV live and I can say for sure the election officials challenged him about hacking ,,as hacking involves using a device to access another device
5.All the people posting about Govt robbers etc is unneccasry tirade as I have told Election Commission is independant og govt in power,,it has its own commissioner and officials.
6.Electronics engineers from E.C.I.L a public sector comapny have developed the device I do not think they are congress or BJP OR any other party they are normal patriotic indians who want transparency in the process and make it easier for people of india to vote.
7.there are atleast three cases where intruders were cuaght in north india by indian police with fake indian currency ,since then RBI has taken steps to avoid it.
8.Some one talks about paper ,,it is a huge money for a large population to vote in india.
9.Election commission gives access to each candidate represenatative before ,during and after elections to monitor in the booth.
10.Hariprasad should have first gone to EC office and raised his concerns.
11.BJP got relecteed in GUjarat,Madhyapradesh etc as predicted .
12.Anyone mocking Indian democracy or its due process will be charged ,,there are cases of arrest in Thailand for just spaeking a bit in bad light about the king.
13.india and Indians ,its institutions ,are much greater and above a single hariprasad or his team from abroad.India is about me ,you and everyone.
rama anne
syd australia
1.Govt of India has nothing to do with arrest of Mr Hari Prsad ,Election commission is independant of the government in power.
2.If Mr Hari Prasad has genuine concerns he should have taken an appointment with Election Commissioner and demonstarted the same to them first instead of going on a tv live.
3.What has happened is a correct step ,,Imagine someone in Australia,,uk,,usa making a duplicate machine ,,or even accessing such a machine ,,be it a bank ATM or scanning device going live on TV talking about how it can be hacked ,,iam sure police here will step in right the middle of show and arrest him,,becuase you are accessing a devicve that is their property and demonstrating about hacking it.
4.I have watched Hariprasd and election officials on the TV live and I can say for sure the election officials challenged him about hacking ,,as hacking involves using a device to access another device
5.All the people posting about Govt robbers etc is unneccasry tirade as I have told Election Commission is independant og govt in power,,it has its own commissioner and officials.
6.Electronics engineers from E.C.I.L a public sector comapny have developed the device I do not think they are congress or BJP OR any other party they are normal patriotic indians who want transparency in the process and make it easier for people of india to vote.
7.there are atleast three cases where intruders were cuaght in north india by indian police with fake indian currency ,since then RBI has taken steps to avoid it.
8.Some one talks about paper ,,it is a huge money for a large population to vote in india.
9.Election commission gives access to each candidate represenatative before ,during and after elections to monitor in the booth.
10.Hariprasad should have first gone to EC office and raised his concerns.
11.BJP got relecteed in GUjarat,Madhyapradesh etc as predicted .
12.Anyone mocking Indian democracy or its due process will be charged ,,there are cases of arrest in Thailand for just spaeking a bit in bad light about the king.
13.india and Indians ,its institutions ,are much greater and above a single hariprasad or his team from abroad.India is about me ,you and everyone.
rama anne
syd australia
Posted by:rama mohan anne
- 29 Aug, 2010
6:
I see very rarely people who analyze like the way you did. I wish to add the following.
Hariprasad and his team went to TV not to prove that EVMs could be hacked but to create confusion. He and his US team failed to prove that EVMs could be tampered as they are without changing the design of our EVM. That is tyhe reason for his not approaching Election Commission. And Hariprasad was basically arrested for steeling the government property but not for his demo.
Hariprasad and his team went to TV not to prove that EVMs could be hacked but to create confusion. He and his US team failed to prove that EVMs could be tampered as they are without changing the design of our EVM. That is tyhe reason for his not approaching Election Commission. And Hariprasad was basically arrested for steeling the government property but not for his demo.
Bharatiya Replied to: rama mohan anne
- 31 Aug, 2010
7:
This is unfortunate for india ,instead of taking the help of Mr. Prasad to rectify the error they arrest him.
Posted by:Himanshu Bhardwaj
- 28 Aug, 2010
8:
Dear Himanshu Bhardwaj
it was done in the correct way for the following reasons:
1.he was making a demo with even a duplicate machine,,he is supposed to get permission from Election Commission of India on a public TV hosted show.
2.I live in Australia,,imagine someone here going on a channel9 or channel 7 the two major TV channels and doing demo about one of the leading banks ATM machine or scanning device ,,the police will arrest him ,, and charge him straighaway.
3.No one is above India and its constitution however it may be ,,he has to first make an appointment with Election Commission and did a demo with them.
4.As an Indian origin man ,,I consider it as a mockery of Indian elections by going directly on a Private TV channel.
5.He was lucky that he was arrested later and according to the latest news he got a bail.
6.there are countries where even a minor slander about Monarchy(King Of thailand),,you will go to jail or even in gulf ,,you will get lashes.
7.The election machines were developed by Electronics engineers at E.C.I.L (a public sector company) and to replace enormous amount of paper.
8.Fake Indian currency was busted atleast three times in north India by police ,,upon interrogation,,it was discovered ,,both india and pakistan ,,use the same paper sourced from UK,,and it was infilitrators from across the border.RBI has taken relavent steps after these incidents.
9.Hacking is using one device to access another device but the demo does not show this at all.
rama anne
syd australia
it was done in the correct way for the following reasons:
1.he was making a demo with even a duplicate machine,,he is supposed to get permission from Election Commission of India on a public TV hosted show.
2.I live in Australia,,imagine someone here going on a channel9 or channel 7 the two major TV channels and doing demo about one of the leading banks ATM machine or scanning device ,,the police will arrest him ,, and charge him straighaway.
3.No one is above India and its constitution however it may be ,,he has to first make an appointment with Election Commission and did a demo with them.
4.As an Indian origin man ,,I consider it as a mockery of Indian elections by going directly on a Private TV channel.
5.He was lucky that he was arrested later and according to the latest news he got a bail.
6.there are countries where even a minor slander about Monarchy(King Of thailand),,you will go to jail or even in gulf ,,you will get lashes.
7.The election machines were developed by Electronics engineers at E.C.I.L (a public sector company) and to replace enormous amount of paper.
8.Fake Indian currency was busted atleast three times in north India by police ,,upon interrogation,,it was discovered ,,both india and pakistan ,,use the same paper sourced from UK,,and it was infilitrators from across the border.RBI has taken relavent steps after these incidents.
9.Hacking is using one device to access another device but the demo does not show this at all.
rama anne
syd australia
rama anne Replied to: Himanshu Bhardwaj
- 30 Aug, 2010
9:
here is the link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlCOj1dElDY&feature=player_embedded
His website : http://www.indiaevm.org/
His website : http://www.indiaevm.org/
Posted by:RKJ
- 28 Aug, 2010
10:
the government is totally a team of robbers... they dont want to face the truth... they are real BASTARD...
Posted by:RKJ
- 28 Aug, 2010
11:
mate
you got some issues ,,election commission ,,is independant of govt of India .Also show some respect,,it is a public facing web site
rama anne
syd australia
you got some issues ,,election commission ,,is independant of govt of India .Also show some respect,,it is a public facing web site
rama anne
syd australia
rama anne Replied to: RKJ
- 30 Aug, 2010
12:
My dear Rama, In India nothing is independent of Goverment...whether its CBI or Election comission?
AKJ Replied to: rama anne
- 30 Aug, 2010
13:
am agree with mr.prasad.should make changes as it is political concerned
Posted by:sagar sankpal
- 27 Aug, 2010
14:
Great initiative Mr Prasad. That you have been arrested only proves that Government is in fault. That you were not given the EVM for research only proves the apprehension of Government to be caught. Surprisingly such an important news has not found any pace in media!
Posted by:Aditi
- 27 Aug, 2010
15:
Yes, what Prasad did that's wrong in one way according to our so called LAW !
But that's all needed to be done. Can anyone tell me that how could one prove that all these important things can be manipulated without an original voting machine ?
This type of great technical mind/effort should be respected and his doings should/can be ignored by the government of India.
Only by help of Prasad the problem should be solved to avoid future riot at the time of elections.
But that's all needed to be done. Can anyone tell me that how could one prove that all these important things can be manipulated without an original voting machine ?
