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India fast losing BPO jobs to Philippines

By SiliconIndia,Sunday, 27 December 2009, 18:33 Hrs
New Delhi: For about a decade, it was India's call centre boom, that defined it as the 'world's back office', much like neighboring China, which has been immortalized as the 'world's factory.' However the situation seems to be changing, as Philippines is fast taking over India's back office supremacy, with BPO service providers and customers seeming to favor this country as a better place for 'voice-related' work, reports Economic Times.
India fast losing BPO jobs to Philippines


"India has lost tens of thousands of jobs to the Philippines. The caliber of English is better and companies don't have to put up with the mess (that exists in India) there," says Pramod Bhasin, President and CEO of Genpact.

Some of the major hassles that India poses, include arranging transport for employees, security, power back-up in offices, and basic infrastructure that firms can take for granted in the Philippines. The country has become a preferred destination, especially with the U.S. companies, many of which are more comfortable with the English accent spoken there. U.S. customers account for over 50 percent of the global outsourcing business.

Ananda Mukherji, MD and CEO of BPO provider Firstsource Solutions, says that costs are more or less similar in both countries. This means the accent proficiency in the Philippines tips the scales in its favor.

According to the Economic Times, many of the Philippines' advantages are due to the U.S. rule, which bequeathed the English language to that country with its distinct accent along with a robust telecom and broadband network laid out by the U.S. defense forces.

Prabhakar Bisen, Head of the Philippines operations of WNS says, "Apart from affinity to the U.S. culture and English-speaking skills, the country's time zone advantages make the Philippines a natural choice for providing 24x7 service to global companies, particularly those based in the U.S."

Genpact, Wipro BPO, Intelenet, Aegis BPO and Firstsource are all ramping up their operations in Philippines. Genpact has about 2,000 employees there and expects to scale up operations by 40-50 percent in the next 12 months. Firstsource has about 500 staff in Manila, while WNS has increased staffing to 1,100 from 200 in the past 18 months, providing a mix of voice and back-office services for telecom, consumer products, travel and financial services clients.

In the past 12 months, Wipro BPO has set up a 1,000 seat centre in the Philippines' Cebu City, with staff there engaged in telecom, healthcare, energy and utilities-related tasks.

   
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1: Yes there should realize the reader to RSS my feed to RSS commentary, quite simply
Posted by: hooher tod - 04 Sep, 2011

2: I think most of this decrease and business loss is also beacuse many asian countries lik china have deveopled knowldge verticals means of KPOs and to expand their operations they are training people in english speaking skills and countries like US want to look for more English affinity which at the moment they find in small continents like philiphines etc and in longer run more pool of diverse domains as said before like healthcare etc is either present in these continents which lie in US timezones or either india
Posted by: Sharad Kumar Garg - 21 Jan, 2010

3:At the moment people are not diverse with KPO skills in exsiting hubs and it will take time for countries like china etc to gain these skills so they are goin 2 philipines etc
 Sharad Kumar Garg replied to: Sharad Kumar Garg 
 post - 21 Jan, 2010

4: LONG LIVE INDIA,LONG LIVE BOMBAY/ MUMBAI.JAI HIND,JAI MAHARASHTRA.
PROUD TO BE AN INDIAN
Posted by: MsM - 04 Jan, 2010

5: LONG LIVE INDIA,LONG LIVE BOMBAY/ MUMBAI.JAI HIND,JAI MAHARASHTRA.
PROUD TO BE AN INDIAN
Posted by: MsM - 04 Jan, 2010

6: Completely agree with what Mr.Indian has to say, for it is the future of a very large number of Indians might be severely affected and tainted to a large extent with the initiatives being taken by other countries. A recent report by gartner suggested that South Africa amongst all others is the biggest potential threat to the supremacy enjoyed by Indian service companies when it comes to back office F&A services. On a similar note it is Philipines who has been playing in the shadows since '08 and has now come to the forefront of voice services.

Sad thing is that our political big-wigs dont hear such alarms cos unfortunately 90% of them cannot understand english so forget them doing anything. Jaago re
Posted by: Rebel - 30 Dec, 2009

7:Thanks man ..
i really appreciate sharing the information regarding the south africa ...
 alok replied to: Rebel 
 post - 02 Jan, 2010

8: India is a "daraty cuntry", daraty ok. It dosent think about overall development in various field.
The reason it shows interest in IT & ITES is because the amt of revenue it gets in return.Very
easily the foreign countries shell out their $'rs, easy money for a lazy country.
So many candidates graduate in various dicipline, but after their graduation their first thought
is B P O because there isnt opportunity in the subject they have graduated.
Once upon a time.
There was a huge croude in front of "Embloyment opis".

Then
Then there was a huge croude in front of job fair
only going there to register and waiting 4 years

Then now IT & BPO
only going there to register and only few in thousands make it.

