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Bangalore: Call it 'ethical erosion'. Majority of the Indian employees have no qualm in finishing their personal work during the office hours. They are even ready to resort to any unethical means to get competitor information, says a workplace ethics survey released by staffing company Teamlease.
Almost 62 percent respondents would use any means to get competitor information, while 63 percent had no problem in doing personal work in office. The survey involved employees from India's top 500 companies across eight cities with a sample size of 401.
The extent of the moral and ethical degradation among today's employees was more exposed when 62 percent of the respondents thought it was normal to bribe someone to get work done.
In the study, Kolkata emerged as a highly ethics-conscious city with an ethics index of 76 percent followed by Delhi at 53 percent while Ahmedabad scored the lowest (21 percent). A majority of the respondents in Bangalore did not mind taking unfair credit for subordinates' ideas. In the IT capital, an average of 70 percent of the respondents enjoyed indulging in gossip under the garb of networking. And also nearly 80 percent of respondents did not bat an eyelid when it came to carrying office stationery home. However, Bangaloreans felt that open lines of communication could keep unethical behavior at the workplace in check, as 33.33 percent were unaware of their own company's ethical policy.
The survey gave a more nasty jolt to the so called ethics when it revealed that over 50 percent of employees do not worry too much about fudging expenses reports, lying to take leave or using office resources for personal work like taking print outs or making photocopies.
According to Teamlease, the survey attempted to uncover the 'hidden truth' of Indian workplace ethics. "Companies are today getting better at defining non-negotiables but not interfering in trivia," said Surabhi Mathur, general manager, permanent staffing, TeamLease Services.
The study, commissioned by TeamLease Services, was conducted by research firm Synovate.
Almost 62 percent respondents would use any means to get competitor information, while 63 percent had no problem in doing personal work in office. The survey involved employees from India's top 500 companies across eight cities with a sample size of 401.
The extent of the moral and ethical degradation among today's employees was more exposed when 62 percent of the respondents thought it was normal to bribe someone to get work done.
In the study, Kolkata emerged as a highly ethics-conscious city with an ethics index of 76 percent followed by Delhi at 53 percent while Ahmedabad scored the lowest (21 percent). A majority of the respondents in Bangalore did not mind taking unfair credit for subordinates' ideas. In the IT capital, an average of 70 percent of the respondents enjoyed indulging in gossip under the garb of networking. And also nearly 80 percent of respondents did not bat an eyelid when it came to carrying office stationery home. However, Bangaloreans felt that open lines of communication could keep unethical behavior at the workplace in check, as 33.33 percent were unaware of their own company's ethical policy.
The survey gave a more nasty jolt to the so called ethics when it revealed that over 50 percent of employees do not worry too much about fudging expenses reports, lying to take leave or using office resources for personal work like taking print outs or making photocopies.
According to Teamlease, the survey attempted to uncover the 'hidden truth' of Indian workplace ethics. "Companies are today getting better at defining non-negotiables but not interfering in trivia," said Surabhi Mathur, general manager, permanent staffing, TeamLease Services.
The study, commissioned by TeamLease Services, was conducted by research firm Synovate.
Reader's comments(170)
1: I strongly that Indians are best known for
their diligence and assidious and above
mentioned are true no doubt but very petty
thing which cannot stand with the
contribution made by them at the workplace.
Posted by: Shweta Panthwal - 12:00 AM Aug 26, ' 08
2: Hi All,
That was a interesting scrap published, then wht abt all the surveys so far happen which states S/W ppl spend less time with family, Indian IT profs more productive, are they all a fake.....
Dont try to prove somthing which was not true.....401 wht was the number, i think thtz teamlease employee strength....
Next time when u walk into IT company for any survey be aware..............
That was a interesting scrap published, then wht abt all the surveys so far happen which states S/W ppl spend less time with family, Indian IT profs more productive, are they all a fake.....
Dont try to prove somthing which was not true.....401 wht was the number, i think thtz teamlease employee strength....
Next time when u walk into IT company for any survey be aware..............
Posted by: Raju - 12:00 AM Aug 09, ' 08
3: One suggestion to everyone.... When we are
running our own business and If an employee
does some unethical work how do we
feel?????????? I think everyone has the
answer ..... So stop negative attitude and
consider your work as your own business and
be an enthical human being.
Posted by: Sunil.P - 12:00 AM Aug 08, ' 08
4: This is true but not only for Indians but for
specially IT employees all over
The surevey should have been evenly spread over all industry.
The maximum output also is from indians and if output is faster which means should be paid more which is not the case so employee get tempted to do other work.
The surevey should have been evenly spread over all industry.
The maximum output also is from indians and if output is faster which means should be paid more which is not the case so employee get tempted to do other work.
Posted by: Shreekant Mangoli - 12:00 AM Aug 07, ' 08
5: Why dont any one writes "Indian Employers
Unethical @Always"
Posted by: Moajiz Farooqui - 12:00 AM Aug 07, ' 08
6: the work culture is growing in a different
way. employees are given access to company
network and made to work as and when needed
by menas of laptops and blackberry. so there
is no office time and home time any more and
hence an employee has every right to do some
personal work at office. any ways the current
industry scenario is like anyone under
performing is fired and hence if any employee
has to stay then he has to perform. so doing
personal work dosent affect the organization
Posted by: Ajith - 12:00 AM Aug 07, ' 08
7:
i have worked in the UK for 3 1/2 years and its the same there too..Every employee does personal work during office hours. The title is really Bizzare.
You forgot to mention that Indian Employees are the most productive (cost-effective) ,flexible and quick learning lot , and i see no company making qualms about this..why you?. As per my knowledge , all companies set-up in Hyderabad have got their free land and eminities by paying a bribe ..so why blame the employees who want to do te same for getting their work done..Anyway thats what i think
i have worked in the UK for 3 1/2 years and its the same there too..Every employee does personal work during office hours. The title is really Bizzare.
You forgot to mention that Indian Employees are the most productive (cost-effective) ,flexible and quick learning lot , and i see no company making qualms about this..why you?. As per my knowledge , all companies set-up in Hyderabad have got their free land and eminities by paying a bribe ..so why blame the employees who want to do te same for getting their work done..Anyway thats what i think
Posted by: pradeep - 12:00 AM Aug 06, ' 08
8: Interesting fact-finding. Here are some
comments.
1. This is not something unknown to the companies and they don't mind it. In fact, this is known the entire industry and hence for me, this is reinventing the wheel.
2. I was not very comfortable by the headline of this article, 'Indian' employees unethical @ work. one can draw piles of cases wherein the amount of frauds at workplace is more in other countries. The survey though with an honest intention, misleads the people as if it were comparative.
3. No company can draw conclusion out of this article and formulate policy decisions. Ethics comes from within. When a rule is formed there are always ways and people to break it.
Keep writing!
Regards,
Anand
1. This is not something unknown to the companies and they don't mind it. In fact, this is known the entire industry and hence for me, this is reinventing the wheel.
2. I was not very comfortable by the headline of this article, 'Indian' employees unethical @ work. one can draw piles of cases wherein the amount of frauds at workplace is more in other countries. The survey though with an honest intention, misleads the people as if it were comparative.
3. No company can draw conclusion out of this article and formulate policy decisions. Ethics comes from within. When a rule is formed there are always ways and people to break it.
Keep writing!
Regards,
Anand
Posted by: Anand R - 12:00 AM Aug 06, ' 08
9: Team Lease is supposed be working on
staffing/providing solutions to orgs... am
sure this article itself would be written
during your office hours, never-ever talk
about ethics.
Posted by: Pot Purry - 12:00 AM Aug 06, ' 08
10: Wow thats a nice topic, i support lot of
things and some readers comments also. but
guys are asking profit sharing and OT for
extra work load. Guys tell me onething, r u
in ur seat for 8 hours a day. I never saw a
single person who work for 8 hours dedicated
and most of the people don't know time
management. They know only chit chats, cigar
times, tea times. and all other leisure
times. If you work 8 hours a day you will not
be in need of putting extra time. But u never
do that. Just look at work culture of US. my
managers can be available at any part of the
day even on phone and email. They work 8
hours and finishes that and go spend time
with family.
Just don't blabber that you have huge workload. I know what kind of work we are doing in office. Mostly orkutting, messenering mailing.
Just don't blabber that you have huge workload. I know what kind of work we are doing in office. Mostly orkutting, messenering mailing.
Posted by: Albert - 12:00 AM Aug 05, ' 08
11: Synovate and Teamlease touched a raw nerve. I
took time off ( I am retired after working
for over 40 years) to read the article and
the readers comment. I would not call it
"erosion', it is pure and disasterous
collapse of work ethics. The proud executive
who makes photocopies of his children's text
books in his office and carry it home teaches
them how to steal stationery and usage of
office equipment. I know an executive who
worked with me in an international company
ran up a cell phone bill three times his
salary, The reader's comments shows how hurt
they are when facts are pointed out. If they
have done a survey participating 100%
employees of these companies the result would
have been no different.
Have the guts to accept the truth, even if it is bitter.
Have the guts to accept the truth, even if it is bitter.
Posted by: M.Ramachandran - 12:00 AM Aug 05, ' 08
12: these days there are head cutoff almost in
every major IT firm so why dont you conduct
survey for unethical firm.
Posted by: Bhuwan - 12:00 AM Aug 05, ' 08
13: Let me to spk enough frank
We are working for money ..................if you want a huge loyalty Hire a dog
We are working for money ..................if you want a huge loyalty Hire a dog
Posted by: santhosh Kumar Soma - 12:00 AM Aug 05, ' 08
14: One should not forget that the amount of work
put in by a person is more or less directly
proportional to the pay-package given to him,
has anyone checked whether these so called
Companies who carried out these surveys pay
their employees adequately enough ??? do they
compensate them for the extra hours put in. I
have seen persons who have to wait long hours
at office to complete their workloads and
then even continue after reaching home and if
he gets late the next day he is issued a MEMO
or given a firing/warning is this
ETHICAL???
Many of us have to work 6 days a week or actually if we put in the extra hours of work each day we put in a person actually works for 8/9 days in a week (though a week has only 7 days) do they get extra leave for the additional work - the answer is NO. If a person take some time off to do a bit of his personal work i feel it is absolutely Fine as long as he completes his work on time and has no pendances.
The basic mantra is GIVE THE EMPLOYEE A BIT OF LIBERTY AND MAKE HIM ACCOUNTIBLE . I BELIEVE WE VERY WELL KNOW OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AND CAN JUDGE FOR OURSELVES WHAT ARE OUR PRIORITIES AS FAR AS OFFICIAL WORK AND PERSONAL WORK IS CONCERNED.
Many of us have to work 6 days a week or actually if we put in the extra hours of work each day we put in a person actually works for 8/9 days in a week (though a week has only 7 days) do they get extra leave for the additional work - the answer is NO. If a person take some time off to do a bit of his personal work i feel it is absolutely Fine as long as he completes his work on time and has no pendances.
The basic mantra is GIVE THE EMPLOYEE A BIT OF LIBERTY AND MAKE HIM ACCOUNTIBLE . I BELIEVE WE VERY WELL KNOW OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AND CAN JUDGE FOR OURSELVES WHAT ARE OUR PRIORITIES AS FAR AS OFFICIAL WORK AND PERSONAL WORK IS CONCERNED.
Posted by: Deepak - 12:00 AM Aug 05, ' 08
15: wow inspite of being unethical (as teamlease
says) we are rated as most sought after
employees, in USA and UK too !!!
at the end of the day - even if i have a thought of 'going out on a beach in the evening ' during office hours can be termed as unethical - bcos often we are paid for our brains. often indian are so ethical / workoholics that they take thought of 'work to do tomorrow' home with them. They also work on laptops at home ...
at the end of the day - even if i have a thought of 'going out on a beach in the evening ' during office hours can be termed as unethical - bcos often we are paid for our brains. often indian are so ethical / workoholics that they take thought of 'work to do tomorrow' home with them. They also work on laptops at home ...
Posted by: kb - 12:00 AM Aug 05, ' 08
16: Now let us examine this. The sample size is
401 out of a population of what 5 million
software professionals ? I am sure all of us
have done personal work during work hours
like take a phone call, call a doctor,
plumber etc. Does this negate the weekends
and long hours that software professionals
put in their jobs everyday. Why doesn't
Teamlease conduct a survey on th long hours
worked by software professionals who
sacrifice their personal and family lives to
slog for their organizations?
The salaries that are paid today may be unreasonable and the attrition rates very high. That does not make anyone in India unethical. Does Teamlease even know what the global ethical work standards are ?? May be someone needs to tell them about Enron, Worldcom and global crossing to name a few !!!
