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IT firms to check attrition, think beyond salary hikes
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SiliconIndia,Thursday, 29 July 2010, 02:51 Hrs
Bangalore: IT firms are fully determined to decrease the attrition level in their respective organizations. India's top IT firma are offering mid term hikes, promotions and restricted stocks to keep the employees loyal towards the company.
Now when the global economy is improving, most of the Indian IT firms are offshoring more work to save costs and at the same time, the IT firms are looking for employees experienced with three to seven years, who can deliver quality codes to their customers, reports Poornima Mohandas and Raghu Krishnan of the Mint.
"85 to 90 percent of IT-ITeS companies now are looking at off cycle compensation related interventions such as retention bonuses, off cycle salary increases and equity based incentives to control this situation," said Sandeep Chaudhary, performance rewards consulting practice, South and West Asia, Hewitt Associates.
The IT biggies are bringing in a new trend in the industry. Infosys has raised its hiring plans to 36,000 from 30,000 for the year 2011 and at the same time, TCS plans to hire 40,000 people.
Now when the global economy is improving, most of the Indian IT firms are offshoring more work to save costs and at the same time, the IT firms are looking for employees experienced with three to seven years, who can deliver quality codes to their customers, reports Poornima Mohandas and Raghu Krishnan of the Mint.
"85 to 90 percent of IT-ITeS companies now are looking at off cycle compensation related interventions such as retention bonuses, off cycle salary increases and equity based incentives to control this situation," said Sandeep Chaudhary, performance rewards consulting practice, South and West Asia, Hewitt Associates.
The IT biggies are bringing in a new trend in the industry. Infosys has raised its hiring plans to 36,000 from 30,000 for the year 2011 and at the same time, TCS plans to hire 40,000 people.
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Posted by: Jagannath - 31 Jul, 2010
15: Whatever anybody does to decrease the
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aaraksheet replied to: Rangaswamy
post - 01 Aug, 2010
post - 01 Aug, 2010
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post - 31 Jul, 2010
post - 31 Jul, 2010
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post - 01 Aug, 2010
post - 01 Aug, 2010
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post - 31 Jul, 2010
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Rangaswamy replied to: Amit
post - 01 Aug, 2010
post - 01 Aug, 2010
22:hi Rangaswamy,
I agree with your point here..we ofter forget to give our share of time to our family and loved one. And we realized this when it is too late.
If it is fine, pls share your experience, how you came out of it.
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I agree with your point here..we ofter forget to give our share of time to our family and loved one. And we realized this when it is too late.
If it is fine, pls share your experience, how you came out of it.
Dinesh
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post - 31 Jul, 2010
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Niranjan replied to: Rangaswamy
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
26: Actually I don't think that attrition is only
due to salary related things but it is mainly
due the work environment, long and exhausted
working hours ,stress between boss and
employee relationship and at last comes the
factor salary which is totally justified as
the IT employees are always under payed.So
work should be done on these areas to curb
the attrition rate..
So some
So some
Posted by: Soumya ranjan patnaik - 30 Jul, 2010
27: Dear a company is to earn profit and also to
pay good package to the employees. Therefore,
attrition of employees at any point of time
is not desired. Let the company pay enough
amount to their employees not to have
financial worries at any point of time and
could delver maximum to the employer.
Posted by: P.S.Thakur - 30 Jul, 2010
28:It sounds harsh but, where HR is paid bonus
to keep talent at low cost, attrition is a
must happening phenomenon. Low cost in the
sense, if a person is paid 6 Lac a yr and has
no work to do, then to save himself he has to
leave and go there where he can be associated
with work. Even if he is associated with work
he is working more than 12 hrs a which means
4 hour a day extra and 88 hrs or about 4 days
extra a month and more than a month extra a
year a same remuneration, is it really viable
to follow?
Sandip De replied to: P.S.Thakur
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
29: Why only IBM. HR policies of other
multinational companies like Accenture are
equally same. In accenture your experience is
of no value, there is only value for your
subordination to supervisor. Rating is given
on basis of subordination to supervisor. This
is the reason why attrition rate in Accenture
is one of the highest in India.
Posted by: Khan - 30 Jul, 2010
30: This is all life, game.
Now this is time for IT guys, They have to utilize their time as all companies did earlier.
Dont be loyal to ur company, No company love their employee and no employee loves their company, Its all mutual agreement and commitment.
Now this is time for IT guys, They have to utilize their time as all companies did earlier.
Dont be loyal to ur company, No company love their employee and no employee loves their company, Its all mutual agreement and commitment.