This type of great technical mind/effort should be respected and his doings should/can be ignored by the government of India.
Only by help of Prasad the problem should be solved to avoid future riot at the time of elections.
Posted by:Tapas
- 27 Aug, 2010
16:
Dear Aditi
Govt Of India did not arrest him,,it is election commission ,,and yes it can arrest him,,as any property that belongs to it ,,or duplicate of it ,,election commission can seize it and arrest the person to ascertain the source and purpose of such a machine.
So stop bashing Govt Of India and please realize it was a correct step.I live in Australia,, and I can assure ,,if anyone does a demo ,,of such a nature,,on a TV Channel ,,then defintely police will arrest him,,should the owners(a bank,,a govt dept) can call the police and ask them to interrogate him
rama anne
syd australia
Govt Of India did not arrest him,,it is election commission ,,and yes it can arrest him,,as any property that belongs to it ,,or duplicate of it ,,election commission can seize it and arrest the person to ascertain the source and purpose of such a machine.
So stop bashing Govt Of India and please realize it was a correct step.I live in Australia,, and I can assure ,,if anyone does a demo ,,of such a nature,,on a TV Channel ,,then defintely police will arrest him,,should the owners(a bank,,a govt dept) can call the police and ask them to interrogate him
rama anne
syd australia
rama anne Replied to: Tapas
- 30 Aug, 2010
17:
Another issue to be probed.Is our democracy tamper-proof?Come on guys.Let's not invite more trouble.
Posted by:Arfeen Alam
- 26 Aug, 2010
18:
Can some one give me link showing what Hari Prasad proved?
Posted by:Bharatiya
- 26 Aug, 2010
19:
Good use of terrorism by the government. Not far when our hon'ble home minister Mr. P Chidambram is making Hue and Cry about 'Saffron Terror' without any solid proof. Now what is this? which color is this government terror to the sincere Indians?
Posted by:Abhishek
- 26 Aug, 2010
20:
I am suprised at the common sense of Mr.Prasad. Though his intention was right, indian democracy cannot afford to digest such findings! May God bless You Mr.Prasad to get out of the trouble. Indians would remain Indias as far as politricks are concerned!
Posted by:Rajendran Gopalan
- 26 Aug, 2010
21:
Indeed our Govt. is run by selfish beuracrates. They hardly think of quality and better country. All they worried is there own short terms goals.
People who want to do better for the country end up dealing with Police like Hari.
I agree, that Election commision should use his talent wisely to improve the system and rather reward him.
Most funny is, our President is sitting silently and watching this kind of things happen... I don't understand how could he be the Security Chief of India and not look into National level fraud issues.
Hari should be infact rewarded by President.
In past a IITian reported frauds to President/PM office and he got killed...I hope it does not happen with RAM
People who want to do better for the country end up dealing with Police like Hari.
I agree, that Election commision should use his talent wisely to improve the system and rather reward him.
Most funny is, our President is sitting silently and watching this kind of things happen... I don't understand how could he be the Security Chief of India and not look into National level fraud issues.
Hari should be infact rewarded by President.
In past a IITian reported frauds to President/PM office and he got killed...I hope it does not happen with RAM
Posted by:DVS
- 26 Aug, 2010
22:
Join facebook group "EVM is Evil - Hari Prasad is a Hero. Visit http://fightwithhariprasadc.ipage.com/fightwithhariprasad//index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1 and protest
Don't be quiet. Protest.
Don't be quiet. Protest.
Posted by:Prab
- 25 Aug, 2010
23:
Join facebook group "EVM is Evil - Hari Prasad is a Hero. Visit http://fightwithhariprasadc.ipage.com/fightwithhariprasad//index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
Don't be quiet. Protest.
Don't be quiet. Protest.
Posted by:Prab
- 25 Aug, 2010
25:
Democracy? What democracy? It is a country run by goons.
ASK Replied to: KKN
- 25 Aug, 2010
26:
All the election results declared in EVM history till date should be nullified.Re election to be held with tamper proof EVM or paper ballot.Hari and team have done a great job.God bless you all.Most of the online intellectual world is behind you and we support your cause.
Posted by:sugatha
- 25 Aug, 2010
27:
Shame on Indian govt. First, if they can not keep one voting machine in safe custody they should not talk about the election results being secure and fair. If someone can take out one voting machines, others are also not secure. Second, they should motivate people who volunteer for such causes and should have provided full support by giving him access to a voting machine. They should release him and award him for such findings than sending him to jail.
Posted by:Deepak
- 25 Aug, 2010
28:
GoI should voluntarily come forward for checking security of any electronic systems by holding hacking events in order to build foolproof electronic/IT systems just like one which was held by Yahoo (Open Hack Event). Its a unfavourable & condemnable event.
Posted by:sahebgouda
- 25 Aug, 2010
29:
Government should save Hari Prasad and his team and work closely with them to fix the bug rather than arresting them for finding a loop hole in such a system.
Shame to Election Commission.
Shame to Election Commission.
Posted by:Atul
- 25 Aug, 2010
30:
Law taken in hand for its protection for which common people has to compenstate,this is the fate of every consicious citizen of the country.
Posted by:Joydeep
- 25 Aug, 2010
31:
Yes,it is really a matter of concern to common man because our system is so much corrupt that a genuine person has to suffer & in contast no one can dare to point fingers to our corrupt politians & bureaucrates which is the route cause of corruption in our country.Therefore,the genius person like mr prasad was arrested instead of getting appreciation.
Posted by:dr kiran tewari
- 25 Aug, 2010
32:
Guys I completely understand that India is big trouble .We are loosing control over the fraud..or u name it.
I found a website called www.wikileaks.com .Here u can post whatever the fraud happened in your office or country or about anything. All you need to give them just available docs and they will confirm about what you said with resources that they have. But all they need to do is they have to believe. We all know that as individuals we can not do anything.But here we can do many things.
They straight send verified docs to the media world.
Go please check the site if you don't believe me.
Kumar Swamy Ex-Chief Min said " You people are adjusted to us .which means whatever we do.you never asked us.nobody bother about what happening and what we going to do. There are several schemes under Govt. But none of them are so effective. So rather being writing essays in magazines show up yourself and be a part of change."
If there are no people avail to choose good one then what we do?
I stay in BTM layout,Bangalore.I've seen a govt representative shouting at a girl in colony about the garbage cover she throwing near the drain as though there is a vehicle that takes this bag..(but its bit far to reach it)
. He shouting at her worst than beggar ..
So if you don't understand the above version...My feeling is
Who ever MLA,MP,(govt officials) they think that they got the power and ordinary people are just trash or nothing for them..
Finally we should utmost thank some of the media.
If there are not there they we will disappear.
I found a website called www.wikileaks.com .Here u can post whatever the fraud happened in your office or country or about anything. All you need to give them just available docs and they will confirm about what you said with resources that they have. But all they need to do is they have to believe. We all know that as individuals we can not do anything.But here we can do many things.
They straight send verified docs to the media world.
Go please check the site if you don't believe me.
Kumar Swamy Ex-Chief Min said " You people are adjusted to us .which means whatever we do.you never asked us.nobody bother about what happening and what we going to do. There are several schemes under Govt. But none of them are so effective. So rather being writing essays in magazines show up yourself and be a part of change."
If there are no people avail to choose good one then what we do?
I stay in BTM layout,Bangalore.I've seen a govt representative shouting at a girl in colony about the garbage cover she throwing near the drain as though there is a vehicle that takes this bag..(but its bit far to reach it)
. He shouting at her worst than beggar ..
So if you don't understand the above version...My feeling is
Who ever MLA,MP,(govt officials) they think that they got the power and ordinary people are just trash or nothing for them..
Finally we should utmost thank some of the media.
If there are not there they we will disappear.
Posted by:Raju
- 25 Aug, 2010
33:
The Govt first ought to have confirmed or deny the findings of the research team led by Mr Prasad that the electronic voting machines are tamperable. If tamperable, the Govt should publicly acknowledge Mr Prasad's contribution for free poll in the country. Once this is done, they can always investigate the source which gave the machine for research to Mr Prasad. In fact, the Govt should have on its own invited tenders to prove if the macjines are tamperable In case the research has already proved the macjines are tamperable, the Govt should have ordered investigations of malpractices that might have already taken place.