The salaries that are paid today may be unreasonable and the attrition rates very high. That does not make anyone in India unethical. Does Teamlease even know what the global ethical work standards are ?? May be someone needs to tell them about Enron, Worldcom and global crossing to name a few !!!
Posted by: Ganesh - 12:00 AM Aug 04, ' 08
17: Who the Hell you are to comment on ethics..
Did you work out your basics before talking
about the Indian People's work ethics.. we
get more work from all the other countries
(US, UK . etc.) because of our technical
ability, Work Culture, adaptability etc..
Think once before your stinking tongue
blabbers again..
You are not the right one to be in ths nation . you really suck man..
I dont have words to describe your ability to describe the ethics.. I think articles written by you and your survey should be banned.
You are not the right one to be in ths nation . you really suck man..
I dont have words to describe your ability to describe the ethics.. I think articles written by you and your survey should be banned.
Posted by: vijay - 12:00 AM Aug 04, ' 08
18: At the time of 12% inflamation companies are
giving 8% to 10% hikes and companies profit
are still more than 50% by doing so cost
cuttings so here is no question of ethics
come.
Posted by: Vikram - 12:00 AM Aug 04, ' 08
19: Companies are unethical towards their
employees, they do not share the Profit the
company has got, do not give OT when
employees stay back and work. Ethics start
from the root of the company there is no
point blaming the branches.
When u talk of stationary being used for personal work, What are the employees working for, give them the share in what profit you make with the clients.
What ethics you are talking about?
When u talk of stationary being used for personal work, What are the employees working for, give them the share in what profit you make with the clients.
What ethics you are talking about?
Posted by: vijay - 12:00 AM Aug 04, ' 08
20: The conclusions that the author has drawn
from the data reflects the pessimistic view
of the author. I do agree that the Public
Sector employees efficiency and commitment to
their work is highly into the negatives but
this is also somewhat attributed to the
unpragmatical approach of the govt and
ministries towards them. The skilled
employees despite their efforts and
brilliancy are not renumerated rightly by the
govt and the problem of reservation - the
comparitively unskilled and unwanted chunk-
has also added to this data. This results in
a saddistic approach of even the better chunk
and they too resort to the unethical
means.
The private sector where each employee spends an average 10+ hours in office can always be allowed to invest some of his time for personal work. I think that is quiet justified. As compared to US where the average working hours is close to 8.5 hrs, I think we still are comfortably placed :).
The private sector where each employee spends an average 10+ hours in office can always be allowed to invest some of his time for personal work. I think that is quiet justified. As compared to US where the average working hours is close to 8.5 hrs, I think we still are comfortably placed :).
Posted by: Karandeep Malik - 12:00 AM Aug 04, ' 08
21: I am surprised on the attitude of the author
towards Indian professionals. First of all a
broad brush approach for anything towards any
community at large is absolutely a wrong
approach. Secondly the author forgot to
remember that he too being an Indian falls in
the same category of behaviour.
I feel pity about the awareness of the author regarding the state of affairs in so called developed countries. I would like to draws the attention of author and readers towards the term "Industrial / competitor espionage" across the world. There are agencies involved in these activities and these agencies are harboured by multinational corporations (and not by Indian organizations). Origin of the terms (Industrial / competitor espionage) is not in India nor are these derived from Indian language. This is unfortunately a global reality not confined to India / Indian organizatinos.
Lastly I would appreciate if author / someone has published a statistically valid comparison indicating behaviour of Indian professions and professionals in developed countries on %age utilization of time on personal (including indulgence in sex with coworkers at work) rather than beating / blaming Indians / Indian organizations without an iota of idea about rest of the world.
I feel pity about the awareness of the author regarding the state of affairs in so called developed countries. I would like to draws the attention of author and readers towards the term "Industrial / competitor espionage" across the world. There are agencies involved in these activities and these agencies are harboured by multinational corporations (and not by Indian organizations). Origin of the terms (Industrial / competitor espionage) is not in India nor are these derived from Indian language. This is unfortunately a global reality not confined to India / Indian organizatinos.
Lastly I would appreciate if author / someone has published a statistically valid comparison indicating behaviour of Indian professions and professionals in developed countries on %age utilization of time on personal (including indulgence in sex with coworkers at work) rather than beating / blaming Indians / Indian organizations without an iota of idea about rest of the world.
Posted by: Amulya Gurtu - 12:00 AM Aug 03, ' 08
22: This survey should be taken as an oppertunity
for improvement by those who are contributing
for poor image.Others not in such habit
should not get offended. What about Govt
offices/Psus?
Posted by: SG Kavimandan - 12:00 AM Aug 03, ' 08
23: this survey is not carried out properly. its
not proper to label the entire workforce as
unethical by just surveying a handful of IT
workers.
Posted by: balu - 12:00 AM Aug 02, ' 08
24: So now to lack of ethics we can add stupidity
and laziness too. Arya - you are not talking
about "Work" culture, you are talking about
"sloughing-off" culture. I am Indian and
have worked 18 years in the US, not just in
"US work culture" as you so cutely put it.
If a bomb falls on the office in the US, you
move somewhere and get the job done. We
don't blame others and external factors.
As for the the stupidos who think this is a small sample size, learn about statistical sampling and sample sizes before you open your mouths and display your ignorance.
As for the the stupidos who think this is a small sample size, learn about statistical sampling and sample sizes before you open your mouths and display your ignorance.
Posted by: AG - 12:00 AM Aug 02, ' 08
25: Hmm! This is just one sided. I agree to what
Arya has written. The work-life balance is
tilting more towards work these days.
One major factor we have not thought abt here is: All the IT sector has decided to keep their office in SEZ areas which is always outside the city. Besides spending 10 hrs in office, does one take into account the minimum 3 hrs travel one has to make to get to the office?
We are working in the IT world which sucks out most from whoever who is a part of it. Customer pressure, stiff dead lines, irrational commitments to the customer and what not have been adding more owes to the working sector!
My experiences come from such backgrounds and therefore makes me strongly believe that we need to redefine the guidelines of "Ethics" in IT companies.
Worth mentioning here, one of my friend recently lost his first unborn baby because he had postponed to take his wife to the doc for a Go-live date! what are we taking abt here? Ethics pah!
One major factor we have not thought abt here is: All the IT sector has decided to keep their office in SEZ areas which is always outside the city. Besides spending 10 hrs in office, does one take into account the minimum 3 hrs travel one has to make to get to the office?
We are working in the IT world which sucks out most from whoever who is a part of it. Customer pressure, stiff dead lines, irrational commitments to the customer and what not have been adding more owes to the working sector!
My experiences come from such backgrounds and therefore makes me strongly believe that we need to redefine the guidelines of "Ethics" in IT companies.
Worth mentioning here, one of my friend recently lost his first unborn baby because he had postponed to take his wife to the doc for a Go-live date! what are we taking abt here? Ethics pah!
Posted by: Karthik - 12:00 AM Aug 02, ' 08
26: Yes Arya absolutely right. First of all
companies dont have ethics they want to take
4 times extra work as they pay and one u said
na the external interrupt the companies will
say shamelely..Regarding leaves no policies,
no laws are of employee side... first we have
to make survey on employers ethics..
Posted by: prashant kulkarni - 12:00 AM Aug 02, ' 08
27: The report is onesided and hence does not
offer a complete picture.
My perspective is that of someone with experience only in US culture and only recently some exposure to Indian work culture.
The parts that are more news worthy is the complete lack of ethics on the part of companies in India. Even European and American companies have double standards when it comes to treatement of Indian workforce. An average Indian tech employee spends a minimum of 12 hours at work and often stays much longer. Often the reason for the employee to stay is not work load, but work culture created by the companies. Managers reward putting in hours and have no understanding for respecting time or work to be done. Companies give no thought to calling employees to work on holidays and days off. If a work day is lost due to external reasons like power failure or local protest, companies very shamelessly expect employees to cancel their weekend plans and 'make-up' for time lost due to no fault of theirs.
When company creates an environment, a culture where personal time is not respected, the company looses all right to expect employees to respect 'work time'. As it is Indian employees put in waay too much time, lot more than necessary and yet do not get the expected producitvity due to complete lack of planning on the part of management.
An article on Indian environment is not complete without this part as well.
My perspective is that of someone with experience only in US culture and only recently some exposure to Indian work culture.
The parts that are more news worthy is the complete lack of ethics on the part of companies in India. Even European and American companies have double standards when it comes to treatement of Indian workforce. An average Indian tech employee spends a minimum of 12 hours at work and often stays much longer. Often the reason for the employee to stay is not work load, but work culture created by the companies. Managers reward putting in hours and have no understanding for respecting time or work to be done. Companies give no thought to calling employees to work on holidays and days off. If a work day is lost due to external reasons like power failure or local protest, companies very shamelessly expect employees to cancel their weekend plans and 'make-up' for time lost due to no fault of theirs.
When company creates an environment, a culture where personal time is not respected, the company looses all right to expect employees to respect 'work time'. As it is Indian employees put in waay too much time, lot more than necessary and yet do not get the expected producitvity due to complete lack of planning on the part of management.
An article on Indian environment is not complete without this part as well.
Posted by: Arya - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
28: I do accept with this survey. Almost all
Indians do this except those people who stick
to the work and ethics, and who are not
interested to improve his savings. For the
sake of something they try to avoid any work
related to his office. Fortunately they are
good for their income improvement. We trust
and we expect, but we can try to mimic that
we are at work by doing somebody's else. I
hope that I am not hurting anybody.
Posted by: K T Raju - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
29: I read the report and trying to figure out if
the sample of 401 people do not have any work
in the top 500 companies in INDIA. If they
had work, i dont know how they found time to
fill out these kinda surveys to publish
unwanted information about employess in IT
industry. In the report there is a mention
that "Today's employees" whereas the survey
was done in mostly IT companies.
Posted by: Senduran - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
30: I read this report and agree on many of the
statements made. Parcticularly "......The
extent of the moral and ethical degradation
among today's employees was more exposed when
62 percent of the respondents thought it was
normal to bribe someone to get work done".
It is amazing to see the multitude of responses that are attacking this article (and I agree that a sample size of 401 is not scientific). Admit it - that sentence is a reflection of the state of mind in India (not just at work). The politicians and the babu's don't budge without that. Everyone else has to pay up to get anything done. And industrial esponiage is being by countries in the post Soviet Union era to get their companies a edge in bidding on project, etc. So, why is it a surprise to see companies extending their arm to win?
I am seeing all the outrage in the comments and feel that is ridiculous to see as many people in denial. As a society we have to get out of the scourage of bribing that is seen necessary - and everyone points to the politicians or cops being the ones who need to change. If you are brave, stop paying someone anything to get things done faster. When everyone stops doing that, we will start seeing a difference.
As for doing personal work on office time, it is human that people will talk some and in this time when both the spuses are working, there is no option that sometimes some person work has to be attended to (after all people are human). Just as they are expected to work late hours when working on a deadline. This is not just in India - happens in all the countries. That is why the employee councies companies have perks to help their employee in the US and other places by having some kind of coincerage service to help with the laundry etc.
It is amazing to see the multitude of responses that are attacking this article (and I agree that a sample size of 401 is not scientific). Admit it - that sentence is a reflection of the state of mind in India (not just at work). The politicians and the babu's don't budge without that. Everyone else has to pay up to get anything done. And industrial esponiage is being by countries in the post Soviet Union era to get their companies a edge in bidding on project, etc. So, why is it a surprise to see companies extending their arm to win?
I am seeing all the outrage in the comments and feel that is ridiculous to see as many people in denial. As a society we have to get out of the scourage of bribing that is seen necessary - and everyone points to the politicians or cops being the ones who need to change. If you are brave, stop paying someone anything to get things done faster. When everyone stops doing that, we will start seeing a difference.
As for doing personal work on office time, it is human that people will talk some and in this time when both the spuses are working, there is no option that sometimes some person work has to be attended to (after all people are human). Just as they are expected to work late hours when working on a deadline. This is not just in India - happens in all the countries. That is why the employee councies companies have perks to help their employee in the US and other places by having some kind of coincerage service to help with the laundry etc.
Posted by: KP - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
31: i think Team lease is equalizing its
employees with all other indian employees. if
their em ployees doing like that then that is
a serious prob with that management. so
better team lease do some constructive work
in their organisation as well as the reserch
work they are doing.
Posted by: srinath - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
32: truth is always bitter! Though I do agree
with the readers that sample size is pretty
low and it can't be made a ground to label
the entire Indian Employees.
