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Last year, Suresh Kumar (name changed), an eighth semester engineering student then, developed a software that could compress large files and store them in your computer. Impressed with his innovation, the varsity evaluators rewarded him with an A+ grade.
However according to Bangalore Mirror, three months before he submitted his project, Suresh was on the streets of Jayanagar and Kengeri searching for a ready-made project from the 'project shops' that have sprung up in these areas.
In fact, a student, on condition of anonymity said, "We resort to buying readymade projects as they are done by seasoned coders and developers. They save us the headache and constant concern of ruining our project; besides, they are more professional."
A walk down the streets of Jayanagar and Kengeri will take you through shady little rooms inviting students for readymade projects created by small-sized software companies who bank on this 'seasonal business.'
An innovative geek told Bangalore Mirror, "Buying a project might be a trend, but I think the evaluators do understand and recognize an original work. For those genuinely interested in developing something on their own, I do not think there is any dearth of recognition and appreciation."
The shopkeepers are ready to give the entire readymade project in a pendrive, as well as teach all the basics involved in the development of the particular project, and also an FAQ bank with answers. Also offered is a list of more than 80-odd projects thare available. "Choose the one you find interesting, collect all the intellectual material, check everything and pay
8,000. The price is negotiable," said a shopkeeper.According to the Visvesvaraya Technological University (VTU) Registrar K V A Balaji who Bangalore Mirror spoke to, such incidents are happening. "It has come to our notice that some students go out and get their projects done. We have also noticed that there are professional agencies which are selling projects. As it is outside our purview, we cannot take action against such companies. Hence, we have issued a circular to all colleges that students have to do projects only in colleges and not go to industries outside."
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1:
Studs of fianl year hav cm across exams,campus interviews,soon.most importantly see education system.it must changed.syallbus of VTU won change periodically,if does so it can b old theory subjets.
first v studs want some industrail knowledge n wat they expect frm us.introduce some more new tech labs reduce theory subjects.give 1 yr for projects.so they get time to do som new stuffs.
first v studs want some industrail knowledge n wat they expect frm us.introduce some more new tech labs reduce theory subjects.give 1 yr for projects.so they get time to do som new stuffs.
Posted by:Rohith
- 02 Apr, 2010
2:
I think a full fledged final year project is too much to expect from VTU students, a large percentage of whom struggle even to clear their papers within 4 years. It is unrealistic to expect a group of 4 who barely know to write a "Hello World" program to develop a large application. Want to blame some one?
Blame the education system, blame the curriculum and blame the admission process and criteria, but not the students. If they were capable, they wouldn't have gone to buy projects in the first place. It is one thing for the Vice-chancellor to lament about the condition sitting in his cozy chair, and quite another thing to see how hard students find it to do projects on their own.
Blame the education system, blame the curriculum and blame the admission process and criteria, but not the students. If they were capable, they wouldn't have gone to buy projects in the first place. It is one thing for the Vice-chancellor to lament about the condition sitting in his cozy chair, and quite another thing to see how hard students find it to do projects on their own.
Posted by:piesauce
- 16 Mar, 2010
3:
All 7 semesters of engineering , students try to pass there papers , and you expect them to make a embedded /software project in final semester , why don't give them any knowledge of practical electronics from beginning , look at the level of expertise we have in Engineering Practical Labs of our college , lecturer just makes a copy of text book on black board , when they themselves don't know how to apply knowledge to practice (and most of the time their theory is also not clear ) , don't blame students .
Amit Replied to: piesauce
- 19 Mar, 2010
4:
Take it easy yaar. We are Indians think like Indians not like foreigners. Ye India hi idhar subkuch chaltha hi.
ok leave it. If the student had done the project on JAVA and he get the job on testing in corporate company. the project will never useful in his life.so why should waste his time for project. Especially in software field no one can individually delop the projects with full of futures with in 6 months. in that 6 months also he have to be write the exams. With in 6 months any project will completes? that is not possible for software projects. I think dont put the projects in engg coll
ok leave it. If the student had done the project on JAVA and he get the job on testing in corporate company. the project will never useful in his life.so why should waste his time for project. Especially in software field no one can individually delop the projects with full of futures with in 6 months. in that 6 months also he have to be write the exams. With in 6 months any project will completes? that is not possible for software projects. I think dont put the projects in engg coll
Posted by:tinku
- 11 Mar, 2010
5:
Dear Tinku,
Please consider that the Project work is there to enhance our Practical knowledge, which can be achieved by DOING the project on our own. That knowledge cannot be transmitted via books, and any other media. Purchasing the Project from market will actually make you lazy and unaware of the joy which we get after its completion. So my friend if you wanna do stick to your job in IT, DO your project..You will not get any READY-MADE projects in your professional life..!
Please consider that the Project work is there to enhance our Practical knowledge, which can be achieved by DOING the project on our own. That knowledge cannot be transmitted via books, and any other media. Purchasing the Project from market will actually make you lazy and unaware of the joy which we get after its completion. So my friend if you wanna do stick to your job in IT, DO your project..You will not get any READY-MADE projects in your professional life..!
Urvee Replied to: tinku
- 14 Mar, 2010
6:
you write this blog that's gud .....
but my friend first find out who is the responsible for this
our teachers or ous.
if we do not have the right knowledge then how can we represent our selves .
but my friend first find out who is the responsible for this
our teachers or ous.
if we do not have the right knowledge then how can we represent our selves .
Posted by:girijesh
- 11 Mar, 2010
7:
Girijesh U're in college dude! Not in school. If u expect your "TEACHERS" to teach you, u'll never learn anything in ur coll. life.
Generally I just wonder, which dept. teacher teaches to do all other activities, such as mentioned above ah..
Generally I just wonder, which dept. teacher teaches to do all other activities, such as mentioned above ah..
Ashwanth Kumar Replied to: girijesh
- 12 Mar, 2010
8:
Friend please stop blaming the students. The main reason why students go for ready made projects because teachers of VTU have no practical knowledge. They are just concerned about the course that`s it. No creativity is appreciated. If you are creative then also they have no brains to understand that.
And not only B.E, M.Tech students are also getting the ready made projects which are developed by B.E graduates.
Please ask these teachers to get some practical knowledge and watch 3 idiots this will help.
And not only B.E, M.Tech students are also getting the ready made projects which are developed by B.E graduates.
Please ask these teachers to get some practical knowledge and watch 3 idiots this will help.
Posted by:Mahesh
- 10 Mar, 2010
9:
dear frnd 3 idiots is a nice movie but that is just a movie we shud nt get attached to it ..
the things happening over there r never commited in our real lives
the things happening over there r never commited in our real lives
praveen kumar Replied to: Mahesh
- 11 Mar, 2010
10:
what mahesh says is exactly right. the teacher should get some practical knowledge.its not a matter whether they understand this by seeing a 3idiots movie.
karthikeyan Replied to: praveen kumar
- 12 Mar, 2010
11:
I've had friends buying project from outside, and I don't mind it, I did my project from scratch, search for "crane ogre" in youtube and click on the first video, this project became so popular in youtube and yet my evaluators were skeptical whether I did it and if it was so, whether it had any particular practical purpose, forget about the well done remarks, they din't even wanna see the entire project? So why bother to build something from scratch which is not even seen for a while?
I just had motivation to do something on my own and I kept going, only I know the pain I went through and I received no motivation from outside, at least this was the area I liked.