What the Govt has done by arresting Mr Prasad is like ordering investigation into cause of an inferno, wiithout first trying to douse the flames
What the Govt has done by arresting Mr Prasad is like ordering investigation into cause of an inferno, wiithout first trying to douse the flames
Posted by:KS Raghunathan
- 25 Aug, 2010
34:
What is the duty of the supreme court and the election commission? Will it only interfere if someone protests or brings it to the notice of them. Is it not their responsibility to make sure that the case involving EVM's should be thoroughly investigated. The future of the whole country is based on these EVM's.
It is of utmost importance and the immediate duty of the supreme court and the Election commission to look into this matter.
God ! This is not democracy.
It is of utmost importance and the immediate duty of the supreme court and the Election commission to look into this matter.
God ! This is not democracy.
venky Replied to: KS Raghunathan
- 25 Aug, 2010
35:
Good to hear the possibility of tempering the EVM,
The whole system are so corrupted, the right person could not do any more and leave in peaceful condition.
Is this a message given to the expert to stop viewing their views and let functioning the Election Commission on their own whims and fans.
Such episode will always continue and none other them has the right to ask or debate.- is the the message clearly given to each aspirants.
This is how the entire govt. non govt and tycoons' dominates the Indian politics making worse than any monarchy rule country.
The whole system are so corrupted, the right person could not do any more and leave in peaceful condition.
Is this a message given to the expert to stop viewing their views and let functioning the Election Commission on their own whims and fans.
Such episode will always continue and none other them has the right to ask or debate.- is the the message clearly given to each aspirants.
This is how the entire govt. non govt and tycoons' dominates the Indian politics making worse than any monarchy rule country.
Posted by:Uppukar
- 25 Aug, 2010
36:
Congress won the past elections may be because of manipulating the faults in voting machines. By exposing this to public govt fears that it may no longer be able to rig the elections so arrested the person whom election commission and India should honor.
Posted by:deep
- 24 Aug, 2010
37:
This is to anyone who knows these researchers personally, please organize a country wide protest regarding both these voting machines and the arrest of Mr. Prasad. You will have at least 100+ people actively supporting you. If needed get back to me at "justsujoy@yahoo.co.in".
Posted by:Sujoy Bhattacharya
- 24 Aug, 2010
38:
This news has not surprised me. This is called Democracy as far as Govt. rules are concerned as they are used which are favourable to the govt. agencies. I would appreciate if the case is taken by all the medias print and electronics both.
Posted by:Sumanta Kumar Banerjee
- 24 Aug, 2010
39:
Dr. Prasad has done a good job. There is a illegal process but that only for making our voting system better. Govt shouls give him support in desinging a better and secure voting machine.
Posted by:Piyush Parbhakar Saxena
- 24 Aug, 2010
40:
yes I agree with you sir.
Mohammad Naseem Siddiqui Replied to: Piyush Parbhakar Saxena
- 25 Aug, 2010
41:
We go by rule .We go by democracy.. where is the both existing now?
Posted by:P.Partheban
- 24 Aug, 2010
42:
yeah if there is error in the system it must be corrected before it turns into a disease.Dr Prasad and his team-mates must be appreciated for there work if it is relevant.
Posted by:geetika
- 24 Aug, 2010
43:
India is run by four difrent beurocarats
1 politicians and their lackeys purely not bothered about public, they are worried about their wellfare and wearabout they have their lackeys who colect the ransom and share it with the netahas(
2 the oter The judiciary, a den of corrupted inefficient The extortion department
3 Now the election commtion after the TN Shesahn with out the sence
4 and the underword mafia and the law kepping force both are unofficaly maried have number of offshoots
1 politicians and their lackeys purely not bothered about public, they are worried about their wellfare and wearabout they have their lackeys who colect the ransom and share it with the netahas(
2 the oter The judiciary, a den of corrupted inefficient The extortion department
3 Now the election commtion after the TN Shesahn with out the sence
4 and the underword mafia and the law kepping force both are unofficaly maried have number of offshoots
Posted by:monk
- 24 Aug, 2010
44:
The Election Commission of India should have given researchers access to the voting machines in the first place. Prasad is a respected researcher who helped to discover a critical flaw in India's voting system. He and his fellow researchers would never have been able to document the weaknesses in India's voting machines without the help of their anonymous source.
If there is some fault in the system, it should be taken care of.
If there is some fault in the system, it should be taken care of.
Posted by:Ashish Dasgupta
- 24 Aug, 2010
45:
where is the media now, y cn't they cover these stories.....
Posted by:Mahesh
- 24 Aug, 2010
46:
this is fault in our media system........
piyush parbhakar saxena Replied to: Mahesh
- 24 Aug, 2010
47:
media is always busy trying to fix narendra modi in issues. The NDTV team, led by Rajdeep Sardesai n barkha dutt
Manjunath Replied to: Mahesh
- 24 Aug, 2010
48:
media is owned by the politicians and their lackeys, so no genuine criticism is tolerated! it has been adequately proved that the evms used in the indian election can be tampered. if given proper publicity all the voters will know the election had been massively rigged!
patriotic indian Replied to: Mahesh
- 24 Aug, 2010
49:
Show me something that can't be tampered. If the way Prasad showed, any one can tamper anything. Arew ballot boxes tamper free? If you want to replace hardware and change program, one needs access to the machines. If the EVM is tampered by replacing hardware before pressing it in to operation it fails the proof test in front of agents. If EVM is to be tampered after completion of voting, one needs to break the seals. If breaking seals is possible, one can do it to ballot boxes too. The only way of preventing tampering is, there should be no elections and no democracy!
Second issue, if what prasad has done is research, then Virus creators and hackers are also researchers. Do you want to reward them too? Then why did we not oppose cases against virus creators.
We need to understand what it is before we comment. Has anyone understood what Prasad proved. He designed his own EVM and proved it vulnerability! By stealing EVM, Prasad did harm this country. He passed it to Americans for analysing. Neither he proved nor the American University proved any vulnerability in its form. And we appreciate him for it!
Second issue, if what prasad has done is research, then Virus creators and hackers are also researchers. Do you want to reward them too? Then why did we not oppose cases against virus creators.
We need to understand what it is before we comment. Has anyone understood what Prasad proved. He designed his own EVM and proved it vulnerability! By stealing EVM, Prasad did harm this country. He passed it to Americans for analysing. Neither he proved nor the American University proved any vulnerability in its form. And we appreciate him for it!
Posted by:Bharatiya
- 24 Aug, 2010
50:
U seem to be an outright idiot many including me had predicted that 2004/2009 elections will be rigged thru EVMs it has happened but few nuts like you dont believe it . Yes rigging can be done in ballot boxes also but that has to be done by physical manipulation which can be detected easily like booth capturing , switching of ballot boxes , bogus voting etc etc but electronic fraud is very difficult to detect . Both ECs Gill & Chawla are Cong stooges they rigged the machines to help Cong , former was rewarded by offering sports ministry & he made good use of that thru Common wealth games the latter is waiting to be rewarded. Can you tell me what is the proof that your vote has gone to the right place in EVM ? there is no indication no proof atleast in ballot boxes you are sure where you casted your vote . In ATM transactions you get a slip confirming the transaction , why cant the same be done on EVMs ..? of course then the rigging wont happen right ?
rohan Replied to: Bharatiya
- 25 Aug, 2010
51:
None of ur arguments have any logic in them just rhetoric and name calling I really feel sorry for u.... what abt if some one switched a ballot box on the way to transfer if what u are saying is right and I have ECs in my pocket then I can get as many ballots as I want stamp them which ever way I want and then put them in a box and change them for original ballot boxes that in no way is different from what u r suggesting... anyway I am done telling logic people who have no interest in logic.... keep believe in all this hocus pocus what do I care bbye
Parasuram Replied to: rohan
- 26 Aug, 2010
52:
Govt should table a white report in the ongoing parliament session immediately. There should be a JPC on this EVM issue without any delay.