It hurts when some organisation to get quick popularity uses such means. They should understand before publishing such half truths on net that this may further pain the already ailing economy of India. We are trying to improve our image in the global arena. Its sucks!
anyways it is a human tendency so it is applicable to all the employees as well as to the employers who fails to understand the employee's need.
www.ideotics.blogspot.com
It hurts when some organisation to get quick popularity uses such means. They should understand before publishing such half truths on net that this may further pain the already ailing economy of India. We are trying to improve our image in the global arena. Its sucks!
anyways it is a human tendency so it is applicable to all the employees as well as to the employers who fails to understand the employee's need.
www.ideotics.blogspot.com
Posted by: ankur - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
33: A sample size which is irrelevant for making
such generalist statements and an issue used
for creating a sensation...It is a known fact
that corruption exists all over the world
including India and India Inc is still a
growing & maturing organization so it has
much to do in terms of work life balance,
quality of life, integrity, ethics though it
is not all that bad as portrayed however it
is very sad to see an improper measure been
done without any real mathematics been used
by Teamlease & Synovate to make such an
absolute statement...Have they given thought
to the reality that evil exists because of
good and professionally there is a distinct
correlation that is required for balance
ensuring continuity of economics....what
matters is how much is sitting in what
segment and have we actually thought of using
AHP to decide...It would be much helpful to
do a refresher for all in Multi Criterion
Decision Quality before conducting such
surveys and sharing any recommendations or
statements as given here or making any
interpretations
Think responsibly and not
blindly or as a herd
.There is a cause for
concern always else why are the thought
leaders even required
.? Points to ponder on
for all of us
Posted by: Sridhar - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
34: Hi frens
at last SI has filled this page with some cheap stuff avial with worst analsys , how Team Lease can judge with the tiny sample analsys ? and how dare to title entire indians were not loyal , whom did they mean either educated or un educated employess , Better Team lease has to check the loyalty level with thier employees and should take resolutions to keep them happy atleast
at last SI has filled this page with some cheap stuff avial with worst analsys , how Team Lease can judge with the tiny sample analsys ? and how dare to title entire indians were not loyal , whom did they mean either educated or un educated employess , Better Team lease has to check the loyalty level with thier employees and should take resolutions to keep them happy atleast
Posted by: soma - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
35: Why no one ever does or publish the survey on
1. How far an Indian worker is willing to walk an extra mile to meet employers demand?
2. Are they happy with salaries?
3. How and Why an Indian culture helps to cop with stress?
4. Why Indian are in demand? Sure it is not that we are cheap and not able to provide best service? It is the case with earlier then sure no employer wants to rish loosing customer with crap CS.
Do some productive work and make India a proud nation.
1. How far an Indian worker is willing to walk an extra mile to meet employers demand?
2. Are they happy with salaries?
3. How and Why an Indian culture helps to cop with stress?
4. Why Indian are in demand? Sure it is not that we are cheap and not able to provide best service? It is the case with earlier then sure no employer wants to rish loosing customer with crap CS.
Do some productive work and make India a proud nation.
Posted by: R Shah - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
36: Teamlease's liscence should be revoked on
charges of conducting absurd surveys with
false results putting it on the net & sending
wrong information around .
Posted by: Hussain buxa - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
37: There is no word to explain that, INDIAN
WORKERS (Educated & Un Educated) are
Workoholiks, in addition they do not ask
their employer why, or how? the work to be
done? there for they are much in demand
abroad than others. At the same time they
neglect their family, Kiths & Kins Social
contacts, responsibilities? As that word
Social is unknown? or not experienced till
they arrive in Foreign countries of Europe or
US. As such the immbalanced Life between
Work & Family to align is very difficult.
Posted by: Kamath - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
38: I am not agree with whatever written over
above. I belive indians have worked much more
better than others. That why the work is
coming to india and we are now becoming more
global. An Indian can work in any condition
and any situation as compared to other
countries.As far as ethics is concerned we
are more ethical not only in work but also in
our routine life also. We have everything
systematic & predecided.
Posted by: satyendra - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
39: Dear Teamlease !
Are you an Indian Company or a foreign recruiter. You have absolutely no idea what Indian workers are capable of and unlike firangis, Indians work for more very long hours and most of us try to help our colleagues in their assignments as well.
I have been to Germany, Geneva and Sweden where our organisation had regional offices, the employess disappear like ghosts once there duty hours are over unlike anywhere and any company , any industry in India.
As far as gathering competitor information is concerned, the subject itself is unethical, that's why the means would obviously be the same.
Next time, do survey on - " Why most Indians succeed anywhere in World"
Are you an Indian Company or a foreign recruiter. You have absolutely no idea what Indian workers are capable of and unlike firangis, Indians work for more very long hours and most of us try to help our colleagues in their assignments as well.
I have been to Germany, Geneva and Sweden where our organisation had regional offices, the employess disappear like ghosts once there duty hours are over unlike anywhere and any company , any industry in India.
As far as gathering competitor information is concerned, the subject itself is unethical, that's why the means would obviously be the same.
Next time, do survey on - " Why most Indians succeed anywhere in World"
Posted by: ARVIND BHAT - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
40: After reading the article, the only thing
came to my mind is that why people keep on
highlighting negative things so much. Why you
guys can't highlight positive things and
inspire people to do good things. Are you
guys really scared of highlighting right
things ??
I know one thing that if you ask people not to something he/she will definitely do it and thats human nature. Instead if you keep on highlighting good things and start ignoring the negative things then that person will definitely gonna change.
You just can't make employees exactly you want them do be, they are human not programmed devices.
The thing you did is just like what media is doing from years and nothing is changed till date. So I guess we need to change the way to handle negative things in an organization.
I know one thing that if you ask people not to something he/she will definitely do it and thats human nature. Instead if you keep on highlighting good things and start ignoring the negative things then that person will definitely gonna change.
You just can't make employees exactly you want them do be, they are human not programmed devices.
The thing you did is just like what media is doing from years and nothing is changed till date. So I guess we need to change the way to handle negative things in an organization.
Posted by: Mayank - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
41: The methodoligy used by many Survey
Organisations is either poor or unscientific
or otherwise - Most of these Statisticcs and
statistical analysis are undependable in many
cases - so also here. It is easy to have
seeping and derogatory reportings by the
Survey Managers without much autheticity.
How is that the Corporates have been doing
thousands of crores of business? How is the
Country of this magniture being run by
lakhs of Government employees? There are
always unethical people accross the globe
depending on various situations. That
doesn't mean, every one is unethical?
Today, as you all know, Indians have been working for the Globe risking their health and family life! Majority of the people have been working more than 48 hours in a week putting their best efforts. Our people are much more capable in many ways - In a nutshel, how can we run a Country like India with a population of over 110 crores and with a magniture of issues, if we the majority are inefficient, unethical, corrupt and what not as per the Survey! one should use common sense before making any comments
As some one was pointing out, our News Papers contain all the negative news on the front page and positive ones in one of the corners, which cannot be noticed.
LET US HAVE POSITIVE TALK / LET US CONDUCT PROPER SURVEY / LET US MAKE GOOD ANALYSIS OF THE SURVEY AND REPORT POSITIVELY
Yes; I am not sayting that there are no issues - but, when compared to the level of development and magnitude of the issues, certain negative points would always be there - in percentile, they might definitely be very very negligible
Today, as you all know, Indians have been working for the Globe risking their health and family life! Majority of the people have been working more than 48 hours in a week putting their best efforts. Our people are much more capable in many ways - In a nutshel, how can we run a Country like India with a population of over 110 crores and with a magniture of issues, if we the majority are inefficient, unethical, corrupt and what not as per the Survey! one should use common sense before making any comments
As some one was pointing out, our News Papers contain all the negative news on the front page and positive ones in one of the corners, which cannot be noticed.
LET US HAVE POSITIVE TALK / LET US CONDUCT PROPER SURVEY / LET US MAKE GOOD ANALYSIS OF THE SURVEY AND REPORT POSITIVELY
Yes; I am not sayting that there are no issues - but, when compared to the level of development and magnitude of the issues, certain negative points would always be there - in percentile, they might definitely be very very negligible
Posted by: Gopala Krishna, V - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
42: Thanks for such a wonderful survey report.
Now, we have changed our strategy for
recruiting professionals. We have decided to
lay off total staff, plan a new strategy of
hiring employees from
Kolkata..............
"Kolkata emerged as a highly ethics-conscious city with an ethics index of 76 percent"
Just Joking Dont take seriously ..
But as matter of fact, we request you to elaborate some information about team who has done this survey; if they are from Kolkata we should put 76% (AAA) faith in your report or if this is done by team from Ahmedabad 21% (D) we should not believe on report
"Kolkata emerged as a highly ethics-conscious city with an ethics index of 76 percent"
Just Joking Dont take seriously ..
But as matter of fact, we request you to elaborate some information about team who has done this survey; if they are from Kolkata we should put 76% (AAA) faith in your report or if this is done by team from Ahmedabad 21% (D) we should not believe on report
Posted by: Labhesh Bhamwani - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
43: Absolutely disgusting. Such surveys results
should be legally challenged and ridiculed in
public.
Posted by: abhinav - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
44: It is true that out of 100 employees in an
organisation, 60-70 are found to be
un-ethical. Politicians of this country made
our society like that. But blaming the system
will not make India Shine. Let us initiate to
re-form and re-build a sincere helathy
atmosphere. We must protest unethical works
in public, to humiliate the person. Can one
dare to do that ? If yes India will
definitely SHINE.
Posted by: Kaushik Kumar - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
45: The Teamlease should have taken enough care
before applying the headline to whole of
Indian employees. I accept reports based on
scientific reaserch. But I don't understand
their pinch. The teamlease should have done
the research with more no. of respondents and
considering work cultures and environments of
the companies. Why will any employer give
that kind of FREEDOM to his employees? There
are situations in some companies where
employees do not go homes even after 24 hrs
in some cases 48 hrs. Enitre lifetime gets
sacrified for work. They do not have time to
go out to do their personal work during
office hours. ANd after the office there's
nothin open in India. If you look forward to
a weekend; sometimes you are stayed back at
office or if go out on a Sunday to do any
personal work like bank transactions, bill
paymmnets, insurance, post office, courier,
almot everything is closed. So when do Indian
employees get time to do their psersonal
work. Private sector employees specially,
face many of such problems.
Come on Teamlease. Beg for apologies from the Indain Employee Community. Your headline is ruthless and written with stupidity.
Come on Teamlease. Beg for apologies from the Indain Employee Community. Your headline is ruthless and written with stupidity.
Posted by: ravi - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
46: The Teamlease should have taken enough care
before applying the headline to whole of
Indian employees. I accept reports based on
scientific reaserch. But I don't understand
their pinch. The teamlease should have done
the research with more no. of respondents and
considering work cultures and environments of
the companies. Why will any employer give
that kind of FREEDOM to his employees? There
are situations in some companies where
employees do not go homes even after 24 hrs
in some cases 48 hrs. Enitre lifetime gets
sacrified for work. They do not have time to
go out to do their personal work during
office hours. ANd after the office there's
nothin open in India. If you look forward to
a weekend; sometimes you are stayed back at
office or if go out on a Sunday to do any
personal work like bank transactions, bill
paymmnets, insurance, post office, courier,
almot everything is closed. So when do Indian
employees get time to do their psersonal
work. Private sector employees specially,
face many of such problems.
Come on Teamlease. Beg for apologies from the Indain Employee Community. Your headline is ruthless and written with stupidity.
Come on Teamlease. Beg for apologies from the Indain Employee Community. Your headline is ruthless and written with stupidity.
Posted by: ravi - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
47: This is a total crap. The sample for the
survey is too less to make a comment like
Indians are unethical. The article is a crime
committed against Indians. The thoughts are
biased and preoccupied. Hope the author comes
up with better logical topics.
Posted by: Balu - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
48: The way it is portraited the ethics of the
indian professionals during their work is
somthing unbelievable & untrustful.During
their work permit in onsite ,indians are
indenfied for a
hardwork,degnity&decilpline.we are given
respect in the world for the culture &
traditions we follow in india.In teamlease
come to a conclusions with a sample size of
401,it mean to say they have given
unpatriotic comment on indians. Better to
withdraw this article as it is very idiotic &
wasteless.....i strongly agree vani's
commet,will join hands in raising this issue
.
Posted by: Bhuvaneswari - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
49: What is this ? publishing a survey with a
sample size of 400 representing a workforce
of millions !
For one, what motivated TeamLease to commission such an absurd survey ?
Maybe an increase in unethical behaviour by their own employees I guess.
Two, how did Synovate accept to do such a survey ?
Cash straped I guess. No wonder they were able to interview only 400.
Please delete this article at once. For your sake, if the general working community get the wind of it you guys might as well pull the shutters on your business.
Team lease and Synovate - The Indian workforce has proven what it is capable and what it's worth of too.
