Fights can be healthy for organisations?
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SiliconIndia,Wednesday, 02 December 2009, 19:13 Hrs
Bangalore: Most leadership experts argue that the best way to manage change is to create alignment. However, a research by the Harvard Business Review indicates that, for large-scale change or innovation initiatives, a healthy dose of dissent is usually just as important. Within an acceptable range of competition and tension, science shows that dissent will fire up more of an individual's brain, stimulating more pathways and engaging more creative centers. In short, more of what makes people unique, innovative, and passionate is available for use.

When Dick Fuld took over at Lehman Brothers in 1994 as its Chairman, he inherited a contentious culture. Traders and investment bankers would not share ideas and competed for business, putting their own interests above the firm's in nearly every instance.
In Fuld's own words, published in Knowledge@Wharton in 2007, "The early Lehman Brothers was a great example of how not to do it. It was all about me. My job. My people. Pay me." But by the mid-1990s, the financial services industry had shifted toward an integrated sales model, and such blatant disregard for teamwork didn't fly any longer. Fuld made unity and collaboration priorities at the firm, nudging them along with employee incentives. By the time of its collapse, in 2008, Lehman reportedly had one of the strongest cultures of teamwork and loyalty on Wall Street. As Fortune had noted in April 2006, "Fuld has incongruously turned Lehman into one of Wall Street's most harmonious firms."
The effort to eliminate discord at the firm had backfired. Lehman's board of directors and management team became too agreeable and too loyal, content to follow even when they knew better. In 2007 and 2008, numerous signals indicated that the firm was heading into a crisis, but insiders who paid attention to them were afraid to point out the elephant in the room. It turned out that 'loyalty meant loyalty to Fuld,' according to accounts from former employees. That loyalty led Lehman executives to an almost willful blindness. Nobody wanted to disrupt the peace.
The problem is that a peaceful, harmonious workplace can be the worst possible thing for a business, according to consultancy eePulse, which conducts in-depth surveys that measure employee engagement. Complacency, in fact, is the single greatest predictor of poor company performance. The second greatest? An environment in which employees are overwhelmed. In the first case, employees are reluctant to rock the boat. In the second, the level of employee satisfaction is low and the amount of dysfunctional fighting is high. In both situations, low energy levels and fear of political fallout curb action that might address any looming crisis. At Lehman, many alumnus said that, raising difficult questions could kill one's career.
Many successful companies are known for their stressful work environments. Microsoft, in its early days, had one of the most contentious, high-strung, and fast-paced corporate cultures in the United States. Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer were famous for yelling at people. Food distributor Sysco, an unusually successful company built on roll-ups and acquisitions, dismisses district managers who don't meet annual productivity targets. Market leaders Goldman Sachs and McKinsey are notoriously competitive, hard-driving places to work.
According to the report, the time is ripe to own up to the truth that the right balance of alignment and competition is what pushes individuals and groups to do their best. Alignment is important, but the purpose of alignment is not harmonious agreement. It is to sustain an organization's ability to fight for what really matters, and to pull everyone together again once the fight is resolved.
When Dick Fuld took over at Lehman Brothers in 1994 as its Chairman, he inherited a contentious culture. Traders and investment bankers would not share ideas and competed for business, putting their own interests above the firm's in nearly every instance.
In Fuld's own words, published in Knowledge@Wharton in 2007, "The early Lehman Brothers was a great example of how not to do it. It was all about me. My job. My people. Pay me." But by the mid-1990s, the financial services industry had shifted toward an integrated sales model, and such blatant disregard for teamwork didn't fly any longer. Fuld made unity and collaboration priorities at the firm, nudging them along with employee incentives. By the time of its collapse, in 2008, Lehman reportedly had one of the strongest cultures of teamwork and loyalty on Wall Street. As Fortune had noted in April 2006, "Fuld has incongruously turned Lehman into one of Wall Street's most harmonious firms."
The effort to eliminate discord at the firm had backfired. Lehman's board of directors and management team became too agreeable and too loyal, content to follow even when they knew better. In 2007 and 2008, numerous signals indicated that the firm was heading into a crisis, but insiders who paid attention to them were afraid to point out the elephant in the room. It turned out that 'loyalty meant loyalty to Fuld,' according to accounts from former employees. That loyalty led Lehman executives to an almost willful blindness. Nobody wanted to disrupt the peace.