Nandan Nilekani,Azim Premji,Narayana Murthy they were all counted for their achivements.Who is achiving and who is getting the name.
are they all flicking now.Can they all perform now. Its all the working force that makes the atchivements.These fellows sit and make shit.

for all those idots in IT and ITES,
U people are mouthless bastards,Shameless creatures.
You dont standup and talk when there is a need for yourself.
you all work like pigs and slaves when you are asked to.
12hrs,13hrs,15hrs,dirty shift timings no week end leaves, sure name,no experiance, on future , nothing.
There are demands when they are needed to be made,
like fools you behave.
These companies are thriving with beggars like you fools.
you all node you heads to what ever the so called HR bastards preach, another
useless creatures evolved on earth, blody cunts.

Learn from the labourers and other workers unions what they do when they
need to place a demand.

Because you flocks shut your mouth and dont make demands the same principle
is followed other public sectors that is making life difficult to others. Dirty corporate setups.

with the introduction of IT and ITES sector, you people have contributed only boosting the cost of living.
This has led to economic imbalance on the whole population.
The indian govt is shielding behind these industries in the name of job opportunity, economic growth, only for
the govt and political bastards not for the common people.

Its better not to have these kind of (IT and ITES) work sectors rather than spreading wrong examples to other public
sectors.
You people become branded fools.
Try to think differently
Posted by: sjay - 29 Dec, 2009

9:dear sjay ..
100 % truth ... as its my own country and speaking like this feels junk, so rather i dont speak alike, but for sure, i feel alike ..... i have been into software industry for quite long time and seen all the pros and cons .... and you are right ... things are imposed on us as we are slaves ...

as being from Bihar, i have a different culture and i took some steps against these, but at the end i see that there is no point barking before buffaloes ..... like slaves still, at the end , what we want, is bread at the end of the day ... even at the cost of our own spirit and potential.... that simply makes me choke...

earlier i felt angry on such issues, but now i pity my own countrymen, who has no option but to either take harshest of lifestyle or succumb to such phenomena.

another thing is that the things that are taught to us from society and media always keeps us divided , not only on the name of caste, but on so many irrelevant issues that when i analyze, i feel, boss, another quit india movement is required... and guess what, we cannot see such subtle enemies , but unconsciously we are made to support such causes ....... we are made to go through a radio active reaction to finally burn ourselves and produce energy for our destroyers ..........

anyway ... nothing is permanent ..... neither this issue .... i hope we all will come to understand this and eradicate such situations sooner or latter, but the sooner the better ......

i just have a question to you .....
in your mind, what is the best and the most feasible solution to all such causes ?
 alok replied to: sjay 
 post - 02 Jan, 2010

10: India is a "daraty cuntry", daraty ok. It dosent think about overall development in various field.
The reason it shows interest in IT & ITES is because the amt of revenue it gets in return.Very
easily the foreign countries shell out their $'rs, easy money for a lazy country.
So many candidates graduate in various dicipline, but after their graduation their first thought
is B P O because there isnt opportunity in the subject they have graduated.
Once upon a time.
There was a huge croude in front of "Embloyment opis".

Then
Then there was a huge croude in front of job fair
only going there to register and waiting 4 years

Then now IT & BPO
only going there to register and only few in thousands make it.

Nandan Nilekani,Azim Premji,Narayana Murthy they were all counted for their achivements.Who is achiving and who is getting the name.
are they all flicking now.Can they all perform now. Its all the working force that makes the atchivements.These fellows sit and make shit.

for all those idots in IT and ITES,
U people are mouthless bastards,Shameless creatures.
You dont standup and talk when there is a need for yourself.
you all work like pigs and slaves when you are asked to.
12hrs,13hrs,15hrs,dirty shift timings no week end leaves, sure name,no experiance, on future , nothing.
There are demands when they are needed to be made,
like fools you behave.
These companies are thriving with beggars like you fools.
you all node you heads to what ever the so called HR bastards preach, another
useless creatures evolved on earth, blody cunts.

Learn from the labourers and other workers unions what they do when they
need to place a demand.

Because you flocks shut your mouth and dont make demands the same principle
is followed other public sectors that is making life difficult to others. Dirty corporate setups.

with the introduction of IT and ITES sector, you people have contributed only boosting the cost of living.
This has led to economic imbalance on the whole population.
The indian govt is shielding behind these industries in the name of job opportunity, economic growth, only for
the govt and political bastards not for the common people.

Its better not to have these kind of (IT and ITES) work sectors rather than spreading wrong examples to other public
sectors.
You people become branded fools.
Try to think differently .
Posted by: Sjay - 29 Dec, 2009

11: hey guys relax, i can see that all of us indians are confident that the future is very bright for ITES in India, but let us all talk like one Indian, lets forget who is from Mumbai or Gurgaon or in the end we all are Indians and want to see a better and more prosperous India.