Whats sad is evaluators expect projects which are "hot and burning" if it is innovation that we bring they look outside if to find if its the cutting edge?
I don't see anything wrong in students in buying software from outside as long as Lecturers have "Whats the big deal?" attitude.
I just had motivation to do something on my own and I kept going, only I know the pain I went through and I received no motivation from outside, at least this was the area I liked.
Whats sad is evaluators expect projects which are "hot and burning" if it is innovation that we bring they look outside if to find if its the cutting edge?
I don't see anything wrong in students in buying software from outside as long as Lecturers have "Whats the big deal?" attitude.
Posted by:Sameer
- 09 Mar, 2010
12:
I think some people go outside n buy projects b'coz they r not confident enuf that they can develop a project on their own..... also on top of it... theres a poor suuport and motivation by the profs... Seriously if a student has a good, supportive and above all knowledgable prof.... i dont think there is any problem for students doing project alone... Wat really suxs is that prof is not able to help in anything n he keeps on pressing to do more... be more innovative... do something new.... n wen the project guide's duty jumps in they back offf... come tmrw... i m busy now... we will discuss it later.... wat is more shameful that wen the project in case gets completed.... they ask us to present paper with their names in the paper... wtf... no help n just ur name!
Posted by:Ashutosh Mukherjee
- 08 Mar, 2010
13:
man..i agree with you fully...thats exactly what happened with my team..i did my prj 4m d scratch..unable to complete it on time..and hardly any help..4m d guides..but yeah..im satisfied..um a 3rd yr engg stud 1 more year to go..but im pretty confi..the next prj i do..vl be a success..so guys..plss..be try to be a genuine engg studnt..though v say india produces more engg grads than china..its imp 4 us to keep in mind..that we can beat them only if v put in sum real effort..so guys..try being of some help to your country.
nikitha Replied to: Ashutosh Mukherjee
- 12 Mar, 2010
14:
Shame on the people that provided comments to the above article. Do these people know the English language? Have they seen or used a dictionary? How many of you were admitted to the Engineering College by the quota system?
By writing such rubbish you are showing your ignorance. Save time, study, do your project(don't buy it) and be of some value to India.
By writing such rubbish you are showing your ignorance. Save time, study, do your project(don't buy it) and be of some value to India.
Posted by:Raj Acharya
- 08 Mar, 2010
15:
excuse me are you professor in one of the engineering colleges, pardon me but the way you wrote it seems so.
peculiar Replied to: Raj Acharya
- 09 Mar, 2010
16:
obviously, colleges need to come up with newer ways of having students do projects -- ways that are more in sync with changed times.
why blame students for picking up on an easier way.
why blame students for picking up on an easier way.
Posted by:ANR
- 08 Mar, 2010
17:
It should not happened for the sake of students only.
Posted by:New Techies
- 07 Mar, 2010
18:
every body is doing lotsof wrong things
if govt is making so much difference between students themselves. so what if those students can bought out a project.
aur waise bhi bhi yeh sab to common hai.
bihar mein jab log exams hi nahi dete aur btech ki degree plus reservation le kar govt sectors mein job kar sakte hein toh atleast students buying projects are at least true students and not the fake ones
if govt is making so much difference between students themselves. so what if those students can bought out a project.
aur waise bhi bhi yeh sab to common hai.
bihar mein jab log exams hi nahi dete aur btech ki degree plus reservation le kar govt sectors mein job kar sakte hein toh atleast students buying projects are at least true students and not the fake ones
Posted by:Dinesh Kukreti
- 07 Mar, 2010
19:
Now days the pressure built up on the students for performance made them to indulge in such kind of activities. But still if students are moving to such kind of behavior it is not good from students point of view as well as Institutions. If students make a habit of this kind thing it is not good for them also in future. At the same time Institutes also should take care about while framing there Insti program it should bring the innovations & skills of the students.
Posted by:New Techies
- 07 Mar, 2010
20:
With Respect to Prof in college should appriciate litle thing done by Students.. Students are ready to do projects by there own.. but they dont want to take risks in terms of marks(score) in case of failer. So my oppinion is if student fails to do the project completly the part of work done by him must me appriciated by Professors..
Posted by:Veersh Gutti
- 07 Mar, 2010
21:
I totally agree with you.its all because of some stupid professors.
syed Replied to: Veersh Gutti
- 08 Mar, 2010
23:
Yes it's right article because most of the student don't have deep knowledge about the languages on which they develope their project also the project guide doesn't have any practicle knowledge.Therefore in present situation most of last year student has to face these problems.
Can anyone have solution on this problem?
Can anyone have solution on this problem?
Posted by:vikas
- 07 Mar, 2010
24:
This is wrong ........
Students , pls don buy projects. Evaluators will be able to differentiate between the projects bought and those done by students. If in case he finds out that the project has been bought, he can give you a BIG 0.
Also it'll spoil your creativity and coding skills. This will affect you a lot when you join a job later.
Students , pls don buy projects. Evaluators will be able to differentiate between the projects bought and those done by students. If in case he finds out that the project has been bought, he can give you a BIG 0.
Also it'll spoil your creativity and coding skills. This will affect you a lot when you join a job later.
Posted by:Anoop
- 07 Mar, 2010
25:
There is nothing wrong. During accedemics a student is expected to do dummy jobs. When 80% students resort to redymades the original project fetches lower ranks. If it is made legal, we can judge them in viva and student will not carry burden on his soul.
Dev Kiran Replied to: Anoop
- 07 Mar, 2010
26:
what is the point in judging a person for a project when he has not done it on his own ..
Anoop Replied to: Dev Kiran
- 11 Mar, 2010
27:
Its mistake in our system ,where proffesors and lectures will give good marks to the students who get out put and not considering the innovative idea or idea of approch,in most of the colleges lecturers/project guides are not in a position to help students to resilve some of technical issue they fac during execution of the project, students are worried abut markes and goes out to buy project... here entire eductaion system has to be blammed for such projects and its reduce Quality of edication.
Posted by:premj
- 07 Mar, 2010
28:
IT'S NOT STUDENT MISTAKE. TEACHER COMPELL THEM TO BUY THE PROJECT FROM OUTSIDE BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE ENGINEERING & STUDENT REALIZE THAT HE DOESN'T HAS ANY WHICH WILL HELP HIM TO DO PROJECT WITH ITS OWN. BECAUSE TEACHER DON'T HAVE KNOWLEDGE AT THAT LEVEL WHICH IS REQUIRED & SOME WHO HAVE THEY ARE UNABLE TO EXPRESS IT PROPERLY........
ON ALL THE EIGHT DIRECTION THERE IS ONLY ONE PERSONE WHO IS IN LOSS..... STUDENT
ON ALL THE EIGHT DIRECTION THERE IS ONLY ONE PERSONE WHO IS IN LOSS..... STUDENT
Posted by:MOHSIN AKHTAR
- 07 Mar, 2010
29:
I tend to agree with you.
My college mentor had no idea what she should ask us to do - she told us to think of something on our own.
NO, WE DID NOT BUY ANYTHING.
Thankfully, my project partner had some contacts in a govt org and someone there suggested what problems they are having and how we can solve them. So, essentially, that real-life work became our project. But I just think we were lucky.
Out of 5 lakh engineers in India every year, even 1000 cannot get real projects. The problems are many:
1. Colleges force students to work on projects they may not have interest in. So, even if they may find a nice project for themselves, the college may force them not to work on it.