The problem is that a peaceful, harmonious workplace can be the worst possible thing for a business, according to consultancy eePulse, which conducts in-depth surveys that measure employee engagement. Complacency, in fact, is the single greatest predictor of poor company performance. The second greatest? An environment in which employees are overwhelmed. In the first case, employees are reluctant to rock the boat. In the second, the level of employee satisfaction is low and the amount of dysfunctional fighting is high. In both situations, low energy levels and fear of political fallout curb action that might address any looming crisis. At Lehman, many alumnus said that, raising difficult questions could kill one's career.
Many successful companies are known for their stressful work environments. Microsoft, in its early days, had one of the most contentious, high-strung, and fast-paced corporate cultures in the United States. Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer were famous for yelling at people. Food distributor Sysco, an unusually successful company built on roll-ups and acquisitions, dismisses district managers who don't meet annual productivity targets. Market leaders Goldman Sachs and McKinsey are notoriously competitive, hard-driving places to work.
According to the report, the time is ripe to own up to the truth that the right balance of alignment and competition is what pushes individuals and groups to do their best. Alignment is important, but the purpose of alignment is not harmonious agreement. It is to sustain an organization's ability to fight for what really matters, and to pull everyone together again once the fight is resolved.
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Reader's comments (41)
1: Conflict is very good for organisation.It
will incress the productivity of both the
persons. Energy which is inside the person
will cme out with a conflict.
But for a human being it go -'ve .It will also incress the pressure of the human being,also it will bring other defects for humans....
But for a human being it go -'ve .It will also incress the pressure of the human being,also it will bring other defects for humans....
Posted by: Sanu - 14 Feb, 2010
2: A person who yells does so because he either
has no power or doesn't know how to use the
power he has. I agree that conflict is
beneficial in an organization. However
conflict is not synonymous with yelling. In
fact it has nothing to do with yelling,
demoralizing, blaming, belittling or
fighting. Conflict is simply a difference
opinions, thoughts, concerns etc. How you
respond to the differences determines the
benefit.
Posted by: Dawn - 04 Jan, 2010
3: Call it what you want. It is just another
form of verbal abuse.
Posted by: JoANN CHRISTENSEN - 24 Dec, 2009
4: Fights are always unhealthy for an
individual.
Posted by: Prakash Kumar Rath - 09 Dec, 2009
5: Obviously Yes! Jungle rule also says that won
who survives / wins is healthier. (Health is
Wealth)
Posted by: Gods_must_be_crazy - 07 Dec, 2009
6: Yes, conflicts ("fights") are opportunities
for people to grow.
But I would suggest that these refer mostly to "healthy" conflicts that, when handled with care, can be productive.
But I would suggest that these refer mostly to "healthy" conflicts that, when handled with care, can be productive.
Posted by: Pascalis Raphael Claudius - 04 Dec, 2009
7: Yelling can be fruitful when it is purposeful
aimed at not to vent frustration but to
produce results when other modes have not
been effective. As per our traditional
philosophy also, SAM, DAM, DANDA n BHEDA are
suggested to be used to produce desired
results. Boss needs to aplly different
strokes to differents folks with proper
Balance in right mix. it is difficult to say
that same approach can be applied all the
times. It has to be situation and ambience
specific to be effective.
Posted by: subhash sharma - 03 Dec, 2009
8: Not true - these could be one of the many
attributes (good and bad) of Sr. Execs of
these firms, but didn't contribute to their
being successful.
Posted by: Siddharth - 03 Dec, 2009
9: I donot agree with the topic that the fights
are good for organisation because conflicts
are never good for organisation.Being
authoritative and getting the task done by
making the situation stressful are one
aspects but creating a contentious
environment is not at all good.Especially now
a days because today what happens that even
one is getting paid more than other
organisation but if he is not getting the
right work environment then he may turn out
to be a job hopper.Definetely a boss or a
supervisor should have some gravity but being
authoritative all the times will not be good
for the organisation.He should definetely
have empathy for the employees.He should be
authoritative only when the situation demands
Posted by: Sumi - 03 Dec, 2009
10: The title of your article was a
misinterpretation of verbiage. "Fights"
definitely are NOT good in the work
atmosphere ever. What the words originally
were saying that "voiced different opinions
and ideas" being brought out in a brainstorm
type meeting are a good thing. That has
nothing to do with "fights". It's healthy to
know the ideas of people.
Posted by: Christie Fox - 03 Dec, 2009
11:in addition, in my entire work life I've
never ever heard a boss yell. So discussing
yelling and fighting is moot.
Christie Fox replied to: Christie Fox
post - 03 Dec, 2009
post - 03 Dec, 2009
12: There is a very thin line between yelling and
arrogance of power. Any success or failure
story shall have many facets and it will be
too simplistic to assume that yelling has
made the difference. it is I must say not
yelling but focussing on results rather than
blind compliance (yes man ship) which is key
driving factor for better performance. an
understanding between boss and subordinate
about what is required to be done, an honest
feedback about where the subordinate is
failing and what more he has to do. If by
reading this article, bosses start yelling at
top of their voices more and more without
paying attention to other finer aspects of
driving better performance that I am not sure
that they will be able to take their company
to commanding heights.
