(28)
Sign in to your SiliconIndia account
Email:       Password:  
Don't have SiliconIndia account? Sign up     Forgot your password? Reset

Bad bosses can be good for economy

By SiliconIndia,Monday, 16 November 2009, 19:03 Hrs
New Delhi: Pay cuts, layoffs and unemployment - recession couldn't have been worse. On top of this if you have a bad boss you might have a tough time surviving. But an expert is claiming that bad and evil bosses are better suited for recession.

Scott Adams, the Creator of Dilbert, the cartoon strip that adds a comic element to 2,000 solemn newspapers across 70 countries, has discovered merit in evil bosses. Adams is convinced that difficult bosses can be good, as they help spawn entrepreneurs. "The worse bosses are, the better it is for the economy. In the old days people were born entrepreneurs, but today people are forced into entrepreneurship whether they like it or not," he told Economic Times in an interview.
Bad bosses can be good for economy


His comments might be based on the U.S economy and its worst recession since Great Depression, but California resident Adams could well be looking at India and Indians from the same entrepreneurial prism going forward. And future Dilbert strips could see India and Indians depicted differently. Adams says that Indians have moved far ahead of the image of the smart, yet inexperienced office intern Asok, who is one of Dilbert's colleague. An IITian by qualification, Asok has been bestowed with psychic powers but continues to work for someone. But this might change soon. "He's the most confident person with the least power. Maybe, I'll have him strike out and be an entrepreneur some day."

"Trouble is that in order to be a good boss you got to be kind of a jerk, you got to be selfish and be willing to hurt other people to advance your own cause. I'm not like that. People try and take advantage of me pretty easily," says Adams, who has for years entertained millions every morning with his wit on employer-employee relationships. Asked about the impact of the U.S. recession on Dilbert, Adams has his own, and distinctive take.

"There are two things going on in the U.S. right now. If you don't have a job, and that's a lot of people, then things are pretty bad obviously. But those people who have kept their jobs, what they're finding is that the price of stuff is lower. When you order something that used to take a lot of weeks to be built and get shipped to you, you're getting it in a month. In a weird way, there are a lot of people who are moving into houses they couldn't have afforded before the crash," Adams added.

From a Dilbert point of view, the U.S. recession has done some good. "There's a period when everything is great and it's an employee's market and they ask for more money or they're going somewhere else. But right now we're in a period, where obviously you want to keep your employer happy because finding another job is going to be hard," says Adams. And this new insight has a source. Adams, who is building a new 'green' home in Pleasanton, California, is seeing attitudes change first-hand.

"You've never seen such good cooperation from all the sub-contractors. Everybody shows to work because there isn't that much work to have. It turned out to be the very best time to build a house because everybody's so eager to work. It's strange because usually the upside is not very obvious. I'm sure during the Great Depression there probably wasn't anybody who was better off."

For the past 20 years Adams' cartoons have ridiculed corporate workplaces and the 'Cubicle life' and everything around it, from management fads to consultants to evil bosses. But he says the central character of Dilbert borrows a bit from his own personality. "I certainly have shared some of his traits. I'm socially awkward and had trouble getting dates when I was his age, and a bit nerdy, so there's a lot of me in him. But I am more of Dogbert, the side of me that has a running conversation in my head saying inappropriate things. I use Dogbert as the character who says out loud the things I'm thinking," he said.

   
Write your comment now     |     Submit your news/press release


Your Name    Email: 
Type the characters you see in the picture

  Cancel
Let our editorial department know about any news about your company, your organization, or yourself, or any press release that you have. If we find it suitable for our audience, we will contact you and make a news. Please also share any links for the news.