2. "Professors" are often lacking in knowledge and ideas and cannot suggest anything to work on, like it was in our case.
3. Most of the students might not have grasped many subjects during their studies, so they cannot be innovative enough in the last semester. This is because most people get into engg because of the lure of "good jobs", whatever that means. Most of them don't even know what the word "engineering" means.
My college mentor had no idea what she should ask us to do - she told us to think of something on our own.
NO, WE DID NOT BUY ANYTHING.
Thankfully, my project partner had some contacts in a govt org and someone there suggested what problems they are having and how we can solve them. So, essentially, that real-life work became our project. But I just think we were lucky.
Out of 5 lakh engineers in India every year, even 1000 cannot get real projects. The problems are many:
1. Colleges force students to work on projects they may not have interest in. So, even if they may find a nice project for themselves, the college may force them not to work on it.
2. "Professors" are often lacking in knowledge and ideas and cannot suggest anything to work on, like it was in our case.
3. Most of the students might not have grasped many subjects during their studies, so they cannot be innovative enough in the last semester. This is because most people get into engg because of the lure of "good jobs", whatever that means. Most of them don't even know what the word "engineering" means.
Kaushik Replied to: MOHSIN AKHTAR
- 08 Mar, 2010
30:
I agree with you
In my case our Dept HOD is our project guide.
I & my partners never had intrest in DSP.
But He was pursuing Phd. in that subject.
So he rejected all our ideas calling them DUMB.
Finally wen all others were doing their projects we didnt even had the theme of our project
After completion of 1 sem he dumped a DSP based project on us & we had no option coz we hav already wasted a lot of time due to rejection of almost 9 to 10 project ideas from our guide.
So now we do neither have the knowledge nor intrest in that area but are compelled to do the same..
WHAT SHALL WE DO...
If we buy the proj that is immoral.
If we dont we wont Graduate in 2010..
In my case our Dept HOD is our project guide.
I & my partners never had intrest in DSP.
But He was pursuing Phd. in that subject.
So he rejected all our ideas calling them DUMB.
Finally wen all others were doing their projects we didnt even had the theme of our project
After completion of 1 sem he dumped a DSP based project on us & we had no option coz we hav already wasted a lot of time due to rejection of almost 9 to 10 project ideas from our guide.
So now we do neither have the knowledge nor intrest in that area but are compelled to do the same..
WHAT SHALL WE DO...
If we buy the proj that is immoral.
If we dont we wont Graduate in 2010..
Ajinkya Replied to: Kaushik
- 09 Mar, 2010
31:
Students only join colleges for campus life. Otherwise why they are not busy on all their subjects from day one ?
Most of them are then punished severly by ground realities when fun days are over and they are facing the world.
Most of them are then punished severly by ground realities when fun days are over and they are facing the world.
nisha Replied to: MOHSIN AKHTAR
- 07 Mar, 2010
32:
Run! if you can't then walk, if you can't then crawl but never stop, at least you'll reach somewhere.
Hope this gives you the answer. Teachers are to guide not to prepare projects for students. With all the resources available on internet and other resources available in the college why not these so called 'students at loss' explore these resources.
Hope this gives you the answer. Teachers are to guide not to prepare projects for students. With all the resources available on internet and other resources available in the college why not these so called 'students at loss' explore these resources.
Abul Aula Jasser Replied to: nisha
- 07 Mar, 2010
33:
This is very much illegal activity only. Somebody says students are lazy now a days and teachers are don't have knowledge, But many people should accept that many intelligent peoples are there in industries(including peoples who are selling project to students) why they cant guide the student with free of cost. Already all the employees are earning good amount but still they want money. Please stop that nonsense earning and try to guide at least one student per year increase one by one for next coming years. Finally you can feel that goodness. This is the most very big activity than money and food donate.
I am already doing this one.....
I am already doing this one.....
Posted by:Sathasivam
- 07 Mar, 2010
34:
I AGREE WITH YOU. THOSE WHO HAVE KNOWLEDGE MUST SHARE WITH OTHERS. AT LEAST ONE MUST TEACH AT LEAST ONE PERSON. I ALSO GIVI MY SPARE TIME TO THE STUDENTS WHO WANTS TO JOIN BANKING INDUSTRY. MORE THAN 30 STUDENTS JOINED VARIOUS BANK. I HAVE INSPIRED THEM TO LEARN. SUCH TYPE OF ' KARMA YAGNA' IS HELPFUL FOR THE SOCIETY. MANY A STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES ARE VERY HAPPPY TODAY. THIS 'YAGNA' I STARTED ON 1ST JANUARY 2008 AND TILL THE DATE IT IS CONTINUE WITH SEVERAL STUDENTS. ONE OF THE BEST COLLEGES 'MP SHAH COMMERCE COLLEGE AT JAMNAGAR' IS GIVING ME SUPPORT FOR THIS ACTIVITY. WE ARE GIVING GUIDANCE FOR THE CAREER WITHOUT ANY CHARGE.
KIREET POMAL Replied to: Sathasivam
- 08 Mar, 2010
35:
The student is only as good as the teacher.....I am a Chemical Engineer who has passed out from the M.S.Ramaiah Institute of Technology 7 yrs back......this practice was quite prevalent during those times as well. What do you expect the students to do when the lecturers themselves have minimal knowledge regarding the subjects? The students resort to such activities because they can get away with it.
Posted by:Manash
- 07 Mar, 2010
36:
Absolutely right.Espesially this happens in new colleges where there will be no infrastructure,teaching,guidance and skilled lecturers....
praveen Replied to: Manash
- 07 Mar, 2010
37:
Dear Sir,
Can I get a project that belongs to s/w testing i.e manual testing.
Can I get a project that belongs to s/w testing i.e manual testing.
Posted by:Sushant
- 07 Mar, 2010
39:
Project making and selling is a very big business.Projects for class ix,X,Xi and XII are easily available.This purchasing of project is because there is no teaching about making these projects in class. If making project in class is made mandatory with evaluation in between the session this problem can be solved.Teaching should be converted from part time profession to full time profession
Posted by:vinod arora
- 06 Mar, 2010
40:
What a shame ..these would be the students who would buy anything tommorrow..from jobs to people to any opportunity and any materialistic gains they want. Sincere students would suffer due to the immoral behaviour of these students as GPA is affected when an average but hardworking student has to compete against these nuts. One who calls such an act of progress as smartwork is a fool as nothing stands on the foundation of falsity. Someday or the other the would come to face with their real competence.
Posted by:Harshala
- 06 Mar, 2010
41:
Yes. Your last sentence was very important. One day, that day will come......for sure...
A Chakraborty Replied to: Harshala
- 06 Mar, 2010
43:
Sir, projects are mandatory for ALL streams.
Kaushik Replied to: Jeeva
- 08 Mar, 2010
44:
Yes I too Agree all of these issues and suggestions.
Anybody whats any guidence in java project development or
How to get the jobs while studying itslef(must be tanlented enough)if not i will guide you guys to get the jobs in IT field.naseerssn@gmail.com
Anybody whats any guidence in java project development or
How to get the jobs while studying itslef(must be tanlented enough)if not i will guide you guys to get the jobs in IT field.naseerssn@gmail.com
Posted by:Naseer
- 06 Mar, 2010
45:
What will you do/expect, if your own lecturers' belonged to the project shopper category, during his/her education time ?!