For one, what motivated TeamLease to commission such an absurd survey ?
Maybe an increase in unethical behaviour by their own employees I guess.
Two, how did Synovate accept to do such a survey ?
Cash straped I guess. No wonder they were able to interview only 400.
Please delete this article at once. For your sake, if the general working community get the wind of it you guys might as well pull the shutters on your business.
Team lease and Synovate - The Indian workforce has proven what it is capable and what it's worth of too.
Posted by: Arjun - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
50: Please read the sentence in my previous
comment as " Let the Survey be made on all
the nationals"
Thanks
SR Raju,Dubai
Thanks
SR Raju,Dubai
Posted by: SR Raju - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
51: Generalizing at this level and saying Indian
are unethical is really absurd... the survey
report itself may be strongly biased to get
such nos and to put this with a top level
headline that Indians are unethical is even
more stupid and ridiculous. Whatever little
respect i had for SiliconIndia has also
gone...
Posted by: Vinod Krishnan - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
52: I do not agree on the survey report. I have
been working with mltinationals since 2000.
Indians are sincerly works for the company
than other nationals. Taking printouts,
photocopies is seen more in case of other
nationals. Percentage of such usage is very
very less by Indians.
I have seen other nationals using the company's costly assets as their own and never hesitate to put their own cost also to the company. How come this survey reports like this. Let the Survey be made against the all the natinals working as an expats in India or esle where to know the facts. Every one should condemn this report and Government should be notified prior to publish this. Strong action recommended against this.
Dear all Please do not take this report as true..
SR Raju, Dubai.
I have seen other nationals using the company's costly assets as their own and never hesitate to put their own cost also to the company. How come this survey reports like this. Let the Survey be made against the all the natinals working as an expats in India or esle where to know the facts. Every one should condemn this report and Government should be notified prior to publish this. Strong action recommended against this.
Dear all Please do not take this report as true..
SR Raju, Dubai.
Posted by: SR Raju - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
53: Lets admit few points here before going into
the study,
1. The IT Industry - if properly understood does not allow any personal thing to happen at workplace (at least the ones which are serving the banking/finance and company that has sensitivity of data)
2. The kind of work pressure it puts on employees is much more higher and the the time that a proper employee send is 40 hrs a week, thanks for being IT firms out of reach abt 10 hrs a week on travel, where do you get a chance to do your own work.
3. It is the system which make the people commit any flaw, or resort to a unhealthy alternative. About Ideas being copied- IT is all about Team Work and team can be a one team so whole credit goes to its leader / the team and on a certain point it shall percolates down the real performers.
Coming to the Report of Team LEase:
Few questions:
1. Did you conduct this survey internally and throw out such people?
2. If your company is so big to talk about a county of billion people, why is this survey had 400 responses?
3. Did you get legal clearances to go to public?
My Feelings,
1. My appeal to readers is, write letters to the MD of Teamlease about this absurd report, making / degrading India's image on world map. [I am first one to accept any report is filed with scientific reaserch and more meaningful work ]
2. Make them understand the pinch of this report.
3. The teamlease must have all these 400 wolfs, let the organizations who employed Teamlease services understand how bad workers they are and detach being their clients - bloody hell we have more respected organizations.
1. The IT Industry - if properly understood does not allow any personal thing to happen at workplace (at least the ones which are serving the banking/finance and company that has sensitivity of data)
2. The kind of work pressure it puts on employees is much more higher and the the time that a proper employee send is 40 hrs a week, thanks for being IT firms out of reach abt 10 hrs a week on travel, where do you get a chance to do your own work.
3. It is the system which make the people commit any flaw, or resort to a unhealthy alternative. About Ideas being copied- IT is all about Team Work and team can be a one team so whole credit goes to its leader / the team and on a certain point it shall percolates down the real performers.
Coming to the Report of Team LEase:
Few questions:
1. Did you conduct this survey internally and throw out such people?
2. If your company is so big to talk about a county of billion people, why is this survey had 400 responses?
3. Did you get legal clearances to go to public?
My Feelings,
1. My appeal to readers is, write letters to the MD of Teamlease about this absurd report, making / degrading India's image on world map. [I am first one to accept any report is filed with scientific reaserch and more meaningful work ]
2. Make them understand the pinch of this report.
3. The teamlease must have all these 400 wolfs, let the organizations who employed Teamlease services understand how bad workers they are and detach being their clients - bloody hell we have more respected organizations.
Posted by: SP - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
55: This is a totally absurd, bull shit and
baseless article. I even doubt the company
which conducted this (ShiTeamLoose). They
might have filled in the sample themselves in
the pretext of IT companies and tried to get
cheap publicity.
Another asshole to mention is Mr Joseph's Moore, who has written a bullshit comment about Indian as part of this response. The fat american asshole is out of his mind and demonstrating his and his countries ethics in the right sense.
-Ashish
Another asshole to mention is Mr Joseph's Moore, who has written a bullshit comment about Indian as part of this response. The fat american asshole is out of his mind and demonstrating his and his countries ethics in the right sense.
-Ashish
Posted by: Ashish - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
56: The report is totally absurd. Worldwide
Indian work force is preferred not only for
low wages but also they are more effective
and ethical. This is condemnable and
tealease need to apologize for this report.
Posted by: Baskaran - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
57: Coming to conclution just by taking 400
responds out of 2 million peoples who works
in India In IT and ITES( that comes to 0.02 %
of total sampls) is truly unfair, but anyways
nice effort plz increas the sample size and
demographical spread next time.
Tnx
Tnx
Posted by: AbbY - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
58: Teamlease itself proved that they r unethical
providing such nonsense survey details...
Posted by: Subhashini - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
59: First of all the punchline itself is rude and
unprofessional.....
How can Teamlease call whole Indian workforce Unethical? wherein Teamlease calims that they have around 80,000 employees on their payrolls working accross India, but conducting Survey on only a negligable size.
i strongly suggest Teamlease to apologize publicly for this false report.
How can Teamlease call whole Indian workforce Unethical? wherein Teamlease calims that they have around 80,000 employees on their payrolls working accross India, but conducting Survey on only a negligable size.
i strongly suggest Teamlease to apologize publicly for this false report.
Posted by: Abdul - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
60: This must be a joke! A staffing company, on
the basis of sample size of just 400 making a
pronouncement about the ethicality of Indian
employees and Silicone India publishing it,
without a comment has to be a cruel joke!
Kindly show us the ranking of Indian employees across the industrial economies of the world before publishing such less than professional surveys. Further kindly also show one country, one society that is 100% ethical!
The market place, especially in the present times of LPG is an ongoing war for survival and growth. If you are not one up, you are one down, they say! And have we forgotten that everything is fair in love and war? When countries do it it is called espionage, intelligence and by such other fancy but if Indians do it in a market place, they are charged of unethicality (mind you, the dindings of the survey are one thing and the inferences/comments ar quite another!)
As a matter of fact, India is amongst the fines countries recognised for its fair dealings, competence as also for cooperation in all fields of human interactions-even across the national frontiers. We ourselves do not claim that we are 100% ethical. In such a huge mass of people, there may have been infringements, but then wich other society has a cleaner record.
My appeal to both the Teamlease and to Silicone India is that, in future we would like to see more professional material on the board.
Kindly show us the ranking of Indian employees across the industrial economies of the world before publishing such less than professional surveys. Further kindly also show one country, one society that is 100% ethical!
The market place, especially in the present times of LPG is an ongoing war for survival and growth. If you are not one up, you are one down, they say! And have we forgotten that everything is fair in love and war? When countries do it it is called espionage, intelligence and by such other fancy but if Indians do it in a market place, they are charged of unethicality (mind you, the dindings of the survey are one thing and the inferences/comments ar quite another!)
As a matter of fact, India is amongst the fines countries recognised for its fair dealings, competence as also for cooperation in all fields of human interactions-even across the national frontiers. We ourselves do not claim that we are 100% ethical. In such a huge mass of people, there may have been infringements, but then wich other society has a cleaner record.
My appeal to both the Teamlease and to Silicone India is that, in future we would like to see more professional material on the board.
Posted by: Kishor Bhave - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
61: I feel this survey is ridiculous. Team Lease
should publish the questionnaire used for the
survey and come up with an explanation.
Silicon India should withdraw this biased article immediately and appreciate the sentiments and hard work of thousands of Indian employees.
An appeal to all IT fraternity Let us boycott Team Lease in every possible way, unless they come with a reasonable explanation and show their willingness to post an apology in all leading News papers in India.
- Sujith
Silicon India should withdraw this biased article immediately and appreciate the sentiments and hard work of thousands of Indian employees.
An appeal to all IT fraternity Let us boycott Team Lease in every possible way, unless they come with a reasonable explanation and show their willingness to post an apology in all leading News papers in India.
- Sujith
Posted by: Sujith Nair - 12:00 AM Aug 01, ' 08
62: Truely unfair article. You cannot measure
based on 400 samples the Indians who brought
glory to the world. Let us think positively.
If we are working long hours and have no
time to go to bank, post office, telephone
exchange etc. to pay our utility bills and
this can be done while sitting in the Office
in few minutes, I do not see anything wrong
in it. More than I have my Indian
Colleagues, we work during our lunch hours
being responsible and result oriented to
achieve our common objective. Now you decide
based on the comments you receive on this
article, you will come to know the true
story. I think your article made Indians to
express. We Indians normally do not
express... that is the reason you got some
masala to write in your article.
Posted by: Sudhakar, Dubai - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
63: Shocked reading this article as this is
giving a very negative impact on the Indian
workplace ethics for which Indians are known
for. It is baseless as the sample size used
is very minimal and the generalization is not
acceptable. Teamlease should be dare to write
such things and silicon India to publish the
same. I strongly agree with the below
comments made on this article and as Vani
said we will join our hands in protecting our
values and ethics.
Posted by: Suma - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
64: Who is this asshole writing about Indian
workforce and giving such a blemishing title
based on sample size of 400 people.
Does he know about the ground realties?
Whats his company's workforce and what if just talking to one person and publishing something like this about his company and branding his company is such..and ...such...
ridiculous.
He must be made to serve in siachin glacier area and ask him to come back write the same article / conduct the survey.
Brainless buggers.
Must be thrashed in public glare.
Does he know about the ground realties?
Whats his company's workforce and what if just talking to one person and publishing something like this about his company and branding his company is such..and ...such...
ridiculous.
He must be made to serve in siachin glacier area and ask him to come back write the same article / conduct the survey.
Brainless buggers.
Must be thrashed in public glare.
Posted by: Mrutyunjaya - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
65: This article is ridiculous and hurts
sentiments of thousands of professionals
doing a good job in contributing to the
growth of the organisation and also Indian
economy. I strongly agree with Vani's
comments and definitely join our hands incase
this article is not withdrawn immediately.
Posted by: Sushma - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
66: This is known to everybody, but that about
only 20% work hard and face all sorts of
hardships, no timely promotions, no proper
CRs, but people with silver spoon get away
and also get every thing in time or much
before.
Posted by: D.Bheemeswar - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
67: Well the way the survey has been conducted
and the sample space used is completely a
substandard way of doing.
However this issue does exist to certain extent and the reasons could be many as all readers have diligently listed them out in their comments.
Ethics is an individual's perspective of conducting himself /herself and shouldn't be compared with people from the other part of the world.Indians are known for their strong ethics and probably a statement like this is highly damaging.With too much of globalisation we are ofcourse losing ourselves...and this is alarming because some day this article ---being termed as unpatriotic..blah blah could be proved!!!!!
Making sweeping statements like this is BAD from teamlease !!!
However this issue does exist to certain extent and the reasons could be many as all readers have diligently listed them out in their comments.
Ethics is an individual's perspective of conducting himself /herself and shouldn't be compared with people from the other part of the world.Indians are known for their strong ethics and probably a statement like this is highly damaging.With too much of globalisation we are ofcourse losing ourselves...and this is alarming because some day this article ---being termed as unpatriotic..blah blah could be proved!!!!!
Making sweeping statements like this is BAD from teamlease !!!
Posted by: smitha - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
68: This survey findings are baseless and a cheap
publicity stunt to get popularity. It is
high time Teamlease realises its blunder to
publish this article in a popular magazine
like Silicon India. This article was read by
most of the HR Forum members and my
colleagues and it is surprising that sanctity
of the facts are not being investigated or
scrutinized before being published on the
net. It has hurt sentiments of Indian
professionals because of whom India regained
its lost image in the Global map. These
Indian professionals are known for their
hardwork, commitment and who have scaled up
to meet the expectations of the International
standards. Also, all Companies adhered to
Values and Ethics monitored by a fool proof
system as defined by the Company's policy on
Values and Ethics and stringent actions are
taken against errant employees. If Teamlease
fails to apologise in bringing up this
article, entire fraternity will join hands in
raising this issue with the National Human
Rights Commission. It is a strong message to
Silicon India to withdraw this article
immediately and ensure Teamlease comes out an
open apology letter in all the leading
magazines of India.