Posted by: Chandrasekhar - 30 Jul, 2010
31:You are absoulately correct, if you are loyal
to the company no matter for how many years
they will not hike your salary or give
promotion, company's not only IT's or BPO's
like AllSEC will promote all stupid people
& loose their projects.
peter replied to: Chandrasekhar
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
32: Attrition seems the pain in the neck for
every company now. Its easy to let go people
and its very hard to hire smart resources.
This is my experience since I was on
interview panel for last 4 years. Salary
hikes might not help this time, treat them
like a resource not like a commodity. This
generation of employees is aware, well read
and ambitious. They understands management
games and ironically management doesn't
accept that
Posted by: Sushil Shinde - 30 Jul, 2010
33:Well Said, agree with you comments above. I
am one of the IT prof serving notice period
in my current company. They(Management) seem
lack the understanding on whats the
expectation from a employee perspective and
they have just one unilateral view which does
not help.
Sandeep replied to: Sushil Shinde
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
34:very true.
vishal sachan replied to: Sushil Shinde
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
35: I think changing a job is not a better
option.... By changing the company you are
just moving to other software company, where
there will be new set of problems.... Just
change your attitude..... What you wish you
can gain in the same company..... It's just
my thought(may be no one agrees with it):)
Posted by: Vijay - 30 Jul, 2010
36:I left my company because they had started
firing. The new company that I joined fired
me after 6 months saying market condition is
bad. Then i negotiated with them and they
agreed to retain me by giving 67% of the
salary offered. This was far less than my
salary in previous company. Somehow i stayed
loyal and didnt try elsewhere. Once other
companies started hiring, my company gave
20-30% hikes to everybody and gave me my
original salary and said treat this as a
hike. What can I do? I quit again to join
another company which gave me 30% hike. This
is how companies behave. Its very difficult
to show loyalty in IT industry
*KK* replied to: Vijay
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
37:I agree with Vijay,
because person is again same joining next company.
unhappy spouse always endup marrying wrong partner.
because person is again same joining next company.
unhappy spouse always endup marrying wrong partner.
Rivesh replied to: Vijay
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
38:ViJay, as far as compensation is concerned
that problem is definitely solved for
changing job. n all these companies are
giving off-cycle increments to solve that
problem only. At least ppl like me who have
no problems other than being under-paid would
have stayed.
NIks replied to: Vijay
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
39:so you alone is going to change ur company.
changing attitude will force ur company to
change their incremental figure.? :)
vishal sachan replied to: Vijay
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
40:Can you plz give us ur mail id so that we can
apply in ur company if it treats its
employees that gr8....
Ajay replied to: Vijay
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
41: Love your job not your company. Once if your
company stops loving you,........?
Posted by: siva - 29 Jul, 2010
42:It is true
One should have passion towards his/her job rather having passion in companies’ brands.
One should have passion towards his/her job rather having passion in companies’ brands.
nar replied to: siva
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
43: Agree with the 3 factors, but HR practices
also add much to it. HR generally tries and
figures out some trivial issues with a person
and then blames that as a reason for lower
salary hike and recognition in terms of
appropriate grade.
These kind of practices pull down the moral and an employee looses work ownership rather starts dragging and thinks of hopping.
These kind of practices pull down the moral and an employee looses work ownership rather starts dragging and thinks of hopping.
Posted by: Parag - 29 Jul, 2010
44:Thats right loyalty has no meaning in the
current and future generation of work places.
Ganesh Ram replied to: Parag
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
45:I dont care any HR executive . I have seen in
various MNC no body gives value them.. ..i
think after some days that policy will be
abolish.. .I love my work and my job and dont
have any passions to company. If my work is
gud den everything okay...no issues and no
conflicts .......anyone may be beleive or not
but its my thought.. its from my past
experience
Sanjib replied to: Parag
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
46: I don't think every company is doing this..
IBM is one of those company who is giving 0%
increment to its employees even after 2 years
of service. No Plans for their Band
promotions. I will suggest better not to Join
IBM if you have offer from other company.
If already joined, Change as fast as you can.
If already joined, Change as fast as you can.
Posted by: Amit - 29 Jul, 2010
47:I agree with this . IBM sucks . No promotions
. No hikes even after 2 years.