Posted by:Sharma Anil
- 06 Mar, 2010
47:
welcome to the reality guys
it took ages for the ppl to realize this fact
this is not a new thing in engg streams there are well established project markets in cities, u just have to name the domain/technology u want the project on then u'll have a long list to chose from.
u can't only blame the students for this even the lecturers and colleges are also responsible for this menace.
if the lecturers apart from giving only lectures in the class try to become practical mentors for the students and put their efforts seriously in helping students become engineers true in sense then there should be no issues.
it took ages for the ppl to realize this fact
this is not a new thing in engg streams there are well established project markets in cities, u just have to name the domain/technology u want the project on then u'll have a long list to chose from.
u can't only blame the students for this even the lecturers and colleges are also responsible for this menace.
if the lecturers apart from giving only lectures in the class try to become practical mentors for the students and put their efforts seriously in helping students become engineers true in sense then there should be no issues.
Posted by:wajahat
- 06 Mar, 2010
48:
This buying project is not very new concept. Now there is serious involvement of college lecturers and staff in this buisness. It is a good season for lecturers / small fake companies who are just up to spoil the coming generation of engineers. Where the hell our country is heading ? i think this illegal project business should be stopped instantly.
Posted by:Nabhi
- 06 Mar, 2010
49:
hi
Visvesvaraya Technological University should be ashamed for not noticing the student basement of knowledge...
If readymade projects r sold for 5000, in future it will be sell for 200 to 500......then the students will look for readymade projects only.......they will not get much knowledge.
Visvesvaraya Technological University should be ashamed for not noticing the student basement of knowledge...
If readymade projects r sold for 5000, in future it will be sell for 200 to 500......then the students will look for readymade projects only.......they will not get much knowledge.
Posted by:Gopi
- 06 Mar, 2010
50:
hi
Most of them say that, how can I do project in 2 or 3 months......
I am say that past 3 years u had learnt basic from your teacher, you have to learn and you have to implement , for that only you have learnt for 3 years........
student life is to enjoy, but at same time that is the time to learn and improve your knowledge...........
Most of them say that, how can I do project in 2 or 3 months......
I am say that past 3 years u had learnt basic from your teacher, you have to learn and you have to implement , for that only you have learnt for 3 years........
student life is to enjoy, but at same time that is the time to learn and improve your knowledge...........
Posted by:Gopalakrishnan
- 06 Mar, 2010
51:
hi
this is first for bangalore know.....
but in chennai last ten years this the job for many people....
but one thing, buying ready made projects the knowledge of the future students can be reduced........
project is the basement of IT field to a student......
I request to students that do your own project without any help, not only IEEE is projects there r more application projects to do it..........
this is first for bangalore know.....
but in chennai last ten years this the job for many people....
but one thing, buying ready made projects the knowledge of the future students can be reduced........
project is the basement of IT field to a student......
I request to students that do your own project without any help, not only IEEE is projects there r more application projects to do it..........
Posted by:Gopalakrishnan
- 06 Mar, 2010
53:
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Posted by:sheikh.mohammed arbaz
- 06 Mar, 2010
54:
hi ,
i m student of mca final semester,
i have to do live project . please guide me to do live project in any reputed fim on free entership.sugest some comapanies in delhi .
i m student of mca final semester,
i have to do live project . please guide me to do live project in any reputed fim on free entership.sugest some comapanies in delhi .
rishikesh ranjan Replied to: sheikh.mohammed arbaz
- 06 Mar, 2010
55:
It reminds me of those days back in 2004 where we used finish our classes by afternoon then working on our project till night. We have started bit earlier as we know that doing own projects takes time. But the learning and experience from doing own projects is tremondous. We do had fun also while doing projects.
Posted by:Ravikumar
- 06 Mar, 2010
56:
This is shocking! There several reasons why students should dirty their hands doing coding:
1. The student project is just about the *only* time the students can learn the reality of software development and get to learn a language (and other programming constructs).
2. By doing the project hands-on, the student can discover how the IT industry works
3. My firm's interview process always starts off with the student project (and not just for freshers). People who buy their projects are out in 2 minutes
4. I've seen purchased project which is riddled with errors. There is virtually no quality control in these places, and a student is opening himself for being caught out at any point in her career.
1. The student project is just about the *only* time the students can learn the reality of software development and get to learn a language (and other programming constructs).
2. By doing the project hands-on, the student can discover how the IT industry works
3. My firm's interview process always starts off with the student project (and not just for freshers). People who buy their projects are out in 2 minutes
4. I've seen purchased project which is riddled with errors. There is virtually no quality control in these places, and a student is opening himself for being caught out at any point in her career.
Posted by:Sierra Bravo
- 06 Mar, 2010
57:
"3 Idiots" - "3 Idiots" - "3 Idiots" - "3 Idiots"
No Practicals in 1 st Sem
No Practicals in 2 nd Sem
No Practicals in 3 rd Sem
No Practicals in 4 th Sem
No Practicals in 5 th Sem
No Practicals in 6 th Sem
No Practicals in 7 th Sem
How can a Student LEARN and DO project in 2 months?
Just Think...!
Is dotNET, JAVA etc So simple to learn in 2 months....!
Ha ha ha , Its a joke.
And Every one Knows it tooo (Professors, Lecturers, Parents students)
How can a student do hardwork, when his friend is Njoying(by getting it readymade. Hassle free)
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Solution
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1) Students should get more of Practical training than of KILO'S of Theory from the First Sem.
2)Colleges should Encourage students who are doing projects by their own.
3)Media should showcase Researches and make Researchers popular ,along side Cricketers,Film Stars.
INDIA can be developed only with INNOVATION
An Innovation can change Entire World.
Examples are "WHEEL" , FIRE , SATILLITE, ELECTRICITY, TELEPHONE ,INTERNET" and more.........
No Practicals in 1 st Sem
No Practicals in 2 nd Sem
No Practicals in 3 rd Sem
No Practicals in 4 th Sem
No Practicals in 5 th Sem
No Practicals in 6 th Sem
No Practicals in 7 th Sem
How can a Student LEARN and DO project in 2 months?
Just Think...!
Is dotNET, JAVA etc So simple to learn in 2 months....!
Ha ha ha , Its a joke.
And Every one Knows it tooo (Professors, Lecturers, Parents students)
How can a student do hardwork, when his friend is Njoying(by getting it readymade. Hassle free)
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Solution
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1) Students should get more of Practical training than of KILO'S of Theory from the First Sem.
2)Colleges should Encourage students who are doing projects by their own.
3)Media should showcase Researches and make Researchers popular ,along side Cricketers,Film Stars.
INDIA can be developed only with INNOVATION
An Innovation can change Entire World.
Examples are "WHEEL" , FIRE , SATILLITE, ELECTRICITY, TELEPHONE ,INTERNET" and more.........
Posted by:Surya
- 06 Mar, 2010
58:
I totally Agree with u surya
These Lecturers teach how to cool plain rice and expect us to make pulav,biriyani , batani rice..and stuff like that,
They are not interested in even helping the project because even they are not sure of what is the project is about.. (Its coz..lack of practical knowledge )
These Lecturers teach how to cool plain rice and expect us to make pulav,biriyani , batani rice..and stuff like that,
They are not interested in even helping the project because even they are not sure of what is the project is about.. (Its coz..lack of practical knowledge )
karthik Replied to: Surya
- 06 Mar, 2010
59:
Well your solution is really practical.