Posted by: vani - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
69: Sample Size is tooo low to comment on India
Un ethical practices. It should be atlest in
Thousands.
Posted by: Srinivas - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
71: I dont believe that this is 100% true because
this sample size is too low that is conducted
a among different cities. How can we say most
of the Indian employees are unethical. These
interviews were conducted mainly conducted
among only IT companies. The IT companies
are giving tight schedule to their employees
by reason of that tight schedule most of the
employees are adjusting their personal needs
during working time. In my opinion this
statement is 100% wrong
Posted by: asgarsiraj - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
72: This is what happens when every next company
starts counducting surveys..hey.. teamlease r
u gone nuts ..?how can u say the whole
countrys workforce is unethical..? The title
of this article so rediculous..
Posted by: raghav - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
73: Surabhi Mathur has succeeded in knowing how
her company is working on all the parameters
mentioned in her article.
1. IF THEY HAVE SELECTED JUST "401" EMPLOYEES FROM 8 CITIES FROM THE "TOP 500" COMPANIES, THE SURVEY IS NOT EVEN 1% TRUE! (AND THEY TALK OF PERCENTAGES AND ARE BOLD ENOUGH TO BRAND A "CITY" ON ITS ETHICS AND THE "IT INDUSTRY" WHEREAS THEY HAVE NOT EVEN COVERED ONE COMPANY IN FULL!)
2. IF THIS SURVEY IS CONDUCTED DURING THE OFFICE HOURS OF THOSE SO CALLED "IT" COMPANIES, THEN ONE CAN UNDERSTAND THE STANDARD OF THE ORGANIZATIONS SELECTED FOR THIS SURVEY! (DID Surabhi Mathur BRIBE THE IT COMPANY TO GET THEIR TIME?)
3. THEY SHOULD HAVE ASKED HOW MANY OF THOSE 'IT' PEOPLE NEGLECT PERSONAL WORK/FAMILY AND GO TO OFFICE ON WEEKENDS AND HOW LONG THEY WORK DURING A WEEK...
1. IF THEY HAVE SELECTED JUST "401" EMPLOYEES FROM 8 CITIES FROM THE "TOP 500" COMPANIES, THE SURVEY IS NOT EVEN 1% TRUE! (AND THEY TALK OF PERCENTAGES AND ARE BOLD ENOUGH TO BRAND A "CITY" ON ITS ETHICS AND THE "IT INDUSTRY" WHEREAS THEY HAVE NOT EVEN COVERED ONE COMPANY IN FULL!)
2. IF THIS SURVEY IS CONDUCTED DURING THE OFFICE HOURS OF THOSE SO CALLED "IT" COMPANIES, THEN ONE CAN UNDERSTAND THE STANDARD OF THE ORGANIZATIONS SELECTED FOR THIS SURVEY! (DID Surabhi Mathur BRIBE THE IT COMPANY TO GET THEIR TIME?)
3. THEY SHOULD HAVE ASKED HOW MANY OF THOSE 'IT' PEOPLE NEGLECT PERSONAL WORK/FAMILY AND GO TO OFFICE ON WEEKENDS AND HOW LONG THEY WORK DURING A WEEK...
Posted by: Dennis Brown - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
74: I think the persons are just learning how to
do ASurvey /Studies. With the sample size of
400 persons they are writing the character of
2nd Biggest country in world. I can't
imaging it as i am having more than 6 year
exp in research. IInd thing is that the
should have clearly worked out the hypothesis
and sample size from some experts. 3rd thing
is can they get any favorable results against
this from anywhere in the world. 4th thing is
had they filled the questionaire themselve
and what was the result. They had just gone
for pilot survey and put this Unethical
results against their country witout thinking
of the reputation and integrity of India. I
think this type of reporters should be
penalised so that they can be better
responsible in future.
Posted by: A S Rana - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
75: To TeamLease/Synovate/Silicon India folks,
I worked outside India for about 10 years and am back in India now. I think all countries have all kinds of people. Publish this survey on the net and get global responses if you can. Make sure you categorize the responses based on participant's age group. You will be surprised. What is the point in taking a sample of 400 people from one country and writing this kind of article. Please be more responsible. Even if you find the negative news, you do not have to spread it. There is so much positive news as well. Why not you spread that? Please spread the positive energy if you can or keep quite. I think people who contributed to publish this kind of article are more unethical than the participants.
I worked outside India for about 10 years and am back in India now. I think all countries have all kinds of people. Publish this survey on the net and get global responses if you can. Make sure you categorize the responses based on participant's age group. You will be surprised. What is the point in taking a sample of 400 people from one country and writing this kind of article. Please be more responsible. Even if you find the negative news, you do not have to spread it. There is so much positive news as well. Why not you spread that? Please spread the positive energy if you can or keep quite. I think people who contributed to publish this kind of article are more unethical than the participants.
Posted by: Ramana - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
76: REDICULOUS TO WRITE BOUT INDIANS ONLY, INDIA
IS KNOWN FOR ITS PEOPLE MAJORLY. IF SOME
PORTION IS TRUE, ITS TRUE FOR THE WHOLE
WORLD. MR. WRITER............DO MISGUIDE THE
FOREIGNER BY WRITING SUCH ARTICLES.
Posted by: Kanchan - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
77: Unethical behavaior has joint the ranks of
fraud and corruption as the new culture of
the 21st century. The reason is two-fold
which are the extent of greed and lack of any
enforcment of penalties, standards by those
in authority including the legal professiona
and judiciary who themselves have adopted
this new culture.
This culture came from the west where success is measured by accumulated wealth and not how it was accumulated. The word 'legal' is used where the method of accumulation would be immoral.
It is sad that the great civilizations of India, China and Middle East have succembed to the values of the west where the locals were still living in the jungles compared to the residents of the thousands of years old civilizations.
It is long overdue the old civilizations re-assert themselves and take the lead in good values instead of following the poor values of the west.
1.8.08
This culture came from the west where success is measured by accumulated wealth and not how it was accumulated. The word 'legal' is used where the method of accumulation would be immoral.
It is sad that the great civilizations of India, China and Middle East have succembed to the values of the west where the locals were still living in the jungles compared to the residents of the thousands of years old civilizations.
It is long overdue the old civilizations re-assert themselves and take the lead in good values instead of following the poor values of the west.
1.8.08
Posted by: Gursharan Singh - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
78: If we all pull together we should file a
defamation case against that moron
Teamlease.
Posted by: Arun - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
79: What is said is not uncommon. It is there
everywhere;not just in IT industry alone.
Therefore we can not blame people in IT.
Fudging account is universal. If you allow
some one take away what is his ,fudging will
not happen.
Talking Indians are unethical is unwarranted and unpatriotic comment.Probably aimed to get publicity for Team Lease through senationalism.
Indians are the best skilled, most intelligent workers in the world.
People are our strength. We are growing inspite of bad politics,because of the culture ingrained in us.
Hail India.
Iyer R.N,Consultant/coounsellor,Chennai. r_n_iyer @yahoo.com
Talking Indians are unethical is unwarranted and unpatriotic comment.Probably aimed to get publicity for Team Lease through senationalism.
Indians are the best skilled, most intelligent workers in the world.
People are our strength. We are growing inspite of bad politics,because of the culture ingrained in us.
Hail India.
Iyer R.N,Consultant/coounsellor,Chennai. r_n_iyer @yahoo.com
Posted by: R N Iyer - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
80: This is very bad to hear that Indian
employees are unethical at work.
Trainings and strict rules should frame to employees and make them follow as per instructed. Because it should affect the people who are sinceire to their jobs.
Trainings and strict rules should frame to employees and make them follow as per instructed. Because it should affect the people who are sinceire to their jobs.
Posted by: Supratik J - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
81: I am enjoying this discussion.
Just for academic reasons,how many of these long comments were written during office hours?
Ken
Just for academic reasons,how many of these long comments were written during office hours?
Ken
Posted by: ken - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
82: This article is bollox. The people who have
created this articles are nuts. They should
how the employees work in other countries.
They dont know how indian put in extra hours
at the work all the time. They should also
know that this happens everywhere and I
should say it happens very less in india.
Seems like Teamlease or whatever this company
should work on better surveys and not this
nonsensical surveys which make no sense at
all. Teamplease looks to be a immature
company to come up with these kind of dumb
surveys. You can not become a big company
overnight by doing these superficial surveys.
Also , Siliconindia website/magazine should
be more intelligent before publishing these
idiotic articles by these bogus companies. I
am pretty sure if they publish these articles
about another countries , they will get sued.
Peace out.
Posted by: PURU - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
83: Unethics by few affect the genuine crowd too.
Eg. is the fake resumes . Atleast in India ,
most companies does a through background
check and most fakers get filtered out. But
in US, Indians use fake experiences which is
affectign the genuinie crowd and usually
people get in without the fear of such
thorough background checks. The situation
here now is that most employers look at
Indians as fake especially in the midlevel
career.
Posted by: Comment - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
84: Not a good article indeed.. I don't do
anything that my company says unethical. you
rephrase the questions in survey and get the
response from the same 401 people and see the
responses. unethical typically means that you
are working against the interest of your
employer.. in my opinion no indian will be
unethical.. atleast the people who are
working for salary..
for example if your question is 1) do you do personal work during office hours? rephrase it to 1) will you be doing personal work when you have official work to do in office hours.? the response will show how ethical Indians are..
Publish a survey with such a modified questionare.. it is not unethical to use the ideal time available during office hours for personal work.. it is unethical to do personal work when your offical work waits for you. I hope you team agree with me.. a survey will give the desired result only if the questions are correct.. if the questions are too vague and not specific the desired result will not come.
the same thing happened for this survey too... which gave a wrong output.. before taking the survey also have the list prepared of what the company thinks unethical and then survey their employees... what you define unethical may not be unethical for the company in which the person works..
for example if your question is 1) do you do personal work during office hours? rephrase it to 1) will you be doing personal work when you have official work to do in office hours.? the response will show how ethical Indians are..
Publish a survey with such a modified questionare.. it is not unethical to use the ideal time available during office hours for personal work.. it is unethical to do personal work when your offical work waits for you. I hope you team agree with me.. a survey will give the desired result only if the questions are correct.. if the questions are too vague and not specific the desired result will not come.
the same thing happened for this survey too... which gave a wrong output.. before taking the survey also have the list prepared of what the company thinks unethical and then survey their employees... what you define unethical may not be unethical for the company in which the person works..
Posted by: Kumaran - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
85: I think this is really issue of concern when
it comes to indian's @ work they can not only
beat anyone else but also surpass
expectation's.. If i would have worked in any
IT corp. then I would have revolted by
boycotting by requesting all the IT workers
to stop work for 2 day's and incur Billion $
losses to counterparts.. I think innt ka
jawab pathar se hi dena chaiye. then lets
talk about ethics after losses.
Posted by: ajay - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
86: I agree with the comment from nemani. It is
so bad to see such a comment about the whole
Indian IT industry with 400 people survey.
Better go to the granular level and check
what type of people are giving these
comments(personal comments). People are so
intelligent to fill their website with
something that is 100% not true. US is
superpower today, because they always talk
about best things they do. Come to US and
check with the people here. Better apologize
to the entire Indian IT industry and pull out
this article.
Posted by: avanthaan - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
87: 'Teamlease' got a very good publicity. Look
at the count of people who have shouted on
this company. The GM, Ms.Surabhi Mathur is
successful in cheap advertisement. Good luck
!!!
Posted by: Venkat - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
88: This article is definitely informative, not
detailed though. Half information is more
dangerous than no information at all. Also,
the writers of this article don't sound
racist, since it is a survey solely on we
Indians' workplace ethics. However, on one
hand it highlights the workplace ethics we
Indians follow, on the other hand it leaves
out a similar survey on its counterparts
elsewhere in the world.
Also, would like to clarify some of Mr Joseph's Moore's misconceptions about ethics and productivity about Indians. Mr Moore : Productivity originated as an idea from the U.S. (as far as IT industry is concerned) and got defined in India. Why do you think SLA's are signed with 40-50% higher targets of efficiency / productivity between U.S. companies and Indian service providers ? Only because Indian employees deliver. I beg to differ on your views about Indians wasting their work hours on cofee and smoke breaks. Although Indian workplace ethics seem to have taken a back seat, all you racists out there must realize (it's high time) that we deliver 40-50% more and better than our counterparts elsewhere, be it a deluge, bomb blasts or even an earthquake. Mr Moore : you Americans would have shat your load if you were required to work under the same conditions.