the writer has touched a very sensitive subject here which has been a point of discussion at least for the last more than 2 years, i work for an ITES company which started its ops in PHP in year 2008, many other followed suit, reasons are many and PHP is not the only threat we all must know and realise that China has made English as a mandatory language in schooling. may be after 6-8 years they will be so bad in English so what are we talking here is the threat to Indian ITES companies due to better understanding of English in China and better accent in some other south east asian country but why are we forgetting that Indian brains are far too matured and skilled only the voice based business might be under a possible threat rest all back office work where tech skills are required, Indian education system is unmatched
yes we have a threat to voice based business that too can be mitigated provided there is political will to do so. tax benefits are going to see sunset in 2011 in India...what after that? why would WIPRO,WNS or anybody prefer India if they have to shell out taxes. and what infrastructure we have in India to support these companies. is there uninterrupted 24x7 power supply, are the bandwidth costs at their rock bottomprices, what govt has done to ensure residential areas near the work places to reduce transport costs. ? all these ques need to be answered. transport and electricity cost account or 4%-8% of the revenues. who will not like to convert these into margins.. its simple business. how is FICCI placed to put these points across to the ministries and convince them of the forex inflow that comes through these companies. lets not forget the contribution these cos have made in the huge forex reserves india has.

think through these ...... and anyone reading it who can have any impact on any of these areas of concern act now....
Posted by: Indian - 29 Dec, 2009

12: Well, for a change, bring down India's currency rates down again, to let us say 100 rupees to the dollar! That should get India going!
What a way for a nation to survive! It is a sinking ship, and hopefully it will not sink the rest of the world along with it.
Posted by: Ved from Victoria Institutiosn - 29 Dec, 2009

13: In general BPOs are businesses that increase flexibility for businesses or organizations by increasing the speed and reducing the time in which things are accomplished, and reduce inventory levels. Sometimes service levels are not met, sometimes there are contractual issues, changing requirements, outdated equipment, unforseen charges, and dependence on BPO\\\'s as though they are permanent employers. The BPO industry would or should then continue to grow within India (India supporting India) and to decline in offshore services.

I can understand where the Philippine peoples would toot their own horn because of receiving new jobs (and especially right now with a volcano about to or is errupting or their recent past flooding situation) but that is not or should not mean or sound like a put down to India. I assure you India\\\'s BPO accent is good. And what I see in responses in these blogs is very good. There are a few people still learning. I do wish Siliconindia would get a better program that would allow for English contractions though (like contraction for I'm instead of using I am). (ok, this is the 6th picture code I'm trying now).
Posted by: Christie Fox - 28 Dec, 2009

14:I don't know why is it necessary for you to mention volcano and flooding in your post, but I clearly understand that you have some sort of a grudge. You have a Katrina and your economic meltdown is one of the reason BPO is thriving anyways.

We have the best Call Center agents. The reason why tons of companies are putting up call centers in different regions in the Philippines. Big Indian companies are even putting or have placed their presence in our country accounting for more than 50,000 agents under them. So why in the world would they be here if they have a great pool of talents in India? The reason is simple, see my first sentence.

Indian will continue to thrive as their advantage are in the technical and managerial skills. Filipinos simply lacked managers to handle BPO businesses that is why there are lots of Indians holding positions in upper management here.

India needs to step up to the competition as in 15 years, we might also lose the so called "voice" jobs to China. I mean, have you seen their elementary students speaking English, they're good.
 FlipSide replied to: Christie Fox 
 post - 30 Dec, 2009

15: It is sad to note that we are loosing the opportunity even from this branch of earning resources and also need to really take care of the same plus we need to make our future gen aware of this also teach them the proper accent and utilization of the simple cum sophisticated language known as ENGLISH.Being a trainer of Voice and Accent I really feel embarrass to quote that we indians truly believe in hardship but rarely put our sincere efforts to improve self and to work for the betterment of our nation.
Posted by: Neeru - 28 Dec, 2009

16:What did you mean by the word "cum"? And I had to guess at the word gen (generation?)
 Christie Fox replied to: Neeru 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

17: This is just a glimpse of the future. I personally do not believe BPO needs to get out of India because of the "mess", but in a booming global economy where more and more people are using diversified products and services, customer support will be required and by the rule of business life-cycle, clients will have to look for more places to operate from. That does not mean the industry will have to die from this country. The overall population of Philippines is less than 25% of the working population in India. So, in future when Philippines get saturated with BPO jobs the clients will have to think other options also.

Clients have not considered China yet, just because of their poor English. If even 10% of entire Chinese working population, in mainland China, gets well versed with English, Indian IT & BPO industry will have to die out of hunger. As both of these industries are Service oriented and obviously quality bound but not bound to international boundaries. Technically, Chinese are much more advanced in Softwares, they are really hard working, no need to discuss about politics etc. So, they certainly have better work culture. My present company has lost more than 30% jobs in India to Chinese.

So scared from Filipino or Malaysians? Must stop now. Indians working in IT & BPO in India must be prepared for bigger international competition.