I can't say about other places, but during my engg.(not software) I did my final project with 4 of my friends and we succeed.
We got appreciation in form of attention & grade.
It is not the system that needs a change rather it is the mindset.
Let me tell you the truth; initially in our group we were 7, but two of them did not have confidence on my concept and method of doing by ourselves and left.
So you should be confident and technically sound enough to do all these...
I can't say about other places, but during my engg.(not software) I did my final project with 4 of my friends and we succeed.
We got appreciation in form of attention & grade.
It is not the system that needs a change rather it is the mindset.
Let me tell you the truth; initially in our group we were 7, but two of them did not have confidence on my concept and method of doing by ourselves and left.
So you should be confident and technically sound enough to do all these...
Kulamani Samal Replied to: Surya
- 06 Mar, 2010
60:
itz really a issue to think over..! the universities are generating lakhs of engineers every year,itz sad that they land up being inefficient on working on real time projects.
Universitites have tight their norms in such case to retain standard ..!
regards,
anirudh
Universitites have tight their norms in such case to retain standard ..!
regards,
anirudh
Posted by:anirudh
- 06 Mar, 2010
61:
KNOWLEDGE is itself a REWARD. So it is immaterial whether we get a reward in the form of marks or money for a project that we do. It is an individuals decision to buy a project or do a project. Liberalization on the evaluation of VTU projects based on the output can initiate students to DO a project. Most of the students buy the project fearing the output. If the evaluation is based on the procedure taken up I feel this trend of BUYING projects would come down. Hope this conversation enlightens our juniors to DO A PROJECT which is a qualification for an ENGINEER.
Student under VTU doing a project in IISc
Student under VTU doing a project in IISc
Posted by:Vijitha
- 06 Mar, 2010
62:
I finished my engi through VTU itself.... what i saw in project evaluation is like those who bought the project from some agencies GOT VERY GOOD MARKS THAN OUR PROJECT...
what i want to tell VTU is issuing circular restricting such projects won't work at all. students will not listen to such circulars... INSTEAD VTU should train its LECTURERS capable of distinguishing between real and the proj which has bought from agencies.... VTU first should take a common assessment test to LECTURERS to check their standard, then only our education system may develop......
what i want to tell VTU is issuing circular restricting such projects won't work at all. students will not listen to such circulars... INSTEAD VTU should train its LECTURERS capable of distinguishing between real and the proj which has bought from agencies.... VTU first should take a common assessment test to LECTURERS to check their standard, then only our education system may develop......
Posted by:Jayalaxmi
- 06 Mar, 2010
63:
This is very common for BE/B.Tech,MBA,MCA graduates !
The facaulty and head of the deptt,,has to look into
The facaulty and head of the deptt,,has to look into
Posted by:Doisch Technologies
- 06 Mar, 2010
64:
i am an engg student of 8th semester and know its kind of hectic handling a project, goin thru all the work in 2-3 months...but i feel we must enjoy every bit of the pressure because its a sign of a good software programmer..even if its hectic...after you do all the hard work it really pays off and the amount of satisfaction u get is way above....
Posted by:bimba
- 06 Mar, 2010
65:
Project is meant to enhance knowledge of the students. In bangalore most of the students are purchasing projects. I have evaluated lot of thesis and found that students do not even try to clear their fundamentals. Let student submit a small project but it should have creativity and concepts of engineering.
VTU should set up the correct procedure for the evaluation of thesis
VTU should set up the correct procedure for the evaluation of thesis
Posted by:Rajeev Jain
- 06 Mar, 2010
66:
First time I would like to praise SiliconIndia, for removing the pall off the denigrating ploy employed by ghetto Engineering Students. People often tend to hide these fact. One won't be surprised to acknowledge teachers who are unaware of such wrongdoings.
Posted by:Saurav Kumar
- 06 Mar, 2010
67:
WHy ? I ask WHY does Silicon India have to publish such trash articles and that too so often . The articles are not even worthy of being in a college gossip mag. Why Did I subscribe it! I don't know about the students who purchased those projects but they cant be any worse then the people who write such articles. Selling crass to public. I mean I ask all readers one simple question. When was the last you read about some latest tech here. Say have u read an article on iPhone social apps ohh y go dat far.. has even somebdy read a review on Nexus One (google android based phone) or perhaps google wave. I am i reading here . Crap. Un-subscribing.
Posted by:anguished reader
- 06 Mar, 2010
68:
i think boss u going to be wrong because it is matter in which we have to think seriously and we have required to some motivation to this type of activities and i think u going to be selfish from u r side and i u feel irritating u r self so u blame it to site. whether u can get the update form other side than why u should worry for this if it is a waste for u.
kirti1714 Replied to: anguished reader
- 06 Mar, 2010
69:
hmmm...nice comment...
but why u r saying like this.?you can also post some new tech. stuff why u r blaming to others..
but why u r saying like this.?you can also post some new tech. stuff why u r blaming to others..
nkr Replied to: anguished reader
- 06 Mar, 2010
71:
my dear friends in hyderabad many institutes do this type of things from years.
nad some more institutes fraud the students that it is company not a institute
nad some more institutes fraud the students that it is company not a institute
Posted by:rajiv
- 06 Mar, 2010
72:
I developed my own algorithms for labs & in exams evaluator refused to accept my program because it did not match the standard programs remembered & executed by students. The experience was same with the project as well, Any ways hard work always pays marks have not stopped me from being a good engineer I think it applies for others as well
Posted by:rajath
- 06 Mar, 2010
73:
absolutely true rajath....
this is true for all colleges in chennai
this is true for all colleges in chennai
vishesh Replied to: rajath
- 06 Mar, 2010
74:
This is usual phenomenon in education and existing since last decade. This is happening because of FAR-SIGHTEDNESS of policy makers. With agenda that no one should fail in first and second year evaluation process is compromised and all non-eligible are promoted. This stuff when in FINAL year I my opinion cannot produce anything original, complition of project is mandatory thus these students are left with the option of buying the project either from seniors or from market.
Things like this cannot be stopped unless we have some integrated mechanism which at some stage refrains non-eligible students to proceed further or they should improve themselves.
TODAYS MAIN PROBLEM OF THE EDUCATION IS COMPLUSION TO HAVE HIGHER PASSING PERCENTAGE RATHER THAN ELIGIBLE AND INTELLIGENT PRODUCT THAT CAN BE CONSUMED BY THE INDUSTRY EASILY.
Things like this cannot be stopped unless we have some integrated mechanism which at some stage refrains non-eligible students to proceed further or they should improve themselves.
TODAYS MAIN PROBLEM OF THE EDUCATION IS COMPLUSION TO HAVE HIGHER PASSING PERCENTAGE RATHER THAN ELIGIBLE AND INTELLIGENT PRODUCT THAT CAN BE CONSUMED BY THE INDUSTRY EASILY.
Posted by:RAKESH MISHRAS
- 06 Mar, 2010
75:
You know most of you who have spoken here haven't thought a few practical things through about what students go through....
I too started off doing my project in a DRDO and know many other friends of mine who are doing it in actual IT companies...
But in college we have to cope through 4 difficult and new subjects and the teachers are not really that informative about them however they might appear to be well informed.... (do we blame the curriculum for this?)