Posted by: prashant - 03 Dec, 2009
13: Yelling can only make the job done, no matter
how,, but next time the employee will be
changed ;)
Do you remember what Infosys Head says Employee change company because of manager not because of company,,
Do you remember what Infosys Head says Employee change company because of manager not because of company,,
Posted by: Girish Uppin - 03 Dec, 2009
14: Work is GOD. I don't know how recent
companies are becoming the "Most Preferred
Employers" when they do not offer or promise
like we heard in our childhood of TATA Steel
and few other public sectors where they used
to offer Lifelong employment to the family of
their employees which is still being followed
by TATA Steel (Pvt sector only)
Gods_must_be_crazy
Posted by: Gods_must_be_crazy - 03 Dec, 2009
15: It is half true and wrong half,
The yelling boss is always needed for the manufacturing house, where with out the bamboo many thing did not take shape. But the same time, the boss has to look into the requirement of his sub-ordinate - which will definetely give them the soothing effect ( after shocks).
It is true, todays world change, nobody need boss, they think they are the boss and need no listening to any one.
once, you invest and not making out of it, all the guys who had written yelling of boss will be known....
This is fact and true..
The yelling boss is always needed for the manufacturing house, where with out the bamboo many thing did not take shape. But the same time, the boss has to look into the requirement of his sub-ordinate - which will definetely give them the soothing effect ( after shocks).
It is true, todays world change, nobody need boss, they think they are the boss and need no listening to any one.
once, you invest and not making out of it, all the guys who had written yelling of boss will be known....
This is fact and true..
Posted by: uppukar - 03 Dec, 2009
16: Office with a yelling boss would definitely
have higher attrition rate. Most of the good
resources would leave the organization
reducing the productivity. Productivity
always comes from encouragement, incentives,
bonuses never ever by yelling
Posted by: Vihari Sharma - 03 Dec, 2009
17: Harvard case study is just a Case Study.
Microsoft's case could be an isolated one.
Microsoft is not the only successful company
on this earth. Why don't we look at other
successful companies with great work
atmosphere like Google...
Posted by: Sudhir jagtap - 03 Dec, 2009
18: I would go unproductive with a yelling boss
Posted by: Ramu - 03 Dec, 2009
19: When the boss is yelling type, there is real
urgency to show progress and that is what is
done under such circumstances. The people
concentrate on how to project rather than how
to produce. That may give illusion of better
progress. that is all. Real things happen
with real harmony, that is team work.We
indians, are used to respect bosses like gods
and pass on tensions to our subordinates.
Take tension and give tensions is just the
way of working for us. It is neither good
socially or ethically, it does not add to
productivity either.
Posted by: R P Singh - 03 Dec, 2009
20:I agree with Mr. RP Singh. In crisis
situation what happens is different from
routine situation. Fire fighting should last
till the emergency is over.
Subrahmanyam replied to: R P Singh
post - 03 Dec, 2009
post - 03 Dec, 2009
21: I agree to what has been said here, I myself
have tried and this really works out...
Posted by: Smart Guy - 02 Dec, 2009
22:It means that you have recruited totally dumb
witted ppl under you. You seem to be taking
pride at this it just shows how incapable as
a manager you are Mr Smart Ass
utsav replied to: Smart Guy
post - 03 Dec, 2009
post - 03 Dec, 2009
23: I dont completely agree with Utsav. If Boss
is friendly with his team I dont think his
team will work hard. If there some kind of
pressure from Boss defintly you see good
productvity.
Ali replied to: utsav
post - 03 Dec, 2009
post - 03 Dec, 2009
24: I think this is most illogical and stupid
one.A office with a YELLING BOSS will be hell
place to work in.People will only try to
finish their work some how.. to avoid the
yelling, which will affect the aqurace and
qaulity of work
Posted by: Krishna - 02 Dec, 2009
25: This is ridiculous & definitely not
expexted from Harvard. Its like beating the
kids when they are not listening to you and
getting things done from them. This might be
good for short term but definitely harmful
for long term. Lehman Bros. example is
totally unjustifiable as its part of history
now. Microsoft succeeded because of the
monopoly enjoyed by them in those years. So
Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer used to yell at
people is not the reason for sucess of
Microsoft. Again, Microsoft will no longer be
a great story in future as their monopoly in
IT market is gradually falling.