This is the right time to revise our work culture. Or else the same cycle which cost millions of jobs by Americans, English, Australian & Europeans in IT & BPO, will cost us too.
Posted by: Sky_Is_The_Limit - 28 Dec, 2009

18:will they ever wake up...?
 keymaker replied to: Sky_Is_The_Limit 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

19: If not, the future of IT & BPO with international clients is dark....
 Sky_Is_The_Limit replied to:  keymaker 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

20: Mr. Bhasin is right. Next will be IT Services of Application Management which will move to Philipines and Malaysia. Indians are useless bunch of people and a uncivilsed society. Indians will be left more and more "hungry" for DAILY FOOD very soon. IT is exiting India, soon it will be automobiles which will go out after selling millions of cars to ELIGIBLE people. God help me and my family to get out of this mess called India and settle in Developed country or philipines. I just want to dump the Indian passport FOREVER.
Posted by: MUMBAIKAR - 28 Dec, 2009

21:when a ship sinks , rats are the first to jump into the sea ..
boy .. i understand that our situation needs to be improved ..
but who will improve it ? we all, and you are one of us, we all have to put just one step ahead, and when millions like us, do the same, a great distance will be travelled ..
remember, the cultural calculations are never 1+1= 2, rather 1+1 = 11. a little support and help to our country form your end, will make difference .... please think in this direction also
 alok replied to: MUMBAIKAR 
 post - 02 Jan, 2010

22:Mr Mumbaikar,
Mind your words before talking aything against India. go to some slums in mumbai and just spend some days there. You dont find people like you even there. I pray god to just kick this mumbaikar out of this country as soon as possible. As far as automotive industries are concerned, this idiot is absolutely an illiterate. Please never comment some unwanted things here. Speak something about cycles rather than thinking too big. doesn't suit for your cheap character.
 savan replied to: MUMBAIKAR 
 post - 29 Dec, 2009

23:Give us a little time to rebuild, then you can move if you want to.
 Christie Fox replied to: MUMBAIKAR 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

24:This is the real face of a Mumbaikar who called themselves marathi manush (the people of Mr.Raj Takhery )
 diya replied to: MUMBAIKAR 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

25: This MUMBAIKAR canot be a marathi, I am 100% sure he belongs to the group of people who divided the country and still lives as a parasite here
 MUMBAIKAR replied to:  diya 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

26:I agree with you. But our current plight is because of people like you, running away from problems all the time. hiding in a cosy corner instead of facing the flak. The world lives on the blood of the courageous where in it's dark corners cowards like you hide.. go tremble somewhere else , BTW i think u r a paki trying to act indian. No son born to proper parents would speak like this... Gud luck in manila the heaven for western pedophiles...
 keymaker replied to: MUMBAIKAR 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

27: Please think... don't react defensively. The message is that Indians (like everyone else) have significant potential for self-improvement in the area of skill, infrastructure and operational set up. This will have positive effects not only for our competitiveness in the BPO sector, but in every aspect of country's life. Big businesses do not have any nationality. They will locate where it makes sense for them. This is a balance of many factors including cost, ease of doing business, being close to the customers, good infrastructure (transportation, schools etc), availability of talent, political stabiiity etc.... Let us not give up our competitive advantage. A country requires all kinds of jobs to cater to a wide range of skill levels available in the work-force. Else you get unrest.
Posted by: mks - 28 Dec, 2009

28:I would agree with this report. I manage processes in India & Philipllines. Filipino's certainly have an advantage in the Accent. So, they are good at Customer service jobs. However, if you want to do Tech Support or Back office work...India is still the place.
 Jaison replied to: mks 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

29:
"The caliber of English is better and companies don't have to put up with the mess (that exists in India)". He’s hit the nail on the head.

For starters, just read the calibre of English you find in the posts on this website. The grammar sucks and the errors in spelling are almost criminal. Indian-English sucks. Period. And the reason for that is correct English is no longer the medium of instruction in India, except for some private schools. All English speaking teachers, missionaries and priests were asked to leave "our bharat" and hand over the responsibility of teaching good English to teachers who are prone to speak and write in translated English.

Every word in any language is a concept, except for proper nouns and that is why a language, any language, is so precise. One cannot substitute a concept in one language for another, especially in English and expect to convey the original meaning.

I deal with people from the Philippines. And they are not "Gorra", they are of Polynesian descent. And their English IS much better.

If you want the calibre of English to improve in India, bring back the teachers.
Posted by: Anonumous - 28 Dec, 2009

30:Even an beggar in UK/US speaks good english. If you get my point, you would understand that language doesn't matter.
Take Japan for instance, they seldom speak good english, still they are the second largest economy, selling their goods throughout the world.
If Philippines is stealing our BPO jobs, then let us mature out from these "Service" jobs and create something new.

I think China's model is better in being world's factory.
 Anish replied to: Anonumous 
 post - 29 Dec, 2009

31:their English might be good but their attitude (from my being on the phone with them) suks. I've gotten hung up on more times than I want to count.
 Christie Fox replied to: Anonumous 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

32:dear ,
with whom have you interacted to form such a skewed opinion / what makes you think that Indians write in translated english! many of the acclaimed fiction writers who have won booker prize etc are Indian who reside in India ! The BPO staff are not very qualified graduates , if they were why would they join a mundane BPO job ? on other hand India is a country where only about 5% would read and converse in English of which about 2% would be proficient , which makes the number of proficient to about 26 million , what is the population of Philippines by your estimate ? It is always good to have a balanced view !
 nath replied to: Anonumous 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

33:If not for the Internet your ignorance would never have been exposed
 Joe Brodway replied to: Anonumous 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

34:The missionaries, priests and teachers came here to preach christianity, not to teach us English, it's very funny that you want them to come back
 Sitaram replied to: Anonumous 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