Sachin Singla replied to: Amit
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
48:plz withdraw your offer letter try to join
any other compny ..plz dont join IBM..its my
best suggestion ..if you are married then
sure lots of finanncial ppblem dear..plz
away..hehehe
Sanjib replied to: Amit
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
49: I agree with u. In IBM, experienced ppl and
freshers, they all get the same paycheck. No
hikes in last 2 yrs.
h(ike)-> 0 :P LOL
h(ike)-> 0 :P LOL
Shilpa replied to: Amit
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
50: hehehehe...dont write anything about IBM
..still I was suffering here last two
years...only single digit hike..one of conjus
compny in world..finally i decided not to
stay no more time and put the resignation and
i am enjyoing my new job with ralxing package
and gud work also..dont try to join IBM ..you
face same problem there.
Sanjib replied to: Shilpa
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
51: Yes You are 101% true. I am is the bull shit
company. In IBM US I have seen ppl getting
very good hikes where as IBM India never
gives any hike but they send emails to all
employees monthly about the quarterly Profits
etc...They get the hell lot of work done by
employees. They never care for employees,
Managers are also like real bull shits and
also shoe reginal feeling like Kolkatta
managers are special case they only support
resources of kolkatta and leadership team
also belongs to there only. so nobody can bet
them...I am in IBM from 4 years but never got
any hike and unfortunately this year I got
that too 400INR increment in monthly
Salary..This is hell happnes in IBM
India..they never care employees..
Ujala replied to: Sanjib
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
52: very true... to hell with these idiotic
kolkatta and mallu so called managers... some
azzz who cant bloody speak a grammatic
sentese is made a second line and SDL and
stuff... sick ppl and sick culture... IBM
might be a best company but it lacks
leaders... low level mangement really
screwing up the motto of the company... count
ut manager moles and u get promoted and wht
not..I am out of tht shit way long back.. U
ll never know wht have u joined for and wht
have u turned up to...trust me guys ... never
ever dare to walk near tht premisis...I
Better Move from India Trouble Desk is wht
ppl, am sure of thinking now...where on earth
do u see a non-techy guy handling tech
projects...and the ans is IBM...hehehehe
rockstar replied to: Ujala
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
53:Thats true... Do not jump in by the brand
name.. U will have to join IBM only when u
have plans to retire not before that..
Swaroop replied to: Amit
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
54: I would not suggest that also, when you want
only 2 to 4% increment then only join IBM
India. They hardly gives hike sometimes it
might be 0%. They give pdf letters saying you
have hike of 0% which I got in 2008. They are
not bothered about employees at all. Noe they
made 3 month notice mandatory to retain
employees, becoz of which lot of employees
are struggling..with new company notice
issue..so becareful if you wnan join IBM
India...where as IBM US is good..if you wana
join IBM in US that is good one to join...
Ujala replied to: Swaroop
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
55: Absolutely right.. try to join IBM at the
time of retirement time..gud luck guys..
Sanjib replied to: Swaroop
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
56:Hey man not only IBM but same situation in
Some Project of 3i-infotech CSL s Employee
face same Problem.
Sanjay replied to: Amit
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
57:Yaa I agree it....
no financial growth once you joined IBM.
no financial growth once you joined IBM.
Anj replied to: Amit
post - 29 Jul, 2010
post - 29 Jul, 2010
58: I can say 0% growth if you join IBM both
personal and financial growth will become 0.
If you want to skip from work and don't want
money then join IBM..I am there from 4 years
so I can suggest you not to join..
Ujala replied to: Anj
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
59: No technical growth also. And they change ur
complete core skill set.
han replied to: Anj
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
60: I fully agree with you.. there will be more
meetings rather than work.. Daily you will
have meetings compulsory..will not have any
technical growth..ge salary on tie but will
not get hikes for ever. I mean ince you join
no body cares as they have 1Lakh employees in
IBM india. they dont know the value of
employee
Ujala replied to: han
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
61: ya.. its true... thats why i left IBM within
6 month
abhishek replied to: han
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
62: Very true ppl.IBM sucks
It doesnt matter how much you work hard
last year no hike
this year f...ing 8%.
Dont know what is their strategy.They just seem to not care about employee retention.If this is the situation when IBM is gaining high profits and the least affected one by recession,I cant think of wht it does when it is loosing.
It doesnt matter how much you work hard
last year no hike
this year f...ing 8%.
Dont know what is their strategy.They just seem to not care about employee retention.If this is the situation when IBM is gaining high profits and the least affected one by recession,I cant think of wht it does when it is loosing.
John Rambo replied to: abhishek
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
63:One of the worst company IBM India..no one
satisfy with there HR policy...there is no
employee satisfaction..if you work more than
2 three years you cant pay your house rent
bill and what ever other things may be....no
money there ..its my advise dont join yarr..