Posted by:KRB
- 24 Aug, 2010
53:
What r u taking about dear!? Table and JPC are the way of government to sit on the issues and dilute the important ones in its favour. What is the guarantee of fair report?
Abhishek Replied to: KRB
- 26 Aug, 2010
54:
Shameful!
These people say they have public mandate to form govt. at centre, around 146 MPs with the help of these EVMs.
Amazing and shocking.
These people say they have public mandate to form govt. at centre, around 146 MPs with the help of these EVMs.
Amazing and shocking.
Posted by:Praveer Singh
- 24 Aug, 2010
55:
I feel sad to note that we have not leart to accept our weakness. Mr. Prasad's effort should be appreciated and acknowledge and accept to improve it with his assistance. When we look at these we can understand where we are backward compared to other leading countries. Accept the lapses and learnt to improve it. THOSE WHO HAVE NOT LEARNT FROM THEIR MISTAKES ARE CONDEMNED TO REPEAT IT.
Posted by:G Ananthapadmanabhan
- 24 Aug, 2010
57:
This is very good case of how the present government is looking to stop the innovations. It appears the the government led by MMS had hacked the EVMs and they are very much afraid of the truth coming out. Because if truth comes out. Then there is a big question on the honesty of our beloved most honest PM MMS.
Posted by:s kumar
- 24 Aug, 2010
58:
EVM Machine should not be used in democratic country, Common man does not know about EVM technology and they don't know EVM Machine where tranfer thier vote? In Paper Common man easliy check. EC is as such technical so they comments " It is temporproof. USA used paper for Vote. because they knows every software is vulnerable.Why does not USA use EVM Machine because they understand the value of Vote. but we can't. We 50% people participate in Election. In case if there is any tempor in EVM anybody knows that..... Then this is very big cheating with Indians....It is not acceptable Kab tak sahe aur chup rahe hum...Jaago re
Posted by:Ravi Prasad
- 24 Aug, 2010
59:
can Hariprasad be complimented for what he did or should he be punished. He should be punished. If he loves India, after discovering that EVM can be tampered, he should have forwarded his suggestions to improve the machine from getting hacked to all concerned in the office of election commission. But he is hungry for publicity and media attention. so he calls the electronic media who are ever ready to show anything even if it is bizzare, "as breaking news". Possesing intelligence is good but should be used for the right cause and for the nation. He deserves a jail term...
Posted by:adhikarla krishna
- 24 Aug, 2010
60:
Another Idiot , do u know EC in the first place never gave him a machine to test ,why? what they were afraid ? A PIL in SC on this subject against EC was rejected by SC Judge .. EC , judiciary , media , underworld all are in hand in gloves in this massive world's biggest fraud . What can a honest man like Prasad do instead of going to public even then see the price he is paying , getting harassed for exposing a fraud .. Bcs of you guys Cong has been able to loot the country for 60 yrs .. people like you by supporting Cong is killing India ..
rohan Replied to: adhikarla krishna
- 25 Aug, 2010
62:
instead of questioning Hari Prasad, EC should reward him and ask him for better solution to overcome faults in EVMs
Posted by:arjun lal
- 24 Aug, 2010
63:
if we consider such cases then we need to give reward for many others as well.......
santosh Replied to: arjun lal
- 24 Aug, 2010
64:
Good work Prasad. If not arrested, definitely all parties tries to know the secret of tampering with money or by scaring if not accepted money. In this way keeping him away with public is necessary. Presently he knows all the logic used in EVMs, even if Govt. fixed, Prasad can expect how to tamper again. The only solution Govt. should release Prasad and should go for new design of EVMs from bottom if Govt. really wants non-tampered EVMs and has genuine opinion to bring the non-tamper-able EVMS.
Posted by:Sarath
- 24 Aug, 2010
65:
Jai Ho Hari Prasad ki, Sach kyon bola aur ab chad jao sooli me. After the enormous success of such fraud prone EVMs world over, Our Honest harischandra vamsha Political Parties also proved we are next to none and succeeded to wipe out somewhat honest Govt and took over .Results are seen now segregation of floor crossers to Congress, DMK etc since Now politicians have become pensionable employees asking for salary hike and of course none can make them step down in the next few decades to come due to Two things which have come to stay are 1.fraud prone Voting machines to give the desired outcome after counting 2.The huge amount of Fake currencies in circulation.
1. YOU ARE NOT THE VOTER FRAUDULENT VOTING Computer Voting Is Open to Easy Fraud, Experts Say by JOHN SCHWARTZ, India’s voting machines are open to fraud, says group By IANS April 29th, 2010
2. No official estimate of fake currency in circulation: RBI news 01 August 2009The number of forged notes detected by the banking system, including the Reserve Bank, in 2007-2008 was 1, 95,811 among 44,225 million note pieces in circulation (or four notes in one million notes in circulation), according to data released by the RBI.Mera Bharath Mahan, Jai Ho NetaonKi aur EVMs
1. YOU ARE NOT THE VOTER FRAUDULENT VOTING Computer Voting Is Open to Easy Fraud, Experts Say by JOHN SCHWARTZ, India’s voting machines are open to fraud, says group By IANS April 29th, 2010
2. No official estimate of fake currency in circulation: RBI news 01 August 2009The number of forged notes detected by the banking system, including the Reserve Bank, in 2007-2008 was 1, 95,811 among 44,225 million note pieces in circulation (or four notes in one million notes in circulation), according to data released by the RBI.Mera Bharath Mahan, Jai Ho NetaonKi aur EVMs
Posted by:RVGIYER
- 24 Aug, 2010
66:
Good work Mr.Prasad
Proud to say your are Indian. But you did not say i worked for saving India.
Any way congrats for your achievement .
Proud to say your are Indian. But you did not say i worked for saving India.
Any way congrats for your achievement .
Posted by:Sathya
- 24 Aug, 2010
67:
Will this be in any of the media as Head lines?
Posted by:Saravana
- 24 Aug, 2010
68:
Prasad shouldn't have been arrested at all. The EC should have been proactive, and should have provided a machine to him to demonstrate his findings. This should have been done under the strict supervision of EC officials in their premises so that Prasad also would have had the confidence in the EC. By geting Prasad arrested, the EC and the Govt. have given credence to the general allegation that all's not okay with EVMs. Prasad should be released immediately and he should be taken into confidence by EC and the Govt. so that the voters develop confidence in the EC and its processes.
Posted by:Suresh Menon
- 24 Aug, 2010
69:
Great work Mr.Prasad.
first think about correcting the fault on EVM ,then go ahead with this stupid idea of Questioning the good researcher who contributes to our society.
first think about correcting the fault on EVM ,then go ahead with this stupid idea of Questioning the good researcher who contributes to our society.
Posted by:indian
- 24 Aug, 2010
70:
i think prasad has exposed the way elections have been won in indoa,by hook or crook.voting machines ,booth capturing etc etc is immaterial.
its our polticians who are runnng scared now that the truth is out in the open.
its our polticians who are runnng scared now that the truth is out in the open.
nc mishra Replied to: indian
- 24 Aug, 2010
71:
isn't the very next & most crucial Question -> Was the Ballot
Tampered with? if yes then -is there proof or was that too tampered with?
Tampered with? if yes then -is there proof or was that too tampered with?
Vivek Replied to: indian
- 24 Aug, 2010
72:
If the answer to that is Yes, then aren't the people who are running the show now the ones who came to power coz of the tampered ballot? why would they expose themselves? Why not use their power to get Prasad arrested?
Anand Replied to: Vivek
- 24 Aug, 2010
73:
If all this is true, it just shows how shameless they are.
There is no honor or respect in winning by illegal means, whether it be elections, games or life itself.
Don't they get it? If you win by illegal means you have not really won.
Common sense is not so common, after all.
www.theperfectworld.org
There is no honor or respect in winning by illegal means, whether it be elections, games or life itself.
Don't they get it? If you win by illegal means you have not really won.