35: They might have come to preach, but they did teach us a whole world of other things and made us better people. And about bringing them back... tats nt required, bt a massive change in the education system is definitely required.
A survey by NASSCOM says only 25% of tech graduates are qualified to get a job (be it any discipline) & 53% of the employed are under employed (less than 75,000/annum). It also points points out lack of fluency in Eng, inability to give a oral presentation & inability to work in a team as reasons for this.
On the out set it looks as if this problem could be sorted out at ease, however in reality it can only happen if the Govt. brings in more stringent rules & regulation for school/college licence and a minimum competency standard should be fixed for all teaching staffs.
This way we can at least make sure our work force has better standards.
 Cax replied to:  Sitaram 
 post - 30 Dec, 2009

36: I agree with the observation that Philippines' affinity to U.S. culture and english-speaking skills are a plus factor for them. There is no point in fuming over this situation and cursing them. Indians must accept and move on. There are so many other things that we are good at.
Posted by: Raj - 28 Dec, 2009

37:Well said Raj.
 Jaru replied to: Raj 
 post - 19 Apr, 2010

38: I dis agree with you. Now I am working in Abudhabi, Previously i worked Saudi Arabia along with Philippines. thier english is worse compare to indians. Other reasons involves.I connot write here openly......their cultute is worst than europions...they can do anything except job also. and they are GORRA THATS ADVANTAGE FOR THEM. dO YOU KNOW mOST OF THE PHILLIPPINES ARE sINGLE MOM.....SO.....CAN you IMMAGINE ...their culture. Not all but most of the.
Posted by: chinni - 28 Dec, 2009

39:What language is this?
 jaru replied to: chinni 
 post - 09 Jan, 2010

40:I am a Filipino and I find your post with your grammar as so funny.

Oh wait, you're serious!
 FlipSide replied to: chinni 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

41: have you noticed my post? Filipino attitude suks on BPO. And I'm an American in America so I know. This article is about BPO and not to cut down the grammar. See, I proved my point.
 Christie Fox replied to:  FlipSide 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

42: Where's your point?
 jojo  replied to: Christie Fox 
 post - 09 Jan, 2010

43: So why are your fellow americans trooping to the Philippines instead of India?
 omar  replied to: Christie Fox 
 post - 09 Jan, 2010

44: In fact, American companies are leaving the US for India, the Philippines, and others because American bpo agents suck and are intellectually inferior.
 omar replied to: omar 
 post - 09 Jan, 2010

45:OMG. Your English is so good.
 Sarla replied to: chinni 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

46: ya... ha ha.. he is so exited...
 Maegsh replied to:  Sarla 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

47: Excuse me, Ms. American from America. I didn't know that grammar is not important in BPO.
 FlipSide  replied to: Christie Fox 
 post - 29 Dec, 2009

48: it's called chat lingo you moronic malodorous monkey .
 keymaker  replied to: Maegsh 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

49: Ah ok, so is that the language morons are using in chatting?
 moron replied to: keymaker 
 post - 09 Jan, 2010

50: Indians surely are known for their Intelligence when it comes to IT, Finance, Medcine, Engineering & All Other Measured Up Professions. Joining BPO Sector Is always a Choice When any Professional Doesnt get Job Either from University Placement or due to other reasons. These Fresh Students have no other choice to Start their Career as a customer Support Agent until they Get Job in their Respective Field. Middle of the thing is no educated Person would Work For Long until he gets a Move To Join his Actual Field or Destination. BPO Job is same like Driving a Truck in US/Uk/Aussie as you can say no education is required in both of the fields because driving need driving skills and BPO needs english Skills. No professional will do thesejobs forever if he has other options

Phillipnes is Country Where People Come From Secretarial Skills and Enjoy Work Related to Arts Background. Under no Condition Phillipne People are Far Better in Voice Skills and if we compare the Cost its almost same for BPO Business in india or Phils. Few Years ago GE(General Electric) Outsourced its call center to India and Found many Un-satisfactory Results from Customers. GE had to Immediately Shift its Call Center to Phillipines and its Working Fine there until now.

I beleive MNC is always Concerned about two things Quality and Cost If u get Both things Together they dont care its india or Phillipnes they just switch and Stick with Better Option to retain their Customers.

For Sure BPO Industry soon Will be Shut Down in India Or These BPO Giants having their business in India will start their Subsidiary in Phillipines Eventually leaving no BPO Jobs in india.

Professionals in india dont have to Worry as india is Widely Growing in other Sectors and lot of Opeertunities exist however People who just think BPO as their life time career are in big risk and will soon realize the consequences as thier work experince will also not be counted anywhere in other sectors because a BPO Job is just about speaking english with a twisted tongue.
Posted by: Singh_Consultant - 28 Dec, 2009

51:"Indians surely are known for their Intelligence when it comes to IT, Finance, Medcine, Engineering & All Other Measured Up Professions"

Yes. I agree on this. Indians are known for their skills and being dirty. :)

A testament to their good engineering skills is the bridge that recently collapsed. And in terms of medicine, I wonder why Indian medical doctors can not educate the people that peeing, defacating, taking a bath and drinking on the same source of water is dangerous to the health.
 Avatar replied to: Singh_Consultant 
 post - 07 Oct, 2010

52:"Phillipnes is Country Where People Come From Secretarial Skills and Enjoy Work Related to Arts Background."