Sanjib pal replied to: John Rambo
post - 30 Jul, 2010
post - 30 Jul, 2010
64:some IT companies attitude is very simple if
you want you work else there are N number of
people in the market.a company like IBM which
shows big profits and growth is doing at its
employees cost by giving the least payment.no
band changes even if there are band changes
no right hike according to the band . which
doesnt make any sense of bands.if you are in
a same process and change your band for next
18 months you have to stay in the same band
even if up skill your self . so all HR
practices are in favour of the company and
nothing for employees . there are so many
employess even after satying in the company
for 3 yrs their total increament was only
Rs50 so why employees will stay back in such
companies
krishna mohan replied to: Amit
post - 29 Jul, 2010
post - 29 Jul, 2010
65: And what about the internal groupism. I have
heared that there are internal groups in IBM
....they are called Amway'ians ... they
favour guys who have joined this amway thing.
I guess the higher authorities dont know
about this. Guys who are part of amway get
promotion, onsites very easily even with 1-2
yrs of experience overlooking consultants
having 6-7 yrs of experience. Apart from the
salary, appreciation and position, this is
something very serious and should be looked
into as its growing like CANCER in big
companies like IBM which is a major factor
upsetting the morale of resources.. This is
for Company authorities to look into..
Annonymous replied to: krishna mohan
post - 29 Jul, 2010
post - 29 Jul, 2010
66: Aprat from Salary, the HR practices and the
employee allocation process to the projects
are also important. And offcourse mere is
writing the ‘360 degree appraisal’
(review of managers by the subordinates) in
the policy documents is not going to help
anybody!
Posted by: Kalyan - 29 Jul, 2010
67: They have to do that.
Posted by: Dipin - 29 Jul, 2010
68:There is a gross mistake in the market over
the reason behind attrition. Three factors
leads to Employee satisfaction:
1) Salary
2) Career Growth & New opportunities
3) Recognition
Very few people are by nature Job-Hoppers. They often leave the company because of any one of the above three reasons going horribly wrong. Salary is just one of the driving forces, but the other two are equally important if not more.
Only hiking salary is therefore often fails to stem the exodus. People often leave their supervisors not the company.
1) Salary
2) Career Growth & New opportunities
3) Recognition
Very few people are by nature Job-Hoppers. They often leave the company because of any one of the above three reasons going horribly wrong. Salary is just one of the driving forces, but the other two are equally important if not more.
Only hiking salary is therefore often fails to stem the exodus. People often leave their supervisors not the company.
Sattwik Chakrabarti replied to: Dipin
post - 29 Jul, 2010
post - 29 Jul, 2010
69: very true,
although money does play an important part,but at the end of the day,one looks for overall satisfaction and other 2 components are these only......
although money does play an important part,but at the end of the day,one looks for overall satisfaction and other 2 components are these only......
sharan replied to: Sattwik Chakrabarti
post - 29 Jul, 2010
post - 29 Jul, 2010
70: Very very true.
Sibasis replied to: Sattwik Chakrabarti
post - 29 Jul, 2010
post - 29 Jul, 2010
71: yes thats really true....
karthik replied to: Sibasis
post - 29 Jul, 2010
post - 29 Jul, 2010
72: Completely agree!
Sourabh replied to: karthik
post - 29 Jul, 2010
post - 29 Jul, 2010
73:everywhere it is same .. try to adjust or
switch...again it is same..IT needs to be
reshaped..
deep replied to: Sourabh
post - 29 Jul, 2010
post - 29 Jul, 2010
74: IT needs to reframe HR policies and very
much transparent to the employees. Now
employees are no more loyal to companies they
are loyal to their jobs only becoz they have
seen how organization treat them when they
need to sack their employees.
Harry replied to: deep
post - 29 Jul, 2010
post - 29 Jul, 2010
75: The same trend is coming into the Core
sectors also. The above points are equally
important for them too.
ravi replied to: Harry
post - 29 Jul, 2010
post - 29 Jul, 2010
76: That is a truth.. No body cares what company
does... everybody is concerned about their
job security....
As no one can give security to our jobs ..there is no point in showing the Company loyalty...
Guys keep boosting ur skills that is the best approach i feel....
As no one can give security to our jobs ..there is no point in showing the Company loyalty...
Guys keep boosting ur skills that is the best approach i feel....
Karthik replied to: Harry
post - 29 Jul, 2010
post - 29 Jul, 2010
77: true
Deepak G K replied to: Harry
post - 29 Jul, 2010
post - 29 Jul, 2010
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