Common sense is not so common, after all.
www.theperfectworld.org
Posted by:Sanju Paison
- 24 Aug, 2010
74:
Well, I think Prasad has done a great job by proving what he was challenged for by the constituion itself to prove that the voting system is NOT flawless. If they were not guilty they themselves should have provided access to Prasad in the first place to research and investigate if the voting system had any loop holes. Since this was obviously not possible Prasad had to find his own way to do his job and for that he should not be punished but REWARDED as no matter by what means he has finally succeeded in proving his point. What benefit is Prasad getting out of it this? Just that he or all TRUE Indians would want a constitution which is true & flawless. That we get people in politics who truly deserve to be there and not those who are corrupt. Manipulative. If they manipulate and get the seat, how is it that they are going to serve the citizens, the country with all due to respect and diligence?
I say that instead of punishing Prasad why cant the officials put their attention in ACTAULLY CORRECTING THE VOTING SYSTEM? WHY CANT PRASAD'S RESEARCH BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION and the system corrected?
Till when will the people of India only support the wrong? when will the true leaders emerge who really have the desire to serve the people and the country and not just use the constitution for their selfish means and filling their bank accounts etc.
Its a SHAME to hide the truth and punish the right people as HOW LONG, HOW LONG will this go on? HOW much manipulations can be done? One day the people will awake... Imagine the 2nd largest population of the world rising against these wrong doings. STOP MANIPULATION. STOP CORRUPTION...INDIA needs True, non-corrupt leaders to rule the country and till that time we will STILL BE SLAVES of the developed countries. RELEASE PRASAD & CORRECT THE VOTING SYSTEM. Only then we will truly be independent. Else we will only be called Democratic Hypocrits. Wake up NOW.
I say that instead of punishing Prasad why cant the officials put their attention in ACTAULLY CORRECTING THE VOTING SYSTEM? WHY CANT PRASAD'S RESEARCH BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION and the system corrected?
Till when will the people of India only support the wrong? when will the true leaders emerge who really have the desire to serve the people and the country and not just use the constitution for their selfish means and filling their bank accounts etc.
Its a SHAME to hide the truth and punish the right people as HOW LONG, HOW LONG will this go on? HOW much manipulations can be done? One day the people will awake... Imagine the 2nd largest population of the world rising against these wrong doings. STOP MANIPULATION. STOP CORRUPTION...INDIA needs True, non-corrupt leaders to rule the country and till that time we will STILL BE SLAVES of the developed countries. RELEASE PRASAD & CORRECT THE VOTING SYSTEM. Only then we will truly be independent. Else we will only be called Democratic Hypocrits. Wake up NOW.
Posted by:B H BHARUCHA
- 24 Aug, 2010
75:
The EVM's are the best and foolproof gadget for rigging the elections. The EPROM and PC's can be installed with self deleting softwares to do all rigging of election results. The software can be designed in a way that it remains hidden as a virus till the day of election and after the election time is over it can redistribute all the votes polled as per desired pattern and then destroy it self. So that when the vote counting process is over and machines are checked again nothing can be found. The actual proofs of voting and pattern are not available physically for any analysis later. These machines must be abondoned immediately.
Posted by:Shatendra Sharma
- 24 Aug, 2010
76:
This is one out of many an indication that the election process is not a foulproof process. Politics are for coming to power for making the easy money sorry!looting the country. No political party/leader is immune to curruption. Every politician is waiting for his turn to grab the opportunity to come to power.
Toomuch of democracy had spoiled our country.
Coming to Mr. Hariprasd, If he is not released with honours immediately, the government would be inviting another trouble leading to a public uproar.
Toomuch of democracy had spoiled our country.
Coming to Mr. Hariprasd, If he is not released with honours immediately, the government would be inviting another trouble leading to a public uproar.
Posted by:D S BABU
- 24 Aug, 2010
77:
Does world knows such things happening inside India and PM is not bothered about anything.
I recently read that our PM is Best in the World, I got a question in my mind why he is named like that by some foreign Magazine?
present ruling party much worried about MP's salary hike than people who lost there life in Bhopal gas tragedy.
I recently read that our PM is Best in the World, I got a question in my mind why he is named like that by some foreign Magazine?
present ruling party much worried about MP's salary hike than people who lost there life in Bhopal gas tragedy.
Posted by:Saravana
- 24 Aug, 2010
78:
Hi Guys.... really I am amazed to read all this stuff u guys have written.... Let me ask you guys a simple question have any of you read this earth shattering report this guy has written, I sincerely doubt it :)....
Well the truth is that all these researchers showed is that if anyone has physical access to an electronic voting machine then he/she can tamper with it. Well guess what guys if anyone had access to an ballot paper then they can tamper with that too...
I am someone who has worked in the political arena for 9 long years now and believe me when I say I have seen first hand almost every kind of election fraud perpetrated by every political party every time an election is conducted... ranging from solution that will remove the indelible ink to fake id cards that allows one person to cast a vote for another person often while the actual person is threatened and told to remain at home....
Anyway the fact is the coming of electronic voting machines has made elections in India far safer than they ever were before....
And as for the allegations abt the congress party well let me ask you one question who do u think has more opportunity to commit election fraud the ruling party or the opposition... And if we were to follow the logic that u guys have expounded here then BJP should never have lost the 2004 Lok Sabha election...
Unless u want to argue that BJP is a saint of party and never engages in election fraud of any kind ( Which I assure u my dear friends I can tell u from personal experience is not true, ALL POLITICAL PARTIES COMMIT ELECTION FRAUD WHENEVER POSSIBLE).... Anyway think abt it, I hope logic prevails though I sincerely doubt it will... Jai Hind :)
Well the truth is that all these researchers showed is that if anyone has physical access to an electronic voting machine then he/she can tamper with it. Well guess what guys if anyone had access to an ballot paper then they can tamper with that too...
I am someone who has worked in the political arena for 9 long years now and believe me when I say I have seen first hand almost every kind of election fraud perpetrated by every political party every time an election is conducted... ranging from solution that will remove the indelible ink to fake id cards that allows one person to cast a vote for another person often while the actual person is threatened and told to remain at home....
Anyway the fact is the coming of electronic voting machines has made elections in India far safer than they ever were before....
And as for the allegations abt the congress party well let me ask you one question who do u think has more opportunity to commit election fraud the ruling party or the opposition... And if we were to follow the logic that u guys have expounded here then BJP should never have lost the 2004 Lok Sabha election...
Unless u want to argue that BJP is a saint of party and never engages in election fraud of any kind ( Which I assure u my dear friends I can tell u from personal experience is not true, ALL POLITICAL PARTIES COMMIT ELECTION FRAUD WHENEVER POSSIBLE).... Anyway think abt it, I hope logic prevails though I sincerely doubt it will... Jai Hind :)
Posted by:R.Parasuram
- 24 Aug, 2010
79:
You exposes your inclination by dragging a noble political party in the issue. In fact they were the sufferers of the fraud done by Election commissioner Chawla and than Chief Election commissioner.
Now we are waiting to see him as Rajya Sabha member or Governer.
Now we are waiting to see him as Rajya Sabha member or Governer.
Amit Purohit Replied to: R.Parasuram
- 24 Aug, 2010
80:
Noble BJP = oxymoron!
Ditto with Congress, Left, RJD etc
Ditto with Congress, Left, RJD etc
Ravi Replied to: Amit Purohit
- 24 Aug, 2010
81:
Exactly my point man.... If one party did so much fraud do u think the others will just sit there are let them do it... these guys are crazy
Parasuram Replied to: Ravi
- 26 Aug, 2010
82:
I think there is lack of transperency in the Indian system. The EVM is prety outdated right now. There are better solutions
Gurudath Replied to: R.Parasuram
- 24 Aug, 2010
83:
Dear Mr.Parasuram,you are right that all political parties engage in Election Frauds,but party like BJP is naive and ameture in front of Professionals like Congress and DMK.Now political parties no more interested in getting votes with their performance,but are now all out to BUY,Snatch,impersonate,booth capture,Rig,riot to come to power besides dividing people based on caste,religion etc..We have CEC (Independant?)who are at service only to their personal masters.
Now EVMs are of great help with half the battle almost won before going to polls for the previlaged
Even elctronically advanced western countries and Japan have refused EVMs citing they being prone to programming errors intentionally or otherwise.