Next, we have stuff like seminars where we are forced to go to college for 3 whole weeks and not even allowed to miss them in lieu to do our project, by threatening us that our marks will be affected....
Next our internal guides are not of any help they are so disinterested as to even take the time to listen to the student's progress in the project....
Last but not the least... I suppose all of us have gone through teacher's favoritism we have to cope through...
Now i ask is it any wonder that a student takes a readymade project that he/she is sure of getting marks or do a new project with absolutely no help and then he/she gets screwed on some mere tecnicality (like what are those colors used,related and next say in the type of project you choose just because the teacher has no idea what you have done does not mean what you have is wrong)and try to cut marks...
Hence i would like to say there is always another side for the same story don't judge students just because they bought a project sometimes its out of necessity also...
I too started off doing my project in a DRDO and know many other friends of mine who are doing it in actual IT companies...
But in college we have to cope through 4 difficult and new subjects and the teachers are not really that informative about them however they might appear to be well informed.... (do we blame the curriculum for this?)
Next, we have stuff like seminars where we are forced to go to college for 3 whole weeks and not even allowed to miss them in lieu to do our project, by threatening us that our marks will be affected....
Next our internal guides are not of any help they are so disinterested as to even take the time to listen to the student's progress in the project....
Last but not the least... I suppose all of us have gone through teacher's favoritism we have to cope through...
Now i ask is it any wonder that a student takes a readymade project that he/she is sure of getting marks or do a new project with absolutely no help and then he/she gets screwed on some mere tecnicality (like what are those colors used,related and next say in the type of project you choose just because the teacher has no idea what you have done does not mean what you have is wrong)and try to cut marks...
Hence i would like to say there is always another side for the same story don't judge students just because they bought a project sometimes its out of necessity also...
Posted by:antagonized student
- 06 Mar, 2010
76:
Absolute truth. Now just see I am in 3rd year and this sem is not even of 3 months. For past one month I have been planning on my own project and now suddenly faculties have assigned specific projects. And moreover the list includes projects such as Speech Recognition System ...Not Voice,Knowledge Based Expert System, Face Recogniton(not identification), Touch Screens, Visrtual Network Implementation....
And all these are for Mini-Projects Not Final Year Projects. I do not think faculties have any idea how sophisticated these systems are but have been assigned without even looking at there feasibility and requirements. When asked for some help the answer come...Why don't you search the internet,I don't have time, I do not much about this....BUT we need to show the project. Can somebody imagine someone implementing these in 2 months...what will the student do...just go to the market and buy it. I agree that students should be told to do which may be small but must have genuine effort and may be sometimes given the freedom to build what is already there but in their own way.
And all these are for Mini-Projects Not Final Year Projects. I do not think faculties have any idea how sophisticated these systems are but have been assigned without even looking at there feasibility and requirements. When asked for some help the answer come...Why don't you search the internet,I don't have time, I do not much about this....BUT we need to show the project. Can somebody imagine someone implementing these in 2 months...what will the student do...just go to the market and buy it. I agree that students should be told to do which may be small but must have genuine effort and may be sometimes given the freedom to build what is already there but in their own way.
Yki Replied to: antagonized student
- 06 Mar, 2010
77:
This is not at all true.. they dont sell it. they actually make u code it from start to beginning with ur own design and ur own code. I was a student and had to do the same and i went to a place where they sold the projects but they dint hand me over the entire project but they helped me and it took 4 to 5 months to complete. It may happen tht some ppl do this kind of selling of projects but not everyone.. and besides they also give u a certificate that "so n so student has succesfully completed the project in this time duration etc etc.." This article is not entirely true..
Posted by:narci
- 06 Mar, 2010
78:
We should identify those people's who are doing this smart work ie making projects for money. No doubts they are talented and doing it only for money.I think HRD ministry should harness their real talent in some constructive way. Better we involve these minds in bigger task and pay them handsome amount so that they dont have to sell their talent merely for few thousand ,and for those who are buying ready made stuff should be encouraged to do task on their own.
Posted by:Eng.Vidyut
- 06 Mar, 2010
79:
Knowing this i am really a blessed person that i never went to college & wasted my father's hard earned money & my precious time...Why as an individual we take what anyone else gives us...While using a mobile,drving a car,while dressing up we need all of them to be the latest & different from others..as well as it should be the best...
So when it comes to projects why "DUPLICATE"...
"WHY NOT" something "YOU" made it by urself which is "UNIQUE"...
ALL THE BEST GUYS/GALS LOOKING FORWARD FOR THE BEST OF INDIANS IN "2010"...ON TOP ALLOVER...
JAI HO...
So when it comes to projects why "DUPLICATE"...
"WHY NOT" something "YOU" made it by urself which is "UNIQUE"...
ALL THE BEST GUYS/GALS LOOKING FORWARD FOR THE BEST OF INDIANS IN "2010"...ON TOP ALLOVER...
JAI HO...
Posted by:Amar Raval
- 06 Mar, 2010
80:
I recently participated in a project competition held in nasik and won 2nd prize because the winner of the first prize had got its project done from outside and had paid 8k per member to get that project ..... and than i queried my self if i would have payed those amount than the first prize would have been mine
Posted by:Hitesh Kapoor
- 06 Mar, 2010
81:
hey kapoor don't be upset yar.our system is like that only.there is no value for hard work.see one on one u only know the value of hard work.good luck
chinmayi Replied to: Hitesh Kapoor
- 06 Mar, 2010
82:
hi kapoor, ur getting more knowldge than the people ...
venkat Replied to: Hitesh Kapoor
- 06 Mar, 2010
83:
This is a trend I fought against during my days at post grad, urging fellow batch mates not to resort to this as this would become an evil in the long run.If we truly try to understand the cause, its merely the kids who do engineering for the heck of it and neither have the talent nor the interest to bend their backs to "qualify" for their engineering degree who resort to this. Why do we go to the extent of buying software, the more easy way they resort to is downloading from the internet. Please do away with quotas in education, give opportunities to the really deserving, create infrastructure for innovation and finally please find faculties who have experience in the real world not who merely rote the book.
Posted by:Girish Chander
- 06 Mar, 2010
84:
Nothing new. This is also not confined to Bangalore. it is rampant in other cities as well. With the proliferation of engineering colleges, lack of good teachers and dilution of standadrds, this is bound to happen. Experienced faculty members also know that this is happening. This is also the reason why most engineering graduates are unemployable. Recruiters should carefully screen candidates to select really qualified people.
Posted by:VRS
- 06 Mar, 2010
86:
I think 3 IDIOTS are earning! and thank God they must be Indians. What's wrong if they are in Jayanagar and Kengari.
We must honour the real talent.
But most of the comments are worth to be read and understood by Education Akas, including bloody politicians.
ALL MUST BE SHOWN 3 IDIOTS.
Best regards,
Best regards,
We must honour the real talent.
But most of the comments are worth to be read and understood by Education Akas, including bloody politicians.
ALL MUST BE SHOWN 3 IDIOTS.
Best regards,
Best regards,
Posted by:Arun Pratap Singh
- 06 Mar, 2010
87:
What? What's so great in 3 idiots? He stole exam paper as well. And, we, the engineers are just doing the basics of buying ready made projects. However, I don't promote such ideas, but the unorganized system of education is the reason to blame for!
If everyone studies like Aamir Khan then what about our future.. lol.