I do not know what that means "people come from secretarial skills"!

 FlipSide replied to: Singh_Consultant 
 post - 14 Jan, 2010

53: i knew it india sux..lived for 2 years in gurgaon I know it well...just because of crappy politics. I want to get rid of this place asap.
Posted by: abk - 28 Dec, 2009

54:Hi abk, please leave our country and go back to the country you came from as India is for Indians from different regions of India and not neighbouring countries of India. We respect people of different cultures but not at the cost of ours. We were good, are good and will always be good...........its only the attitudes that change. One should have the right attitude and should know where to use it.
 An INDIAN replied to: abk 
 post - 16 May, 2011

55:well my fren... y don u gt de heck out of our country, nd wrk in a country where politicians r good (i assume tat country could b in MARS)... Gud luck finding it :)
 Cax replied to: abk 
 post - 30 Dec, 2009

56:Please getout of India...
Are you still in India?
 sekhar replied to: abk 
 post - 29 Dec, 2009

57:Get lost from India ASAP and search for a job somewhere in philliphines or Pakistan. I interact with philliphines people on phone and their english is really bad with a bad accent.
 MKR replied to: abk 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

58:Why dont you submit your passport (if you have one) relenquish your indian citizenship (if you are one) and pls leave the country to some better place you would love to be in.
 Super dude replied to: abk 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

59: I WOULD SAY GOOD RIDDANCE.. THESE BPOS ARE DESTROYING OUR CULTURE AND SOCIETY AND SOONER THEY GET OUT THE BETTER FOR OUR NATION... MONEY IS AFTER ALL NOT EVERYTHING..
Posted by: shiva - 28 Dec, 2009

60: my name is chanchal singh shahi
Posted by: chanchal - 28 Dec, 2009

61: If Mr. Pramod Bhasin is so concerned about the so called 'mess' here, I wonder what is he doing working in a country like India. Its a shame that he uses such words for the business environment here when he himself has made millions from this industry.
Posted by: Ashok Pradhan - 28 Dec, 2009

62:True!beside that he is just promoting Philippine because he has to pay less to the employees over there and cost of operation would be less.when situation in India get better(which is mess according to him), then he would do a flip flop.
 Javed replied to: Ashok Pradhan 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

63: you are right ! but i feel, we should look at ourselves rather than checking out what others are saying .

recently i have started my own business setup, and it really hurts if you find that your own country men , who creates huge problems to your growth, and today, you cannot just earn and live in the business world, you have to compete with all the frogs out there, who might be less capable, but due to support from their society, they beat you right up on your nose when it comes to business.


when he says mess, though it feels bad, but i accept, its like this, our own people create unnecessary issues that waste your time and mood and feeling goes rotten, thats a fact, any business owner , who of course does not use corrupt means to move ahead, will share the same history out here, boss, i also love my country, but we should not ignore our negative qualities, if these are there, these are there, saying no does not help, what helps is accepting and then improving on it , else, we will keep shouting our praise, and others who are really not so good , will keep on improving and one day, we will feel that we have just last the valuable time
 alok replied to:  Javed 
 post - 02 Jan, 2010

64: It is called Life cycle which is basically for products not for service hence the moment a service is mass commercialized and focussed as a Product with packages / schemes the model follows the following stages consisting of 1.Introduction, 2. Growth, 3. Maturity, 4. Decline. Remember Work is God n Health is Wealth Solution is to crate an everlasting Relationship by gaining Trust and Customization as per the clients special requirements.
Posted by: Gods must be crazy - 28 Dec, 2009

65:no, god is really heavy
 saka replied to: Gods must be crazy 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

66: India is a "daraty cuntry", daraty ok. It dosent think about overall development in various field.
The reason it shows interest in IT & ITES is because the amt of revenue it gets in return.Very
easily the foreign countries shell out their $'rs, easy money for a lazy country.
So many candidates graduate in various dicipline, but after their graduation their first thought
is B P O because there isnt opportunity in the subject they have graduated.
Once upon a time.
There was a huge croude in front of "Embloyment opis".

Then
Then there was a huge croude in front of job fair
only going there to register and waiting 4 years

Then now IT & BPO
only going there to register and only few in thousands make it.

Nandan Nilekani,Azim Premji,Narayana Murthy they were all counted for their achivements.Who is achiving and who is getting the name.
are they all flicking now.Can they all perform now. Its all the working force that makes the atchivements.These fellows sit and make shit.

for all those idots in IT and ITES,
U people are mouthless bastards,Shameless creatures.
You dont standup and talk when there is a need for yourself.
you all work like pigs and slaves when you are asked to.
12hrs,13hrs,15hrs,dirty shift timings no week end leaves, sure name,no experiance, on future , nothing.
There are demands when they are needed to be made,
like fools you behave.
These companies are thriving with beggars like you fools.
you all node you heads to what ever the so called HR bastards preach, another
useless creatures evolved on earth, blody cunts.