Chr left
Your name     Email 
Type the characters you see in the picture

Reader's comments (28)
1: You mean to say I should thank my boss for a thriving enterprise I have going! He sure fitted the bill!Mean, Ugly, Evil, Nasty and Ugly to boot!
Posted by: Shirin Abbas - 18 Nov, 2009

2: Everyone has good qualities if someone who understands other's problem & try to solve the same,is best boss as well as employee also. Because both think to well for the organization. Problems come to us only to teach us how we can solve the same better way. In difficult situations our mind do work more effectivelly & creativelly. It shows that kindness always live in highest positioned person also. If we think positive then next one will have to be positive by the nature's principle.
Sudha Asthana
Posted by: sudha - 18 Nov, 2009

3: I am still trying to understand as to what one should take away from the expert above... the fact that there are bad / good bossed & how to identify them... or undertsand recession in Western & Eastern part of the world... or how things have been good for some & bad for some due to the econimoc conditions... or how there are always certain good things & opportunities that are there in every situation, whether good or bad...
It is subjective for everyone but I personally would go for the last thought...
Posted by: Sumanta Ghosh - 17 Nov, 2009

4: I dont think in India anyone likes to work under a Indian Boss when compared with a bosses of other country as I have personally seen lot of politics going around within the organization related to caste, comunity etc..
Posted by: Pankaj - 17 Nov, 2009

5: I personally do not believe that the recession was a drama enacted by the western world under the leadership of USA to weaken the emerging economies in the Latin America and Asia.

Pl. read " I personally do believe...."
Posted by: Roy - 17 Nov, 2009

6: A boss who knows his work and his subordinates work and also ruthlessly adhere to his time schedule to meet the targets is always treated as a bad boss because..every body knows....I do not know what the subordinates in the rest of the world thinks about such a boss. Yes..in a period of recession such a boss is always an asset to the organisation he works. In India, I do not believe that we faced a recession as what was advertised in the western world. Whatever was said here was a pretext to retrench the employees and make the rest to work for more hours at a reduced pay...and of course to raise the interest rates of banks. I personally do not believe that the recession was a drama enacted by the western world under the leadership of USA to weaken the emerging economies in the Latin America and Asia.
Posted by: Roy - 17 Nov, 2009

7: there are two way to see the world.one part is too bright to say anything and another one too dark to see the actual thing. bosses r always bad for his junior is one part and bosses are always good is another thought. well its all depends on your own view. but bad bosses fiar for economy is not complitely true. after all workers under a boss give their all good efforts only when they inspired the good quality of leadership. so may be this survey appllied for usa but things are not same in other country coporates.
Posted by: Bishwajeet kumar - 17 Nov, 2009

8:WHO IS A BOSS? ALSO WHO IS A BIG BOSS? BOTH BLEADY CHEAT AND EQUALLY SAME. THEY THINK THAT THEY MAY BE THE BOSS BUT THEY WILL NEVER REALISED BY WHOM WE OR I MADE AS BOSS.THEY WERE CREATED BY THE REAL AND TRUE INNOCENT PEOPLE BEHIND THEM.THEY ARE ALSO ILLETRTATED AND UNEDUCATED AND THE BOSS WIL NOT EVEN THINK AND TRY TO MAKE THEM EDUCATED IN ANY LEVEL HE HAS BEEN SO CALLED BOSS. CALLED BOSSES AND BIGBOSSES. BUT THEY WILL OUGHT REMEMBER AND REALISE IT SOON BECAUSE THE REAL BOSS IS THE POOR UNEDUCATED PEOPLE OF COUNTRY. SOON IT MAY HAPPEN.
 AISHWARYA RAI replied to: Bishwajeet kumar 
 post - 17 Nov, 2009

9: a copied bit frm ET
Posted by: sowmya - 17 Nov, 2009

10: Well, very few Indians really wants to work under Indian boss, (with the possible exception of the government guys, and the corporate/BPO sector). Everyone is desperte to be a boss. It is part of our ancient history, wherein by hook or crook, the scheme is the overthrow one's superior, if it is possible. If not possible, adorn the pose of a willing slave, till oppurtunity strikes. When the oppurtunit strikes, the subordinate is another person altogether. It is basically connected to our stiffling feudal language and communication. Now, it seems the these things have arrived in the English shores also. God save the society there!
Posted by: Ved from Victoria Institutions - 17 Nov, 2009

11: how come a bad and evil manager is good.
if it is happen then it must be a temporary, definitely it wont be permanent
Posted by: Narendra - 17 Nov, 2009

12: it depends on the definition of bad boss. if bad boss is tough task master and end of day able to produce good results and if bad boss never allow you to have easy task, keep you work hard. the statement is true.

apart from this category, one can not expect any thing positive.
Posted by: rajeev - 17 Nov, 2009

13:Hi,

to be strict in task and responsibilities, is not a bad and evil boss, its a strict boss and naturally every one respects that but we r talking about Bad (Evil) boss.