So EVMs better be rejected and Ballots be brought back.
JaiHind.Shyam.P.Kunte/Chennai
Now EVMs are of great help with half the battle almost won before going to polls for the previlaged
Even elctronically advanced western countries and Japan have refused EVMs citing they being prone to programming errors intentionally or otherwise.
So EVMs better be rejected and Ballots be brought back.
JaiHind.Shyam.P.Kunte/Chennai
Shyam.P.Kunte Replied to: R.Parasuram
- 24 Aug, 2010
84:
BJP is naive ofcourse because Gujarat Riots, Kandhmal Riots, Babri Masjid Riots all of them were acts of extreme naivety... I agree with one thing u have said western nations have not implemented the EVM system but u have to understand in size(population wise) these countries are a fraction of India and elections there are a whole different ball game. Anyway the logic that simply cos they did that and u think they are better than us does not make for a valid argument against EVMs. EVMS are used in some countries but just not as wide spread as they are used in India and their EVMs are very different from ours. Our EVMs are very low tech theirs have network capability and all... its just not a fair comparison. and as a matter fact if u ll do some research u ll see that many countries Election Commissions have lauded the Indian Election Commission for their impartial and efficient conducting of elections e.g.
http://netindian.in/news/2010/02/25/0005506/election-commission-ndtv-indias-icon-last-21-years
http://netindian.in/news/2010/02/25/0005506/election-commission-ndtv-indias-icon-last-21-years
Parasuram Replied to: Shyam.P.Kunte
- 26 Aug, 2010
85:
This is how P.Chidambaram won in the previous election.
Posted by:Kumaran
- 24 Aug, 2010
86:
Hi All
I have been harping around for the past many years that CONGRESS got to power by TAMPERING votes,thru these machines & it was in a Hurry to introduce this voting machines every where. It selectively elects representatives (Even deciding wht opposition candidates need to be in the parliament) through this doctored machines. i recommend We must have ballot papers as well, where ever these machines are installed.& counting must take place in the Booth itself, & not taken anywhere for counting.These BALLOT boxes are replaced by already cased votes(in favour of Congress)once they are returned from constituencies by the Hood lums CEC (Chief election commissioner)who are agents of the congress party... Ex Naveen chawla is one such case...
By making the opposition candidate win they show that the machine is un biased & TRUE, where as it is actually doctored.....DEFEAT THE "EVIL CONGRESS" IN ITS GAME OF DIVIDING OUR INDIAN SOCIETY & Religion. and ruling in the name of Mahatama Gandhi (sic)... whom they redicule...
I have been harping around for the past many years that CONGRESS got to power by TAMPERING votes,thru these machines & it was in a Hurry to introduce this voting machines every where. It selectively elects representatives (Even deciding wht opposition candidates need to be in the parliament) through this doctored machines. i recommend We must have ballot papers as well, where ever these machines are installed.& counting must take place in the Booth itself, & not taken anywhere for counting.These BALLOT boxes are replaced by already cased votes(in favour of Congress)once they are returned from constituencies by the Hood lums CEC (Chief election commissioner)who are agents of the congress party... Ex Naveen chawla is one such case...
By making the opposition candidate win they show that the machine is un biased & TRUE, where as it is actually doctored.....DEFEAT THE "EVIL CONGRESS" IN ITS GAME OF DIVIDING OUR INDIAN SOCIETY & Religion. and ruling in the name of Mahatama Gandhi (sic)... whom they redicule...
Posted by:vijay nair
- 24 Aug, 2010
87:
In ballots you stamp and cast your votes on choice of your Candidate and make sure before dropping in ballot boxes.But in EVMs you know nothing after punching the button of so called choice but a beep tone.How to know that whether the cast vote is added to the choice or to some one?.EVMs will be tamper free only when it issues a recipt of transaction with barcode and records the thump impression which later can be checked if at all any complaints of malpractices.
May God save our Great Democracy.JaiHind.Shyam.P.Kunte/Chennai
May God save our Great Democracy.JaiHind.Shyam.P.Kunte/Chennai
Posted by:Shyam.P.Kunte
- 24 Aug, 2010
89:
published a paper details can be found at http://news.webindia123.com/news/Articles/India/20090717/1297447.html
Posted by:Manish kumar Singh
- 24 Aug, 2010
90:
oops my mistake correct url is
http://news.webindia123.com/news/Articles/India/20090717/1297447.html
http://news.webindia123.com/news/Articles/India/20090717/1297447.html
Manish kumar Singh Replied to: Manish kumar Singh
- 24 Aug, 2010
91:
Mr. Singh, these links do not work....
Dattatreya Heroor Replied to: Manish kumar Singh
- 24 Aug, 2010
92:
http://news.webindia123.com/news/Articles/India/20090717/1297447.html
Manish kumar Singh Replied to: Dattatreya Heroor
- 24 Aug, 2010
93:
Reviewing and (if proven) accepting flaws to correct flawless system should be number one priority.
Simple question to the current Government:
Why punish those who are doing their best to build better India?
Is the slogan SATYAMEV JAYATE changed now?
Simple question to the current Government:
Why punish those who are doing their best to build better India?
Is the slogan SATYAMEV JAYATE changed now?
Posted by:Clarity
- 24 Aug, 2010
94:
Our politicans are idiots they do not know what is critical and what is not. we should appreciate that some has found that EVM also can be tampered. Who knows it may be tampered in our previous elections also
Posted by:Raj
- 24 Aug, 2010
95:
Which is more impotent? Was it the way congress got into power?
Posted by:R. Saikia
- 24 Aug, 2010
97:
Dear Hari,
Dear Hair,
I am with you,
Not only you are not arrested, all citizen of India who believes in democracy are arrested.
EC should take step to resolve this issue before 2014 election or the corrupt team members needs to be resigned from their post.
Dear Hair,
I am with you,
Not only you are not arrested, all citizen of India who believes in democracy are arrested.
EC should take step to resolve this issue before 2014 election or the corrupt team members needs to be resigned from their post.
Posted by:RAM NARESH YADAV
- 24 Aug, 2010
98:
It shows the greatness of indian researchers and its shame on indian bureaucratic policies that doesn't allow such intellectuals for research. If it is an US Based or any European based firms to do so, they will appreciate, but not the indians to do. This kind of work will be well appreciated by other devloped countries. indian bureaucracy, when will you grow.
Posted by:jayabharat
- 24 Aug, 2010
99:
No Wonder why Congress got into power without much hick ups.
Entire nation was thinking of collation Govt. may be congress inclined BABU's did the trick.
Entire nation was thinking of collation Govt. may be congress inclined BABU's did the trick.
Posted by:Krishna
- 24 Aug, 2010
100:
Dear Hari,
You are not the exception, this happen to everyone who raised his/ her voice against corrupt bureaucracy. Your fault is only that your raised your voice against this corrupt system not in a popper channel. You can go to Electronic Media or Direct present in front of Magistrate with all documentary proof. But now as the corrupt lobby put you behind bars. You know this is the only country where no one is held responsible for his/her faults or errors. Every year thousands of people died & property of thousands crores damaged in rainy season, but in last 63 years India got so called independence & no one is punished from Municipal Corporation for their faults. No one is here to ask them why water not released whereas thousands of crores rupees spend to maintain the same and if it is not possible then for what they are getting salaries. No doubt Election Commission is not an exception. Whereas on other side in Corporate sector if anyone found guilty he/she simply thrown out of system. Only this is the reason of their growth. The day when someone will feel fear to be hanged out because of corruption we believe that corruption will decrease drastically.
As a conclusion all of us need to bring a little bit honesty in our daily life and convey the same to our next generation so that they can live in a better world than us and did not face all obstacles which we are facing.
You are not the exception, this happen to everyone who raised his/ her voice against corrupt bureaucracy. Your fault is only that your raised your voice against this corrupt system not in a popper channel. You can go to Electronic Media or Direct present in front of Magistrate with all documentary proof. But now as the corrupt lobby put you behind bars. You know this is the only country where no one is held responsible for his/her faults or errors. Every year thousands of people died & property of thousands crores damaged in rainy season, but in last 63 years India got so called independence & no one is punished from Municipal Corporation for their faults. No one is here to ask them why water not released whereas thousands of crores rupees spend to maintain the same and if it is not possible then for what they are getting salaries. No doubt Election Commission is not an exception. Whereas on other side in Corporate sector if anyone found guilty he/she simply thrown out of system. Only this is the reason of their growth. The day when someone will feel fear to be hanged out because of corruption we believe that corruption will decrease drastically.