Also, would like to clarify some of Mr Joseph's Moore's misconceptions about ethics and productivity about Indians. Mr Moore : Productivity originated as an idea from the U.S. (as far as IT industry is concerned) and got defined in India. Why do you think SLA's are signed with 40-50% higher targets of efficiency / productivity between U.S. companies and Indian service providers ? Only because Indian employees deliver. I beg to differ on your views about Indians wasting their work hours on cofee and smoke breaks. Although Indian workplace ethics seem to have taken a back seat, all you racists out there must realize (it's high time) that we deliver 40-50% more and better than our counterparts elsewhere, be it a deluge, bomb blasts or even an earthquake. Mr Moore : you Americans would have shat your load if you were required to work under the same conditions.
Posted by: vishal - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
89: While I agree to the article, I disagree to
the fact that it is happenning only in India.
I have witnessed and can prove that a similar
survey is taken in US the percentages will be
higher. It is just how easily Indians are
stupid in fooling themselves, while other
countrymen are smart in not doing such
surveys and even if they do not publishing in
their own country.
- Nemani
- Nemani
Posted by: Nemani - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
90: I have been working in multinationals in
India and overseas. I had and have
opportunity to work with many expats in
India, and I have been shocked with how
unethical all these British, Amarican and
south african expats while working in India
have been as per the definitions given above.
All of them do all their personal work
during office time, and not only that, but
make teir subordinates do their personal work
in office time. What nonsense is this
article saying. Perhaps written by blind
people, giving one sided view. Outside India,
I have personally seen people doing all that
easily what is termed unethicla in the
article. Americans use any method to get
competator information, however unethical.
The article is totally biased, and one sided,
written by mentally sick people.
Raj
Raj
Posted by: Raj Nath - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
91: I totally agree with Vidhya's comments below.
Posted by: Personal Comment - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
92: I don't any arguments with our(Indans)
ethics, we know the limit and don't try to
post article like this, no body is here to
compare to the indian employee.
Posted by: Thyagarajan - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
93: I think all of you are over reacting and over
accusing ! I find this article no way
unpatriotic or sub-standard. Most of these
findings (survey wise) are only a sampling of
the questions fed to the participants. I how
ever agree with the Survey myself as I have
experienced those situations in India and of
course in the Bay Area as well with in the
same community. I am not saying it doesn't
happen or other geographies or communities
are immune to these issues. They are only
getting noticed because of the "visibility"
India has now .
Posted by: Personal Comment - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
94: WOW ! When I considered commenting on this
article I was not expecting such a large and
unanimous response from the Indian community;
but then our fame to grlory is not
self-critisism.
1. I agree about the sample size being rather poorly chosen
2. I disagree that pointing out our faults is unpatriotic - that is the same rhetoric that got the US into its current mess.
3. Sadly, on an average, Indian's do have compromized ethics - yes. However the examples chosen in this article reflect the immaturity and inexperience of the author. For instance, doing some personal work during work hours (esp. when they are not the fixed 8 hrs days) is common everywhere.
4. The more important things are really being eithical about your work (a standard which I see deteriorating here in the bay area - Inidan and otherwise), about giving credit where it belongs, about not stealing someone elses ideas and about representing data accurately.
5. Personally I think more Indians are corrupt at an individual level and the US for instance is more corrupt at the corporate level - a larger percentage of the people are not curropt at the individual level.
6. One can go into great lengths about the reasons behind the assertion of the article - my comments are just about some of the statements masquerading as facts.
1. I agree about the sample size being rather poorly chosen
2. I disagree that pointing out our faults is unpatriotic - that is the same rhetoric that got the US into its current mess.
3. Sadly, on an average, Indian's do have compromized ethics - yes. However the examples chosen in this article reflect the immaturity and inexperience of the author. For instance, doing some personal work during work hours (esp. when they are not the fixed 8 hrs days) is common everywhere.
4. The more important things are really being eithical about your work (a standard which I see deteriorating here in the bay area - Inidan and otherwise), about giving credit where it belongs, about not stealing someone elses ideas and about representing data accurately.
5. Personally I think more Indians are corrupt at an individual level and the US for instance is more corrupt at the corporate level - a larger percentage of the people are not curropt at the individual level.
6. One can go into great lengths about the reasons behind the assertion of the article - my comments are just about some of the statements masquerading as facts.
Posted by: Vidhya - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
95: I wish to reply to Joseph Moore. If the
Americans are to productive I don't
understand Why they are going for outsourcing
to Indians and Chinese?. Indian companies are
not calling Americans to come to India and
Work for Indian. In reality we know better
than Americans What life means? Are you
having any standard on family life? Because
of some Indians visited western countries we
have troubles in family life. If you look
back about 25 years back We will not talk of
about divorce, old age home etc. These are
the things Indian employees learned from You.
We know what is ethics and what is not?
Posted by: Dr J Subramani - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
96: This is also very very common in USA. It is
not a mistake. Can anyone get a dental or any
doctor appoitment in weekends. Everything in
US happens in weekdays only and this taken as
an accepted one. Dont create something unique
for India or Indian - we are far far better
than others. Please desist posting such
articles, now a days I dont feel like reading
articles in this portal, as it is not true
always...
Posted by: Jai - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
97: RACIST RACIST RACIST ...... WHAT A RACIST
ARTICLE AND COMMENTS. STOP THIS NONSENCE AT
ONCE............There are also genuine ethic
conscious employees amongst the IT
World.....This comment does not help anyone
than few RACIST.....Use your word to
encourage someone not to destroy.....You
TeamLease looks like a DEVIL
ADVOCATE.......with a handful of 401
sample......BOO on you. .....
Posted by: Racist - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
98: Though there is a % of truth in these
results, why blame only the Indian employees!
How about the organizations that are all
"lying" through their teeth - in the garb of
"marketing"? How come Microsoft's literature
and their products don't match? How come
Accenture sends "rookies" in a consulting
project, under the garb of "experts" and
charge $100s of dollars an hour? How does a
company get their "first customer" without
prior record (aren't they also "lying" /
"misrepresenting facts" / otherwise called
"marketing")?
And it is very doubtful that Teamlease can "extract" these types of answers in a general survey. IT jobs are stressful. When a manager feels his right to call any of their employees - "anytime on the mobile" - whats wrong with the employees taking care of their personal things at office? Lets not imply that the productivity or work ethics should suffer - but don't make an issue of these things - and single out "Indian types".
And it is very doubtful that Teamlease can "extract" these types of answers in a general survey. IT jobs are stressful. When a manager feels his right to call any of their employees - "anytime on the mobile" - whats wrong with the employees taking care of their personal things at office? Lets not imply that the productivity or work ethics should suffer - but don't make an issue of these things - and single out "Indian types".
Posted by: Rajaram - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
99: This article generalizing Indian employees is
very diappoiting to the standards of Silicon
India and The survey conducted by team
Lease.What ethics are these two companies are
talking about.Right from the editor of this
Magazine to the Ceo of TEAM lease let then
agree openly on this forum that they are 100%
ethical.If they so claim then there is
something which needs to be addressed by
themselves.To cite a few Instances all the
Indian IT companies send employees on
Different VISA's to US.SInce the time they
land in US they are rushed and extended to
the core sometime working for 16-18 hours on
a regular basis.Is this ethcical.They are
paid only for 8hours.Is this ethical.I am not
supporting wasting time on work ,but at the
same time generalizing things and publishing
the article on the magazine headlines is
uncalled for.This not only tarnishes the
image of Indian employees across the
globe,but creates uncalled public debate.As
one of the reader asked is there a comparison
showing the indiam employees with the
employees from other parts of the world.Its
time now for silicon INDIA to pull this
article right away and the company which
surveyed send a public appology for
misleading surveys.
Posted by: kesava - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
100: Yes, Indians employees are unethical. (Most
of them are) However, there are few
exceptions, some are geunine and honest, but
the majority overshadows the ethical
perception of Indian employees. In US I have
come across indian consultants who fudge
resumes with false experience to get
consulting gigs. Most of them with ERP
skills, will batently lie about their
experience.
I worked in India with many indians, I think out of people working in IT field the productivity and skills are way too below US standards. I can bet Americans are twice are productive than thier indian couterparts in India. Out of 8 hours in a day 2-3 hours are completely wasted in tea, smoke breaks, and gossips.
And overall Indians complain about lenghty work hours??!! They make it look that way by being unproductive.! I think the world is soon realizing the downside of outsourcing and the reverse trend seems to be happening soon.
I worked in India with many indians, I think out of people working in IT field the productivity and skills are way too below US standards. I can bet Americans are twice are productive than thier indian couterparts in India. Out of 8 hours in a day 2-3 hours are completely wasted in tea, smoke breaks, and gossips.
And overall Indians complain about lenghty work hours??!! They make it look that way by being unproductive.! I think the world is soon realizing the downside of outsourcing and the reverse trend seems to be happening soon.
Posted by: Joseph Moore - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
101: Dear Teamlease Team,
It is totally derogatory on your part to conclude that Indians are unethical at work. You might have construed the idea as you hire Indian employees for many multinational companies for peanuts. We can give so many instances where Indians have proved their mettle at their work place. If you publish such surveys, I am sure the same would tarnish image of Siliconindia.
It is totally derogatory on your part to conclude that Indians are unethical at work. You might have construed the idea as you hire Indian employees for many multinational companies for peanuts. We can give so many instances where Indians have proved their mettle at their work place. If you publish such surveys, I am sure the same would tarnish image of Siliconindia.
Posted by: Hara Kumar Reddy, D - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
102: It's true, and in very near future this issue
would be the most highlighted one. India
might lose business because of these
unethical work culture. No idea about Kolkata
or other cities's work environment, but in
Bangalore for sure. There are many more other
unethical behaviours found... not only
unethical but unprofessional and uncultured
as well. IT sector needs to be a little bit
sensitive about recruiting right people at
job. It's not only the technical thing,
business needs a lot of other aspects to run
successfully and with respect from the
greater industry.
Good attempt to highlight this topic. Great start Siliconindia!
Good attempt to highlight this topic. Great start Siliconindia!
Posted by: Bidisha Majumder - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
103: READ !! Still I am not sure if people will
read this.
i. I am really interested in the ehics of the employees who work for the company doing this survey. They are NOT PATRIOTIC for sure.
ii. I will like to see the comparision of the similar report with employees in USA, Europe, China, UAE, etc
iii. Companies wants output. They do not and should not care of what the employees do.
iv. Employees do not have time left when they slog 10-12 hours in office to do their work in non office hours.
v. READ Chanakya neetee that is taught world wide for management style. You will understand whats wrong and whats right
vi. If you are looking for the number of people reading this article then this is the best article for this.
vi. Is sending employees to work in USA on B1 visa a good ethics followed by the companies?
vii. Is it good ethics to lay off hard working empployees without prior notice?
I do not want to write another article....
Dinesh Chavan
i. I am really interested in the ehics of the employees who work for the company doing this survey. They are NOT PATRIOTIC for sure.
ii. I will like to see the comparision of the similar report with employees in USA, Europe, China, UAE, etc
iii. Companies wants output. They do not and should not care of what the employees do.
iv. Employees do not have time left when they slog 10-12 hours in office to do their work in non office hours.
v. READ Chanakya neetee that is taught world wide for management style. You will understand whats wrong and whats right
vi. If you are looking for the number of people reading this article then this is the best article for this.
vi. Is sending employees to work in USA on B1 visa a good ethics followed by the companies?
vii. Is it good ethics to lay off hard working empployees without prior notice?
I do not want to write another article....
Dinesh Chavan
Posted by: Dinesh Chavan - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
104: Hello TEAMLEASE,
Be a responsible forum by starting to reply all the comments your readers have made after you created such a havoc. Please don't demonized all --people who are hard working, contributors to the national wealth......
(I thought some racist had written the article)
... :) ....but turn out to be some layman not ready to move a limb......hahahaha lol.....
Be a responsible forum by starting to reply all the comments your readers have made after you created such a havoc. Please don't demonized all --people who are hard working, contributors to the national wealth......
(I thought some racist had written the article)
... :) ....but turn out to be some layman not ready to move a limb......hahahaha lol.....
Posted by: Sharat - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
105: This attitude one can find in every country.
If any country people say that they are very
sincere in their work and they do not use
their official position for any personal
benefit, they are the No. 1 liers in the
world. In India, these kinds of culture were
taught by the British during their rule.
This is one of the bad things taught by them.
Other things like bribing, taking law into
their hand , violence, etc., were also taught
by them. Hats off to Western Culture. They
have spoiled many Asian countries.