Posted by: Manish - 02 Dec, 2009
26: I do not agree threat can bring best of pupil
and similar yelling in office environment
will, It can only ask employee to wait for
his turn to negative side..
I believe there can be many better way of motivating then yelling. Yelling will employed those who are worth better than that. I am talking about - what's best for the company && i am not employer nor manager biased here.
I believe there can be many better way of motivating then yelling. Yelling will employed those who are worth better than that. I am talking about - what's best for the company && i am not employer nor manager biased here.
Posted by: udayk - 02 Dec, 2009
27:good one, me to same
avi replied to: udayk
post - 03 Dec, 2009
post - 03 Dec, 2009
28: thanx, now I can afford to yell and would
love the one coming from the bosses. but
anyway, dont agree with that yelling can be
creativity dose at all
Posted by: akhilesh kumar singh - 02 Dec, 2009
29: just like a critic... he speaks harsh.. but
hsi intensions are not bad.. similarly a
harsh manager does not mean bad for the
company... infact yes mens are like friends
who never point out your negative side ...
but remember then they are not ur best
frnds..
Posted by: Rajiv - 02 Dec, 2009
30: I dont agree with the point he his making.
Yelling kills the employees creativity, there are some reaserch found that praising improves quality commanding increases productivity but it degrades quality.
Yelling kills the employees creativity, there are some reaserch found that praising improves quality commanding increases productivity but it degrades quality.
Posted by: Vijay - 02 Dec, 2009
31: They forgot the name of one of the person
whose yelling has taken company from down to
up - it's Steve Jobs of Apple Inc.
Posted by: shipu - 02 Dec, 2009
32: Silicon India has become almost what Aaj Tak
news channel in hindi is. Can this sort of
news and research be ever justified? And it
takes pride to put such news at its top
headline. Shameless fellows.
Posted by: rajiv - 02 Dec, 2009
33: In the next case study, if somebody finds out
that getting black and blue from the boss is
the best way to grow in an organisation, then
Silicon India will be the first to publish
that. This study does has its pros and cons
but it seems Silicon India loves the cons
more. If there is any award on publishing the
highest number of rubbish news then I won't
be surprised if Silicon India is on the top
list.
Posted by: useless information - 02 Dec, 2009
34: Yelling at each other will have a detrimental
effect on the work environment especially in
India. The sub-ordinate will always wait for
an opportunity to teach his superior a lesson
or two when the situation arises.
Inter-personal relationship will sour &
there will be lack of harmony.
Posted by: sheshadri - 02 Dec, 2009
35:I completely agree with you!
Kiran replied to: sheshadri
post - 03 Dec, 2009
post - 03 Dec, 2009
36: To an certain extent it is true and worth to
propel the best out of your people. I am not
diplomatic here. Uunderstand the example of
Indian biggies like tata, reliance, etc etc.
Why would Tata build a new small car, why
would reliance venture in troubled business
like retail, just in order to beat the
competition and be competitive.
Team work with colleagues is execptionally great when you have to get the work done on priority however people below needs to be shown the stick as and when required. Might as well set an example.
Team work with colleagues is execptionally great when you have to get the work done on priority however people below needs to be shown the stick as and when required. Might as well set an example.
Posted by: Prashant - 02 Dec, 2009
37: this is the most stupidest study ever. making
such studies public will only egg on bosses
to be more demonic to their teams. How can an
organization with unhappy and mentally
bruised employees prosper. As for Gates and
his ilk... the less said the better. You can
make a research like this point to whatever u
want to! why did silicon india even bother to
publish this?
Posted by: rohit - 02 Dec, 2009
38: Better team work and co-operation each other
will give great results, even moral support
to beginners in industry also play important
role in success. Manager must be co-operative
towards getting success the project. he also
should have observation on leads.
Posted by: Ravi Prasad - 02 Dec, 2009
39: really? do such examples justify this trend?
i m not sure - but there are pros and cons to
such things. a boss yelling can have the most
negative...
Posted by: sagarika - 02 Dec, 2009
40:i wonder from where they are able to get such
news...Is it realy a result of Harward or
silicon India's Own ideas...
prince replied to: sagarika
post - 02 Dec, 2009
post - 02 Dec, 2009
41:I recalled one instance about Alfred Sloans,
Head of General Motors. In a board meeting he
announced-"I believe everyone is in agreement
with this decision". All the directors nodded
in agreement. then Sloans said " I that case
let us postpone taking this decision untill
we have some diverse opinion because unless
we debate, we will not understand the issues"
Prashant replied to: Das Menon
post - 03 Dec, 2009
post - 03 Dec, 2009
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