Learn from the labourers and other workers unions what they do when they
need to place a demand.

Because you flocks shut your mouth and dont make demands the same principle
is followed other public sectors that is making life difficult to others. Dirty corporate setups.

with the introduction of IT and ITES sector, you people have contributed only boosting the cost of living.
This has led to economic imbalance on the whole population.
The indian govt is shielding behind these industries in the name of job opportunity, economic growth, only for
the govt and political bastards not for the common people.

Its better not to have these kind of (IT and ITES) work sectors rather than spreading wrong examples to other public
sectors.
You people become branded fools.
Try to think differently .
Posted by: anonymous - 28 Dec, 2009

67:first make gurgon better then talk
 ask replied to: anonymous 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

68: Hi,

This is Ramakrishna from India.i am happy to say this moment.i am looking for a suitable job.there is any requirement inform me.

Regards

Ramakrishna Devathi
Posted by: Ramakrishna - 28 Dec, 2009

69: India is emerging is almost developed country, where the cost of living is increasing and indirectly becoming expensive.
where as the other eastern country has got much better scope to our like jobs - therefore, we have to check Vietnam, Philippine, Sri Lanka, Malaysia and Indonesia to keep ourself abreast.
Posted by: uppukar - 28 Dec, 2009

70:for india future is great
 balia replied to: uppukar 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

71: This is the best time to prove our self that we are the best than any body else
Posted by: Jit  - 28 Dec, 2009

72: Lakshmi mam, I don have job, could you pls help me to get a job.
Posted by: ish - 27 Dec, 2009

73:sure,give me u r biodata i will try.
address - apply@yahoo.com
 depu replied to: ish 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

74:Are u a person only capable of working in BPO centre... if so not... u have huge number of opportunity to get a good job...in India.
 Lakshmi replied to: ish 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

75: This is the time to boost up our energies we have to provide more efficient and accurate type of information to our clients.. We toook this as a granted that's the reason we are loosing confidence.. Yes that's true that Philippines are good but we can provide better services.. Nobody is best yet...
Posted by: Pardeep - 27 Dec, 2009

76: M worried about the people who are working in Indian callcenters now like me... Whats the future goin to be...
Posted by: Raj - 27 Dec, 2009

77:Hey need not worry, the complete industry couldnot be shifted to Phillipines, thye have different political structure compared of us. Only the advantages are mentioned in the above passage, we cannot say Phillipines will take all the jobs of Indian BPO industry. Most often companies prefer Indians rather other because of the hard work and extra time we work. That is not possible in Philipines. Only accent is the only problem for us and advantage they have. The cost of labour is less there but the work timings are very strict, they wont work like Indians. So still we are the leaders and we will be...
 Anbu replied to: Raj 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

78: Yes Raj, you are right. One thing I am disagree with you is accent of Phillipine people,it is not so good as it is statd above.Actually I am in Dubai alongwith the Phillipine couligues, most of them cannot talk perfect english.Only thing jobs are going there because of there similarity of culture with Europians (which is very worst- worst than animals).and as they presented themselves in front of these GORI CHAMADI.
 Pramod replied to:  Anbu 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

79:Do not worry buddy its the time to prove yourself everybody wants a better service.. Cant think that someone else is good or bad just focus on your skills and provide your best service..
 Deep replied to: Raj 
 post - 27 Dec, 2009

80: This is a wakeup call to the Indian BPO Industry, we could definetly do with some healthy competition to improve our quality and deliverability.
 Shravanth replied to:  Deep 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

81: Why u ask such question? dont know \"Survival of the fittest\" thats what u can see here... ish
Posted by: Lakshmi - 27 Dec, 2009

82:Its not about survival of fittest.
Business location is shifting not the manpower.
 Dharmendra replied to: Lakshmi 
 post - 27 Dec, 2009

83: I am saying about management not the manpower
 Lakshmi replied to:  Dharmendra 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

84: philippines is better
Posted by: sum - 27 Dec, 2009

85: Hello Aysha, Are you from Philippines?
Posted by: ish - 27 Dec, 2009

86:Hello Ish, yes i am from Philippines
 aysha replied to: ish 
 post - 27 Dec, 2009

87: Philippines is a better place for 'voice-related' work.
Posted by: aysha - 27 Dec, 2009

88:Give me your photo, I have girl friends in Dubai, they are from Philippines. I never seen Aysha name in philipine group.
 3idiots replied to: aysha 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

89:Indians surely are known for their Intelligence when it comes to IT, Finance, Medcine, Engineering & All Other Measured Up Professions. Joining BPO Sector Is always a Choice When any Professional Doesnt get Job Either from University Placement or due to other reasons. These Fresh Students have no other choice to Start their Career as a customer Support Agent until they Get Job in their Respective Field. Middle of the thing is no educated Person would Work For Long until he gets a Move To Join his Actual Field or Destination. BPO Job is same like Driving a Truck in US/Uk/Aussie as you can say no education is required in both of the fields because driving need driving skills and BPO needs english Skills. No professional will do thesejobs forever if he has other options

Phillipnes is Country Where People Come From Secretarial Skills and Enjoy Work Related to Arts Background. Under no Condition Phillipne People are Far Better in Voice Skills and if we compare the Cost its almost same for BPO Business in india or Phils. Few Years ago GE(General Electric) Outsourced its call center to India and Found many Un-satisfactory Results from Customers. GE had to Immediately Shift its Call Center to Phillipines and its Working Fine there until now.