Posted by: sivakumar - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
106: Silicon India is absolutely correct and right
on the money. My company was a victim of
this situation and is hapenning at a greater
rate in India today. So it is about time
this is highlighted and brought to main
stream so that growing organizations can
institute a training program.
Posted by: Personal Comment - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
107: BulShit Article!! Silicon India is gone so
low level they publish a survey of 400
peoples genralising the ETHICS!! SILICON
INDIA better check the ethics of the person
who approved this article!!!
Posted by: Ram - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
108: Hello "TEAMLEASE" see the reply your getting
for your article, one advise, its better if
you start answering to all these comments
(?) from tomorrow, don't think how many days
it takes you people to answer. just try, you
know one thing (EBA) Emotional Bank Account,
this is about building trust, if anyone loose
trust on you for that you need to do favour
for min 8 times & max 24 time, so just think
how many times you need do (favour) answer to
all these comments to built trust in your
readers on your survey. (future).
Posted by: Ishwarayya - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
109: Hello Teamlease
Think before commenting on Indian employees that too on Bangalorians do you know how many hours we work in office? even thou we are paid for only 8 hrs? every BPO employee work atleast more than 10 hrs and he spends 2 to 3 hrs in travelling, and important thing is he will be having family in home he has to talk he has to communicate with friends and family. please think twice before doing these kind of surveys employees are not saints that should sacrifice everything and only work. if someone does like this he or she will go mad within a month with the pressure of work and tensions. I am not telling you not to do these kind of surveys but please think from both side.
Thanks
Aniket
Think before commenting on Indian employees that too on Bangalorians do you know how many hours we work in office? even thou we are paid for only 8 hrs? every BPO employee work atleast more than 10 hrs and he spends 2 to 3 hrs in travelling, and important thing is he will be having family in home he has to talk he has to communicate with friends and family. please think twice before doing these kind of surveys employees are not saints that should sacrifice everything and only work. if someone does like this he or she will go mad within a month with the pressure of work and tensions. I am not telling you not to do these kind of surveys but please think from both side.
Thanks
Aniket
Posted by: Aniket - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
110: Hello I am a regular reader of new on
siliconindia.But this survey seems to be too
harsh on a large audience (and the only
backing you have is a survey whose sample
size does not even represent a portion of
what I would call India's working population)
It also seems one sided to me.You see one
side of the situation where people in India
do personal work in office hours.What you
happen to have conveniently ignored is that
employees in India put twice as much hours in
work as compared to Western counterparts at
less the pay that they get.So If you work 14
instead of 8 hours it is crazy to blame them
of doing personal work for a couple of hours.
Posted by: chirag - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
111: Irresponsible article and posting; I
consider this as an abuse comments as we
notice this in the Blogs and urge to be
removed immediately from public viewing. Not
sure "TeamLease" were ethical enough to hire
the right statisticians when conducting and
summarizing of a topic like this
Posted by: Abay - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
112: Good article and sample size does not justify
the write up nor it represents INDIAN
WORKFORCE.Indian ethical standards are the
highest and agree it has taken a beating
lately because 85% of the parents and 80's
generation were the last with moral classes,
reading chandamama, tinkle, tintin ,etc which
shaped the basic moral values and supported
at the right time by grand parents values
based pampering.Sadly for the Colour
TV/Internet gennext this is missing, hence
the results.Today 85% are quick gun murugans
who want to be america via ameerpet types ,
the fundamental asset of ethics is inborn and
inculcated be environment, so its partial
responsibility lies with the society too and
90% with the parents.Time India Wakes up and
sets its record straight, this can't be done
as long as BIMARU states burden is taken up
by South and West India
Posted by: ashwinnallari - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
113: How somebody publish such a baseless news on
valuable portal like SiliconIndia? The truth
is we don't differentiate between Personal
and Official "timings". We take 'official'
conference calls early morning, late evening,
mid-night.. so what do you call this?
Unethical @ Home ?? Life has to be balanced,
so we end up doing personal / official work
based on one's need. I think the survey is
meaningless and doesn't quote exact facts..
Did the survey capture, how much time does
the employee spend every day at official Work
and at personal work? Man....
Posted by: Vaidee - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
114: All are baseless comments which cannot be
proved by the teamlease.
Posted by: VENKATESH - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
115: Biggest part is to whom to believe. what is
ethical ? does the surver himself follow
it.
which company is following 8hrs per day government policy.Try to bring out that and then tell about the employees later.
which company is following 8hrs per day government policy.Try to bring out that and then tell about the employees later.
Posted by: subash - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
116: I don't agree to this publishing and I would
quote this as "JUNK NEWS".
Posted by: Nagaraj Kanduri - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
117: This survey done by TeamLease Services is
purely illogical. I don't agree with the
outcomes they are revealing for Indian
employees. Such kind of surveys will only
demolish the image of Indian's across
world!
Even if they have got such results, I don't agree to publish such things over internet without getting verified with some trust worthy Indian organization.
Teamlease simply want to bring themselves in light, in front of other nations organisation for their own mean. I am also working with one the top most you can say in top-20 Indian Firm and don't know to which employess they approached and get such data.
Purely baseless survey results.
Even if they have got such results, I don't agree to publish such things over internet without getting verified with some trust worthy Indian organization.
Teamlease simply want to bring themselves in light, in front of other nations organisation for their own mean. I am also working with one the top most you can say in top-20 Indian Firm and don't know to which employess they approached and get such data.
Purely baseless survey results.
Posted by: Afzal Khan - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
118: Please do not print or publish these sort of
things. 401 is not a figure to consider when
you "Teamlease people" are questioning the
ethics of the employees.
If you dont know anything about Indian then dont pass this statements.
If you dont know anything about Indian then dont pass this statements.
Posted by: Abhishek - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
119: Ms. Surabhi Mathur........Somebody needs to
tell you that every employee spends more than
9 hours in the office. When it comes to an
Indian employee, we spend 12 hours daily in
the office. When we are at office, we have
our social circles back at home. Hence people
may tend to use phones, time, etc for
personal use. And Surabhi, I bet you have
never been to USA or anywhere in the world,
they also do the same.
I will tell you a story when a teamlease consultant called me to facilitate a position with Microsoft. Teamlease is a business hungry entity and the company has no ethics itself. The consultant bothered me to death and wanted to teach me how to appear at the interveiw even when I was not interested. You see how despo she was to fill her position. And you talk of ethics.
Teamlease guys have no right to evaluate Indian people on their ethics. I can present several cases where you guys delay salaries of people who are on your payroll and placed at your client stations. Dont think you can become an industry research insight provider. Be happy with what you do.
I vow that I will demoralise all my knowns to ever get into a relation with Teamlease.
I will tell you a story when a teamlease consultant called me to facilitate a position with Microsoft. Teamlease is a business hungry entity and the company has no ethics itself. The consultant bothered me to death and wanted to teach me how to appear at the interveiw even when I was not interested. You see how despo she was to fill her position. And you talk of ethics.
Teamlease guys have no right to evaluate Indian people on their ethics. I can present several cases where you guys delay salaries of people who are on your payroll and placed at your client stations. Dont think you can become an industry research insight provider. Be happy with what you do.
I vow that I will demoralise all my knowns to ever get into a relation with Teamlease.
Posted by: Ben - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
120: This is really stupid....
I think before taking the survey, they must think about what ethics are exactly
No company is dumb to let their employees break work ethics.... If employees do their personal work at office, that is because they don't find enough time some other day to do their work, and if employees use company's internet for personal use, it means they do not have enough time to reply for their dear ones as their companies make them timeless...
I can say that, because, even though my work time is for 8 hours, i am made to stay at office for more than 12 hours, some times 14 hours... its not because i could not finish my work in time(for the critics who says why not finish your work in 8 hours and leave), I have to co-ordinate with client, who never comes in time, or the work is unpredictable. Don't say this should not happen again, all we do is to earn.
Companies lets their employees do these things only because they know they are working at the expense of their personal work.
Leave it, it is all my anguish, and before setting the title so powerful "Indian employees unethical @ work", they should look at the ethics being followed somewhere else? Isnt it true that Unofficial man days in many us based it companies is 3 days?
SO ETHICS ARE SOME THING THAT CANT BE JUDGED.... DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS DEFINE THEM THEIR OWN WAY... and, before talking about ethics, would like to know what ethics Teamlease is having? That would be a good guide lines for the employees in other organizations... So list out what ethics are in your sense, and how many of them you follow...
I think before taking the survey, they must think about what ethics are exactly
No company is dumb to let their employees break work ethics.... If employees do their personal work at office, that is because they don't find enough time some other day to do their work, and if employees use company's internet for personal use, it means they do not have enough time to reply for their dear ones as their companies make them timeless...
I can say that, because, even though my work time is for 8 hours, i am made to stay at office for more than 12 hours, some times 14 hours... its not because i could not finish my work in time(for the critics who says why not finish your work in 8 hours and leave), I have to co-ordinate with client, who never comes in time, or the work is unpredictable. Don't say this should not happen again, all we do is to earn.
Companies lets their employees do these things only because they know they are working at the expense of their personal work.
Leave it, it is all my anguish, and before setting the title so powerful "Indian employees unethical @ work", they should look at the ethics being followed somewhere else? Isnt it true that Unofficial man days in many us based it companies is 3 days?
SO ETHICS ARE SOME THING THAT CANT BE JUDGED.... DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS DEFINE THEM THEIR OWN WAY... and, before talking about ethics, would like to know what ethics Teamlease is having? That would be a good guide lines for the employees in other organizations... So list out what ethics are in your sense, and how many of them you follow...
Posted by: Nadh - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
121: Such a baseless and uncooked article..By
seeing this crap survey, I think this will
happen only in teamlease!
Posted by: nishchal - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
122: Friends I understand ur feelings. I too feel
bad. But can anyone say the report is wrong.
Leave the statistics, Dont we ever lie to
take leave. or do personal work in office,
and use office stuiff for personal. Come on
guys be realistics, when some one points our
wrong things try to correct it rather
thenobjecting it.
Someone said in the comments if we look at developed countries the result will be same. It dosent mean we have to be like them, we can be a ethical employee. And one more person said about teamlease office, teamlease is in India so it means their employees are also unethical.
So instead of objecting it just accept the fact and lets correct ourself.
Someone said in the comments if we look at developed countries the result will be same. It dosent mean we have to be like them, we can be a ethical employee. And one more person said about teamlease office, teamlease is in India so it means their employees are also unethical.
So instead of objecting it just accept the fact and lets correct ourself.
Posted by: surendar - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
123: i completely disagree to this statement ,this
is indeed a crab............false comment
upon Indian Employees.......
LOOK TO YOUR OWN JOB BEFORE MAKING ANY COMMENTS... please dont forget if you r an Indian....
LOOK TO YOUR OWN JOB BEFORE MAKING ANY COMMENTS... please dont forget if you r an Indian....
Posted by: Priyanka - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
124: I would call this "Page Three Stats " i mean
such research conducted in "developed"
countries would probably give similar
percentages.
How can Team Lease justify that these results apply to Indians more than to any other nation / community ?Have they conducted such research in other countries ? Have they tried to validate the statistical accuracy of the sample ?
Such slanderous behaviour MUST be stopped by force if people do not stop by themselves.
This research just smells of achieving publicity or of showing Indians in bad light.
I would love to see the Government of India or some concerned social advocates take TeamLease to Court for showing Indians in a bad light.
Jai Hind
How can Team Lease justify that these results apply to Indians more than to any other nation / community ?Have they conducted such research in other countries ? Have they tried to validate the statistical accuracy of the sample ?
Such slanderous behaviour MUST be stopped by force if people do not stop by themselves.
This research just smells of achieving publicity or of showing Indians in bad light.
I would love to see the Government of India or some concerned social advocates take TeamLease to Court for showing Indians in a bad light.
Jai Hind
Posted by: Upendra Watwe - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
125: i have a client whose office is just above
the Team Lease office and i can tell u how
these Team Lease staff work, majority of the
staff is always seen in the corridors
smoking/chatting/having tea/coffee at the
roadside pan wala, i guess they are
working(doing their job). I know to this
Team Lease may say what is that i am doing
there then?-dear, mine is a support client
and we dont have regular tickets(bcos the
implementation/initial work was done
perfectly and hence no issues or tickets in
support)so that we stick to our workstations-
we have to move back to the office incase of
no issues.
Posted by: umesh - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
126: First of all 401 is not at all a sample size
to decide the ethics. There is no information
about the selection of the sample. You can
say a half filled glass is half empty. The
survey itself stated that "the survey
attempted to uncover the hidden truth". One
can understand the motive to undermine Indian
employees and workers. People can ignore such
surveys in future. To emphasis this point, I
am writing my comments.