Students know how sick the education system is, the formal dress codes, the bans and unprofessional lectures are an added bonus for taking this into an worse level of education possible (exception). I, alone, cannot change this system and I don't think it's going to change anytime soon.
I am in my 2nd year of engg. education. I've transferred college and now studying in an much better environment, the point is we need to have better engg. colleges (as I've been in one of the not-so-best college) with educated lecturers and more focus on practicals and not on theories. Why do we even study 1st year of engg while we decide to take up our respective courses initially? WE are wasting the first year by studying everything, GOD DAMN Stick with the courses and not all the stuffs. Indeed, KNOWLEDGE is USEFUL but a human brain cannot digest everything!
I know my cribbing would not be seen in any of the history books, maybe, someone will read on here and get an over view that students aren't the one who are to blame. It's how this works.. if the whole system had an better environment then buying ready made projects would be out of context.
Peace and cheers! :)
If everyone studies like Aamir Khan then what about our future.. lol.
Students know how sick the education system is, the formal dress codes, the bans and unprofessional lectures are an added bonus for taking this into an worse level of education possible (exception). I, alone, cannot change this system and I don't think it's going to change anytime soon.
I am in my 2nd year of engg. education. I've transferred college and now studying in an much better environment, the point is we need to have better engg. colleges (as I've been in one of the not-so-best college) with educated lecturers and more focus on practicals and not on theories. Why do we even study 1st year of engg while we decide to take up our respective courses initially? WE are wasting the first year by studying everything, GOD DAMN Stick with the courses and not all the stuffs. Indeed, KNOWLEDGE is USEFUL but a human brain cannot digest everything!
I know my cribbing would not be seen in any of the history books, maybe, someone will read on here and get an over view that students aren't the one who are to blame. It's how this works.. if the whole system had an better environment then buying ready made projects would be out of context.
Peace and cheers! :)
Sidharth Replied to: Arun Pratap Singh
- 09 Mar, 2010
89:
Don't take serously, Basically all things depend on the student judgment on this issue. Which way they would like to go that is main obsession.
Posted by:Prof. Verma
- 06 Mar, 2010
90:
Every one want money. This kind of situation will bring down Indian Brain to zero level. We Indian are known for brain we have. So guys either do not do engineering or do it your self. You got the seat to engineering college, its a your luck, think of those who did not got it and want do some thing in life. Pay for learning but do not pay for ready-made solutions.
Posted by:Arun J
- 06 Mar, 2010
92:
This is stale news. Sorry for putting it so plainly. But the truth is, the student alone is not to blame. Lack of good lecturers who do not encourage their students but are always ready to condemn them is the main reason. Take the Practicals, for instance. The lecturers want the task to be done within the 3 hours of lab timings. If such enforcements exist, naturally students also find easy means to finish their task purely for the marks.
Posted by:sandhya
- 06 Mar, 2010
93:
i am not sure how good an idea it is for students to do projects only in college! Getting in an industry gives good exposure and understanding on the topic. If osmeone genuinly does work it doesn't matter where he does it - and if someone doesn't - then again this rule will be bypassed.
Posted by:Aditya
- 06 Mar, 2010
94:
The author is presenting like finding water in mars or something. This process has been in existence since the beginning of computer courses, like another commenter said. but not only for engineering courses. u can buy electronics projects, mechanics projects and project in any stream. And it is not only engineering students, degree and diploma students also do it. buying ready-made projects is the de-facto part of curriculum now.
Posted by:Saurabh
- 06 Mar, 2010
95:
True,I agree what Saurabh has mentioned, the article is being presented as if its something being discovered now!
Well,the rot has seeped into those doing Ph.d too, long back.One of my friend(who has doctorate in engineering) who before retiring from premier R& D organization joined a top ten Engineering college in Bangalore for teaching purpose.He once mentioned, after having seen how the lecturers in college obtain Doctorate, he felt ashamed to be called a fellow doctorate.The rot started from University or do we say the day politician/business man started owning up colleges and also university!
Colleges became business center (to mint money) and since(20 years back same story) long has ceased to be knowledge center.
Anyhow who takes up teaching job? Have we heard of any personality from Industry speaking of teaching students if not for entire time at least an hour in a day (of course once the retire from active position in a company) to share the knowledge that he/she gained through the success in his/her career…don't we know its those who for some reason were unlucky to get into industry.Some may say left over (though I have my reservation on such opinions as if industry has best of breed only!)Naturally most of them are there due to compulsion and not because they like it.so how does one expect best from them?
do we know of any training being imparted to those who need to teach.infact in West its norm that certain subjects, for example, management cannot be taught by person unless he/she has worked sufficiently long in industry in that position to teach it to others! And for that its not degree that matters but experience which is true fact.
Well, we know today in India MBA schools has mushroomed so much that you see every other person doing MBA…
Market is driven by demand verses supply. However,most of the time its other way round in India, the supply is always 10 times the demand be it anything. vegetable like tomato(we heard farmers throwing tomatoes on roads since the prices has fallen to level that gives no returns for their expenditure incurred) to Ph we are always over stalked
Well,the rot has seeped into those doing Ph.d too, long back.One of my friend(who has doctorate in engineering) who before retiring from premier R& D organization joined a top ten Engineering college in Bangalore for teaching purpose.He once mentioned, after having seen how the lecturers in college obtain Doctorate, he felt ashamed to be called a fellow doctorate.The rot started from University or do we say the day politician/business man started owning up colleges and also university!
Colleges became business center (to mint money) and since(20 years back same story) long has ceased to be knowledge center.
Anyhow who takes up teaching job? Have we heard of any personality from Industry speaking of teaching students if not for entire time at least an hour in a day (of course once the retire from active position in a company) to share the knowledge that he/she gained through the success in his/her career…don't we know its those who for some reason were unlucky to get into industry.Some may say left over (though I have my reservation on such opinions as if industry has best of breed only!)Naturally most of them are there due to compulsion and not because they like it.so how does one expect best from them?
do we know of any training being imparted to those who need to teach.infact in West its norm that certain subjects, for example, management cannot be taught by person unless he/she has worked sufficiently long in industry in that position to teach it to others! And for that its not degree that matters but experience which is true fact.
Well, we know today in India MBA schools has mushroomed so much that you see every other person doing MBA…
Market is driven by demand verses supply. However,most of the time its other way round in India, the supply is always 10 times the demand be it anything. vegetable like tomato(we heard farmers throwing tomatoes on roads since the prices has fallen to level that gives no returns for their expenditure incurred) to Ph we are always over stalked
shrinath Replied to: Saurabh
- 06 Mar, 2010
96:
Ready-made project was not begun today or yesterday. It has been selling from beginning of the stage since computer course started in college. students make dim their skills & opportunity themselves.
only one thing is students are satisfied themselves at shortest way to achieve their marks. But there is no gain in future for that type of project.
only one thing is students are satisfied themselves at shortest way to achieve their marks. But there is no gain in future for that type of project.
Posted by:Dhanaraj
- 06 Mar, 2010
97:
The colleges can give the projects to students and ask them to do in the college but how many professors are avaiable who can give the project and get it done mostly the colleges are not having profs and knoledge base is also less
Posted by:Dr vemuri pc rao
- 06 Mar, 2010
98:
This is really a bad thing happend in IT Field.
this is injustice to the students who are really doing hardwork to study.
the faculty of the college should make students fail who are buing readymade projets.
i also studying B.C.A. in saurashtra university,
my friends are also buying readymade projects and faculties of saurashtra university give them 80 to 90 marks in project .
this is injustice to the students who are really doing hardwork to study.
the faculty of the college should make students fail who are buing readymade projets.
i also studying B.C.A. in saurashtra university,
my friends are also buying readymade projects and faculties of saurashtra university give them 80 to 90 marks in project .