I hope we can not resolve the difference between Bad and Strict Boss.

Thanks
 Samir Momin replied to: rajeev 
 post - 17 Nov, 2009

14: Hi,

again I will make Peoples remind Newtons Law who use to forget again and again " there is equal and opposite reaction for a action" so.... Bad action will get Bad reaction. I cant understand How "Bad" Boss can ever generate " good" economy.

Samir Momin.
Posted by: Samir Momin - 16 Nov, 2009

15:I am agree with your formula and explanation, but bad and evil managers by giving wrong feedback about team members they are indirectly spoiling company atmosphere, other team members are scared to work under such evil and bad managers, but high level managenet never have time to look into low level team member feedback, just they adicted to believe manager words, and doing action by firing the candiates, but later few months.. if more no. of candiates eaving from the company, managenet sure will observe the things where exactly the root cause? this is what really happened in many places, high level management never listen team member words... such a bad, evil and highly -ve talented managers around innocent and intelligent people, any how whatever cost nothing to worry.. he is good or bad manager doesnot matter, if the guy who is fired is more talented, he will get more benefits in short time than his coleagues in previous company... finally the conculsion is thinking about manager good or bad nothing will get, how to show our talent in next company, we must act like lead and should be moral support to many of the guys who suffered like us...
 Ravi Prasad replied to: Samir Momin 
 post - 16 Nov, 2009

16: Hi,
For short Period you can feel Bad Boss is good for company and economy boss, if it will come to team members Company Will not servive with the help of Bad Bosses and therefore economy that is for sure from my side.

So there should be a good boss, mind it!

Samir Momin
Posted by: Samir Momin - 16 Nov, 2009

17: this is really pathetic situation when the people are appreciating bad bosses and managers, and the logic itself that that bad management can promote entrepreneurship is definitely screwed up, or the person making such argument is a bad manager himself, yea definitely the bosses may push the employees and may or may not get any productivity out them, but definitely kill the zeal for entrepreneurship, which only buds from a free flowing thought process and 'undying' zeal of materialising those ideas, which a bad manager can only 'nip in the buds', good or bad for economy but bad bosses are definitely bad news for the budding entrepreneurs
Posted by: shivansh - 16 Nov, 2009

18:A valid point by shiv.
“Survival of the fittest” is a good phase, but “Nobody is unfit” should be the view, if it’s to be looked positively. The strategy of any organization paves way to different behavioral patterns in different people. But exhibiting a behavioral pattern in a manner that people with us are comfortable, lies in the individual. If the labeled Bad bosses are contributing to upturn in entrepreneurs, then the entrepreneur should be appreciated/supported by us, for his/her guts to be so. Let us not worry/pay attention to theses bad/bosses, for they get their turn to accurate or cleanse. All the struggle an employee puts to tackle a bad boss should groom him professionally & personally. For this to happen we need to either avoid paying attention to erratic games played/ or wisely handle it in a manner that his as… burns by our approach.
 Ram replied to: shivansh 
 post - 17 Nov, 2009

19: Great Techies.... by seeing this conversion threads, they have changed the tile of this article... first they dispolayed like this -Bad and evil bosses are best bosses during recession- now it is like this -Bad bosses can be good for economy-... once they mention evil bosses. they cannot limit this article, because lot of evil managers are present in this society, for that they removed that word...
Posted by: Ravi Prasad - 16 Nov, 2009

20: Very true Ravi. We hear these kind of stories very often these days. Thats why many people choose to start their own business so that they can do things the way they want & when they want & being the boss of their own destiny...
Posted by: Manesh Mohan - 16 Nov, 2009

21:Thank you manesh,sidhu and ddfdf,
but my intension is different like, recession is good for innocent people, to prove their talents in other companies, by seeing fired candiate presence in other companies the previous employers must think to change the company as immediately as possible... if it happends like that while firing candiate they will look at manager profile and feedback also...