Posted by: Dr J Subramani - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
127: This report is absolutely correct whatever
may be the sample size & giving Kolkata as
the higest Ethics is also correct.
Worked in the INdustry for 20 yrs now & have seen that inside outside.Somebody said "how much of the office work one takes home", I would say not resquired , the company do not expect, if we work that 8 hrs deligiently , there is no need to go home & work.We as a community always have taken & imbibed the bad culture of waste & wisely have filtered out the good qualities in them , as I believe all posses good quality.
If you see we go out during the office work or during Lunch to do Bank's work, the Lunch hour just do not give you time to eat Lunch but also take a break from previous hours of work(now a days one can avoid that with ATM & Internet Banking in place), has a Doctors appointment( this can be avoided if planned in Time, Childrens School Meeting(one can take Leave but still would talk to Boss for 2 hrs break in between)......so on & so forth.
Company pays for 8 hours though , what Companies should expect is that to give qulaity output during these 8 Hrs you need to better utilise the rest of the 16 hrs to make oneself productive & if you are not productive during the official 8 hrs your rest of the 16 hrs ought to go miserable in due course of time ( if you are dependent on Job) .This is nothing new go to any other Industry the same things happen , its only the so called emerging technology areas & industry where people are taking benifit of such situation mostly.
Worked in the INdustry for 20 yrs now & have seen that inside outside.Somebody said "how much of the office work one takes home", I would say not resquired , the company do not expect, if we work that 8 hrs deligiently , there is no need to go home & work.We as a community always have taken & imbibed the bad culture of waste & wisely have filtered out the good qualities in them , as I believe all posses good quality.
If you see we go out during the office work or during Lunch to do Bank's work, the Lunch hour just do not give you time to eat Lunch but also take a break from previous hours of work(now a days one can avoid that with ATM & Internet Banking in place), has a Doctors appointment( this can be avoided if planned in Time, Childrens School Meeting(one can take Leave but still would talk to Boss for 2 hrs break in between)......so on & so forth.
Company pays for 8 hours though , what Companies should expect is that to give qulaity output during these 8 Hrs you need to better utilise the rest of the 16 hrs to make oneself productive & if you are not productive during the official 8 hrs your rest of the 16 hrs ought to go miserable in due course of time ( if you are dependent on Job) .This is nothing new go to any other Industry the same things happen , its only the so called emerging technology areas & industry where people are taking benifit of such situation mostly.
Posted by: SG - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
128: Friends- This is indeed a crab. It seems that
TeamLease did not have any work to do and so
drafted an unusual and false comment upon
Indian Employees. To my concern, why do you
need to focus on what Indians are doing and
why not what the world is doing. Every one
does the same and this is everywhere. In
India it just bursted out because of people
like TL publishing such comments. Well; I
work for an IT/ ITES company here in this
Great Country India and I am very happy with
my team. I do just expect good work and time
deliver from my subordinates that's it. No
matter whether they do their personal work at
office or what, my job is done and my clients
are happy. Then why are the others being
bothered. Well I feel that a person should
not restrict him/herself with time or
boundaries. e.g- couple of days back I was
also doing my personal work in the office and
during a conversation with a person over
phone I got a fantastic idea to my current
project and this leaded me to a great Gun.
Now if i would have not been in conversation
then provably today I may not have got that
idea. This is how it goes. "TL" Thing million
times before pointing finger to the others.
Try to rectify the mistakes in you and then
start pondering the same to the others.
Posted by: Praveen - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
129: The definition of ethics should chage
according to the business environment
prevailing. and doing personal work at
office should rather be termed as
"unprofessional"
blame it on our nature and our culture but as far as bribing for information and using so called unethical means to get competitors information, is more due to system of reporting the company related information to general public. as if people are afraid of loosing customers to the competition. for finding out corporate data and contacts India is one of the toughest places on the planet. unless this sense of insecutiry is dispensed with this will be a common place.
blame it on our nature and our culture but as far as bribing for information and using so called unethical means to get competitors information, is more due to system of reporting the company related information to general public. as if people are afraid of loosing customers to the competition. for finding out corporate data and contacts India is one of the toughest places on the planet. unless this sense of insecutiry is dispensed with this will be a common place.
Posted by: Niswarth Kochar - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
130: 401 employees from 500 companies? That's less
than 1 employee per company.
63% of 401 is 252.63.... so about half a person in each of the 500 companies does personal work on company time.
63% of 401 is 252.63.... so about half a person in each of the 500 companies does personal work on company time.
Posted by: Alok - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
131: Someone said, why such baseless article which
doesn't even fulfills statistical parameters,
is published here- my dear friend- to create
sensation, increase readership and brand. The
way news channels do.
Posted by: Free world - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
132: on the other hand, did you ever think of
doing a survey on how much work people take
back home from office?? the idea is to get
work done - both on the professional front
and on the personal front. timelines are just
boundaries that have ceased to exist just
like most other boundaries in the global
workplace. if its OK for your office folks to
ring you or email you or expect you to be in
touch at all times, then whats the crib about
doing perosnal work from office.
indians are emerging as global leaders in all business domains, i am sure that it is more than your simple tag of 'dishonesty' which has got us so far and will take us further in future. Only ones who will get left behind are people with 'holier-than-thou' attitude like Team Lease for this derogatory research and silicon india for acting like one of those scandalous TV channels for posting this just to get eyeballs!! Good Job!!
indians are emerging as global leaders in all business domains, i am sure that it is more than your simple tag of 'dishonesty' which has got us so far and will take us further in future. Only ones who will get left behind are people with 'holier-than-thou' attitude like Team Lease for this derogatory research and silicon india for acting like one of those scandalous TV channels for posting this just to get eyeballs!! Good Job!!
Posted by: LG - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
133: Ethics is as important as being hard working.
Indians are hardworking but it is also
important to work on the ethical grounds as
well. Workplace ethics are like antiques
these days. Exploiting workers for lesser
amount of money, personal tasks in office,
stealing away credit from the subordinates is
an open secret these days.
I dont want to defend my country on this, but probably the ethical downfall is due to insecurity. I would request all the people to find out a solution for this
I dont want to defend my country on this, but probably the ethical downfall is due to insecurity. I would request all the people to find out a solution for this
Posted by: Piyal Gupta - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
134: Two things:
How ethical practices do we have in the business is going to result the employee ethics like " How the king is, the same way the people are..."
How long the company is expecting employee to work, how many co's have have the predefined ethics and what are actions they are taking to follow it by people?
ethics are subjective to time/area and society. like pet is ok in EU but non ethical here in India.
How ethical practices do we have in the business is going to result the employee ethics like " How the king is, the same way the people are..."
How long the company is expecting employee to work, how many co's have have the predefined ethics and what are actions they are taking to follow it by people?
ethics are subjective to time/area and society. like pet is ok in EU but non ethical here in India.
Posted by: Vidya Sagar - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
135: Its sad to read such articles, Are we
Indians forgetting the fact to see what lies
beyond our work, culture and over all India
as my country
!!!
1. Proven fact across the globe that Indians stand the first and the second to be hardworking and most efficient that organizations look for.
2. As of the article published this is the same reality that prevails in every other country and If I were to be a little more specific, a few countries which is top rated in corruption.
So people lets break the ice and say this is a U T T E R C R A P, thats dared and published.
Guz with the Editorial Team & Frndz of TEAM LEASE.... Lets be positive in life first before you think of posting such articles
1. Proven fact across the globe that Indians stand the first and the second to be hardworking and most efficient that organizations look for.
2. As of the article published this is the same reality that prevails in every other country and If I were to be a little more specific, a few countries which is top rated in corruption.
So people lets break the ice and say this is a U T T E R C R A P, thats dared and published.
Guz with the Editorial Team & Frndz of TEAM LEASE.... Lets be positive in life first before you think of posting such articles
Posted by: Mearish Thoams - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
136: What the articale said is absolutely true to
the best of my knowledge...Since I have
worked for 4 largest corporations so far,
I've seen it all...Most of the comments are
telling us that the Survey was a bogus and we
have ethics which simply shows that we are
ashamed to agree the fact...
First thing is why do you work 12-15hrs a day whenyou can finish your work in 8-9 hrs???Is that a fault of Employers'????
Our guys don't respect time and are not punctual....When they take a break, they don't come back on time and so it just affects others' schedule too which results in overwork..Don't you think this affects the productivity????
Second is, I've seen many people using the office resources for personal work which they can't afford to have it done at home ...say for example using the office phone for hours for sweet nothings... Would they be doing it if they are footing the bill...Taking print outs unnecessarily when the rest of the world is crying about "Going Green"...
We don't learn the lessons and we'll pay a heavy price for it if this trend continues...
First thing is why do you work 12-15hrs a day whenyou can finish your work in 8-9 hrs???Is that a fault of Employers'????
Our guys don't respect time and are not punctual....When they take a break, they don't come back on time and so it just affects others' schedule too which results in overwork..Don't you think this affects the productivity????
Second is, I've seen many people using the office resources for personal work which they can't afford to have it done at home ...say for example using the office phone for hours for sweet nothings... Would they be doing it if they are footing the bill...Taking print outs unnecessarily when the rest of the world is crying about "Going Green"...
We don't learn the lessons and we'll pay a heavy price for it if this trend continues...
Posted by: Sai - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
138: I think this is an incongruous statement,
esp. w.r.t Indian work environment. I don't
know why TeamLease is overlooking the fact
that on an avg Indians are working 10-15 hrs
a day against 8-9 her in most of the
developed countries. Then where the hell they
will find the time to do their personal
work?
Also sample size is far too small to reflect full set of Indian employees. It seems like, TeamLease have conducted some kind of in house survey of their own employees and associated it with Indian employees.
Shame on TeamLease.
Also sample size is far too small to reflect full set of Indian employees. It seems like, TeamLease have conducted some kind of in house survey of their own employees and associated it with Indian employees.
Shame on TeamLease.
Posted by: Tapan - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
139: It is just a cheap publicty stunt. Guys ,
TEAMLEASE is a manpower vendor and I beleive
most of you know it. If you are an Indian
working in a decision making position ,
please ignore this company's service. Let
them face the pinch of publishing such a
BULLSHIT article.
Posted by: Prasad - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
140: The problem is that most of these unethical
behaviour fall within the gray zone. This is
compounded by the eternal Indian 'clalta hai'
attitude.
Another point mentioned here was the long working hours we endure. Do you stay back in office for 10-14 hours round the year for 365 days? If so, consider this:
1. Nobody can survive like this. You will have a breakdown at a very young age. Notice the number of heart attacks and diabetes related diseases are on the rise.
2. There is a difference between working for 10-14 hours and working effectively for x hours. The longer time you put in office, the shorter is the effective hour.
3. If you are a youngster, you are probably putting in the extra hours to use the company facilities.
4. If you are a senior resource, consider the time you spend at your workstation vis-a-vis the time you spend in travelling.
5. Carrying work to home is a nice way to reduce the quality of work. It also upsets your work-life balance.
Another point mentioned here was the long working hours we endure. Do you stay back in office for 10-14 hours round the year for 365 days? If so, consider this:
1. Nobody can survive like this. You will have a breakdown at a very young age. Notice the number of heart attacks and diabetes related diseases are on the rise.
2. There is a difference between working for 10-14 hours and working effectively for x hours. The longer time you put in office, the shorter is the effective hour.
3. If you are a youngster, you are probably putting in the extra hours to use the company facilities.
4. If you are a senior resource, consider the time you spend at your workstation vis-a-vis the time you spend in travelling.
5. Carrying work to home is a nice way to reduce the quality of work. It also upsets your work-life balance.
Posted by: Neel - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
141: Most of the time the survey sheets are filled
by the surveyors on their own or by the
family and friend
Thats Says is all
Thats Says is all
Posted by: Raj Malhotra - 12:00 AM Jul 31, ' 08
142: And now onto the actual issue at hand:
unethical workplace behaviour.
I believe that this article is factually correct although I believe the numbers are a bit on the higher side. In my twelve years of career I have had the occasion to observe the following:
1. Use the company Internet to browse/surf for personal use. This includes personal mails, chats, illegal software downloads and even p*rn. And nobody here will say this is bullshit, because everybody knows it happens.
2. Use the company printer to p
I believe that this article is factually correct although I believe the numbers are a bit on the higher side. In my twelve years of career I have had the occasion to observe the following:
1. Use the company Internet to browse/surf for personal use. This includes personal mails, chats, illegal software downloads and even p*rn. And nobody here will say this is bullshit, because everybody knows it happens.
2. Use the company printer to p