Posted by:Kamal Rachani
- 06 Mar, 2010
99:
This is really a bad thing. even i have done my engineering quite a long time back and right now running a software firm. Such new are like black spots in our it sector. If such things are heard by our clients how are outsourcing their work to us it will literally hamper our work.
After reading this article I will surely make sure that my hiring team recheck the applicant project reports before hiring because i this guys can't even effort to create their own project how will they create a new innovation projects in the sector?
Thank you silicoindia for the article
After reading this article I will surely make sure that my hiring team recheck the applicant project reports before hiring because i this guys can't even effort to create their own project how will they create a new innovation projects in the sector?
Thank you silicoindia for the article
pallav goswami Replied to: Kamal Rachani
- 06 Mar, 2010
100:
If eng student dont want to take streess then they shud not opt for the task like engineering
Posted by:Atul Singh
- 05 Mar, 2010
102:
This is going on for a long time. Just as in many fields there is a crisis of character and honesty it is there among some engineering students in their project work.
But who purchases project work and obtain degrees in Engineering when they go for interview for Technical jobs face the music. Especially in higher education and in acquiring jobs the project work plays a crucial role.
Some companies recruiting Engineering Graduates rely mostly on the project work done by the engineering graduates at the time of interview.
Moreover doing the project work by the student himself inculcates research methodology in him which will help in his further career.
Dr.A.Jagadeesh Nellore (AP)
This is going on for a long time. Just as in many fields there is a crisis of character and honesty it is there among some engineering students in their project work.
But who purchases project work and obtain degrees in Engineering when they go for interview for Technical jobs face the music. Especially in higher education and in acquiring jobs the project work plays a crucial role.
Some companies recruiting Engineering Graduates rely mostly on the project work done by the engineering graduates at the time of interview.
Moreover doing the project work by the student himself inculcates research methodology in him which will help in his further career.
Dr.A.Jagadeesh Nellore (AP)
Posted by:Dr.A.Jagadeesh
- 05 Mar, 2010
103:
this is pathetic. it kills innovation. they will stop using their brains and it will take them nowhere.
Posted by:ahana
- 05 Mar, 2010
104:
srsly! It should be curbed at initial stages before it poses threat to future of innovation!
Murali Replied to: ahana
- 06 Mar, 2010
105:
Its bad on student part to buy a proj but at the same time its the responsiblity of the evaluators to discourage this by giving bad marks to these stolen items.
I dont think its a big deal for a evaluator to judge if the student has actually burbt hand on the proj or not.
I dont think its a big deal for a evaluator to judge if the student has actually burbt hand on the proj or not.
Kashif Replied to: Murali
- 06 Mar, 2010
106:
I'm also the student of B.Tech and buying project is not only work on the big city,it also works in small city and towns. The student who buying the project has to shame on him/her.They are spoiling his/her and the COUNTRY future.Student who doing this should realise that they are the engineers not a normal human who find a certificate of coputer from a rode-side computer center.Engineers has his/her own identity.
So please don't do this and don't screw the engineering.
So please don't do this and don't screw the engineering.
Shashank Replied to: Kashif
- 06 Mar, 2010
107:
Hi
DO buying a project will be furnishing teh skills ? i don't think so .
do the system in the college will chane ? i don't think so .
do the institute will ever rasie any question from these .? no .
So what is the atleast moral of this story .
dear just be a human and genuine to urself wether not to any one but urself .
in 100 60 are into this line .. and rest 40 into CA or any other .
but still major factor is this and still we call overselfs as best .
well in short we are now trying to be pratical rather being ethical .
and mostly what is the worth of such output
15k , 20 k , max 30k for 5to 10 yrs time period ,
i would say better is to have something buisness rather wasting so much time and money .
DO buying a project will be furnishing teh skills ? i don't think so .
do the system in the college will chane ? i don't think so .
do the institute will ever rasie any question from these .? no .
So what is the atleast moral of this story .
dear just be a human and genuine to urself wether not to any one but urself .
in 100 60 are into this line .. and rest 40 into CA or any other .
but still major factor is this and still we call overselfs as best .
well in short we are now trying to be pratical rather being ethical .
and mostly what is the worth of such output
15k , 20 k , max 30k for 5to 10 yrs time period ,
i would say better is to have something buisness rather wasting so much time and money .
GGA Replied to: Shashank
- 06 Mar, 2010
108:
The real core problem in india is lack of practical knowleze.
Most of the time spend in theory classes and 2 to 3 hrs for practicals.The confidence of the students here goes down,when it comes to project,they dont know how to make it,so they opt for private sources.
There must be reforms in education system,I know it is no easy because one class more than 100 students,how it will be managed.HRD ministry should think about problem and bring some educational reforms in teaching of engineering structure.
Thanks
Most of the time spend in theory classes and 2 to 3 hrs for practicals.The confidence of the students here goes down,when it comes to project,they dont know how to make it,so they opt for private sources.
There must be reforms in education system,I know it is no easy because one class more than 100 students,how it will be managed.HRD ministry should think about problem and bring some educational reforms in teaching of engineering structure.
Thanks
saurabh Replied to: GGA
- 07 Mar, 2010
109:
Dear Students,
The final year project works need the correct application of engineering and scientific principles for the specification,analysis,design and development of a "project"
irrespective of its application, size and performance.
As a Professor, I have been guiding more than 10 teams every year and we are publishing our works as International Conference or Journal papers. We are respecting the students potential and their ideas and trying to give an engineering touch.As most of you said that staff members may not be in a position to guide you as what you expected since teachers including myself are not experts in atleast one area. But we are also learning with our students. Let us grow together but dont allow others to grow in between us.There may be some faculty members who have not realized the importance of the students talent since they are also freshers. Forgive them and let us prove ourself in a small domain atleast.
We have to learn and work for ourselves including me.
The final year project works need the correct application of engineering and scientific principles for the specification,analysis,design and development of a "project"
irrespective of its application, size and performance.
As a Professor, I have been guiding more than 10 teams every year and we are publishing our works as International Conference or Journal papers. We are respecting the students potential and their ideas and trying to give an engineering touch.As most of you said that staff members may not be in a position to guide you as what you expected since teachers including myself are not experts in atleast one area. But we are also learning with our students. Let us grow together but dont allow others to grow in between us.There may be some faculty members who have not realized the importance of the students talent since they are also freshers. Forgive them and let us prove ourself in a small domain atleast.
We have to learn and work for ourselves including me.
Chandrasekaran Replied to: saurabh
- 07 Mar, 2010
110:
While I agree with most of the part you have narrated, however, the thought of "Let us grow together but dont allow others to grow in between us" are certainly not appreciated.
Whoever it might be, whatever be the case. We shouldn't worry about others who are growing in a way.. maybe I took it in the wrong way! Probably not...
Whoever it might be, whatever be the case. We shouldn't worry about others who are growing in a way.. maybe I took it in the wrong way! Probably not...
Sidharth Replied to: Chandrasekaran
- 11 Mar, 2010
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