As a conclusion all of us need to bring a little bit honesty in our daily life and convey the same to our next generation so that they can live in a better world than us and did not face all obstacles which we are facing.
Posted by:VIKRANT SHARMA
- 24 Aug, 2010
101:
If the EVM's are tamper proof and flawlwss why the Govt. should get scared in any one trying to proove the flaw. This is a Democtic Country and its ppl should be free from any doubt on their voting exercise. Let the unbiased authorities allow Mr Hariprasad are any individuals to get access to the system and proove
Posted by:s.s.vasan
- 23 Aug, 2010
102:
this is a significant research work and penalizing this researcher will mean we don't respect our democracy.
Posted by:mukesh
- 23 Aug, 2010
103:
Hariprasad, you have done a good job. with this every voter came to know the secrecy behind the voting process.This shows how easily the people are getting cheated.
why did the election commission has arrested him?It is the right of the public to question the government about flaws. If there are no bugs then allow him to do his work.
why did the election commission has arrested him?It is the right of the public to question the government about flaws. If there are no bugs then allow him to do his work.
Posted by:aswini
- 23 Aug, 2010
104:
the arrest of mr Hari prasad is an indication of admittance of guilt by ruling party and govt wants to suppress the truth, scared of his expose,instead of arresting him, election commission should honour him and request prasad to extend his help to fix the fault& be transparent .if it is some other country they would honour prasad.
Indian electorate is helplessly/silently watching ministers Raja,Madhu koda etc who swallowed thousands of crores of Rupees ,but prasad got arrested and certainly his mouth will be taped.
are roaming freely with the support of ruling party but Hari prasad got arrested
Indian electorate is helplessly/silently watching ministers Raja,Madhu koda etc who swallowed thousands of crores of Rupees ,but prasad got arrested and certainly his mouth will be taped.
are roaming freely with the support of ruling party but Hari prasad got arrested
G.KESHAV RAJ Replied to: aswini
- 24 Aug, 2010
105:
We all should support Hari Prasad for his efforts and the risk that he has taken to bring these facts in public but at the same time we must remember the person who provided the machines. I believe that the respected Election commission should come forward and allow Hari to reexamine the machines publically and let the truth come out If they are clear from their side.
Hay Hari Go ahead we are with U!
Hay Hari Go ahead we are with U!
Posted by:Anil
- 23 Aug, 2010
106:
Common we should all take up this issue with one of the Electronic Media like NDTV or CNNIBN or TIMESNOW, to bring back the researcher Hari Prasad.
Is it a crime to show the fault in our system, something similar to whistle blowers who have to be protected by our law.
What happened to HUMAR RIGHTS ACTIVISTS why are they not figthing for justice for HARI PRASAD? what crime he has done?
FOR TRUE CRIMANALS THE HRActivits come first but in genuine case they take two steps backward
India is a Democratic country am sure justice will prevail and the truth will be the WINNER.
Is it a crime to show the fault in our system, something similar to whistle blowers who have to be protected by our law.
What happened to HUMAR RIGHTS ACTIVISTS why are they not figthing for justice for HARI PRASAD? what crime he has done?
FOR TRUE CRIMANALS THE HRActivits come first but in genuine case they take two steps backward
India is a Democratic country am sure justice will prevail and the truth will be the WINNER.
Posted by:venkat
- 23 Aug, 2010
107:
Your statement "India is a Democratic country am sure justice will prevail and the truth will be the WINNER."is true Theoretically but it won't works practically(Might be justice talks against citizen who do not have some support like Money or Politics)
If you see news nowadays legal actions against Illegal things are just alive for a day soon after the actions would not be taken against the guilt hope you can understand the reason.
I am much worried about my Mother country's Future...
If you see news nowadays legal actions against Illegal things are just alive for a day soon after the actions would not be taken against the guilt hope you can understand the reason.
I am much worried about my Mother country's Future...
Saravana Replied to: venkat
- 24 Aug, 2010
108:
Salute to Hariprasad, This is an example for how much our Indian democracy and people of india is cheated by the beuracts and politicians. If Election commision of india beleives their system is tamp proof then they should be ready for the security test within the rules. I am condemning the arrerst, he should be released immediately. An independent team should be formed to check the EVM. If they found any fault. sevre action should be taken on the respective authorities.
Posted by:prakasam
- 23 Aug, 2010
109:
if you want to find the fault and hardly working for that then it's a useless point to discuss that the way is secure or not.... if you are working with highly technical equipment in lab then you can do that but it proves nothing.
Posted by:atul
- 23 Aug, 2010
110:
This is pathetic if someone is trying to help the govt by showing the flaws .lets assume if some had exploited the flaw and changed the results they would again spend crores of rs for a re-election and removing the flaw. it is the election comission who should have handed over the machine
rahul Replied to: atul
- 23 Aug, 2010
111:
Is this the way Indian election commission behaves with a researcher ?
It is better 2 rectify the flaws in the machine rather than trying for anonymous agent.
It is better 2 rectify the flaws in the machine rather than trying for anonymous agent.
Posted by:Narendra
- 23 Aug, 2010
112:
pathetic response by government. this is kind of nazism and not a democracy. govt should fix EVM first. after fixing all bugs, the anonymous source should be punished for breaking law. why they are arresting the researcher
Posted by:srinivasan
- 23 Aug, 2010
113:
While using EVM we are just an End user as a Citizen of India and behind the scene is integrated Software. No End User knows whether something is Hard Coded in EVM.
Posted by:Saravana
- 23 Aug, 2010
114:
So much for Innovation. So much for pointing a finger at the Govt. How will ever India progress ?
Posted by:Manpreet Singh
- 23 Aug, 2010
115:
I appreciate Prasad effort and the people who love India and want to see a better India should appreciate him. Yes, ofcource his procurement process of EVM may not be legally currect but sometime some people has to take risk to prove the current hypocrite system is wrong. It always happened in past and so called system punished them. But we are 21st century, we should open our eyes and support this type of effort to make our nation best in this world. The govt should behave logically to resolve this issue.
Posted by:Abhik
- 23 Aug, 2010
116:
What are these guys trying to prove anyway? Many things could be done at a laboratory environment where I could access the hardware and re-program it. It doesn't prove anything. Can you do that in the production setup where these machines are deployed? Some guys want some cheap publicity (and mostly being funded by the political parties those blame their defeats on the voting machines and refusing to accept the reality.)
Posted by:Ajay
- 23 Aug, 2010
117:
At last one voice of reason amongst all this histeria.... let logic prevail.... If I had physical access to balot papers I cud stamp my name on each and every one of them and and then I cud be President Of INDIA YEA..... the amount of logic most people seem top have staggers me pretty please man If I had physical access to the computers of any one of the individuals who have written here then I cud comit crimes using it and then have them arrested for it... now by that logic u shud all immediately throw away ur computers lest u get arrested... pls dont wait throw ur computers away immediately do the world a favour :P
Manu Replied to: Ajay
- 26 Aug, 2010
118:
This is not cheap publicity mr.Ajay but an attempt by mr.Hari that EVMs can be tampered or programmed to `Ruling party`s wishes and that is why Congress keen on keeping guys like Navin Chawlas in the helm of affairs of Election commission.Now the clarion call should be `Bring back Ballots and be hell with the EVMs.
Also Dr.Subramanya swami`s argument in Court related to `Ban use of EVMs case since prone for tampering`as it does not give any receipt for transaction what any elctronic machine is supposed to give after any transaction is a valid
point which is now proved.
JaiHind.Shyam.P.Kunte/Chennai
Also Dr.Subramanya swami`s argument in Court related to `Ban use of EVMs case since prone for tampering`as it does not give any receipt for transaction what any elctronic machine is supposed to give after any transaction is a valid
point which is now proved.