Ha Ha Ha... how many techies likes my openion, i dont know, but surely we can change the world aganist the meaning of the word RECESSION
 Ravi Prasad replied to: Manesh Mohan 
 post - 16 Nov, 2009

22: 1000% true, they dont have any of +ve attitude, they only know cruetly against subordinates... their personal worries and depressions are showing on team members... it may not effect the candiate, but it effects the company, when company looses one effiecient guy by getting BIG Zero feedback,

Real talented people never worry about all these non-sense things... they can prove wherever they got appointed. He also get good fecilities and hike than previous company...

still I didnt understand, then what is the use of throwing out an efficient candiate? going effect candiate career or going to spoil present company resources? waiting for more replies... if u like my comment...
Posted by: Ravi Prasad - 16 Nov, 2009

23:I am one of the fellow for the above statement..
 Sidhu replied to: Ravi Prasad 
 post - 16 Nov, 2009

24: Yes Ravi.. You are pretty much true.
 Praveen replied to:  Sidhu 
 post - 16 Nov, 2009

25: I am also same thing.Its good But we know what we
 ddfdf replied to:  Sidhu 
 post - 16 Nov, 2009

26: It is 100% true. I am totally agreeing to the above article.
 diwakarreddy  replied to: ddfdf 
 post - 16 Nov, 2009

27: It may be true that bad bossses are best at certain instances but they are just exceptions. that incidents are only ephemarel. Such kind of incidents just happen instead of being the result of any intended positive effort. But good is always victorious irrespective the arena and walk of life. Bad can never beat the good. Good has been having its good survival for long long ago. time and again it is proved that good is the one what has the support of great people and god in turns. So don't get allured by this article. Be good ,great and live lively and let the juniors live happily with your absolute support in their growth
 manoj bharal  replied to: diwakarreddy 
 post - 17 Nov, 2009

28:The time is really bad and on top of Bad booss, this sometime can become nightmare. Therefore, at this situation you should not loose your temprament. And as always said the good and hardwork is always victorious and pays off. So be a good boss and be good to boss.
 kailash joshi  replied to: manoj bharal  
 post - 18 Nov, 2009
Disclaimer
Messages posted on this Web site under the `Comments' area are solely the opinions of those who have posted them and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Infoconnect Web Technologies India Pvt Ltd or its site www.siliconindia.com. Gossip, mud slinging and malicious attacks on individuals and organizations are strictly prohibited. Infoconnect Web Technologies India Pvt Ltd can not be held responsible for errors or omissions in content, nor for the authenticity of the user/company name or email addresses associated with posted messages. Infoconnect Web Technologies India Pvt Ltd reserves the right to edit or remove messages containing inappropriate language or any other material that could be construed as libelous, potentially libelous, or otherwise offensive or inappropriate.Infoconnect Web Technologies India Pvt Ltd do not endorse the products and services or any other offerings mentioned in these messages.

Beautiful and dress selection, please go to Dresses
Plan on visiting the Lotus Temple? Get Great Deals on Delhi Hotels !
Buy India Wholesale Products on DHgate.com
SPOTLIGHT



News:           Technology   |   Enterprise IT   |   Tech Products   |   Startups   |   Finance   |   Business   |   Career   |   Magazine  |   Dailydose   |   News archive   |  
RSS
Network:       Network   |   Profile   |   Messages   |   Scrapbook   |   Find   |   Blogs   |   Communities   |   Events   |   Q&A   |   CXO Insights  
Career:        Jobs   |   Companies     |   Mentorship   |   Videos   |   Career blogs   |   Training institutions  |   Freshers
Online courses:   Web developer   |   Java developer   |   CCNA training   |   SEO   |   SAS   |   SQL server 2005   |   J2EE
Education:   MBA   |  MCA   |   Engineering   |   Overseas Education   |   Internship
Life:                  Jokes   |    Bookstore   |   Relocate  |  Marketplace
Cities:             Startup   |  Real estate   |   Finance  
Company:   About us   |   Contact   |   Help   |   Community rules   |   Advertise with us   |   Sitemap
Member directory:   A  B  C  D  E  F  G  H  I  J  K  L  M  N  O  P  Q  R  S  T  U  V  W  X  Y  Z   
and help us continue to improve SiliconIndia
© 2010 SiliconIndia all rights reserved