I beleive MNC is always Concerned about two things Quality and Cost If u get Both things Together they dont care its india or Phillipnes they just switch and Stick with Better Option to retain their Customers.

For Sure BPO Industry soon Will be Shut Down in India Or These BPO Giants having their business in India will start their Subsidiary in Phillipines Eventually leaving no BPO Jobs in india.

Professionals in india dont have to Worry as india is Widely Growing in other Sectors and lot of Opeertunities exist however People who just think BPO as their life time career are in big risk and will soon realize the consequences as thier work experince will also not be counted anywhere in other sectors because a BPO Job is just about speaking english with a twisted tongue.
 Singh_Consultant replied to: aysha 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

90: I am pretty glad that the BPO proliferation is winding down. Its been high time that India moved away from service sector, start using brains and get into R&D and product development

There should be good growth in other core areas such as agriculture, construction, skilled labour etc. These areas need to be attractive and encourage people to take it up as a matter of their interest, temperament and choice - rather than "this job pays you more. you just need to speak a differnt acccent"

The 'BPO culture' has really spoilt a lot of young people who end up virtually 'skill-less'. ( I dont consider speaking a foreign accent as a very transfferable skill)

But yeah, this transition with the inevitable job losses is going to hurt a lil bit.
 Arjun replied to:  Singh_Consultant 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

91: I completely agree with Arjun. There are huge opportunities in other sectors in India that needs to exploited.
 Anish  replied to: Arjun 
 post - 29 Dec, 2009

92: completely agree BPO is a brain drain industry killing innovativeness and entrepreneurship of youths . The country will move by leaps and bounds even without the BPO industry .
 nitesh   replied to: Arjun 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

93: adding on,
I have nothing against folk working in BPO. but the numbers is what worries me. hundreds of thousands specializing in a skill of 'accent' and services which cannot be transffered to some other kind of work domestically would be a cause of concern.
This might cause a bad demand-supply pattern, where the work culture also takes a hit due to excessive competition for limited resources
 Arjun  replied to: Arjun 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

94: Mr Basin is a big big big hole you know what i mean ask him to keep his this shut
 hari replied to: Arjun 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

95:Mr. Bhasin is right. Next will be IT Services of Application Management which will move to Philipines and Malaysia. Indians are useless bunch of people and a uncivilsed society. Indians will be left more and more "hungry" for DAILY FOOD very soon. IT is exiting India, soon it will be automobiles which will go out after selling millions of cars to ELIGIBLE people. God help me and my family to get out of this mess called India and settle in Developed country or philipines. I just want to dump the Indian passport FOREVER.
 MUMBAIKAR  replied to: hari 
 post - 28 Dec, 2009

96:
Mr Mumbaikar or watever,
Mind your words before talking aything against India. go to some slums in mumbai and just spend some days there. You dont find people like you even there. I pray god to just kick this mumbaikar out of this country as soon as possible. As far as automotive industries are concerned, this idiot is absolutely an illiterate. Please never comment some unwanted things here. Speak something about cycles rather than thinking too big. doesn't suit for your cheap character.
 savan  replied to: MUMBAIKAR 
 post - 29 Dec, 2009

97: Mumbaikar, get-out of INDIA. We dont want fools, idiots. India is always been Great. The Oldest greatest civilizations in earth.

India is the fewest of the countries which never invaded on any country in spite of having power. It is having a never-ending pool of resources.

We keep evolving and nourishing the world.
 Vasudev  replied to: MUMBAIKAR 
 post - 29 Dec, 2009

98: Mr Mumbaikar,you call yourself a "MUMBAIKAR" & yet you are insulting this great city & country of ours.You people are only meant to change the names of villages,towns,cities etc.,you cannot do anything profitable for this great city & country of ours.You are an uneducated,illiterate,uncouth,adulterated son of a bitch from some remote,backward village come to this great city of ours to make lots of ill-gotten wealth by entering into politics or some other dirty profession where you cannot do anything that improves this great city or do anything for its poor & unemployed people,let alone do anything profitable for your own disgusting self.So before you talk or blog about this great city & country of ours,go & get educated,go back to school,go get a decent job,do something for this great city of ours,if not for your disgusting self because you are full of shit,you illiterate bastard.Or better still go back to your village & improve its condition Or better still leave INDIA & live in Pakistan or Bangladesh because there they will screw your ass so bad that you will forget going to the loo before you shit from your dirty,stinking mouth.LONG LIVE INDIA,LONG LIVE BOMBAY.JAI HIND,JAI MAHARASHTRA.
 PROUD TO BE AN INDIAN  replied to: Vasudev 
 post - 29 Dec, 2009
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