JaiHind.Shyam.P.Kunte/Chennai
Shyam.P.Kunte Replied to: Ajay
- 24 Aug, 2010
119:
Hari deserves Bharat Ratna award. EC go to Bharat Electronics for designing a flawed EVM. Fix the EVM and the corruption.
What will police and government do if we all unite and say we are the ones who gave him the access to EVM.
What will police and government do if we all unite and say we are the ones who gave him the access to EVM.
Posted by:Karan
- 23 Aug, 2010
120:
your vote counted against you only...this is the major difference where police and politician might have played a major role in last election.. this could be a major doubt a common man is having in his mind after this incidence in spotlight...
prem Replied to: Karan
- 23 Aug, 2010
121:
Such a shame. The tradition is our democracy to arrest / kill / tame the whistleblowers continues
Posted by:paramita
- 23 Aug, 2010
122:
Please forward this to our dear, yet aloof Prime Minister who never seems to care how our democratic values are trampled upon and how the rights of individuals are taken away so easily without any counter action.
Posted by:Kam
- 23 Aug, 2010
123:
Shameless govt, shameless politicians, shameless EC, wake up now.
Posted by:Ali
- 23 Aug, 2010
124:
Actually the politicialns should be in jail not hari..wht can we do apart write this
kesana Replied to: Ali
- 23 Aug, 2010
125:
Very good efforts by Hari...where is democracy?
Posted by:Mukund
- 23 Aug, 2010
126:
what can be done its easy to write comments here...
Posted by:deepti
- 23 Aug, 2010
127:
All of you welcome to kaliyuga. This enough proff that kaliyuga is at its good mature peak. In kaliyuga thieves and wrost fellows rule. Honest, truthful and innocent people are punished. The goondas that is the Rascal politicians conceived a very good cheating plan and later found that thier foul play is found out what else would goons do arrest the innocent. The time is not too far away when this news won't even come to press but they would kill the person who found this out. Great going India. You are maintaining the unbeatable first position in top corrupt countries list.
Posted by:dennis
- 23 Aug, 2010
128:
The Opposition parties which believe the EVM s are fraud should raise the issue in Parliament
Posted by:V V S Prasad
- 23 Aug, 2010
129:
Voting machines were used in Ireland briefly but they failed. Exposing the flaw in the system warrants attention to rectify the weaknesses and not to punish the person who points them out. Is this the kind of democracy we are offering our citizens? We all need to feel ashamed of the kind of people we chose as our representatives who allow the truth to be stifled.
Posted by:Dr Pradeep K Chadha
- 23 Aug, 2010
130:
lol, DO YOU STILL BELIEVE, WE CHOOSE THE PERSON WHO SITS THERE
SIMI Replied to: Dr Pradeep K Chadha
- 23 Aug, 2010
131:
This is a big shame to Indian Democracy. We feel proud of being the Biggest Democratic country. But we arrest and torture the person who found the EVM flaws and try to protect the democracy. Wake up Election commission ... You have some responsibility to stop such things and protect Indian Democracy. If EC is sincere enough it would have provided access to EVM for Prasad. This says how sincere our EC is in protecting democracy in India. All are corrupted ediots.
Posted by:Srinivas
- 23 Aug, 2010
132:
Where is the freedom loving public and where are political parties? Why no one is going to the defense of Prasad and challenging or protesting in streets for the abuse of power? The ruling class replaces the feudal class in democracy - every where in the world it is true and leaglized thevary has no solutions or justice in democracy or any other way of governing!
Morals, sincere expressions, good ethical values and attitude have no value left in governing or justice!
Morals, sincere expressions, good ethical values and attitude have no value left in governing or justice!
Posted by:Mukund
- 23 Aug, 2010
133:
There is certainly a reason to believe that voting fraud is existing in India. Just talk to the people in the know. Now the person trying to expose this, is arrested rather than election commission being thankful and trying to correct the problem. The government is definitely a part of this. Otherwise why this gentleman would be arrested. The elite of the society wanted it that way.
He is exercising his Fifth amendment right as they would say in America (guaranteed by the US constitution). BUT THIS INDIA.
He is exercising his Fifth amendment right as they would say in America (guaranteed by the US constitution). BUT THIS INDIA.
Posted by:New Delhi
- 23 Aug, 2010
134:
APPRECIATE PRASAD EFFORTS. GOVERNMENT NEED TO THINK BEFORE ACT
Posted by:simha
- 23 Aug, 2010
135:
I really agree with u .we should appreciate Hari prasad efforts ,the contribution he has made for our society,our system is such that they have their mind frame set that they dont want to hear the truth.....
and instead of taking any action against it they will search faults in that. This is really Ridiculous and not acceptable.
and instead of taking any action against it they will search faults in that. This is really Ridiculous and not acceptable.
Mani Replied to: simha
- 24 Aug, 2010
136:
The Political system of our country is already a big joke and any attempt made to ammend it or to question them is a crime.
"In a Democracy, People always get the governament they deserve" Alexis de Tocqueville.
This phrase is proved again and again.
"In a Democracy, People always get the governament they deserve" Alexis de Tocqueville.
This phrase is proved again and again.
Posted by:Uday
- 23 Aug, 2010
137:
Look at the attitude of the police and our government! It probably explains why Election commision refused to give smaple voting machines to Prasad. He has shown how faulty the systems are and how they could be altered by corrupt politicians/authorities. Election commision of India should wake up and thank him for fault finding and rectify those bugs.
Rajesh Replied to: Uday
- 23 Aug, 2010
138:
They already woke up and got him arrested.This is shameless EC in collusion with the Govt.
V V S Prasad Replied to: Rajesh
- 23 Aug, 2010
139:
Inspite of getting relevant issues to resolve and make machines real tamper-proof, they got the man arrested for some reason and now will definitely waste time in asking him questions.
EC very well knows that politicians have crores of assets worth in their/some anonymous names but EC behaves as if they are non-bias and very honest.
If so then how can they believe that politicians in India are having assets equal to a middle class person.
EC , change your perspective and get honest.
EC very well knows that politicians have crores of assets worth in their/some anonymous names but EC behaves as if they are non-bias and very honest.
If so then how can they believe that politicians in India are having assets equal to a middle class person.
EC , change your perspective and get honest.
bharat Replied to: V V S Prasad
- 23 Aug, 2010
140:
The exit poll which predicted that there will be a hung parliament was proved wrong once again my a miracle (EVM). Our other minister who lost the election won after recount. Jai Ho India.
Ram Replied to: bharat
- 23 Aug, 2010
141:
The commission should have genuine reasons for their actions. They have to give him a fair chance by giving him access to EVMs and prove his results.
meme Replied to: Ram
- 23 Aug, 2010
142:
i am ready to support Mr. Hari Prasad.... let us all extend our hands to support this great guy....
bhav Replied to: meme
- 24 Aug, 2010
143:
Arresting a professional can happen only in India. Politicians behind these arrests & CBI / Police heads should use their brain. what kind of innovation can happen in India and why Best Human resources should live in India and that is why Many of our Best Professionals are working abroad or to INternational Organisation. Its shameful but what to do when evern IAS / IPS / IFS are also harrassed, who could save INDIA> Especially what our Youngsters will feel about this kind of arrest.... Government of INdia should release him immediately and take apology on this issue. JAI HIND JAI HIND......
S Ethirajan Replied to: bhav
- 24 Aug, 2010
144:
responsible media channels like NDTV ,CNBC etc should immediately come into the scene along with courts who should publically debate the issue and protect the patriots who expose the basic flaw inthe the democratic setup on which India takes pride.Politicians and Bureaucrats would of course may not let it happen as it suits their corrupt practices.Its a national shame if such guys are troubled who take steps to strengthen our democracy
radha Replied to: bhav
- 24 Aug, 2010
145:
I m fully supporting Mr. Prasad.The EC shd the Prosecuted.
and if found guilty, he shd b kicked from a high altitute air craft on a mountain.
and if found guilty, he shd b kicked from a high altitute air craft on a mountain.
M.L.Bhattacharya Replied to: bhav
- 24 Aug, 2010
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